Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] CoTyroneIreland.com - New Content - George Fulton, Newtownstewart, Co. Tyrone, Army Deserter, 1780

2019-12-02 Thread Ron McCoy via CoTyroneList 
Thanks Gordon. Off line another person who knows quite a bit about the 
British regimental service mentioned to me that the British army was 
fastidious about keeping track of the soldiers they

executed for desertion. They were this person said less likely to record 
a regular dissection. He felt if the soldier had been executed it would 
be clearly recorded in the records of the regiment almost certainly and 
would be a clue to knowing the fate of the possible family member.

Cheers

Ron McCoy

On 2019-12-01 10:32 p.m., Gordon Wilkinson via CoTyroneList wrote:
>
> Yes Ron, during the Irish wars of the mid 18thC there were many 
> deserters who joined the other side! It was a 2-way exchange too. 
> Depended on food, wages and the reliability of being fed, clothed and 
> housed than a particular loyalty.
>
> Gordon
>
> On 1/12/2019 8:51 pm, Ron McCoy via CoTyroneList wrote:
>>
>> Hi Bruce
>>
>> I have done a fair amount of reading on regiments of the British army 
>> and particular the 100th reg of Foot. I would not assume that your 
>> ancestor was killed for desertion. It appears that desertion was a 
>> very common problem in the army with extremely high percentages of 
>> soldiers walking away from their duties. Depending on the situation 
>> and circumstances the sentences where quite mixed and seldom 
>> involving the death penalty. Often corporal punishment was the rule 
>> of law. I suspect if they illuminated every soldier who deserted for 
>> various reasons the British army would have been very much smaller.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Ron McCoy
>>
>>
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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] CoTyroneIreland.com - New Content - George Fulton, Newtownstewart, Co. Tyrone, Army Deserter, 1780

2019-12-01 Thread Gordon Wilkinson via CoTyroneList 
Yes Ron, during the Irish wars of the mid 18thC there were many 
deserters who joined the other side! It was a 2-way exchange too. 
Depended on food, wages and the reliability of being fed, clothed and 
housed than a particular loyalty.


Gordon

On 1/12/2019 8:51 pm, Ron McCoy via CoTyroneList wrote:


Hi Bruce

I have done a fair amount of reading on regiments of the British army 
and particular the 100th reg of Foot. I would not assume that your 
ancestor was killed for desertion. It appears that desertion was a 
very common problem in the army with extremely high percentages of 
soldiers walking away from their duties. Depending on the situation 
and circumstances the sentences where quite mixed and seldom involving 
the death penalty. Often corporal punishment was the rule of law. I 
suspect if they illuminated every soldier who deserted for various 
reasons the British army would have been very much smaller.


Cheers

Ron McCoy

On 2019-12-01 3:00 a.m., Bruce Newport via CoTyroneList wrote:

This is of interest to me.
My FULTON line’s earliest ancestor is William FULTON (1736-1791) 
buried St Patrick’s Church of Ireland, Gortin and his sons Thomas 
(1766-1797), John (1783-1860), of Droit, and David (1784-1863).
I assume the George FULTON, born about 1753 who deserted in 1780 
would not have had a long life if, or after, he was captured.

Thank you.
Bruce Newport.
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Thanks again to Len Swindley for another great addition to CTI!
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Kitchener, Ontario

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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] CoTyroneIreland.com - New Content - George Fulton, Newtownstewart, Co. Tyrone, Army Deserter, 1780

2019-12-01 Thread Len Swindley via CoTyroneList 
Thank you Ron
Len

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Hi Bruce

I have done a fair amount of reading on regiments of the British army and 
particular the 100th reg of Foot. I would not assume that your ancestor was 
killed for desertion. It appears that desertion was a very common problem in 
the army with extremely high percentages of soldiers walking away from their 
duties. Depending on the situation and circumstances the sentences where quite 
mixed and seldom involving the death penalty. Often corporal punishment was the 
rule of law. I suspect if they illuminated every soldier who deserted for 
various reasons the British army would have been very much smaller.

Cheers

Ron McCoy
On 2019-12-01 3:00 a.m., Bruce Newport via CoTyroneList wrote:
This is of interest to me.

My FULTON line’s earliest ancestor is William FULTON (1736-1791) buried St 
Patrick’s Church of Ireland, Gortin and his sons Thomas (1766-1797), John 
(1783-1860), of Droit, and David (1784-1863).

I assume the George FULTON, born about 1753 who deserted in 1780 would not have 
had a long life if, or after, he was captured.

Thank you.
Bruce Newport.


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Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 9:17 PM
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Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] CoTyroneIreland.com - New Content - George 
Fulton, Newtownstewart, Co. Tyrone, Army Deserter, 1780

George Fulton, Newtownstewart, Co. Tyrone, Army Deserter, 
1780<https://www.cotyroneireland.com/muster/fulton.html>

Thanks again to Len Swindley for another great addition to CTI!

Jim McKane
Kitchener, Ontario

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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] CoTyroneIreland.com - New Content - George Fulton, Newtownstewart, Co. Tyrone, Army Deserter, 1780

2019-12-01 Thread Ron McCoy via CoTyroneList 
Hi Bruce

I have done a fair amount of reading on regiments of the British army and 
particular the 100th reg of Foot. I would not assume that your ancestor was 
killed for desertion. It appears that desertion was a very common problem in 
the army with extremely high percentages of soldiers walking away from their 
duties. Depending on the situation and circumstances the sentences where quite 
mixed and seldom involving the death penalty. Often corporal punishment was the 
rule of law. I suspect if they illuminated every soldier who deserted for 
various reasons the British army would have been very much smaller.

Cheers

Ron McCoy

On 2019-12-01 3:00 a.m., Bruce Newport via CoTyroneList wrote:
This is of interest to me.

My FULTON line’s earliest ancestor is William FULTON (1736-1791) buried St 
Patrick’s Church of Ireland, Gortin and his sons Thomas (1766-1797), John 
(1783-1860), of Droit, and David (1784-1863).

I assume the George FULTON, born about 1753 who deserted in 1780 would not have 
had a long life if, or after, he was captured.

Thank you.
Bruce Newport.


From: Jim McKane via CoTyroneList<mailto:cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 9:17 PM
To: CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List<mailto:cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com>
Cc: Jim McKane<mailto:j...@mckane.ca>
Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] CoTyroneIreland.com - New Content - George 
Fulton, Newtownstewart, Co. Tyrone, Army Deserter, 1780

George Fulton, Newtownstewart, Co. Tyrone, Army Deserter, 
1780<https://www.cotyroneireland.com/muster/fulton.html>

Thanks again to Len Swindley for another great addition to CTI!

Jim McKane
Kitchener, Ontario


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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] CoTyroneIreland.com - New Content - George Fulton, Newtownstewart, Co. Tyrone, Army Deserter, 1780

2019-12-01 Thread Bruce Newport via CoTyroneList 
This is of interest to me.

My FULTON line’s earliest ancestor is William FULTON (1736-1791) buried St 
Patrick’s Church of Ireland, Gortin and his sons Thomas (1766-1797), John 
(1783-1860), of Droit, and David (1784-1863).

I assume the George FULTON, born about 1753 who deserted in 1780 would not have 
had a long life if, or after, he was captured.

Thank you.
Bruce Newport.


From: Jim McKane via CoTyroneList 
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 9:17 PM
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Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] CoTyroneIreland.com - New Content - George 
Fulton, Newtownstewart, Co. Tyrone, Army Deserter, 1780

George Fulton, Newtownstewart, Co. Tyrone, Army Deserter, 1780 

Thanks again to Len Swindley for another great addition to CTI!

Jim McKane

Kitchener, Ontario



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2019-11-30 Thread Jim McKane via CoTyroneList 
George Fulton, Newtownstewart, Co. Tyrone, Army Deserter, 1780


Thanks again to Len Swindley for another great addition to CTI!

Jim McKane
Kitchener, Ontario
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