Re: [courier-users] Auto-upload mail from backup server to main server?

2002-01-15 Thread Peter C. Norton

You could deliver all email that you're intending to forward into a maildir
and user djb's serialmail to deliver when you want it to.  Its pretty simple
to setup and should work fine with a virtualdomain setup for each domain
that you backup.  You could just set serialmail to run ever 5 or 10 minutes
automaticly and you'd have automated store and forward.

-Peter

On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 07:28:46AM +, William Hue wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 I've been using Courier since v0.29.0; great product!
 
 I have two mail servers for a given domain, call it domain.com for the
 purpose
 of this discussion.  The two servers are at two separate sites.
 
 I've set up two MX entries for domain.com with different preferences,
 and this
 works fine.  Mail gets accepted by the primary server (mail.domain.com);
 if the
 primary fails, mail starts going to the secondary server
 (mail2.domain.com).
 
 My question is:  Is there a way for me to, from a cron job, upload
 e-mail from
 the secondary server back to the primary server (when it is back up), so
 my
 users don't have to check for e-mail from both servers?  I figure this
 would be
 as simple as forwarding new messages, but I need to be able to specify
 the MTA
 as mail.domain.com, or else the local server accepts the forwarded
 messages
 again.
 
 Any suggestions would be appreciated.
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 William Hue
 
 
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[courier-users] Still having virual host problems

2002-01-15 Thread Steve McAllister

Several courier users that I know have the same problem and it has been 
posted multiple times before to no avail:
We cannot seem to understand how to do the virtual host thing.
We are hosting several domains and are trying to get courier to work.
Several questions come up and they could all be answered if there was 
someone who had examples of how it should be configured. 

A short list of examples could be understood, the man pages are a little 
vague when it comes to the details. 

The courier virual host document web page is full of holes that no one seems 
to answer when asked on this list. 

Examples:
the dot-courier man:
The file $HOME/.courier specifies how messages are delivered to this 
accountWho's home? and how is it configured? 

To do this, install
$HOME/.courier-foo, with delivery instructions for mail addressed to 
user-foo@domain. What syntax for these delivery instructions? 

Again working examples as oposed to long drawn out instructions would be 
helpful. 

tom 

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[courier-users] rfc2045

2002-01-15 Thread Thomas.Otto

hi all!

i heard on this list that in newer (than my debian woody courier 0.36.0)
versions of courier-mta the rejects of malformed messages go away.
can anyone tell me from which version on, courier-mta attach the malformed
message and dont reject?
are there any problems with this version and the mysqlauth module?

thanks in advance

tommi



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[courier-users] MTA Comparison

2002-01-15 Thread Darren Spruell



Greetz all, 

I see quite a bit of 
documentation and howtos on running courier-imap in conjuction with qmail as an 
mta; I wonder why this is such a popular combination, as opposed to the entire 
courier-mta suite. Can someone shed light on the advantages/disadvantages 
of both?

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TESTINK Re: [courier-users] Disabling courieruucp

2002-01-15 Thread Matthias Andree

On Mon, 14 Jan 2002, Ben Beuchler wrote:

 Is there any way to not run courieruucp?  I have no intention of using
 uucp and I've long been a member of the if you don't need it, don't run
 it school of thought.

 -Ben



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Re: [courier-users] MTA Comparison

2002-01-15 Thread Kirill Miazine

* Darren Spruell [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20020115 07:48]:
 Greetz all, 
 I see quite a bit of documentation and howtos on running courier-imap in
 conjuction with qmail as an mta; I wonder why this is such a popular
 combination, as opposed to the entire courier-mta suite.  Can someone
 shed light on the advantages/disadvantages of both?

Because qmail is so simple to install. Exim is also a popular MTA and
it's also easier to install.

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Re: [courier-users] MTA Comparison

2002-01-15 Thread Yarema

--On Tuesday, January 15, 2002 07:48:55 -0700 Darren Spruell 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I see quite a bit of documentation and howtos on running courier-imap in
 conjuction with qmail as an mta; I wonder why this is such a popular
 combination, as opposed to the entire courier-mta suite.  Can someone
 shed light on the advantages/disadvantages of both?

Because, I think, historically qmail was the where the maildir format was 
invented and courier-imap is the only imap server worth running which 
handles maildir natively.  http://www.courier-mta.org/history.html might 
shed some more light on the topic.

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RE: [courier-users] MTA Comparison

2002-01-15 Thread Darren Spruell

More imput wanted!

does exim have the security reputation (in the real world) that qmail
does?

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* Darren Spruell [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20020115 07:48]:
 Greetz all, 
 I see quite a bit of documentation and howtos on running courier-imap
in
 conjuction with qmail as an mta; I wonder why this is such a popular
 combination, as opposed to the entire courier-mta suite.  Can someone
 shed light on the advantages/disadvantages of both?

Because qmail is so simple to install. Exim is also a popular MTA and
it's also easier to install.

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Re: [courier-users] MTA Comparison

2002-01-15 Thread Kirill Miazine

* Darren Spruell [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20020115 09:03]:
 More imput wanted!
 
 does exim have the security reputation (in the real world) that qmail
 does?

Life With Qmail (http://www.lifewithqmail.org/lwq.html#comparison) says
Exim has low security. I have no idea where that opinion came from. I
spent a lot of time trying to find out why exactly do some people claim
that Exim is unsecure, I couldn't find anything. After all, even DJB
didn't say anything bad about Exim.

  Greetz all, 
  I see quite a bit of documentation and howtos on running courier-imap
  in conjuction with qmail as an mta; I wonder why this is such a popular
  combination, as opposed to the entire courier-mta suite.  Can someone
  shed light on the advantages/disadvantages of both?
 
 Because qmail is so simple to install. Exim is also a popular MTA and
 it's also easier to install.

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[courier-users] mailbox READ-ONLY

2002-01-15 Thread Nerijus Baliunas

Hello,

If I open IMAP mailbox READ-ONLY (with EXAMINE), I cannot delete/undelete
messages, but I can change read/unread status of messages. Why does
courier-imap allow me to do this?

Quoting from RFC 2060:

  The EXAMINE command is identical to SELECT and returns the same
  output; however, the selected mailbox is identified as read-only.
  No changes to the permanent state of the mailbox, including
  per-user state, are permitted.

Regards,
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Re: [courier-users] MTA Comparison

2002-01-15 Thread Phil Brutsche

A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said...

 * Darren Spruell [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20020115 09:03]:
  More imput wanted!
 
  does exim have the security reputation (in the real world) that qmail
  does?

 Life With Qmail (http://www.lifewithqmail.org/lwq.html#comparison)
 says Exim has low security. I have no idea where that opinion came
 from.

I think this opinion came to be in 1996/97 after some qmail proponents
grepped the Exim 1.x source for instances of strcpy and called that a
security audit (I might be remembering the details wrong).

These days that's akin to auditing a WinNT 3.1 installation, finding
problems, then declaring WinXP to have the same problems.  Silly, isn't
it? :)


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[courier-users] Start IMAP server from xinetd?

2002-01-15 Thread Daniel E. Sabath

I've gotten the Courier IMAP server to work on my Linux box (RedHat 7.1),
and it functions fine. However, the courier-imap.sysvinit script doesn't
seem to work for me.

Since this incarnation of Linux uses xinetd to start internet services
rather than inetd, I was looking for suggestions on how to configure the
imap file to start courier-imap(-ssl). FWIW, the imap file in /etc/xinetd.d
(formerly used to start UW IMAP) looks like this:

# default: off
# description: The IMAP service allows remote users to access their
# mail using an IMAP client such as Mutt, Pine, fetchmail, or Netscape
# Communicator.

service imap
{
socket_type = stream
wait= no
user= root
server  = /usr/sbin/imapd
log_on_success  += DURATION USERID
log_on_failure  += USERID
disable = yes  # used to be no, but now using
   # courier-imap started from separate
   # shell script
}

Thanks in advance.

Dan
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Re: [courier-users] Start IMAP server from xinetd?

2002-01-15 Thread Sysop

Daniel E. Sabath wrote:

I've gotten the Courier IMAP server to work on my Linux box (RedHat 7.1),
and it functions fine. However, the courier-imap.sysvinit script doesn't
seem to work for me.

Since this incarnation of Linux uses xinetd to start internet services
rather than inetd, I was looking for suggestions on how to configure the
imap file to start courier-imap(-ssl). FWIW, the imap file in /etc/xinetd.d
(formerly used to start UW IMAP) looks like this:

# default: off
# description: The IMAP service allows remote users to access their
# mail using an IMAP client such as Mutt, Pine, fetchmail, or Netscape
# Communicator.

service imap
{
socket_type = stream
wait= no
user= root
server  = /usr/sbin/imapd
log_on_success  += DURATION USERID
log_on_failure  += USERID
disable = yes  # used to be no, but now using
   # courier-imap started from separate
   # shell script
}

Thanks in advance.

Dan

Did you build rpm's out of the source package?



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RE: [courier-users] MTA Comparison

2002-01-15 Thread Phil Brutsche

A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said...

 More imput wanted!

 does exim have the security reputation (in the real world) that qmail
 does?

qmail's reputation in the real world is:

 * No maintenance - there are a couple bugs in the base qmail-1.03 package
   that need to be patched before it can be used, and that's still not
   counting the SQL, LDAP, SMTP AUTH and SSL patches *that all conflict
   with each other* and add security problems at the same time.
 * Very high security, as long as you don't add too many patches
 * Very high speed

Exim's reputation isn't nearly that of qmail, but I'll take the occasional
Exim security bug in exchange for the power and flexibility (and feature
set!) any day of the week.


Phil


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Re: [courier-users] MTA Comparison

2002-01-15 Thread Peter C. Norton

On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 11:10:35AM -0600, Phil Brutsche wrote:
 I think this opinion came to be in 1996/97 after some qmail proponents
 grepped the Exim 1.x source for instances of strcpy and called that a
 security audit (I might be remembering the details wrong).

Its because the code didn't safely handle strings, and because it ran as a
single monolithic processes so any piece of code means that you own the
whole thing.

 These days that's akin to auditing a WinNT 3.1 installation, finding
 problems, then declaring WinXP to have the same problems.  Silly, isn't
 it? :)

The last exim advisory I see from bugtraq is a format string bug fixed in
version 3.30.  What version is exim at now?

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Re: [courier-users] Auto-upload mail from backup server to main server?

2002-01-15 Thread William Hue

First, thanks to all who replied

Peter C. Norton wrote:

 You could deliver all email that you're intending to forward into a
maildir
 and user djb's serialmail to deliver when you want it to.  Its pretty
simple
 to setup and should work fine with a virtualdomain setup for each
domain
 that you backup.  You could just set serialmail to run ever 5 or 10
minutes
 automaticly and you'd have automated store and forward.

serialmail sounds useful--I'll check into it.  Thanks.

Tim Hosking wrote:

 That's odd. I have a similar set-up and it just works. I don't have to
do
 anything to have the mail relayed to the primary when it comes back
online.
 Assuming that the backup server has an entry for the primary's domain
in
 esmtpacceptmailfor.dir/accept and that domain is not listed in locals
or
 hosteddomains then the forwarding should be automatic.

 I don't pretend to know exactly how this is achieved or indeed if I am

 correct in the above statements, but it sounds to me as if you have a
 configuration error. Can anyone out there clarify this?

You're right.  I have domain.com listed in esmtpacceptmailfor.dir/file
of the
backup server, but I also put it in hosteddomains so that users can
connect to
it to download messages if the primary server is down for a long time.

Bill Michell wrote:

 You have only made a half-hearted attempt at a distributed system
here.
 There would appear to be two possible solutions:
 1) Tell mail2 that it is merely a backup MX for the domain, not the
primary.
 Then it will automatically forward messages when the primary comes
back up -
 but users will not be able to connect to it to download messages
 2) Go for a proper mail cluster. Essentially, you want to set up a
common
 mail store area, either by sharing the file system, or else by
replicating
 content between them.

 The first is much simpler. The second is more resilient, but will take
a
 significant effort.

 Which would you prefer?

I want to do #1, mostly due to the traffic that #2 would generate (the
two
servers are geographically separated by about 1500 miles).  I apologize
for
being unclear in my original post; what I'd like to be able to do is
have
store-and-forward, but also allow clients to connect for messages in
case the
primary server is down for a long time.

Thanks again,

William Hue





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Re[2]: [courier-users] MTA Comparison

2002-01-15 Thread Nerijus Baliunas

On Tue, 15 Jan 2002 19:01:12 +0100 Kirill Miazine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

KM  The last exim advisory I see from bugtraq is a format string bug fixed in
KM  version 3.30.  What version is exim at now?
KM 
KM Exim 3 stable: 3.34
KM Exim 4 alpha:  3.952

http://www.exim.org :

New Things

 Exim Version 3.34 is available - see the availability pages to get hold of a copy.
 Documentation has been patially updated to match. Version 3.34 fixes an exploitable
 (in rare configurations) security bug - upgrading is strongly recommended. 

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Re: [courier-users] Start IMAP server from xinetd?

2002-01-15 Thread Daniel E. Sabath

On 1/15/2002 9:31 AM, Sysop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Daniel E. Sabath wrote:
 
 I've gotten the Courier IMAP server to work on my Linux box (RedHat 7.1),
 and it functions fine. However, the courier-imap.sysvinit script doesn't
 seem to work for me.
 
 Since this incarnation of Linux uses xinetd to start internet services
 rather than inetd, I was looking for suggestions on how to configure the
 imap file to start courier-imap(-ssl).
 
 Did you build rpm's out of the source package?

No, I compiled and installed from the source code.

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[courier-users] Re: Auto-upload mail from backup server to main server?

2002-01-15 Thread Bill Michell

William Hue writes:

 Bill Michell wrote:

 You have only made a half-hearted attempt at a distributed system
 here.
 There would appear to be two possible solutions:
 1) Tell mail2 that it is merely a backup MX for the domain, not the
 primary.
 Then it will automatically forward messages when the primary comes
 back up -
 but users will not be able to connect to it to download messages
 2) Go for a proper mail cluster. Essentially, you want to set up a
 common
 mail store area, either by sharing the file system, or else by
 replicating
 content between them. 

 The first is much simpler. The second is more resilient, but will take
 a
 significant effort. 

 Which would you prefer?
 
 I want to do #1, mostly due to the traffic that #2 would generate (the
 two
 servers are geographically separated by about 1500 miles).  I apologize
 for
 being unclear in my original post; what I'd like to be able to do is
 have
 store-and-forward, but also allow clients to connect for messages in
 case the
 primary server is down for a long time. 
 
This is not trivial to set up - though I can think of several solutions. You 
probably want to fool your backup server into thinking that it is primary, 
and then have some automatic process (fetchmail?) periodically collect mail 
from the backup and deliver it to the primary. You need to be careful to 
avoid mail loops, particularly if the primary is down. 

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Re: [courier-users] Start IMAP server from xinetd?

2002-01-15 Thread Sysop

Daniel E. Sabath wrote:

On 1/15/2002 9:31 AM, Sysop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Daniel E. Sabath wrote:

I've gotten the Courier IMAP server to work on my Linux box (RedHat 7.1),
and it functions fine. However, the courier-imap.sysvinit script doesn't
seem to work for me.

Since this incarnation of Linux uses xinetd to start internet services
rather than inetd, I was looking for suggestions on how to configure the
imap file to start courier-imap(-ssl).

Did you build rpm's out of the source package?


No, I compiled and installed from the source code.

Dan

Well, I build rpm's out of it, and part of what I got was an init script 
for it. So I run courier as a standalone server, through the service 
command, and/or various startup levels.



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RE: [courier-users] Start IMAP server from xinetd?

2002-01-15 Thread Darren Spruell

ultimately, wouldn't running it as a standalone (vs. inetd/xinetd) give
faster performance (Read: response times)?

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Daniel E. Sabath wrote:

On 1/15/2002 9:31 AM, Sysop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Daniel E. Sabath wrote:

I've gotten the Courier IMAP server to work on my Linux box (RedHat
7.1),
and it functions fine. However, the courier-imap.sysvinit script
doesn't
seem to work for me.

Since this incarnation of Linux uses xinetd to start internet
services
rather than inetd, I was looking for suggestions on how to configure
the
imap file to start courier-imap(-ssl).

Did you build rpm's out of the source package?


No, I compiled and installed from the source code.

Dan

Well, I build rpm's out of it, and part of what I got was an init script

for it. So I run courier as a standalone server, through the service 
command, and/or various startup levels.



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[courier-users] auth smtp for cleints but normal for other mtas

2002-01-15 Thread Robert Penz

Hi!

I managed to set the setting that I want only auth smtp for my clients, and 
that works (AUTH_REQUIRED=1), but if I do so, no other mail server can send 
mails to my server (auth failed), it works if I put AUTH_REQUIRED=0, but than 
the server is open for spammers

I did look at the docs and also at the mailinglist, about that topic. can you 
help me please.

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Re: [courier-users] Still having virual host problems

2002-01-15 Thread Juha Saarinen

On Tue, 15 Jan 2002, Steve McAllister wrote:

  We cannot seem to understand how to do the virtual host thing.

How far have you got?

  We are hosting several domains and are trying to get courier to work.
  Several questions come up and they could all be answered if there was
  someone who had examples of how it should be configured.

  A short list of examples could be understood, the man pages are a little
  vague when it comes to the details.

  The courier virual host document web page is full of holes that no one seems
  to answer when asked on this list.

Seems pretty good to me...

  Examples:
  the dot-courier man:
  The file $HOME/.courier specifies how messages are delivered to this
  accountWho's home? and how is it configured?

$HOME, not home.

Viz:

pts/0 juha@vimfuego:~$ echo $HOME
/home/juha


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Re: [courier-users] Start IMAP server from xinetd?

2002-01-15 Thread Juha Saarinen

On Tue, 15 Jan 2002, Daniel E. Sabath wrote:

  I've gotten the Courier IMAP server to work on my Linux box (RedHat 7.1),
  and it functions fine. However, the courier-imap.sysvinit script doesn't
  seem to work for me.

What's the error message? It works fine here.

  Since this incarnation of Linux uses xinetd to start internet services
  rather than inetd, I was looking for suggestions on how to configure the
  imap file to start courier-imap(-ssl). FWIW, the imap file in /etc/xinetd.d
  (formerly used to start UW IMAP) looks like this:

Normally, you'd do:

service courier-imap {start | restart | reload | etc}

instead. The init script is installed with the RPM. I wouldn't mess with
xinetd.

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Re: [courier-users] Start IMAP server from xinetd?

2002-01-15 Thread Juha Saarinen

On Tue, 15 Jan 2002, Daniel E. Sabath wrote:

  No, I compiled and installed from the source code.

You could've just created the RPM packages by doing:

rpm -ta $courier-imap-version.tar.gz

... and saved yourself a lot of trouble. Now your files are likely to be
in locations not so suitable for RHL, and upgrading will be a PITA.

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[courier-users] make check fails

2002-01-15 Thread Kirill Miazine

Hello,

I'm trying to build the entire courier mta. Both ./configure and gmake
go without any errors, gmake check however gives following:

gmake[2]: Leaving directory 
`/home/kirillm/src/courier-0.37.0.20020112/courier/module.uucp'
Making check in module.local
gmake[2]: Entering directory 
`/home/kirillm/src/courier-0.37.0.20020112/courier/module.local'
./testsuite | cmp -s - ./testsuite.txt
gmake[2]: *** [check] Error 1
gmake[2]: Leaving directory 
`/home/kirillm/src/courier-0.37.0.20020112/courier/module.local'
gmake[1]: *** [check-recursive] Error 1
gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/home/kirillm/src/courier-0.37.0.20020112/courier'
gmake: *** [check-recursive] Error 1

./testsuite obviously gives other output that provided in
/testsuite.txt.

Operating system is OpenBSD 3.0. 

I ran ./configure as:

./configure --prefix=/local/courier \
--with-db=db \
--with-mailuser=daemon \
--with-mailgroup=daemon \
--without-ipv6 \
--with-paranoid-smtpext \
--with-authuserdb \
--with-authcram \
--without-authpam \
--without-authldap \
--without-authpwd \
--without-authmysql \
--without-authpgsql \
--without-authshadow \
--without-authvchkpw \
--without-authdaemon \
--disable-changepass \
--without-certdb \
--enable-imageurl=/images/courier \
--enable-https=auto \
--with-cachedir=/var/log/www/data/courier \
--with-cacheowner=67 \
--without-gzip \
--enable-mimetypes=/etc/mutt/mime.types \
--enable-mimecharset=iso-8859-1

Thank you.

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Re: [courier-users] Start IMAP server from xinetd?

2002-01-15 Thread Daniel E. Sabath

On 1/15/2002 11:14 AM, Juha Saarinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tue, 15 Jan 2002, Daniel E. Sabath wrote:
 
  I've gotten the Courier IMAP server to work on my Linux box (RedHat 7.1),
  and it functions fine. However, the courier-imap.sysvinit script doesn't
  seem to work for me.
 
 What's the error message? It works fine here.
 
  Since this incarnation of Linux uses xinetd to start internet services
  rather than inetd, I was looking for suggestions on how to configure the
  imap file to start courier-imap(-ssl). FWIW, the imap file in /etc/xinetd.d
  (formerly used to start UW IMAP) looks like this:
 
 Normally, you'd do:
 
 service courier-imap {start | restart | reload | etc}
 
 instead. The init script is installed with the RPM. I wouldn't mess with
 xinetd.

I finally figured out the problem. In /usr/lib/courier-imap/etc/imap and
/usr/lib/courier-imap/etc/imap-ssl I did not have the appropriate NO
changed to YES to allow the init script to activate the server. All is
well now and xinetd is irrelevant. Sorry to have wasted the bandwidth.

Dan
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Re: [courier-users] auth smtp for cleints but normal for other mtas

2002-01-15 Thread Roland Schneider

--Robert Penz wrote on 15.01.2002 19:55 +0100:

 I managed to set the setting that I want only auth smtp for my clients, and 
 that works (AUTH_REQUIRED=1), but if I do so, no other mail server can send 
 mails to my server (auth failed), it works if I put AUTH_REQUIRED=0, but than 
 the server is open for spammers

No, relaying is only possible for those listed explicitly
in etc/smtpaccess with RELAYCLIENT set.

 I did look at the docs and also at the mailinglist, about that topic. can you 
 help me please.

Courier works that way 'out of the box'.

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Re: [courier-users] make check fails

2002-01-15 Thread Kirill Miazine

* Kirill Miazine [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20020115 20:38]:
 Hello,
 
 I'm trying to build the entire courier mta. Both ./configure and gmake
 go without any errors, gmake check however gives following:
 
 gmake[2]: Leaving directory 
`/home/kirillm/src/courier-0.37.0.20020112/courier/module.uucp'
 Making check in module.local
 gmake[2]: Entering directory 
`/home/kirillm/src/courier-0.37.0.20020112/courier/module.local'
 ./testsuite | cmp -s - ./testsuite.txt
 gmake[2]: *** [check] Error 1
 gmake[2]: Leaving directory 
`/home/kirillm/src/courier-0.37.0.20020112/courier/module.local'
 gmake[1]: *** [check-recursive] Error 1
 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/home/kirillm/src/courier-0.37.0.20020112/courier'
 gmake: *** [check-recursive] Error 1

I just went to
/home/kirillm/src/courier-0.37.0.20020112/courier/module.local and
performed following:

./testsuite  test.out
diff test.out ./testsuite.txt

The last command printed out:

80,84d79
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: test of dynamic delivery instructions.
 
 test

I will install Courier anyway and see if something is not working
correctly. In any case I'd appreciate any feedback on my problem.

Thanks,

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Re: [courier-users] auth smtp for cleints but normal for other mtas

2002-01-15 Thread Robert Penz

On Tuesday 15 January 2002 21:39, you wrote:
 --Robert Penz wrote on 15.01.2002 19:55 +0100:
  I managed to set the setting that I want only auth smtp for my clients,
  and that works (AUTH_REQUIRED=1), but if I do so, no other mail server
  can send mails to my server (auth failed), it works if I put
  AUTH_REQUIRED=0, but than the server is open for spammers
 No, relaying is only possible for those listed explicitly
 in etc/smtpaccess with RELAYCLIENT set.
but I need to use relaying not based on ips, as my clients can sit around the 
world, so the need auth smtp, how to I set that in the smtpaccess?

  I did look at the docs and also at the mailinglist, about that topic. can
  you help me please.
 Courier works that way 'out of the box'.
so that user with user/password can send a mail from anywhere to anywhere?


-- 
Regards,
Robert

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[courier-users] Announcements low volume ML

2002-01-15 Thread Sébastien ROZIER



Hi,
I use Courrier IMAP and I'd like to know if there 
is any way to get informed about new releases.
Is there a low traffic ML for announcement 
?

Thanx

Seb


[courier-users] Compile Problem on Solaris

2002-01-15 Thread Victor

OS: Solaris 2.7
Courier: 1.4.1

Hi. I am trying to compile Courier on solaris and having this issue:

ld.so.1: /usr/local/courier/libexec/couriertcpd: fatal: libgdbm.so.2: open
failed: No such file or directory

when I run the compiled executable (using imapd.rc start). I tried setting
the LDFLAGS variable but to no avail. libgdbm.2 is in /usr/local/lib and
when I do ldd on couriertcpd, it lists the library (so it finds it)

I decided to try to compile with DB3 but my DB code is in
/usr/local/BerkeleyDB.3.3 and during compile, it complaints it can't find
db.h. Is there a way to tell the configure script that the location of the
DB library is in /usr/local/BerkeleyDB.3.3?

Or is there a way to somehow fix the problem with gdbm?

Thanks



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Re: [courier-users] Announcements low volume ML

2002-01-15 Thread Papo Napolitano

http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/courier-announce

HTH... Later.-

- Original Message -
From: Sébastien ROZIER
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 18:56
Subject: [courier-users] Announcements low volume ML


Hi,
I use Courrier IMAP and I'd like to know if there is any way to get informed
about new releases.
Is there a low traffic ML for announcement ?

Thanx

Seb


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[courier-users] Re: Start IMAP server from xinetd?

2002-01-15 Thread Sam Varshavchik

Darren Spruell writes: 

 ultimately, wouldn't running it as a standalone (vs. inetd/xinetd) give
 faster performance (Read: response times)?

Not necessarily.  Furthermore, couriertcpd contains built-in measures 
against denial-of-service attacks by rogue Microsoft clients. 

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[courier-users] Re: Still having virual host problems

2002-01-15 Thread Sam Varshavchik

Steve McAllister writes:

 The courier virual host document web page is full of holes that no one
 seems to answer when asked on this list.

 Examples:
 the dot-courier man:
 The file $HOME/.courier specifies how messages are delivered to this
 accountWho's home?

The account's, of course.

 and how is it configured?

Create an account, in your authentication database, and specify its home
directory.

 To do this, install
 $HOME/.courier-foo, with delivery instructions for mail addressed to
 user-foo@domain. What syntax for these delivery instructions?

See the dot-courier man page, starting with DELIVERY INSTRUCTIONS.  You
will find the description for every allowed delivery instruction.

Here, I'll even spell it allow for you:

  Blank lines in the file are ignored. Lines  starting  with
  the # character are comments, and are also ignored. Other­
  wise, each line specifies one of three  possible  delivery
  instructions:  deliver  to  a system mailbox or a Maildir;
  run an external program; or forward the message to another
  address.

You'll have to read the rest yourself.

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[courier-users] Re: Auto-upload mail from backup server to main server?

2002-01-15 Thread Sam Varshavchik

Tim Hosking writes: 


 That's odd. I have a similar set-up and it just works. I don't have to do
 anything to have the mail relayed to the primary when it comes back online.
 Assuming that the backup server has an entry for the primary's domain in
 esmtpacceptmailfor.dir/accept and that domain is not listed in locals or
 hosteddomains then the forwarding should be automatic. 
 
 I don't pretend to know exactly how this is achieved or indeed if I am
 correct in the above statements, but it sounds to me as if you have a

This is correct.  This is achieved simply by following the instructions in 
INSTALL: 

Define local domains 

  The  configuration  file  /usr/lib/courier/etc/locals is a list of all
  the  domains  that  are  considered  local. Mail to any address in any
  local  domain  is  handled  as a local delivery. If this file does not
  exist  Courier  will use the contents of the me configuration file, or
  it will obtain its machine name from the operating system.

  This  file contains a list of domains, one per line. In most cases you
  need  to initialize this file to contain every hostname that has a DNS
  A,  or  ,  record  pointing  to  any  IP  address assigned to this
  machine,  including  localhost. 

... 

Create a list of domains to accept mail for 

  If  you  would like your server to function as a backup mail relay for
  other domains, create /usr/lib/courier/etc/esmtpacceptmailfor. This is
  a  plain  text  file, containing a list of domains, one per line. This
  file  lists all domains your server will accept mail for. NOTE: if you
  create this file, you MUST include all your local domains. Usually you
  can  simply  append  what  you have in /usr/lib/courier/etc/locals. 

If you've followed these instructions to the letter, Courier will correctly 
function as a backup MX. 

The most common cause of backup MX misconfiguration is forgetting to list 
all hostnames with one of your A/ records in locals (or hosteddomains). 
If that happens, Courier may not see itself listed as an MX for a given 
domain, and treat it no differently than any other remote domain, and ending 
up looping all mail to itself, until it bounces. 

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[courier-users] Correct Installion errors use webadmin

2002-01-15 Thread Kenneth


Just thought I'd put in a good word for webadmin.

I walked through the install instructions twice.  First time I did
|
make install DESTDIR=/var/tmp/courier-inst|
make install-perms
make test
make install
make install-configure

I ended up with /usr/lib/courier/bin/sendmail that would only run as 
root and gave me 400 error code?  I had trouble diagnosing this as it's 
setuid root so user mode debugging is difficult and the problem doesn't 
manifest when running as root!
(also by the time I got to that point in the instructions I needed esmtp 
running as I am not decomissioning an existing mail service but the 
instructions had not  told me to run it yet).
make install
make install-configure

I got error 450(?) service not available?  Decided to give webadmin a 
try.  Worked like a charm!  I highly recommend it and am willing to work 
with Sam (or whoever to integrate the documentation into webadmin) to 
make it more tutorial like.

Just my two cents.


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CTO and Cat Herder
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[courier-users] unsbuscribe

2002-01-15 Thread tucker



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Re: [courier-users] Auto-upload mail from backup server to main server?

2002-01-15 Thread Peter C. Norton

Its easy to use, but if the documentation doesn't do it for you let me know
and I'll send you a one-liner that works for me from a backup host.

For those who are interested the advantages of this over a normal backup MX
scenario are as follows:

1) Serialmail never bounces.  If your DNS gets completely shot and you're
upstream nameserver is returning authoritative nxdomain for your main server
while its unreachable (or something along those lines) and your backup host
works, serialmail will not bounce the email - it'll just retry.

2) Its seperate from your other services.  Nice, small, and self-contained.

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[courier-users] etc/esmtpd typo

2002-01-15 Thread Kirill Miazine

courier-0.37.0.20020112, file etc/esmtpd and etc/esmtpd.dist:

##NAME: MAXPERID:0
MAXPERIP=5

The ##NAME thing should also be MAXPERIP, shouldn't it?

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[courier-users] Suggested patch for RFC2045.

2002-01-15 Thread Marcus Felipe Pereira

Hi,

  sorry for returning for this so discussed matter.

  In the patch below I suggest that there is NO change in the behavior of
Courier related to email servers that violates RFC2045 EXCEPT if the
environment variable IGNORE_RFC2045 is set to '1'.

  So for those who must accept these messages without the rewrite the they
just need to add this line to esmtpd  configuration file:
IGNORE_RFC2045=1

  I repeat that there will be no change in how Courier deal with these
messages unless this line is added.

  This simple patch changes only 4 lines in the code and will prevent a
recompilation for many people.

Marcus





--- courier-0.37.0/courier/submit2.C Sat Dec 15 19:19:01 2001
+++ courier-0.37.0.patch/courier/submit2.C Tue Jan 15 21:51:53 2002
@@ -777,6 +777,8 @@
 {
 int is8bit=0, dorewrite=0, rwmode=0;
 const char *mime=getenv(MIME);
+const char *ign=getenv(IGNORE_RFC2045);
+const int ignore_rfc2045=(ign  *ign=='1'?1:0);
 unsigned n;
 struct stat stat_buf;
 const char *rfcerr=NULL;
@@ -800,12 +802,12 @@
   return (1);
  }

- if (rwrfcptr-rfcviolation  RFC2045_ERR8BITHEADER)
+ if (!ignore_rfc2045  (rwrfcptr-rfcviolation  RFC2045_ERR8BITHEADER))
  {
   rfcerr= SYSCONFDIR /rfcerr2047.txt;
   dorewrite=1;
 }
- else if (rwrfcptr-rfcviolation  RFC2045_ERR8BITCONTENT)
+ else if (!ignore_rfc2045  (rwrfcptr-rfcviolation 
RFC2045_ERR8BITCONTENT))
  {
   rfcerr= SYSCONFDIR /rfcerr2045.txt;
   dorewrite=1;

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Re: [courier-users] MTA Comparison

2002-01-15 Thread Drew Raines

Valdas Andrulis [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Qmail without patches is of no use in real world.

Ridiculous.  Every MTA has its merits.

Millions of emails are sent daily with stock qmail.

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Re: [courier-users] Compile Problem on Solaris

2002-01-15 Thread William Hue

I use Courier on both SunOS 5.7 and 5.8 (Solaris 7 and 8), and I had to do the
following in /usr/lib (sorry for the wrapping):

lrwxrwxrwx   1 root other 25 Aug  4 10:45 libgdbm.1a -
/usr/local/lib/libgdbm.1a
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root other 24 Aug  4 10:45 libgdbm.a -
/usr/local/lib/libgdbm.a
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root other 31 Aug  4 10:46 libgdbm.so -
/usr/local/lib/libgdbm.so.2.0.0
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root other 31 Aug  4 10:46 libgdbm.so.2 -
/usr/local/lib/libgdbm.so.2.0.0
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root other 31 Aug  4 10:46 libgdbm.so.2.0.0 -
/usr/local/lib/libgdbm.so.2.0.0

William

Victor wrote:
 
 OS: Solaris 2.7
 Courier: 1.4.1
 
 Hi. I am trying to compile Courier on solaris and having this issue:
 
 ld.so.1: /usr/local/courier/libexec/couriertcpd: fatal: libgdbm.so.2: open
 failed: No such file or directory
 
 when I run the compiled executable (using imapd.rc start). I tried setting
 the LDFLAGS variable but to no avail. libgdbm.2 is in /usr/local/lib and
 when I do ldd on couriertcpd, it lists the library (so it finds it)
 
 I decided to try to compile with DB3 but my DB code is in
 /usr/local/BerkeleyDB.3.3 and during compile, it complaints it can't find
 db.h. Is there a way to tell the configure script that the location of the
 DB library is in /usr/local/BerkeleyDB.3.3?
 
 Or is there a way to somehow fix the problem with gdbm?
 
 Thanks
 
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[courier-users] esmtpd TLS advertised but not supported

2002-01-15 Thread alan milligan

Hi,

My smtp server  (courier-0.36.1.20011210) advertises TLS:
[root@mistress /root]# telnet balclutha.org 25
Trying 193.165.250.58...
Connected to balclutha.org.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 balclutha.org ESMTP
ehlo somewhere.com
250-balclutha.org Ok.
250-XVERP
250-XEXDATA
250-XSECURITY=NONE,STARTTLS
250-PIPELINING
250-8BITMIME
250-SIZE
250 DSN


but when testing using my NS4.76 Messenger client, I get the following:

Jan 16 04:06:32 gimp courieresmtpd: started,ip=[:::213.1.84.228]
Jan 16 04:06:32 gimp courieresmtpd: error,relay=:::213.1.84.228,msg=540 
TLS not available.,cmd: STARTTLS

I believe that installing the TLS_CERTIFICATE and having couriertls is 
sufficient to advertise this service.  What else should I have done???

Cheers, Alan



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[courier-users] Re: esmtpd TLS advertised but not supported

2002-01-15 Thread Sam Varshavchik

alan milligan writes: 

 Hi, 
 
 My smtp server  (courier-0.36.1.20011210) advertises TLS:
 [root@mistress /root]# telnet balclutha.org 25
 Trying 193.165.250.58...
 Connected to balclutha.org.
 Escape character is '^]'.
 220 balclutha.org ESMTP
 ehlo somewhere.com
 250-balclutha.org Ok.
 250-XVERP
 250-XEXDATA
 250-XSECURITY=NONE,STARTTLS
 250-PIPELINING
 250-8BITMIME
 250-SIZE
 250 DSN

Your server does not advertize TLS.  XSECURITY is a Courier-specific ESMTP 
extension that requires TLS, but you do not have it configured. 

 I believe that installing the TLS_CERTIFICATE and having couriertls is 
 sufficient to advertise this service.  What else should I have done???

See the comments in the esmtpd configuration file. 

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Re: [courier-users] Compile Problem on Solaris

2002-01-15 Thread Ken Herron

--On Tuesday, January 15, 2002 05:06:49 PM -0500 Victor 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi. I am trying to compile Courier on solaris and having this issue:

 ld.so.1: /usr/local/courier/libexec/couriertcpd: fatal: libgdbm.so.2:
 open failed: No such file or directory

 when I run the compiled executable (using imapd.rc start). I tried
 setting the LDFLAGS variable but to no avail. libgdbm.2 is in
 /usr/local/lib and when I do ldd on couriertcpd, it lists the library
 (so it finds it)

Notwithstanding the fact you solved your problem, you probably just 
needed to add -R /usr/local/lib to LDFLAGS to add that directory to 
each executable's runtime search path.  I just built courier-imap for 
Solaris the other day, and this is the little script I wrote to run 
configure:

#!/bin/ksh

export CPPFLAGS='-I/usr/local/include'
export CFLAGS='-g -O'
export LDFLAGS='-L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib'

exec ./configure --prefix=/opt/courier \
--enable-workarounds-for-imap-client-bugs \
--without-ipv6 \
--without-tcpdns \
--with-authshadow \
--without-authldap \
--with-waitfunc=wait3

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[courier-users] imap proxy

2002-01-15 Thread Roman Serbski

Hi list

I'm sorry for probably OT question.
I use stand-alone Courier-IMAP 1.4.0 SSL with Qmail/Vpopmail - 
everything works ok. Now we're going to redesign our network and 
implement DMZ/private LAN scheme. I'm planning to have two mail servers: 
one server goes to DMZ (real IP addresses) and acts as a mail 
relay/forwarder + AVI/SPAM scanning, another server goes to private LAN 
(192.168.0.0) and actually stores usernames and passwords. Mail relaying 
is OK, I saw some hints in qmail FAQ how to forward mail to another mail 
server. But the problem is that I have to have IMAP-SSL access from 
outside (from Internet) - so I think about some kind of IMAP-SSL 
proxying, when users from Internet try to access mail server in DMZ and 
this server, in some way, forwards login information/mail to the server 
in private LAN (it'll run Courier-IMAP SSL).

Is it possible to make this with Courier-IMAP or this is wrong list to 
ask? May be someone here has a similiar setup - please help me.

Looking forward to hear from you.

Regards,
Roman

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