Re: [courier-users] Fwd: Looking for new Debian maintainers for courier-mta packages

2016-12-10 Thread Mark Constable 
On 11/12/16 03:09, SZÉPE Viktor wrote:
> On 07/12/16 00:04, Ondřej Surý wrote:
>> I have filled RFH (Request for Help) bug on courier package, but
>> nobody responded so far. Today I have changed that to RFA (Request
>> for Adoption) and I intend to properly orphan the packages before
>> stretch release and remove them from next Debian stable release.
>> Well, unless somebody comes up and makes a hard promise to take
>> care of all Courier MTA till Debian stretch (next stable)
>> end-of-life and becomes maintainers.

This was one of the saddest emails I have ever received.

If my servers ran Archlinux I'd have no problem building from source,
and even maintaining a source package in AUR, but even though I am a
staunch ubuntu-server user I really don't like debs (or rpm) packaging.

I have little choice left but to start testing postfix/dovecot :-(

And so far I really despise what I see after becoming so comfortable
with courier. No SNI (SSL on a single IP) for a start and goodness
knows what else will be awkward to impossible to achieve compared to
the relative ease and unified sanity of the courier suite.

And not least of all the superb effort put in by Sam, and others, on
this list to provide a level of consistent free support rarely seen
elsewhere (in my experience.)

> I could lend a hand to the maintainer for couple of hours/month. I
> am Courier user and I am able to put together simple, lintian-free
> packages
>
> https://github.com/szepeviktor/debian-server-tools/tree/master/security/myattackers-ipsets/ipset-persistent/debian
>
> Though I've never used Debian's source/build infrastructure.

That's very encouraging. I am less experienced with Debian packaging than
you so I'm not sure I can do much to help. It looks like ra...@linuxia.de
has retired from the original Debian packages and Ondřej put in an amazing
effort to re-package the latest source to run under the "courier" user
instead of the previous "daemon" user (more in line with original source).

Some discussion on ubuntu-devel-disc...@lists.ubuntu.com might dig up some
more support and help determine if Ondřejs' packages could replace the
current way-to-old barely-on-life-support package set.

> Two things:
> The package has no git source https://packages.qa.debian.org/c/courier.html
> Courier upstream has no bug-tracking system.
>
> I would choose GitHub as a place to store /debian and to communicate
> with upstream.

Unfortunately Sam doesn't seem interested in moving his whole development
system over to Github.

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Re: [courier-users] Fwd: Looking for new Debian maintainers for courier-mta packages

2016-12-10 Thread SZÉPE Viktor 
Hello Courier users!

I could lend a hand to the maintainer for couple of hours/month.
I am Courier user and I am able to put together simple, lintian-free packages
https://github.com/szepeviktor/debian-server-tools/tree/master/security/myattackers-ipsets/ipset-persistent/debian

Though I've never used Debian's source/build infrastructure.

Two things:
The package has no git source https://packages.qa.debian.org/c/courier.html
Courier upstream has no bug-tracking system.

I would choose GitHub as a place to store /debian and to communicate  
with upstream.






Idézem/Quoting Mark Constable :

> Apologies if this is a repost but I couldn't find it in the  
> courier-users@ archives.
>
>
>  Forwarded Message 
> Subject: Looking for new Debian maintainers for courier-mta packages
> Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2016 15:04:59 +0100
> From: Ondřej Surý 
> To: debian-de...@lists.debian.org, Willi Mann ,  
> courier-i...@lists.sourceforge.net
> CC: Mark Constable 
>
> Hi,
>
> TL;DR I am looking for prospective courier-mta maintainers for Courier
> MTA packages.
>
> a little history - Mark Constable asked me a while ago if I could
> prepare updated Courier MTA packages for Ubuntu PPA. As a part of that I
> whipped the courier-authlib, courier-unicode and courier packages up to
> modern Debian packages standard and did some more improvements to the
> packaging (as privilege separation on separate 'courier' user). I also
> merged non-TLS and TLS versions and did some more changes (most of it
> could be found in debian/changelog and/or in git log).
>
> I did my best to break as little things as possible, but the changes to
> the packages were massive. There's one problem though - I am not active
> Courier MTA user, so I can do my best from Debian point of view, but I
> am unable to do any extensive testing.
>
> Therefore I am looking for active Courier MTA users that happen to be
> either Debian Developers, Debian Maintainers, or just people that would
> be happy to learn the Debian Packaging - I would be more than happy to
> provide guidance in such case.
>
> I have filled RFH (Request for Help) bug on courier package, but nobody
> responded so far. Today I have changed that to RFA (Request for
> Adoption) and I intend to properly orphan the packages before stretch
> release and remove them from next Debian stable release. Well, unless
> somebody comes up and makes a hard promise to take care of all Courier
> MTA till Debian stretch (next stable) end-of-life and becomes
> maintainers.
>
> Please note that the bug list on src:courier is rather long:
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?repeatmerged=no=courier
> (143 filled bugs) and it will need some time to comb through the list,
> close the non-issues, fix the Debian related bugs and forward the
> appropriate bugs to upstream. I would suggest it might be better this
> would be a team effort.
>
> Cheers,
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>
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