On 11/12/16 03:09, SZÉPE Viktor wrote:
> On 07/12/16 00:04, Ondřej Surý wrote:
>> I have filled RFH (Request for Help) bug on courier package, but
>> nobody responded so far. Today I have changed that to RFA (Request
>> for Adoption) and I intend to properly orphan the packages before
>> stretch release and remove them from next Debian stable release.
>> Well, unless somebody comes up and makes a hard promise to take
>> care of all Courier MTA till Debian stretch (next stable)
>> end-of-life and becomes maintainers.

This was one of the saddest emails I have ever received.

If my servers ran Archlinux I'd have no problem building from source,
and even maintaining a source package in AUR, but even though I am a
staunch ubuntu-server user I really don't like debs (or rpm) packaging.

I have little choice left but to start testing postfix/dovecot :-(

And so far I really despise what I see after becoming so comfortable
with courier. No SNI (SSL on a single IP) for a start and goodness
knows what else will be awkward to impossible to achieve compared to
the relative ease and unified sanity of the courier suite.

And not least of all the superb effort put in by Sam, and others, on
this list to provide a level of consistent free support rarely seen
elsewhere (in my experience.)

> I could lend a hand to the maintainer for couple of hours/month. I
> am Courier user and I am able to put together simple, lintian-free
> packages
>
> https://github.com/szepeviktor/debian-server-tools/tree/master/security/myattackers-ipsets/ipset-persistent/debian
>
> Though I've never used Debian's source/build infrastructure.

That's very encouraging. I am less experienced with Debian packaging than
you so I'm not sure I can do much to help. It looks like ra...@linuxia.de
has retired from the original Debian packages and Ondřej put in an amazing
effort to re-package the latest source to run under the "courier" user
instead of the previous "daemon" user (more in line with original source).

Some discussion on ubuntu-devel-disc...@lists.ubuntu.com might dig up some
more support and help determine if Ondřejs' packages could replace the
current way-to-old barely-on-life-support package set.

> Two things:
> The package has no git source https://packages.qa.debian.org/c/courier.html
> Courier upstream has no bug-tracking system.
>
> I would choose GitHub as a place to store /debian and to communicate
> with upstream.

Unfortunately Sam doesn't seem interested in moving his whole development
system over to Github.

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