Re: [Coworking] Coaching subscription

[Jamie Tyrell]

Hi:

I think that offering coaching services are more or less already a given.
In that, people are for the most part wanting to help others succeed in
their business.  While I am unsure as to what coaching services you would
offer, I ask out loud are you creating a new ecosystem within your space or
more defining it as a mentorship/colab space?  If so, then it is a matter
of determining how much to charge your members based on that and think of
it as they are paying for a mentorship service with a monthly membership
attached to it.   So you, in turn, are not renting space, but paying for a
service that just happens to come with free wifi, a desk and some great
conversations.

Jamie Tyrell

On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 at 11:40,  wrote:

> Hello Everyone!
> I am working on my coworking concept, and want to offer coaching
> services.  This will add overhead to the basic membership.  I think it
> could add value to the community, but not sure if my niche client,
> "entrepreneur", will be able to afford this type of service.  I want to
> build a coworking space that is focused on growing the individuals in the
> community, not just another corporate office space for rent.  My question
> is, has anyone offered coaching services before, and who would be the
> targeted client?   Freelancer? Startups?  Entrepreneurs?  Although I love
> this idea, I fear I will have no market for it.  Thoughts? Thanks. Trey
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[Coworking] Buildout with Emagispace - has anyone used them?

[Craig Baute - Creative Density Coworking]

I am looking to change up my layout a bit with a small wall that is going 
to be around 9' x 7' with a door and a window. I got a bid from a 
traditional contractor. It's about the same price as Emagispace, a building 
block system to add walls, but I have to install it myself or hire someone 
to do it. I'm curious if anyone has any experience with Emagispace and what 
their impressions are.

Overall, I'm excited to try something like this because I can remove it in 
the future if the space needs to change.

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Re: [Coworking] number of electrical outlets in offices

[Katrina Dye]

Thank you!

On Tue, Jan 22, 2019, 11:02 AM Richard Chaing <
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> One per wall. Different clients will move the desk around.
>
> On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 1:41 PM Katrina Dye  wrote:
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>> Hi Everyone,
>>
>> Just curious how many electrical outlets is standard for an office.  Our
>> offices aren't closed top, and include one outlet along with data ports.
>> Offices are 10X12, can we just add a good power bar?
>>
>> 1 additional outlet per office is running about 3K.
>>
>> Thanks!!
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[Coworking] Member policy, coworking rules, house rules

[Branton McMahan]

Hello!
I am an intern with Epiphany Space in Los Angeles, CA, this semester and my 
superiors are looking to expand their business. Thus, they have tasked me 
with gathering information on member policy, coworking rules, house rules, 
etc. If you could please assist me, myself and my bosses would really 
appreciate it. Thank you!

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Re: [Coworking] Re: Printing - Cloud Solution?

[Eric Haas]

Craig! et al

Thanks for raising your solution and that also crossed my mind.
However there are a couple of con's that came into mind during my brief
evaluation:
- it might be wise to create a bit of a barrier for printing... no barrier
(me as well!!) - will print much easier and without too much thought
(reality experience)
- and if people print endlessly and for lots that chance of machines
wearing out, standing still not operational is higher plus the maintenance
costs will raise

For the complete and big picture this should be taken into account as well!

Cheers,
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Coworking :

> We have taken a MUCH simpler approach. *Printing is free. *
>
> Before you announce that this a costly option, let me explain how we got
> to this point.
>
> We use to have a traditional HP / Epson / you name it printer where ink
> cost $50 to $125 to replace every 1,000 to 2,000 pages, but quality usually
> diminished after 1,000 pages. This was not a horrible expense but it did
> cost around $80 a month.
>
> *WE SWITCHED to the Ecotank* system by Epson. We replace ink every 6
> months and it only cost $40 to replace with genuine ink.
>
> You can add to the Wifi network, Epson to their own cloud, to Google
> Cloud, or to associated to an email address. With Google Cloud you don't
> need to install any printer drivers. It's all very simple.
>
> The money you'll with Ezeep will be more than the cost of the ink. Plus,
> everyone is familiar with adding a simple printer driver. Yes, their are
> hiccups on some computers, but members understand.
>
> Go free and your members will find even more value in your space. Adding
> barriers often adds more work than it's financial cost and emotional stress.
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Re: [Coworking] Re: Printing - Cloud Solution?

[Jerome Chang]

Thanks Craig. Very smart in looking at the end-to-end costs.
Some of us, gulp, lease those $300-$400/mo copier/printers, plus consumables 
like paper. So, I think in these cases, the economics dictate charging. :-/

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> On Jan 22, 2019, at 8:46 AM, Craig Baute - Creative Density Coworking 
>  wrote:
> 
> We have taken a MUCH simpler approach. Printing is free. 
> 
> Before you announce that this a costly option, let me explain how we got to 
> this point.
> 
> We use to have a traditional HP / Epson / you name it printer where ink cost 
> $50 to $125 to replace every 1,000 to 2,000 pages, but quality usually 
> diminished after 1,000 pages. This was not a horrible expense but it did cost 
> around $80 a month.
> 
> WE SWITCHED to the Ecotank system by Epson. We replace ink every 6 months and 
> it only cost $40 to replace with genuine ink.
> 
> You can add to the Wifi network, Epson to their own cloud, to Google Cloud, 
> or to associated to an email address. With Google Cloud you don't need to 
> install any printer drivers. It's all very simple. 
> 
> The money you'll with Ezeep will be more than the cost of the ink. Plus, 
> everyone is familiar with adding a simple printer driver. Yes, their are 
> hiccups on some computers, but members understand.
> 
> Go free and your members will find even more value in your space. Adding 
> barriers often adds more work than it's financial cost and emotional stress.
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Re: [Coworking] number of electrical outlets in offices

[Richard Chaing]

One per wall. Different clients will move the desk around.

On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 1:41 PM Katrina Dye  wrote:

> Hi Everyone,
>
> Just curious how many electrical outlets is standard for an office.  Our
> offices aren't closed top, and include one outlet along with data ports.
> Offices are 10X12, can we just add a good power bar?
>
> 1 additional outlet per office is running about 3K.
>
> Thanks!!
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[Coworking] Re: Printing - Cloud Solution?

[Craig Baute - Creative Density Coworking]

We have taken a MUCH simpler approach. *Printing is free. *

Before you announce that this a costly option, let me explain how we got to 
this point.

We use to have a traditional HP / Epson / you name it printer where ink 
cost $50 to $125 to replace every 1,000 to 2,000 pages, but quality usually 
diminished after 1,000 pages. This was not a horrible expense but it did 
cost around $80 a month.

*WE SWITCHED to the Ecotank* system by Epson. We replace ink every 6 months 
and it only cost $40 to replace with genuine ink.

You can add to the Wifi network, Epson to their own cloud, to Google Cloud, 
or to associated to an email address. With Google Cloud you don't need to 
install any printer drivers. It's all very simple. 

The money you'll with Ezeep will be more than the cost of the ink. Plus, 
everyone is familiar with adding a simple printer driver. Yes, their are 
hiccups on some computers, but members understand.

Go free and your members will find even more value in your space. Adding 
barriers often adds more work than it's financial cost and emotional stress.

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Re: [Coworking] Re: Printing - Cloud Solution?

[Jana Greer]

Eric,

I believe it was launched with Xerox machines for testing. 

Not sure when Konica Minolta and others would be in testing. 

Not being able to track copies through ezeep which then feeds into Nexudus for 
billing made the value of it less for us as staff. We still had to pull the 
account track report and bill manually. 

- Jana Greer

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Re: [Coworking] Waitlist Policy?

[Alex Hillman]

It certainly can't hurt to* try* the pre-payment option to lock people into
the waiting list, but I would be surprised if people bite for all of the
same reasons you describe. If I'm running a team and need space for them,
putting money down on an office I can't have until some unknown point in
the future isn't a compelling offer, even when compared to a lesser
offering that I can use now.

One thing we *have* done with larger teams is introducing a longer
cancellation period in order to get their deposit back. Basically once a
team is >3, they represent a larger $$ liability for us and increased
difficulty/stress in replacing that income with new members.

With larger groups we've had success negotiating 60 and 90 day notice
windows that give us more time to fill in the gap naturally rather than
scrambling. It's no different (and at 60 days, even better) than they'd get
with a traditional office lease, and realistically a large group almost
always knows they are moving out at least 60 days in advance.

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On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 10:20 AM  wrote:

> Thanks @angel and @alex. We do that, and it does work great for dedicated
> desks and 1-desk offices. But we've got 60 offices that are 2,4,6 and 8-9
> desks. Typically, our Commons members aren't looking for large spaces, and
> the professionals who are need at least some private, dedicated space -
> joining as Commons members doesn't work for them.
>
> We've been adding these folks to waitlists by office size (and keeping in
> touch, inviting them to events, etc). Several lists were 20+ deep. This
> seemed to be a great indicator of interest and gave us confidence that we'd
> be able to refill offices if needed. Pretty quickly, that proved
> misleading: when offices open, we find ourselves scrambling through long
> lists; giving each person 48 hours to confirm can easily take a full month
> to find our new member - a very nerve-wracking thing when it's a bigger
> office.
>
> We're considering a fee for non-members to be on a waitlist. If they take
> the office,it would go towards their membership.
>
> Not sure how much that'll help...interested parties may have found other
> space in the interim... but we thought we'd try and wondered if anyone had
> any similar experience.
>
> Thanks!!
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Re: [Coworking] Waitlist Policy?

[pmeyernola]

Thanks @angel and @alex. We do that, and it does work great for dedicated desks 
and 1-desk offices. But we've got 60 offices that are 2,4,6 and 8-9 desks. 
Typically, our Commons members aren't looking for large spaces, and the 
professionals who are need at least some private, dedicated space - joining as 
Commons members doesn't work for them. 

We've been adding these folks to waitlists by office size (and keeping in 
touch, inviting them to events, etc). Several lists were 20+ deep. This seemed 
to be a great indicator of interest and gave us confidence that we'd be able to 
refill offices if needed. Pretty quickly, that proved misleading: when offices 
open, we find ourselves scrambling through long lists; giving each person 48 
hours to confirm can easily take a full month to find our new member - a very 
nerve-wracking thing when it's a bigger office. 

We're considering a fee for non-members to be on a waitlist. If they take the 
office,it would go towards their membership. 

Not sure how much that'll help...interested parties may have found other space 
in the interim... but we thought we'd try and wondered if anyone had any 
similar experience. 

Thanks!!

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[Coworking] Do you run a coworking space of roughly 700 m² = 7535 ft²

[AdventureUwe]

Dear fellow coworkers, 

Do you have experience in running a coworking space in the size of around 
700 m² = 7535 ft² ?

I am interested in real numbers and experience of running such a space with 
that size.

- How long do you run the space and what is your function? 
- How many people can fit in a coworking space of roughly an area of 7535 
ft²? 
 and can you divide numbers in following groups: *Number of singe 
members*:   AND *Number of teams*:
- From your clients, what is the average team-size (e.g. a group of 
members, startup, space users) and how much space do they get in m² or ft² ?
- How big is the team to run and manage the space and what are their 
functions?
- When did you hit the ROI?

It really means a lot to me to get an idea of a space of that size!

Thanks, 
Uwe

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Re: [Coworking] Coaching subscription

[Will Bennis, Locus Workspace]

Hi Trey,

I really LOVED this idea and still do love it. But after having tried it 
and thought about it, I have really mixed feelings about it and decided to 
stop providing/promoting coaching services in our own coworking space:

*The good side: *

   - Obviously, it looks great on a website as some kind of added value for 
   the coworking space and it may help bring in new members
   - More importantly, I think many / most freelancers could really use a 
   good coach, given the many challenges of working on one's own where an 
   outside perspective can really make a difference. 

*The bad side:*

   - Conflicts of interest: We have have had a LOT of members who are 
   coaches. You may well alienate potential or existing member coaches who 
   aren't so happy to be competing with their coworking space for clients.
   - Recreating the corporate/evaluative work environment many of your 
   members left traditional 9-5 jobs to escape: If your coach(es) are members, 
   you you have to pick and choose among them to evaluate the quality of their 
   work and endorse one over the other. It can be great if you do it well, but 
   you may well alienate wonderful members who turn out not to be wonderful 
   employees. I think there's a reason so many coworking spaces have had the 
   idea of becoming a boutique project management company using their members 
   as their team, but none that I know of have actually succeeded.
   - It's hard enough to run a good coworking space if that's your only 
   focus: keep in mind that running a good coaching business won't be a piece 
   of cake. If you don't have great coaches doing great work, it will affect 
   your reputation as a coworking space and either way you'll be giving 
   yourself a lot of extra work.
   - Even if you're intentions are great, the moment you start adding 
   "upsale" services, many people will be suspicious of them and even less 
   likely to use them than if they were offered by someone outside the 
   coworking space (even if they really like you and the space): there's a 
   risk of moving your environment from more "community/trust" oriented to 
   more "business transaction" oriented. This isn't necessarily a bad thing 
   given how hard it is to run a profitable coworking space, but it's 
   something to keep in mind.
   - Most importantly: Despite my conviction that location-independent 
   knowledge workers are great candidates for coaching, we offered free 
   one-hour coaching sessions with no long term commitment and from coaches I 
   really liked, *we had ZERO interest *after offering and promoting the 
   service for two years (and with NO upsale or personal benefit that might 
   have made folks suspicious of motives). Obviously spaces and members and 
   markets are different, and maybe what didn't work for us will work for you, 
   but my sense here in Prague is that coaching generally isn't something most 
   freelancers want when it comes to the reality of committing time and money. 
   As Tony suggested, I would make sure you have some real demand for this 
   before even considering making the personal investment in it. Unless you're 
   just doing it for the window dressing.

My 2 cents.

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>
> Hey Trey, 
>
> Welcome! I think offering coaching services alongside membership is a 
> great idea that more spaces should be looking into.
>
> Have you considered making it an option that a member can upgrade to, like 
> a personal trainer at a gym? 
>
> As for determining whether there's a market—do you know people personally 
> who are potential customers? Can you ask them what they think?
>
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> On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 11:40 AM > 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello Everyone! 
>> I am working on my coworking concept, and want to offer coaching 
>> services.  This will add overhead to the basic membership.  I think it 
>> could add value to the community, but not sure if my niche client, 
>> "entrepreneur", will be able to afford this type of service.  I want to 
>> build a coworking space that is focused on growing the individuals in the 
>> community, not just another corporate office space for rent.  My question 
>> is, has anyone offered coaching services before, and who would be the 
>> targeted client?   Freelancer? Startups?  Entrepreneurs?  Although I love 
>> this idea, I fear I will have no market for it.  Thoughts? Thanks. Trey 
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