[Coworking] Re: partnership agreement (BEAHIVE is expanding)

[Patricia Spicuzza]

On Wednesday, July 5, 2017 at 2:45:08 AM UTC-4, Katrina wrote:
>
> Hello Scott, 
>
>  I was wondering if you ever found an answer to this. I am currently in 
> the same situation you were in 2009 and I will be presenting my partnership 
> proposal to a building owner late next week, I was wondering if you have 
> any advice or can provide an example of your partnership agreement for me 
> to review to assist me in drafting my proposal? I have reached out to a few 
> groups and have gotten a few suggestion but I would love to see  and 
> example of what has actually worked out to be a successful partnership. 
>
> Thanks for your time in advance and any information you can provide would 
> help tremendously!
>
> On Friday, October 2, 2009 at 10:17:34 AM UTC-7, Scott Tillitt / BEAHIVE 
> wrote:
>>
>> Esteemed coworking colleagues... need some advice.
>>
>> I think I've hinted in a previous post that we might be expanding up the 
>> river. So we indeed are, partnering with Luminary Publishing — which 
>> publishes a popular Hudson Valley arts/culture/spirit glossy magazine 
>> called *Chronogram —* to populate another BEAHIVE in Kingston, the third 
>> oldest city in New York and our first state capital.
>>
>> This partnership will grow our community and our impact, helping us to 
>> realize our larger vision. *Chronogram* nourishes and supports the 
>> creative and cultural life of the Hudson Valley — much as we've been 
>> contributing to the creative, cultural and professional life of Beacon.
>>
>> We need to draft an agreement, and I'm looking for some examples and also 
>> just some things to consider.
>>
>> Basically, they're providing the space and their name and network and I'm 
>> providing the name and model and ongoing support and planning (events, 
>> programs, etc.). We're both working to get it up and running and then we'll 
>> both manage it. Need to figure out the details of that and how to split up 
>> expenses and revenues beyond the monthly space rental.
>>
>> Anyone have an agreement to share confidentially? Or just some general 
>> thoughts?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> scott.
>>
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>
Katrina,  
Did you have any luck with your partnership agreement?  That is what I am 
up to these days and would love your advice. 

Thanks,
Patti 

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[Coworking] Re: Introduction (researcher who might sign up for co-working in orlando or detroit)

[Patricia Spicuzza]

There are coworking spaces well within 100 miles, James.  Start with 
Orlando and work your way north to Daytona.  I believe you will find some 
independent ones along the coast, too. 

On Tuesday, July 25, 2017 at 2:57:54 PM UTC-4, James Patrick wrote:
>
> What did you learn about coworking scene in Orlando?  Working on building 
> out a coworking space in Daytona. Not finding existing facilities even 100 
> miles away to offer help or insights. 
>
>
> On Friday, April 14, 2017 at 1:29:20 PM UTC-4, Patricia Spicuzza wrote:
>>
>> Hello from Orlando!  :-)
>>
>> If you would like to talk more about the particular scene here, please 
>> let me know.  I've been checking them out myself!
>>
>> Have a nice Easter weekend, friends!
>>
>> Patti 
>>
>> On Wednesday, April 12, 2017 at 8:19:38 PM UTC-4, Christopher Gallagher 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello All, 
>>>
>>> My name is Christopher, and I'm in a PhD program that researches 
>>> Organizational Psycholgy, which for us is basically the breadth of work 
>>> issues. We're interested in the changing nature of work, and I have plenty 
>>> of questions about how coworking spaces function. 
>>>
>>> I've learned a lot reading the deskmag surveys, but these are hints 
>>> about possible psychology projects, rather than firm information. 
>>>
>>> I would love to use as many active co-workers as participants (there 
>>> would be a potential reward for participation), but for now I just have 
>>> some basic questions. 
>>>
>>> If I don't need to collaborate with anyone in particular, why wouldn't I 
>>> go to work from a library? 
>>>
>>

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[Coworking] Shared Space Agreements

[Patricia Spicuzza]

Has anyone created a partnership agreement for sharing a space with a 
property owner?  I have found a business owner who will let us share her 
business' space in return for a percentage of what the coworking space 
brings in through fees, etc.  

Has anyone done this?  Do you have any advice or comments?

I have been asked to draw up a list of impacts her business can anticipate 
(and I suppose we would discuss how to share expenses).  Suggestions here, 
in case I am forgetting anything?

-Increased use of facility, utilities
-increased use of copier, paper & ink
-increased use of kitchen & kitchen supplies

-scheduling shared space of meeting rooms of all size
-scheduling events around her business' peak hours

-give percentage of what memberships and other revenue streams bring in to 
business owner
-give percentage of event/venue rental through coworking entity to business 
owner

Anything else you can think of?

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[Coworking] Re: Coworking in a shopping mall?

[Patricia Spicuzza]

Will, Can you share what type of space you went to instead?  Or did you not 
go into opening a space?

On Friday, March 24, 2017 at 2:30:23 PM UTC-4, Will Bennis, Locus Workspace 
wrote:
>
> I didn't end up doing it, so can't report anything useful. :)
>
> On Friday, March 24, 2017 at 6:35:29 PM UTC+1, Patricia Spicuzza wrote:
>>
>> Hey Will, 
>> I was just looking for an update on this, particularly in light of the 
>> retail apocalypse happening now.  
>>
>> What's the word?
>>
>> Patricia 
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 22, 2014 at 6:15:05 AM UTC-4, Will Bennis, Locus 
>> Workspace wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Recently a shopping mall realtor approached me about opening a coworking 
>>> space in their closed gaming zone/internet cafe. I'd love to hear opinions 
>>> about this, pros and cons. Before you completely ignore this post as coming 
>>> from someone who is clearly not from the same coworking planet, here is why 
>>> I'm even considering it:
>>>
>>> (1) *With respect to the fact that mall real estate goes for a premium: 
>>> *At least where I am, a lot of shopping malls are trying to build in 
>>> community/space quality features that make going to the mall (which lets 
>>> face it, most people in urban areas sometimes do) a more human experience: 
>>> space-taking areas like open art galleries, free indoor playgrounds, 
>>> exhibition space, gardens, etc. These spaces add value/traffic to the mall 
>>> as a whole, making the rentable space more valuable. This means that the 
>>> mall owner may be willing to partially fund a coworking space if it adds 
>>> value to the mall as a whole. 
>>>  
>>> (2) *With regard to the importance of community and quality of the work 
>>> environment: *Sure, malls are horrific. But they're also a reality. 
>>> Wouldn't creating coworking spaces in the horrific reality of a shopping 
>>> mall make malls a little less horrific? To the extent you could contribute 
>>> to the reinvention of malls as more human, community-focused spaces, 
>>> wouldn't it be a good thing to promote the development of a coworking space 
>>> in a mall?
>>>
>>> (3) *With respect to the objection that it wouldn't be sustainable; the 
>>> kind of people drawn to coworking would not want to do it in a mall: *The 
>>> malls where I am right now have many fast food restaurants (McDonalds, KFC, 
>>> etc.) with free bad wifi and people working away on their laptops or in 
>>> business meetings, or higher end cafes where laptop workers aren't as 
>>> welcome and places to work aren't comfortable or well suited for meaningful 
>>> work or quality meetings. I would guess many of the people who work in the 
>>> area or who are just there while their partners are shopping or their kids 
>>> are at the movies would love a more human space to work. Yes, they're not 
>>> the people traditionally drawn to coworking, but is there room for 
>>> something in between?
>>>
>>> My big question I guess is whether there would be a way to do this that 
>>> would create more than the equivalent of a hotel "business center" or an 
>>> internet cafe? Would there value or demand for a community-focused 
>>> workspace in a mall? 
>>>
>>> Clearly this couldn't be an ideal community-focused and community-driven 
>>> coworking space. But is there room for something between the ideal and the 
>>> "business center" in a shopping mall (or airport or highway 
>>> gas-station/restaurant off-ramp for that matter)? Something that would help 
>>> build the sense of community and humanity in these largely community-less 
>>> spaces? Could it bear the *coworking *name? 
>>>
>>> I'd love to hear your thoughts on this. 
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Will
>>>
>>

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[Coworking] Re: Introduction (researcher who might sign up for co-working in orlando or detroit)

[Patricia Spicuzza]

Hello from Orlando!  :-)

If you would like to talk more about the particular scene here, please let 
me know.  I've been checking them out myself!

Have a nice Easter weekend, friends!

Patti 

On Wednesday, April 12, 2017 at 8:19:38 PM UTC-4, Christopher Gallagher 
wrote:
>
> Hello All, 
>
> My name is Christopher, and I'm in a PhD program that researches 
> Organizational Psycholgy, which for us is basically the breadth of work 
> issues. We're interested in the changing nature of work, and I have plenty 
> of questions about how coworking spaces function. 
>
> I've learned a lot reading the deskmag surveys, but these are hints about 
> possible psychology projects, rather than firm information. 
>
> I would love to use as many active co-workers as participants (there would 
> be a potential reward for participation), but for now I just have some 
> basic questions. 
>
> If I don't need to collaborate with anyone in particular, why wouldn't I 
> go to work from a library? 
>

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[Coworking] Re: Coworking in a shopping mall?

[Patricia Spicuzza]

Hey Will, 
I was just looking for an update on this, particularly in light of the 
retail apocalypse happening now.  

What's the word?

Patricia 

On Wednesday, October 22, 2014 at 6:15:05 AM UTC-4, Will Bennis, Locus 
Workspace wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> Recently a shopping mall realtor approached me about opening a coworking 
> space in their closed gaming zone/internet cafe. I'd love to hear opinions 
> about this, pros and cons. Before you completely ignore this post as coming 
> from someone who is clearly not from the same coworking planet, here is why 
> I'm even considering it:
>
> (1) *With respect to the fact that mall real estate goes for a premium: *At 
> least where I am, a lot of shopping malls are trying to build in 
> community/space quality features that make going to the mall (which lets 
> face it, most people in urban areas sometimes do) a more human experience: 
> space-taking areas like open art galleries, free indoor playgrounds, 
> exhibition space, gardens, etc. These spaces add value/traffic to the mall 
> as a whole, making the rentable space more valuable. This means that the 
> mall owner may be willing to partially fund a coworking space if it adds 
> value to the mall as a whole. 
>  
> (2) *With regard to the importance of community and quality of the work 
> environment: *Sure, malls are horrific. But they're also a reality. 
> Wouldn't creating coworking spaces in the horrific reality of a shopping 
> mall make malls a little less horrific? To the extent you could contribute 
> to the reinvention of malls as more human, community-focused spaces, 
> wouldn't it be a good thing to promote the development of a coworking space 
> in a mall?
>
> (3) *With respect to the objection that it wouldn't be sustainable; the 
> kind of people drawn to coworking would not want to do it in a mall: *The 
> malls where I am right now have many fast food restaurants (McDonalds, KFC, 
> etc.) with free bad wifi and people working away on their laptops or in 
> business meetings, or higher end cafes where laptop workers aren't as 
> welcome and places to work aren't comfortable or well suited for meaningful 
> work or quality meetings. I would guess many of the people who work in the 
> area or who are just there while their partners are shopping or their kids 
> are at the movies would love a more human space to work. Yes, they're not 
> the people traditionally drawn to coworking, but is there room for 
> something in between?
>
> My big question I guess is whether there would be a way to do this that 
> would create more than the equivalent of a hotel "business center" or an 
> internet cafe? Would there value or demand for a community-focused 
> workspace in a mall? 
>
> Clearly this couldn't be an ideal community-focused and community-driven 
> coworking space. But is there room for something between the ideal and the 
> "business center" in a shopping mall (or airport or highway 
> gas-station/restaurant off-ramp for that matter)? Something that would help 
> build the sense of community and humanity in these largely community-less 
> spaces? Could it bear the *coworking *name? 
>
> I'd love to hear your thoughts on this. 
>
> Best,
> Will
>

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