Re: [Coworking] Water boiler recommendations
Andy, would the cheaper model shown in related items work for you? http://www.amazon.com/BUNN-OHW-Water-Dispenser-Pourover/dp/B000FAMSQO/ref=pd_sim_sbs_k_2?ie=UTF8refRID=158ZJTAVX2EHG413K5M7 On April 4, 2014 at 10:39 AM Andy Soell aso...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Alex—I saw that post a while back, but I think I would have a mutiny on my hands if I even suggested we switch away from French press. Im really looking for something that just handles the boiling water. Did a little more searching and found this one from Bunnbut was a little sticker shocked. I guess thats the difference between consumer and professional level equipment, though. On Friday, April 4, 2014 11:00:41 AM UTC-4, Alex Hillman wrote: Yep, our coffee maker (and water cooler) are both wired into a water line. More here: http://www.quora.com/Coworking/Whats-the-best-way-of-providing-coffee-in-my-new-coworking-space We rent a higher-end water cooler from a local company (they do the maintenance for us), but you can get more basic ones on Amazon, just search for bottle-less water coolers. Most of them have hot water built in, too. -Alex -- /ah indyhall.org coworking in philadelphia On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 10:41 AM, Andy Soell aso...@gmail.com wrote: Overall Im really loving how everyone in our community pitches in on things like cleaning up, washing dishes, making coffee, etc. but theres one thing that everyone forgets and it DRIVES ME CRAZY. We have a hot water potthat we use to keep 3 liters of water ready to go for tea or coffee at a moments notice, and its ALWAYS empty. Im as much to blame as anyone else in our community, but it left me wondering if something like this exists that includes hardware to connect directly into the waterline so it automatically keeps filled. Has anyone come across something like that? Andy Soell The Salt Mines http://saltmines.us -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+...@googlegroups.com.For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. Randall (Randy) Arnold Developer and Enthusiast Advocate http://texrat.net +18177396806 -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [Coworking] Water boiler recommendations
Oops, sorry, didnt notice that feature missing. Would a point-of-use water heater do the trick? http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=""> On April 4, 2014 at 11:10 AM aso...@gmail.com wrote: It doesn’t look like it does a direct water-line hookup, which is kind of the point. This is probably just a situation where we’ll have to either wait and try to find something second-hand or just bite the bullet and do it right. On Apr 4, 2014, at 12:07 PM, Randall G. Arnold randall.arn...@texrat.net wrote: Andy, would the cheaper model shown in related items work for you? http://www.amazon.com/BUNN-OHW-Water-Dispenser-Pourover/dp/B000FAMSQO/ref=pd_sim_sbs_k_2?ie=UTF8refRID=158ZJTAVX2EHG413K5M7 On April 4, 2014 at 10:39 AM Andy Soell aso...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Alex—I saw that post a while back, but I think I would have a mutiny on my hands if I even suggested we switch away from French press. Im really looking for something that just handles the boiling water. Did a little more searching and found this one from Bunnbut was a little sticker shocked. I guess thats the difference between consumer and professional level equipment, though. On Friday, April 4, 2014 11:00:41 AM UTC-4, Alex Hillman wrote: Yep, our coffee maker (and water cooler) are both wired into a water line. More here: http://www.quora.com/Coworking/Whats-the-best-way-of-providing-coffee-in-my-new-coworking-space We rent a higher-end water cooler from a local company (they do the maintenance for us), but you can get more basic ones on Amazon, just search for bottle-less water coolers. Most of them have hot water built in, too. -Alex -- /ah indyhall.org coworking in philadelphia On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 10:41 AM, Andy Soell aso...@gmail.com wrote: Overall Im really loving how everyone in our community pitches in on things like cleaning up, washing dishes, making coffee, etc. but theres one thing that everyone forgets and it DRIVES ME CRAZY. We have a hot water potthat we use to keep 3 liters of water ready to go for tea or coffee at a moments notice, and its ALWAYS empty. Im as much to blame as anyone else in our community, but it left me wondering if something like this exists that includes hardware to connect directly into the waterline so it automatically keeps filled. Has anyone come across something like that? Andy Soell The Salt Mines http://saltmines.us -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+...@googlegroups.com.For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. Randall (Randy) Arnold Developer and Enthusiast Advocate http://texrat.net +18177396806 -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email
Re: [Coworking] Water boiler recommendations
There are some that can get you the heat you need, but may come with higher cost than typical home appliances... as with the other options. On April 4, 2014 at 11:38 AM aso...@gmail.com wrote: I don’t know much about these, but it seems unlikely to me that they get water to the temperature that would be needed for coffee—I think they’re designed more as replacements for hot water tanks in homes to get water hot enough for bathing and washing dishes. Good thinking outside-the-box, though! On Apr 4, 2014, at 12:21 PM, Randall G. Arnold randall.arn...@texrat.net wrote: Oops, sorry, didnt notice that feature missing. Would a point-of-use water heater do the trick? http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=""> On April 4, 2014 at 11:10 AM aso...@gmail.com wrote: It doesn’t look like it does a direct water-line hookup, which is kind of the point. This is probably just a situation where we’ll have to either wait and try to find something second-hand or just bite the bullet and do it right. On Apr 4, 2014, at 12:07 PM, Randall G. Arnold randall.arn...@texrat.net wrote: Andy, would the cheaper model shown in related items work for you? http://www.amazon.com/BUNN-OHW-Water-Dispenser-Pourover/dp/B000FAMSQO/ref=pd_sim_sbs_k_2?ie=UTF8refRID=158ZJTAVX2EHG413K5M7 On April 4, 2014 at 10:39 AM Andy Soell aso...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Alex—I saw that post a while back, but I think I would have a mutiny on my hands if I even suggested we switch away from French press. Im really looking for something that just handles the boiling water. Did a little more searching and found this one from Bunnbut was a little sticker shocked. I guess thats the difference between consumer and professional level equipment, though. On Friday, April 4, 2014 11:00:41 AM UTC-4, Alex Hillman wrote: Yep, our coffee maker (and water cooler) are both wired into a water line. More here: http://www.quora.com/Coworking/Whats-the-best-way-of-providing-coffee-in-my-new-coworking-space We rent a higher-end water cooler from a local company (they do the maintenance for us), but you can get more basic ones on Amazon, just search for bottle-less water coolers. Most of them have hot water built in, too. -Alex -- /ah indyhall.org coworking in philadelphia On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 10:41 AM, Andy Soell aso...@gmail.com wrote: Overall Im really loving how everyone in our community pitches in on things like cleaning up, washing dishes, making coffee, etc. but theres one thing that everyone forgets and it DRIVES ME CRAZY. We have a hot water potthat we use to keep 3 liters of water ready to go for tea or coffee at a moments notice, and its ALWAYS empty. Im as much to blame as anyone else in our community, but it left me wondering if something like this exists that includes hardware to connect directly into the waterline so it automatically keeps filled. Has anyone come across something like that? Andy Soell The Salt Mines http:/
Re: [Coworking] Re: Open Source Business Plan for Coworking Space
Perfect timing, too. Our makerspace development efforts could benefit from lessons learned! Many thanks, James. Randy Arnold Tarrant Makers http://tarrantmakers.org On March 12, 2014 at 3:07 PM Alex Hillman dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com wrote: James, this is really cool and has some great suggestions/models in it. Thanks for sharing! -- /ah indyhall.org coworking in philadelphia On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 4:05 PM, Luca Ruggeri luca.rugg...@gmail.com wrote: Thank to you!! Ill feedback you as soon as i can, regards Luca On 12 March 2014 20:55, James Carlson james.carl...@gmail.com wrote: Feel free to take a look at the Make a Space Kit, which we have been developing for several years which incorporates best practices from a variety of different space outcomes-- coworking, maker space, fab lab, project economy, etc. and leads through the formation and life cycle as a project plan. There are related templates for budget and cost structures. http://atrium.schoolfactory.org/spacekit/home Would love to know feedback on this! Thanks! James Carlson 414-215-0215 Director, School Factory CEO, Bucket Brigade On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Luca Ruggeri luca.rugg...@gmail.com=mailto:luca.rugg...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry ive been busy for a while!! Im starting working on a bp for a non profit coworking. The target is set to aggregate professionals belonging to a Board, like engineers, architects, lawyers, etc. Ill keep you up to date, any hint and suggestion is warmly welcome since ive got no idea on how to start ;) first problem, how to lower down the cost for designing the spaces. Im working on a module of about 500 square meters, thinking on how to modularize them to scale up to bigger surfaces once started. thanks in advance, Luca On Thursday, February 20, 2014 9:44:15 PM UTC+1, Jacob Sayles wrote: Luca, There hasnt been much movement on the open source coworking business plan but its an idea Id love to see get some traction! Im happy to talk with you more about it and what it is you are looking to build. Jacob --- Office Nomads - Individuality without Isolation http://www.officenomads.com - (206) 323-6500 On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 3:23 AM, Luca Ruggeri luca.r...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, great initiative! Im starting approaching to a coworking business planning activity, i would be glad to collaborate! And Im also joining ouiShare community in Italy, have a nice day Luca Il giorno luned 25 novembre 2013 23:50:10 UTC+1, Kevin Ilardi ha scritto: Dear all, I am trying to understand and to study the Business Model of Coworking Space within a collaborative thesis. I am reading some books, but Id like your opinion, because you are
Re: [Coworking] It's all in a name. Or is it?
Thanks Alex, and I agree: I dont think Job has much to sweat. To answer one of your questions Job: as I noted, many disagreed with me at first regarding naming, mission, etc. And when it finally dawned on our evolving Board of Directors that we did need to redefine ourselves as Alex describes, there were a few who were disgruntled at the development and we lost some board members. So I misspoke when I said everyone realized the need. But heres the thing: dont worry about naysayers, or people who cant get on board with your vision. Theyre always going to exist. You have to lead something youre passionate about, and that passion is infectious. As long as youre able to clearly sum up WHAT your vision is and WHY it developed into what it is and WHOM you are seeking to serve, people will break your doors down to get involved. Thats what were seeing. It also helps to have interesting projects or goals; people will cheerfully volunteer their time if youve identified what THEY are passionate about, and those things fit into your mission. Focus on the community members who are drawn to your vision (or at least want to understand). As for those who dont understand or complain, a little listening will help you determine who WANTS to understand vs the usual concern trolls. ;) Randy Tarrant Makers On February 20, 2014 at 1:10 PM Alex Hillman dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com wrote: There is also the distinct possibility I am overthinking this. This. :) If you had hundreds of people who knew about what you were doing and you suddenly changed the name, this mightbe a bigger deal. But as youve said, you dont, so I think youre putting the cart before the horse, big time. Involving the community in the naming is great, though I wouldnt let it hold you back. More general advice around naming: it sounds like youre trying to name the thing youre doing. Coworking, cranking, jelly-ing, etc. To riff on Randalls post, which I think is a GREAT illustration, notice that their new name doesnt describe what they do but who they are. It tells you something about the people and what they care about, rather than naming a specific effort. Thats what makes a good name: when it describes who youll find there. Those people may do a variety of things, from coworking to teaching to socializing to who the hell knows but the things they have in common wont change dramatically. So: 1) Stop worrying about a name change. I assure you that more people wont notice than will. People are just as concerned about in their lives as you are about your name...and you can be 100% sure that they care more about their problems than yours. ;) 2) If youre gonna rename, work towards a name that describes the people instead of what they do. -Alex -- /ah indyhall.org coworking in philadelphia On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 1:49 PM, Job Sonnentag j...@alaskazone.com wrote: Glad to hear that, Randy. My hope, other than to get help, was to highlight an issue others might have or are having to face. Congrats on your growing community by the way! What was the effect when you changed your organizations name? Both within the group and outside? It sounds like you already had a decent following at the time you made that decision. One of the things I also realized in creating the name on my own, is that I had potentially missed out on a great opportunity for community involvement. Had I waited, the community could have helped come up with the name and as a result felt a stronger connection with it. My only issue with this is how do I go about that now that I have a name, and one that I feel is not suitable to continue with? The only viable solution I can think of for a scenario where the community-to-be helps pick is one where I keep the current name and wait until said community grows before we change it. I just dont want to rename it now, on my own, only to be in this same situation another 9 months from now. I could do something generic for the time being - E.g. Alaska Jelly Group - and wait for the community. Though I feel changing it (generic name) and then changing it again (community derived name) will have negative side effects.
Re: [Coworking] It's all in a name. Or is it?
Job, if it helps, heres what we have so farfor our organization after some brainstorming workshops: Overall About Us: http://www.tarrantmakers.org/about-us/ Promotions Committee: http://www.tarrantmakers.org/about-us/leadership/committees/promotion/ Education Committee: http://www.tarrantmakers.org/about-us/leadership/committees/education/ (committees need to plug into and support the organization goals) Now if I can just get the other committees to define themselves... Randy Tarrant Makers On February 20, 2014 at 6:36 PM Job Sonnentag j...@alaskazone.com wrote: Thanks for the reality check, Guys! Alex, the naming advice is MUCH appreciated! Randy, you are totally right; thanks for the reminder! I think properly expressing the what, why and whom is something I need to work on. On Thursday, February 20, 2014 11:00:06 AM UTC-9, Texrat wrote: Thanks Alex, and I agree: I dont think Job has much to sweat. To answer one of your questions Job: as I noted, many disagreed with me at first regarding naming, mission, etc. And when it finally dawned on our evolving Board of Directors that we did need to redefine ourselves as Alex describes, there were a few who were disgruntled at the development and we lost some board members. So I misspoke when I said everyone realized the need. But heres the thing: dont worry about naysayers, or people who cant get on board with your vision. Theyre always going to exist. You have to lead something youre passionate about, and that passion is infectious. As long as youre able to clearly sum up WHAT your vision is and WHY it developed into what it is and WHOM you are seeking to serve, people will break your doors down to get involved. Thats what were seeing. It also helps to have interesting projects or goals; people will cheerfully volunteer their time if youve identified what THEY are passionate about, and those things fit into your mission. Focus on the community members who are drawn to your vision (or at least want to understand). As for those who dont understand or complain, a little listening will help you determine who WANTS to understand vs the usual concern trolls. ;) Randy Tarrant Makers On February 20, 2014 at 1:10 PM Alex Hillman dangerous...@gmail.com wrote: There is also the distinct possibility I am overthinking this. This. :) If you had hundreds of people who knew about what you were doing and you suddenly changed the name, this mightbe a bigger deal. But as youve said, you dont, so I think youre putting the cart before the horse, big time. Involving the community in the naming is great, though I wouldnt let it hold you back. More general advice around naming: it sounds like youre trying to name the thing youre doing. Coworking, cranking, jelly-ing, etc. To riff on Randalls post, which I think is a GREAT illustration, notice that their new name doesnt describe what they do but who they are. It tells you something about the people and what they care about, rather than naming a specific effort. Thats what makes a good name: when it describes who youll find there. Those people may do a variety of things, from coworking to teaching to socializing to who the hell knows but the things they have in common wont change dramatically. So: 1) Stop worrying about a name change. I assure you that more people wont notice than will. People are just as concerned about in their lives as you are about your name...and you can be 100% sure that they care more about their problems than yours. ;) 2) If youre gonna rename, work towards a name that describes the people instead of what they do. -Alex --
Re: [Coworking] It's all in a name. Or is it?
Its an interesting topic to me, Job, especially since it hits home. Over a year ago I started to pull together a local maker community in my area. After many coffee shop meetups, severalpeople settled into a collection of leaders. At initial meetings that subject of identity came up, and I had thoughts similar to yours: I felt we needed to build community first, then start a physical makerspace once we had an organization established. I also believed our org name should identify the community first, space(s) second. I was outvoted at first and we came to be Fort Worth Makerspace. Over time, as our purpose evolved more to favor community education powered by partnerships, everyone realized we wouldnt be just one physical space ultimately but many. In fact we are working on two now, partnering with a library and university respectively. And so everyone else changed their mind to abstract the organization from physical spaces-- our organization became Tarrant Makers, named after our county to identify our physical reach. So I can understand your dilemma. Your name, brand, identity-- whatever you call it, it creates an image in the minds of your community, customers, partners and sponsors. You have to think deep about who and what you are, what needs you intend to fill going forward, how you wish to be perceived. It sounds like you already have a good idea which way youre going to go. Hope my rambling helped. Randy Tarrant Makers On February 20, 2014 at 12:06 AM Job Sonnentag j...@alaskazone.com wrote: About a year ago I decided to start a coworking space here in Alaska. I figured it needed a name, so that it could grow and be referenced. That name is CrankSpace. As luck would have it, one of the first things I realized, was that I actually didnt want to start a space, I wanted to build a community. And eventually, when our community needed it, we would find a location to house it. So a year has gone by and we have a name which presumes we have the one thing we actually dont - space - and, I feel, vocalizes a value I dont see in that one thing. At least not direct value. My question is this: Does it matter? I would love for it to be a community decision, but despite being at it for almost a year, we dont have much of an active one yet. I feel Im losing connection with the name because it promotes values I dont believe in and fear it having a negative impact. My fear in changing it is loss in recognition, perceived flakiness or lack of viability. Not sure what to do with this one. TL:DR - I feel our name doesnt fit our goals anymore. Does it matter? Job -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. Randall (Randy) Arnold Developer and Enthusiast Advocate http://texrat.net +18177396806 -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [Coworking] Solution for lots of people streaming music
Im sure every shared space runs into bandwidth hogs. Ultimately you need to craft a usage policy of some sort, trying to find balance between fun/work. Its only natural that youll identify some forbidden uses (porn, et al) if not immediately then over time as the need develops. I would suggest to music streamers that they should use their mobile plans for that, and that the space bandwidth is for productivity. Blocking certain services outright, as corporate environs tend to, can get sticky but you may have no choice if users insist on hogging bandwidth for entertainment purposes and it impacts those trying to actually get work done. You can also set quotas per IP address, from your router, and let each user determine how they want to use that allocation. Randy Tarrant Makers On February 17, 2014 at 11:27 AM Angel Kwiatkowski fccowork...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like about everyone is streaming music while at Cohere so its putting a strain on our bandwidth. Has your space had this issue and what are some solutions? Angel -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. Randall (Randy) Arnold Developer and Enthusiast Advocate http://texrat.net +18177396806 -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [Coworking] Solution for lots of people streaming music
Youre right Alex, and I definitely should have raised the same point you raised about video vs audio. One thing Ive noticed though is that *some* start these ventures on a shoestring and throttle themselves at the incoming service. In such cases I can see managers being concerned about loads. Your point about monitoring overall and individual usage is right on and important for those cases. I would recommend that space starters/managers invest in the fastest connection they can afford. Its not directly relevant but even in my own home bandwidth became an issue once every member of the household had a laptop and smartphone Plus Xbox, Roku, etc), and I had Verizon FIOS with 25 mb download. Going to 50 mb plan and a wireless N router led to a definite improvement. Randy Tarrant Makers On February 17, 2014 at 12:00 PM Alex Hillman dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com wrote: Quotas and bandwidth limiters are tricky to implement correctly, and in my experience end up generating even more issues than they solve. Music streaming itself is usuallypretty low-impact - even at higher quality streams like 192kbps, it takes a LOT of streams to really add up to something noticeable. Video streams, on the other hand, can put a dent in bandwidth really quickly. Though weve definitely had issues with our internet, weve never actually run into a situation where we ran out of bandwidth. Every bandwidth issue weve had actually ended up not being a bandwidth issue at all, but some sort of network behavior that triggered a throttle upstream with our internet provider. Burst bandwidth speeds would stay normal, but ping times would go WAY up, making everything feel slow (which is as bad as it actually being slow). Weve actually had more issues with designers who sync big PSDs to Dropbox all day than we have with ANY entertainment media. And thats a tough one, because people use Dropbox to be productive. Two recommendations: 1) theres a mac app called PeakHour (available in the app store) that connects to many popular routers and lets you monitor inbound/outbound bandwidth. It sits in the menu bar and lets you easily notice when theres heavy traffic usage. See if PeakHour graphs seem to match the slowdowns that youre noticing, which will be easier b/c the graph is always handy in real time. 2) Depending on your router, you may be able to inspect the bandwidth usage on a per-user basis. If you can figure out who those users are, Id be very surprised if you didnt find that a couple of people are unknowingly doing something thats triggering your network to feel slow. -Alex -- /ah indyhall.org coworking in philadelphia On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 12:44 PM, Randall G. Arnold randall.arn...@texrat.net wrote: Im sure every shared space runs into bandwidth hogs. Ultimately you need to craft a usage policy of some sort, trying to find balance between fun/work. Its only natural that youll identify some forbidden uses (porn, et al) if not immediately then over time as the need develops. I would suggest to music streamers that they should use their mobile plans for that, and that the space bandwidth is for productivity. Blocking certain services outright, as corporate environs tend to, can get sticky but you may have no choice if users insist on hogging bandwidth for entertainment purposes and it impacts those trying to actually get work done. You can also set quotas per IP address, from your router, and let each user determine how they want to use that allocation. Randy Tarrant Makers On February 17, 2014 at 11:27 AM Angel Kwiatkowski fccowork...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like about everyone is streaming music while at Cohere so its putting a strain on our bandwidth. Has your space had this issue and what are some solutions? Angel -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You
Re: [Coworking] Re: Open-plan offices were devised by Satan in the deepest caverns of hell - Oliver Burkeman, The Guardian
I think the cultural change part is dead-on. Since the 80s (at least) the US workforce has been conditioned to work in high-wall cubes, keep your eyes on your work and dont ask questions. I suspect that *some* of the resistance to open workplaces is due to that conditioning. It leaves us exposed, and vulnerable to the vultures who, in more conventional settings, would be looking for which head raised above the wall to chop next. Yeah, a little hyperbolic, but Ill bet at least every creative type here knows what I mean. ;) Anyway, the fact that I saw a mostly-open environment work extremely well at Nokia suggests that its achievable, if people can and will make the change. Randy On November 25, 2013 at 9:19 AM Will Bennis, Locus Workspace wmben...@locusworkspace.com wrote: Such wonderful responses! I particular like the emphasis on the importance of *how* open plan offices are implemented. I like to think about evolutionary processes. One common model in evolutionary theory is the fitness landscape, sort of a distribution of peaks and valleys, with some peaks much higher than others, the height corresponding to fitness according to some criterion (in standard evolutionary accounts differential reproductive success, but it could be anything including work productivity or work satisfaction). Each peak is a local optima, the peak of fitness before the system needs to descend to some less fit state before it can ascend to an even more fit local optima somewhere else on the landscape/distribution. For evolutionary processes there is a big challenge to get from one peak to another. Presumably weve had a lot of time to co-evolve work styles and architectural systems to suit one another using closed-plan offices, leading to a kind of closed-plan office fitness peak. The ideal open-plan office / work style combo might have a much higher peak, but given the time weve had for the cultural evolution of closed-plan offices, maybe we should expect open-plan offices to struggle in comparison for some time, moving down in fitness before they can move back up to a new local optima that might be much fitter overall. I wonder how much this is a standard issue with cultural change from some long-standing tradition. Maybe I shouldnt have shared that out loud :), but a couple of the posts here got me thinking about this. On Thursday, November 21, 2013 10:56:29 AM UTC+1, Will Bennis, Locus Workspace wrote: http://www.theguardian.com/news/2013/nov/18/open-plan-offices-bad-harvard-business-review Putting this out there because I suspect what gets posted is generally filtered toward the coworking positive. While cubicles are the worst, this article is about shortcomings of open-plan offices more generally. Putting aside the obvious fact that even if open-plan offices arent for everyone, theyre certainly preferred by many of us, my existing bias has been that most independent workers would do better (in terms of psychological health as well as productivity and work quality) over the long run in a social work environment than in a private/enclosed office. But articles like this make me wonder if that really is just my own bias. Most of the findings suggested are contrary to what I would expect for independent workers, and I wonder how much the results here may be contingent on working in an organization (where being in an open plan office also corresponds to being lower in the work hierarchy and where many of the people youre working alongside are implicit competitors). Thoughts? Where does this article go wrong (other than suggesting one size fits all)? Does it suggest that ideal coworking space design would work include ample opportunities for more private work and more isolated collaboration? Will -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. Randall (Randy) Arnold Developer and Enthusiast Advocate http://texrat.net +18177396806 -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from
Re: [Coworking] Open-plan offices were devised by Satan in the deepest caverns of hell - Oliver Burkeman, The Guardian
Best environment I ever worked in was *mostly* open... very low partitions. In our case (Nokia service office), people adjusted and noise of any kind was never an issue. We had glass-walled rooms around the perimeter for meetings, etc. Amazingly enough, we had a high number of introverts (including myself) who Ive usually seen complain about this sort of setup-- none did. I thoroughly enjoyed the opportunity to see other human beings instead of being surrounded by a grey maze. As far as noise, in the tech world you get a lot of people talking OVER the high cube walls, so... Randy On November 21, 2013 at 3:56 AM Will Bennis, Locus Workspace wmben...@locusworkspace.com wrote: http://www.theguardian.com/news/2013/nov/18/open-plan-offices-bad-harvard-business-review Putting this out there because I suspect what gets posted is generally filtered toward the coworking positive. While cubicles are the worst, this article is about shortcomings of open-plan offices more generally. Putting aside the obvious fact that even if open-plan offices arent for everyone, theyre certainly preferred by many of us, my existing bias has been that most independent workers would do better (in terms of psychological health as well as productivity and work quality) over the long run in a social work environment than in a private/enclosed office. But articles like this make me wonder if that really is just my own bias. Most of the findings suggested are contrary to what I would expect for independent workers, and I wonder how much the results here may be contingent on working in an organization (where being in an open plan office also corresponds to being lower in the work hierarchy and where many of the people youre working alongside are implicit competitors). Thoughts? Where does this article go wrong (other than suggesting one size fits all)? Does it suggest that ideal coworking space design would work include ample opportunities for more private work and more isolated collaboration? Will -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [Coworking] SBA won't fund coworking??
Which would support the idea of hosting a deli and/or magazine and other related sales activities onsite. Is training considered passive? After hours rentals? Randy On April 25, 2013 at 4:05 PM Jerome Chang jer...@blankspaces.com wrote: An inside source once told me that the SBA doesnt finance operations based on passive income. Gyms with passive membership fees get away with it because they have a lot of trainers, retail sales, etc. So unless you can prove that more than 50% of your business is not passive, youre out of luck. Jerome www.BLANKSPACES.com On Apr 25, 2013, at 1:58 PM, Rena Tom bob...@gmail.com wrote: Help me out, all. I just had a conversation with the NYBDC (New York Business Development Corporation) which works with the SBA on lending. They said the SBA wont fund coworking spaces because its too much like a landlord/subtenant situation which is not in their charter. Have any of you taken a SBA loan for your space? This just sounds wonky to me. Rena -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. Randall (Randy) Arnold Developer and Enthusiast Advocate http://texrat.net +18177396806 -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [Coworking] SBA won't fund coworking??
I just threw magazines out as a quickie, not an end-all-be-all. The point was supplementing operations with related retail; I know of spaces doing this. And I led off with a deli because it was the stronger item, and would be a draw unto itself that could bring in potential customers. Randy On April 25, 2013 at 4:26 PM Jerome Chang jer...@blankspaces.com wrote: Alex, my understanding is that the govt is backing these bank loans. So the govt would want businesses to hire people to run the operations, not a kick-back-and-collect-revenue biz model. Yes you could sell magazines and stuff, but that would have to amount to a lot of revenue...at least equal to the coworking memberships. 1 desk = $500, vs 100 magazines @ $5 each. Multiply by at least 20 desks. Print magazines are dying so... Rena, its possible to convince some loan officer to convince the loan committee and therefore the SBA approval process, but itd be an exception than the rule. Jerome www.BLANKSPACES.com On Apr 25, 2013, at 2:15 PM, Randall G. Arnold randall.arn...@texrat.net wrote: Which would support the idea of hosting a deli and/or magazine and other related sales activities onsite. Is training considered passive? After hours rentals? Randy On April 25, 2013 at 4:05 PM Jerome Chang jer...@blankspaces.com wrote: An inside source once told me that the SBA doesnt finance operations based on passive income. Gyms with passive membership fees get away with it because they have a lot of trainers, retail sales, etc. So unless you can prove that more than 50% of your business is not passive, youre out of luck. Jerome www.BLANKSPACES.com On Apr 25, 2013, at 1:58 PM, Rena Tom bob...@gmail.com wrote: Help me out, all. I just had a conversation with the NYBDC (New York Business Development Corporation) which works with the SBA on lending. They said the SBA wont fund coworking spaces because its too much like a landlord/subtenant situation which is not in their charter. Have any of you taken a SBA loan for your space? This just sounds wonky to me. Rena -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. Randall (Randy) Arnold Developer and Enthusiast Advocate http://texrat.net +18177396806 Randall (Randy) Arnold Developer and Enthusiast Advocate http://texrat.net +18177396806 -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [Coworking] SBA won't fund coworking??
, but that would have to amount to a lot of revenue...at least equal to the coworking memberships. 1 desk = $500, vs 100 magazines @ $5 each. Multiply by at least 20 desks. Print magazines are dying so... Rena, its possible to convince some loan officer to convince the loan committee and therefore the SBA approval process, but itd be an exception than the rule. Jerome www.BLANKSPACES.com On Apr 25, 2013, at 2:15 PM, Randall G. Arnold randall.arn...@texrat.net wrote: Which would support the idea of hosting a deli and/or magazine and other related sales activities onsite. Is training considered passive? After hours rentals? Randy On April 25, 2013 at 4:05 PM Jerome Chang jer...@blankspaces.com wrote: An inside source once told me that the SBA doesnt finance operations based on passive income. Gyms with passive membership fees get away with it because they have a lot of trainers, retail sales, etc. So unless you can prove that more than 50% of your business is not passive, youre out of luck. Jerome www.BLANKSPACES.com On Apr 25, 2013, at 1:58 PM, Rena Tom bob...@gmail.com wrote: Help me out, all. I just had a conversation with the NYBDC (New York Business Development Corporation) which works with the SBA on lending. They said the SBA wont fund coworking spaces because its too much like a landlord/subtenant situation which is not in their charter. Have any of you taken a SBA loan for your space? This just sounds wonky to me. Rena -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. Randall (Randy) Arnold Developer and Enthusiast Advocate http://texrat.net
Re: [Coworking] Sharing print material
I also recommend standardizing on SVG and PNG formats as much as reasonably possible, with preference for SVG (vector) due to its ability to scale. Randy On February 4, 2013 at 4:01 PM Jacob Sayles ja...@officenomads.com wrote: This is a great idea. We could easily keep a page on the wiki that contains design files ready to print. Keep in mind that we are more librarians then designers. We can help with the organization and stewarding. Jacob On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Randall G. Arnold randall.arn...@texrat.net wrote: Its a great idea. Ive done it in open source communities by using a wiki. Members upload assets for others to browse and use; over time this sort of thing self-organizes but its good to have a volunteer steward or two. I would recommend making sharing/usage policies very clear upfront, and propose they be as liberal as possible (eg, Creative Commons attributable). Randy On February 4, 2013 at 3:08 PM Craig Baute - Creative Density Coworking baut...@gmail.com wrote: We all share knowledge, but it would also be helpful for us to share marketing collateral as templates. Ya know, awesome posters, post cards, business cards, whatever. This way we dont have to reproducing the same stuff that weve been using and instead just fork it for our own communities. I think this could be done on the Coworking Wiki fairly easily. What do you think and if you have any other ideas on how this could be accomplished. Craig Creative Density -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [Coworking] Business Model Study Group
Hello all, I'm still just a fly on the wall with big dreams about building a coworking space, but I'll go ahead and share my thoughts on this. My goal would be a space 100% free of charge for members. Granted that could be difficult, but that's where I would aim. My thoughts on accomplishing that are as follows: 1. Promotions/Partnerships. I would work with companies willing to put up funds in return for promotion. For instance, companies could propose projects, contests, etc for my members. I in turn would extend their advertising reach, especially with grassroots efforts. Some funds from participating entities would go toward operations. 2. Sponsors. I would not charge individual freelance, student, retired or unemployed members, but any companies needing temporary or permanent space would be charged. 3. Services. My dream coworking space would include a cafe (possibly with a drive through to increase traffic), magazine rack, small store, and packing/shipping/binding/etc services. Maybe even partner with Fed Ex, Staples etc to house a satellite operation for them. 4. Whatever else comes to mind! Granted these require some effort and may not work for everyone if at all, but the idea is to create a self-sustaining environment for coworkers. I do think it's possible. Randy On November 14, 2012 at 12:13 PM Jerome Chang jer...@blankspaces.com wrote: FYI, the serviced office industry, aka, Regus et al, have provided other revenue streams for decades, including said mail/phone, printing...even internet access (which they sometimes call, data plans for combo laptops and VoIP phones). They're all add-ons in their minds, even kitchen access ($150/person!!!). Assuming some of these add'l revenue streams are ones we'd even consider, note that have indeed been fully developed by them, just not by us...yet? Jerome __ BLANKSPACES work FOR yourself, not BY yourself www.blankspaces.com http://www.blankspaces.com 5405 Wilshire Blvd (2 blocks west of La Brea) Los Angeles, CA 90036 323.330.9505 (office) On Nov 14, 2012, at 8:39 AM, Craig Baute - Creative Density Coworking baut...@gmail.com mailto:baut...@gmail.com wrote: I do think the coworking business model is immature but proven to work. The coworking world has many successful stories and many failures, but we are within the failure and success rates of any other business and in many cases doing better. What I think the coworking business model does need to explore is additional revenue sources beyond just memberships that benefit the members. There have been several previous discussions in this groups about alternative sources - sponsorships, classes, add ons like mail or printing - but these models and the process of launching them have not fully developed. I think these need to explored more in the open because I don't think a lot of us share these stories. I also think keeping new spaces expectations in check and doing a proper cost and revenue analysis combined with proper runway funding would be the biggest benefit to discuss. My gut instinct is that a coworking space is many space owners first time taking on a large sum of fixed expenses versus having a service based company and can have new challenges. I'm finishing up a book right now and Alex is working on one as well that discusses the business aspect of coworking to address some of these problems. I would be happy to contribute some of the spreadsheets and pricing models and insights that will be in the book to the conversation. Craig Creative Density -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com http://discuss.coworking.com/ -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com http://discuss.coworking.com Randall (Randy) Arnold Developer and Enthusiast Advocate http://texrat.net +18177396806 -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com
Re: [Coworking] Business Model Study Group
Alex you jogged my memory-- I forgot another revenue source I had n mind. While brainstorming my Dream Coworking Space I realized that after hours use could be profitable. If the space was designed right and had enough room, it could host after hours parties, training, meetups, etc. I've been involved in open source software communities for several years and at every event we were looking for interesting places to hold evening mixers. The right kind of coworking space could be ideal. Randy On November 14, 2012 at 12:27 PM Alex Hillman dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com wrote: I agree, and I think that our edge can be staying aligned with what makes coworking unique. The first thing I think if looking for ways to implement add-ons in a way that doesn't feel transactional t think we're on a different path with add-ons, given a bend away from utility and toward a participation. Example: Many spaces are defining models for hosting events. On one end of the spectrum, you can provided space to host an event. But taking the participation angle, we can provide the space for a fee to members and partners who want to do things that contribute to the community: classes, workshops, brainstorms, presentations, lectures, etc. The former is consumptive. They utilize the space for a period of time, we get money in return. If we do a good job, they get value from having been hosted, and we get money for providing the opportunity. The latter is additive. In our case, we have members who have gained knowledge to share (+1 for the organizer for learning by teaching), other members within and outside of the community who want to gain that knowledge (+1 for the attendee for the professional/personal development), and we help communicate the experience in the context of our goals as a community (+1 for expression of common goals). Individually these three components would add value. Combining them, though, can be done so that the sum is greater than the parts. When that happens, the value can attract more value that doesn't consume the finite resources that we have to offer. -Alex -- /ah indyhall.org coworking in philadelphia pre-order the new eBook, http://book.businessofcommunity.com?email the business of community http://book.businessofcommunity.com/?ref=email On Wednesday, November 14, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Jerome Chang wrote: FYI, the serviced office industry, aka, Regus et al, have provided other revenue streams for decades, including said mail/phone, printing...even internet access (which they sometimes call, data plans for combo laptops and VoIP phones). They're all add-ons in their minds, even kitchen access ($150/person!!!). Assuming some of these add'l revenue streams are ones we'd even consider, note that have indeed been fully developed by them, just not by us...yet? Jerome __ BLANKSPACES work FOR yourself, not BY yourself www.blankspaces.com http://www.blankspaces.com 5405 Wilshire Blvd (2 blocks west of La Brea) Los Angeles, CA 90036 323.330.9505 (office) On Nov 14, 2012, at 8:39 AM, Craig Baute - Creative Density Coworking baut...@gmail.com mailto:baut...@gmail.com wrote: I do think the coworking business model is immature but proven to work. The coworking world has many successful stories and many failures, but we are within the failure and success rates of any other business and in many cases doing better. What I think the coworking business model does need to explore is additional revenue sources beyond just memberships that benefit the members. There have been several previous discussions in this groups about alternative sources - sponsorships, classes, add ons like mail or printing - but these models and the process of launching them have not fully developed. I think these need to explored more in the open because I don't think a lot of us share these stories. I also think keeping new spaces expectations in check and doing a proper cost and revenue analysis combined with proper runway funding would be the biggest benefit to discuss. My gut instinct is that a coworking space is many space owners first time taking on a large sum of fixed expenses versus having a service based company and can have new challenges. I'm finishing up a book right now and Alex is working on one as well that discusses the business aspect of coworking to address some of these problems. I would be happy to contribute some of the spreadsheets and pricing models and insights that will be in the book to the conversation. Craig Creative Density -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com http://discuss.coworking.com/
Re: [Coworking] problems with getting through to people
What Jerome said. Also, make sure to get out and join/network with user and enthusiast groups that could benefit from your services. Developer groups, Adobe Photoshop users, web designers, etc. Visit with any and all groups that could utilize your space. Leave cards with them offering free or discounted usage. Get in touch with schools and especially universities. Randy On September 12, 2012 at 10:32 AM Jerome Chang jer...@blankspaces.com wrote: Host events. Repeat, mix, and stir. Jerome __ BLANKSPACES work FOR yourself, not BY yourself www.blankspaces.com 5405 Wilshire Blvd (2 blocks west of La Brea) Los Angeles, CA 90036 323.330.9505 (office) On Sep 12, 2012, at 7:26 AM, Piotr Boulangé piotr.boula...@gmail.com wrote: Alex, thanks for email :) I am new, but it's 4th month, and I have 5 people part-time. They came, because the communictaion (?) was good = close to home, not far from subway or tram. and that's all. I just can't get people to come and visit us... that's my problem. This idea is new for them... 2012/9/12 Alex Hillman dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com Pitor, Do you have any members now? Or are you just not growing? Have you asked the members you do have why they come and why they stay? -Alex -- /ah indyhall.org coworking in philadelphia On Wednesday, September 12, 2012 at 5:46 AM, Piotr Boulangé wrote: Hi, there were so called summer days when a lot of (young?) people don';t think about work... Nevertheless, the summer has ended and I just can't get an idea, of how to reach the potential clients - coworkers - freelnacers. We have just few people interested, and they SAY that the idea is great... the place is ok and that's it... the rest doesn't follow... maybe any of you can share some experience? if not publicly, than at least of the record? :) thanks. piotr.boula...@gmial.com www.clock-work.pl www.facebook.com/clockwork.cowork -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/coworking/-/juVastX29DcJ. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Community Messaging
Rachel, just curious about the causing trouble part-- you don't mean current customers, right? Just those who leave and then maybe cause mischief with their account afterward? Randy On August 22, 2012 at 10:11 AM rachel young rac...@camaraderie.ca wrote: Their basic level package allows you to use the service as a private network with everything I've listed before. What starts to cost moneyhttps://www.yammer.com/about/pricing/is if you want custom branding (beyond just naming your network), admin control (to block or remove someone), custom usage policy, monitoring keywords, etc. We've been using it for almost 2yrs yet and have the contingency plan to start paying for it when we need to have some admin control, but so far we've been blessed with not needing it. We don't ask any of our former members to leave the network since we usually love them and are sad to see them leave the nest, but some leave the network on their own and delete their own accounts. If ever there is someone causing trouble, we'll start paying to get admin control and block/remove them. I'm not against paying for the services we use, but their basic package has everything we need right now. r. * rachel young *rac...@camaraderie.ca *Find us in person:* Camaraderie 102 Adelaide St E 2nd Floor Toronto, ON M5C 1K9 (647) 861-4350 *Find us online:* Website/blog http://camaraderie.ca and Newsletterhttp://bit.ly/camaraderienewsletter Google+ http://bit.ly/CamaraderiePlus, Twitterhttp://twitter.com/camaraderie , Facebook http://bit.ly/9zv3Fx, and LinkedInhttp://bit.ly/CamaraderieGroup *Be in business for yourself, not by yourself! * *Continue the conversations you started on May 27* *at FLCTO2 by joining the LinkedIn group http://linkd.in/FLCTO.* * * *Are you a coworking commitmentphobe? * *Try the Coworking Toronto Passport Program http://bit.ly/CTOPassport2012* *for a day pass to seven spaces for one price.* * * On 22 August 2012 09:55, Alex Hillman dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com wrote: On business accounts ($5/user) only, right? I can't find this option on the free trial account. -Alex On Aug 22, 2012, at 8:26 AM, rachel young rac...@camaraderie.ca wrote: It used to, but they changed that about 2yrs ago. Any e-mail address can be used now. r. On Aug 21, 2012 1:57 PM, Alex Hillman dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com wrote: i thought yammer requires everyone use the same email domain? how does that work? -- /ah indyhall.org coworking in philadelphia -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Community Messaging
Ah, ok. I was thinking that if current members were abusive that THEY would be removed. ;) But I can see where some might cause problems for others on the network without possibly crossing the line to outright loss of all privileges. Randy On August 22, 2012 at 10:26 AM rachel young rac...@camaraderie.ca wrote: I meant current or former members who are abusive, unfair, intolerant, spammy (after being asked not to be), or just generally being jerks. Whether they are current members or former members, if they are causing trouble and won't stop after being asked, then we'll have to remove them. But thankfully we haven't had anyone causing any trouble in our network. r. * rachel young *rac...@camaraderie.ca *Find us in person:* Camaraderie 102 Adelaide St E 2nd Floor Toronto, ON M5C 1K9 (647) 861-4350 *Find us online:* Website/blog http://camaraderie.ca and Newsletterhttp://bit.ly/camaraderienewsletter Google+ http://bit.ly/CamaraderiePlus, Twitterhttp://twitter.com/camaraderie , Facebook http://bit.ly/9zv3Fx, and LinkedInhttp://bit.ly/CamaraderieGroup *Be in business for yourself, not by yourself! * *Continue the conversations you started on May 27* *at FLCTO2 by joining the LinkedIn group http://linkd.in/FLCTO.* * * *Are you a coworking commitmentphobe? * *Try the Coworking Toronto Passport Program http://bit.ly/CTOPassport2012* *for a day pass to seven spaces for one price.* * * On 22 August 2012 10:21, Randall G. Arnold randall.arn...@texrat.netwrote: ** Rachel, just curious about the causing trouble part-- you don't mean current customers, right? Just those who leave and then maybe cause mischief with their account afterward? Randy On August 22, 2012 at 10:11 AM rachel young rac...@camaraderie.ca wrote: Their basic level package allows you to use the service as a private network with everything I've listed before. What starts to cost moneyhttps://www.yammer.com/about/pricing/is if you want custom branding (beyond just naming your network), admin control (to block or remove someone), custom usage policy, monitoring keywords, etc. We've been using it for almost 2yrs yet and have the contingency plan to start paying for it when we need to have some admin control, but so far we've been blessed with not needing it. We don't ask any of our former members to leave the network since we usually love them and are sad to see them leave the nest, but some leave the network on their own and delete their own accounts. If ever there is someone causing trouble, we'll start paying to get admin control and block/remove them. I'm not against paying for the services we use, but their basic package has everything we need right now. r. * rachel young *rac...@camaraderie.ca *Find us in person:* Camaraderie 102 Adelaide St E 2nd Floor Toronto, ON M5C 1K9 (647) 861-4350 *Find us online:* Website/blog http://camaraderie.ca and Newsletterhttp://bit.ly/camaraderienewsletter Google+ http://bit.ly/CamaraderiePlus, Twitter http://twitter.com/camaraderie , Facebook http://bit.ly/9zv3Fx, and LinkedIn http://bit.ly/CamaraderieGroup *Be in business for yourself, not by yourself! * *Continue the conversations you started on May 27* *at FLCTO2 by joining the LinkedIn group http://linkd.in/FLCTO.* * * *Are you a coworking commitmentphobe? * *Try the Coworking Toronto Passport Program http://bit.ly/CTOPassport2012* *for a day pass to seven spaces for one price.* * * On 22 August 2012 09:55, Alex Hillman dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com wrote: On business accounts ($5/user) only, right? I can't find this option on the free trial account. -Alex On Aug 22, 2012, at 8:26 AM, rachel young rac...@camaraderie.ca wrote: It used to, but they changed that about 2yrs ago. Any e-mail address can be used now. r. On Aug 21, 2012 1:57 PM, Alex Hillman dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com wrote: i thought yammer requires everyone use the same email domain? how does that work? -- /ah indyhall.org coworking in philadelphia -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options
Re: [Coworking] Community Messaging
This conversation has me wondering-- what about on-site instant messaging to all members in the facility? Has anyone had a need for it, and if so, did you implement something? Randy On August 21, 2012 at 11:28 AM rachel young rac...@camaraderie.ca wrote: I'm a big fan of encouraging bi-directional community messaging, something like a Google group or Yammer. Our members have some important things to say and ask and post and encourage and celebrate, so it's not just the owners that post. We use Yammer, and it serves it's purpose well enough. It's pretty much like facebook, so people can post events, messages, links, photos, tag with topics, etc. Members can also choose if they want desktop notifications, e-mails, text messages, etc for how to read posts and how to use the service from their obile, via desktop app, web, etc and if they want instant notification or a daily summary, etc. Some people don't care to hear about the treat in the kitchen. Some people want to know about it as soon as it happens. It's also a great way to inform those who aren't here that day of what happened so that they still feel somewhat connected. I have no affiliation with Yammer. I just think it works well for us. And when something really important needs to be announced, no one complains about a regular ol' e-mail that gets sent out (in addition to posting it on Yammer) just to be sure that everyone can read the important stuff. r. * rachel young *rac...@camaraderie.ca *Find us in person:* Camaraderie 102 Adelaide St E 2nd Floor Toronto, ON M5C 1K9 (647) 861-4350 *Find us online:* Website/blog http://camaraderie.ca and Newsletterhttp://bit.ly/camaraderienewsletter Google+ http://bit.ly/CamaraderiePlus, Twitterhttp://twitter.com/camaraderie , Facebook http://bit.ly/9zv3Fx, and LinkedInhttp://bit.ly/CamaraderieGroup *Be in business for yourself, not by yourself! * *Continue the conversations you started on May 27* *at FLCTO2 by joining the LinkedIn group http://linkd.in/FLCTO.* * * *Are you a coworking commitmentphobe? * *Try the Coworking Toronto Passport Program http://bit.ly/CTOPassport2012* *for a day pass to seven spaces for one price.* * * On 20 August 2012 13:24, Alex Hillman dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com wrote: Unless email is integrated, people miss announcements. As much as people like to complain about email overload, it's 1000x more effective than anything else. If it's just one-way announcements, use an email marketing tool like Mailchimp or CampaignMonitor. For discussion lists, a private google group is handy (and free!) EXCEPT that people can easily remove themselves and you won't know about it. I've looked at just about every private email list tool out there and am pretty sure will be building our own this fall. If anyone is interested in contributing to building this tool (I've got a spec written already), drop me a line off-list. -Alex -- /ah indyhall.org coworking in philadelphia On Monday, August 20, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Tom Hudzina wrote: Hey gang, might I ask what are you all are using for community message boards? Wiki? Google Apps? Third Party? Website Blog? What's been working the best for posting announcements to the community and the community posting their thoughts and events? Tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/coworking/-/ZYjlP-AgMV4J. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Kickstarter project you might be interested in
Miles, Based on your Kickstarter project, I thought you (and the group in general) might be interested in this article on personal data control: http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2012/08/01/iphone/ http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2012/08/01/iphone/ Randy On July 30, 2012 at 10:14 AM Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: Hi Folks, I just launched a Kickstater project that might interest some of you. At various times, I've been involved in various efforts to help startup and small organizations - most notably as one of the original founders of the MIT Enterprise Forum, and building a couple of early online marketplaces for small companies. Over the years, my thing has been the theory and practice of using the Internet to support virtual organizations.Over 40 years, I've scratched this itch by working on everything from list hosting, to C2 systems and distributed simulation, to electronic town meetings, online rulemakings, and webmarkets. I've been particularly interested in tools to support virtual teams and projects - sort of providing the electronic counterpart to co-working spaces. I've continued to find that the simplest tools seem to be the most effective - particularly email lists, and various forms of shared/synchronized documents, both on paper (musical scores, theatrical scripts) and electronic (RFCs, linked spreadsheets, military mission orders distributed by email). The Kickstarter project represents a distillation of a lot of ideas about how to support virtual projects and teams with smart documents.It started out as some funded work on smart op orders that I'm trying to generalize as an open source tools.I'm nominally calling them smart notebooks - and the core idea is keeping people on the same page, across the net. Think of a composer, writing some music, then handing out pages to orchestra members, then telling people to mark up their pages - then think about writing in a web browser, distributing by email, and linking the pages so markups propagate automatically.Functionally, I've been thinking of the tool as a cross between a DayRunner on steroids, and HyperCard, retooled for groups, running in a browser. No new tools to install, no fancy groupware running in the cloud - just web apps executing locally, email, and a P2P protocol. I encourage you to take a look at http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1947703258/smart-notebooks-keeping-on-the-same-page-across-th and if you're so moved, get on board. If you can help spread the word - by reposting/retweeting/slashdotting/putting and so forth - that would really be helpful.If you know anybody at Wired or Gizmodo, that would also be helpful (seems like coverage by one of those is a really good vehicle to successful Kickstarter funding). If you have a project coming up that needs tools for supporting a distributed effort - say a large crowdsourcing project, or organizing a large event - I'm looking for scenarios to support - particuarly if you're funded :-) If you run a co-working space, and think this might be useful to your tenants, let me know! And there's a 30-day clock running, so sooner is better! Thank you very much for any support you might offer, Miles Fidelman -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. Yogi Berra -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Kickstarter project you might be interested in
Miles, I'm highly interested and may very well pitch in. I wrote along similar lines not long ago (http://texrat.net/what-is-tribal-method/ http://texrat.net/what-is-tribal-method/ ) because like you and many others I've seen this need for quite some time. I put my own plans on hold though because I started seeing others who were way ahead of me in implementing solutions... Randy On July 30, 2012 at 10:14 AM Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: Hi Folks, I just launched a Kickstater project that might interest some of you. At various times, I've been involved in various efforts to help startup and small organizations - most notably as one of the original founders of the MIT Enterprise Forum, and building a couple of early online marketplaces for small companies. Over the years, my thing has been the theory and practice of using the Internet to support virtual organizations.Over 40 years, I've scratched this itch by working on everything from list hosting, to C2 systems and distributed simulation, to electronic town meetings, online rulemakings, and webmarkets. I've been particularly interested in tools to support virtual teams and projects - sort of providing the electronic counterpart to co-working spaces. I've continued to find that the simplest tools seem to be the most effective - particularly email lists, and various forms of shared/synchronized documents, both on paper (musical scores, theatrical scripts) and electronic (RFCs, linked spreadsheets, military mission orders distributed by email). The Kickstarter project represents a distillation of a lot of ideas about how to support virtual projects and teams with smart documents.It started out as some funded work on smart op orders that I'm trying to generalize as an open source tools.I'm nominally calling them smart notebooks - and the core idea is keeping people on the same page, across the net. Think of a composer, writing some music, then handing out pages to orchestra members, then telling people to mark up their pages - then think about writing in a web browser, distributing by email, and linking the pages so markups propagate automatically.Functionally, I've been thinking of the tool as a cross between a DayRunner on steroids, and HyperCard, retooled for groups, running in a browser. No new tools to install, no fancy groupware running in the cloud - just web apps executing locally, email, and a P2P protocol. I encourage you to take a look at http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1947703258/smart-notebooks-keeping-on-the-same-page-across-th and if you're so moved, get on board. If you can help spread the word - by reposting/retweeting/slashdotting/putting and so forth - that would really be helpful.If you know anybody at Wired or Gizmodo, that would also be helpful (seems like coverage by one of those is a really good vehicle to successful Kickstarter funding). If you have a project coming up that needs tools for supporting a distributed effort - say a large crowdsourcing project, or organizing a large event - I'm looking for scenarios to support - particuarly if you're funded :-) If you run a co-working space, and think this might be useful to your tenants, let me know! And there's a 30-day clock running, so sooner is better! Thank you very much for any support you might offer, Miles Fidelman -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. Yogi Berra -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Centre for Social Innovation - Opening In New York City!
Eli, Any provisions for Maker activities, or just coding? Along similar lines, I'm trying to put a hackerspace together for Fort Worth, TX (http://downtownfortworth.mindmixer.com/downtown-fort-worth-vision/fort-worth-hackerspace http://downtownfortworth.mindmixer.com/downtown-fort-worth-vision/fort-worth-hackerspace )... maybe you could consider us next? ;) Randy On July 30, 2012 at 12:08 PM Eli Malinsky e...@socialinnovation.ca wrote: Hey everyone, I wanted to let you all know that CSI will be opening a space in New York City. This is a HUGE step for us - something we never imagined. But a very exciting opportunity presented itself and we jumped at the chance (well, 'jumped' after a lot of reflection!). Although we had been approached by dozens of folks over the years, New York City represents a special opportunity for us. Social innovation is growing around the world but NYC doesn't have a space or incubator that focuses on this field. We believe that our experience can lead to something important for our sector. Our plan is to open a 24,000 sq ft space in Chelsea this fall/winter. The space will be based on our current model - a mix of offices, desks and hot desks, with a heavy emphasis on community engagement and programming. We've just gone public with the announcement and I will be moving down in the fall to lead the charge, alongside a NYC crew we are assembling. I want to give a special shout-out to the coworking spaces we've visited that have been so welcoming and generous with their time - namely Tony at New Work City, Marissa at Greenspaces, and James at Projective. We are so thankful for their response to our news. We are really excited to find our niche in NYC's growing coworking community and to contribute to the movement. We'd love to connect with any other coworking spaces out there so just send me a note (e...@socialinnovation.org) and we'll find time to meet. Here's a bit more information about the project: Press Release: http://socialinnovation.ca/blog/csi-starrett-lehigh-press-release Blog Post (Why NYC?): http://socialinnovation.ca/blog/csi-starrett-lehigh-why-new-york-why-now The Backstory: http://socialinnovation.ca/blog/centre-for-social-innovation-new-york Thanks all!! Eli Malinsky Centre for Social Innovation Toronto (and New York City!) P.S. SORRY ABOUT THE AUTO-REPLY - my personal account was spamming the list during my vacation last week :-( -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/coworking/-/yAnsn8pYAiwJ. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
[Coworking] Project: Fort Worth Hackerspace
Hello all, As I've expressed before, starting up my own coworking space has been a dream of mine for over 10 years but I'm not personally in a position to make it happen. However, the city of Fort Worth, Texas has started an exciting project soliciting ideas from the community on how to revitalize and stimulate the downtown area. It occured to me that a facility like Tampere, Finland's New Factory (http://newfactory.fi/ http://newfactory.fi/ ), that is owned and managed by the city for civil and commercial purposes, would be ideal for this project. So I've begun a proposal on the project site for a Fort Worth Hackerspace, which I dub the Cowtown Collaboration Center. Feel free to check it out and add to the discussion if you like! Make sure to second the proposal if you do! http://www.futuredowntown.org/downtown-fort-worth-vision/fort-worth-hackerspace http://www.futuredowntown.org/downtown-fort-worth-vision/fort-worth-hackerspace Thanks all, Randall (Randy) Arnold Developer and Enthusiast Advocate http://texrat.net +18177396806 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Going to Dallas and would love to tour all the coworking space while there!
You'll definitely want to check in with the folks at CoHabitat (http://cohabitat.us/dallas/ http://cohabitat.us/dallas/ ), especially Bradley Joyce (@bradleyjoyce on twitter). I'll warn you though: it's really HOT here right now! Dress appropriately! Randy On June 25, 2012 at 1:57 PM Posh CoWorking blossombrae...@gmail.com wrote: Hey everyone, Thank you for reading my email. We are traveling to Dallas this week and would love to have the inside scoop on where to visit, and who in the Dallas area, is in the know about coworking spaces. Seeking to better our education on how to support or members with community and co-existence. Thank you in advance for your suggestions. Blossom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/coworking/-/p2As37e2zDEJ. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Re: Say goodbye to the Global Coworking Blog?
All caveats about aggregation are well-taken, Jacob, but there's no reason to even consider making it THAT easy IMO. That wasn't even on my mind when I originally tossed out the suggestion. Certainly, there should be some thought put into the process that prevents a firehose result. The original issue was someone not having time and/or interest in keeping the blog fresh and current, and I proposed pulling in content from other blogs as *one* possibility. I've seen it done very well in other communities; the use of filter categories and/or keywords, combined with an initial rigorous vetting process, allows the maintainer to reduce their portion of the work considerably. But, sure, 100% automated has its own issues. Anyway thanks for your efforts and I look forward to the results! Randy On May 21, 2012 at 2:04 PM Jacob Sayles ja...@officenomads.com wrote: Aggregation is tricky because the easier you make it to post the more it becomes an unhelpful firehouse of information. That said, RSS feeds can be useful tools depending on how they are managed. To answer the good source of coworking space RSS feeds issue, that's one of the features at the heart of the work we are doing with the coworking wiki. You know the part with pretty maps that pulls embedded data from each coworking space's website? That's all part of the plan. So, in short *I'm working in it*! It's not going to be the full aggregated blog you talked about here, but nothing would stop anyone from taking the feeds and doing this. In fact, being easy to extend is part of the design. Jacob --- Office Nomads - Individuality without Isolation http://www.officenomads.com - (206) 323-6500 On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 8:42 PM, Devin devinbalk...@gmail.com wrote: Randy, I love the aggregation idea. I spun up a Wordpress site with a feedwordpress aggregation plug-in at coworking.floing.org and threw in 20+ space RSS feeds that are located in this spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArhSktWsQi1VdGgtcEJfZmV5NWtiaGZQUUIzTVdkd2c Looks good to me. The plug-in can automatically add content items as drafts or published articles on a feed by feed basis, so noise can be reduced. Additionally, participating spaces could use a keyword to automatically bring their content into the system, have it auto- published, etc. There are lots of options and I'm definitely interested in collaborating on such an endeavour. Let me know if you're interested - and if you knows a good source of coworking space RSS feeds. :) On May 17, 2:21 pm, Randall G. Arnold randall.arn...@texrat.net wrote: What about aggregating content automatically from different blogs, based on keywords? I plan to write relevant articles athttp://post404.com http://post404.com and don't mind them being syndicated in. Randy On May 17, 2012 at 2:04 PM Alex Hillman dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com wrote: I'd be happy to repost. Just gotta work it into our process. -- /ah indyhall.org coworking in philadelphia On Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Jerome Chang wrote: btw, couldn't we use Alex's weekly rag as blog content? Jerome __ BLANKSPACES work FOR yourself, not BY yourself www.blankspaces.com(http://www.blankspaces.com) ph: 323.330.9505 | 5405 Wilshire Blvd (2 blocks west of La Brea) Los Angeles, CA 90036 On May 12, 2012, at 7:19 AM, Angel Kwiatkowski wrote: As the moderator and general janitor of this blog I'd like to be the first to day out loud that I think this blog has run its course. I'd like to propose that it redirects somewhere else or goes away completely. Thoughts? If no one has any compelling argument to keep it around, I'll let it slowly sink away with the setting sun :) http://blog.coworking.com/ Angel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/coworking/-/2iD8fgdxCcIJ. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com (mailto:coworking@googlegroups.com). To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com (mailto:coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com). For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
Re: [Coworking] Say goodbye to the Global Coworking Blog?
What about aggregating content automatically from different blogs, based on keywords? I plan to write relevant articles at http://post404.com http://post404.com and don't mind them being syndicated in. Randy On May 17, 2012 at 2:04 PM Alex Hillman dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com wrote: I'd be happy to repost. Just gotta work it into our process. -- /ah indyhall.org coworking in philadelphia On Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Jerome Chang wrote: btw, couldn't we use Alex's weekly rag as blog content? Jerome __ BLANKSPACES work FOR yourself, not BY yourself www.blankspaces.com (http://www.blankspaces.com) ph: 323.330.9505 | 5405 Wilshire Blvd (2 blocks west of La Brea) Los Angeles, CA 90036 On May 12, 2012, at 7:19 AM, Angel Kwiatkowski wrote: As the moderator and general janitor of this blog I'd like to be the first to day out loud that I think this blog has run its course. I'd like to propose that it redirects somewhere else or goes away completely. Thoughts? If no one has any compelling argument to keep it around, I'll let it slowly sink away with the setting sun :) http://blog.coworking.com/ Angel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/coworking/-/2iD8fgdxCcIJ. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com (mailto:coworking@googlegroups.com). To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com (mailto:coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com). For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Could co-working succeed in a traditional St Paul neighborhood?
My general thoughts ... I'm a wannabee space creator but even more than that I'm a wannabee coworker. Outside of a love of collaborating, my number one motivator is convenience. It is inconvenient for me to deal with the terrible traffic in the Dallas - Fort Worth area. It is inconvenient for me to drive away from work if I don't pack a lunch. It is inconvenient for me to maintain 2 automobiles... I'd rather walk or ride a bike or moped. Traffic is the biggest aggravation for me by far, and I suspect for many commuters.. I spent over an hour going 13 miles today... along with thousands of other frustrated commuters. Plop a coworking space in or close to a congested area like my town (Keller, TX) and get employer buy-in, and people should be breaking your door down to use your space. Convenience. Amenities. Employers willing to buy-in to coworking and/or self-employed individuals with a need. That's where I would start... so I would really think hard about traffic patterns in and around your target location. Randy On May 15, 2012 at 9:17 AM Bob T bob.mail...@gmail.com wrote: I am considering buying a building in a neighborhood that is mostly working people, and very diverse. There is nothing upscale in the area, but it is not scary either.It has a mix of businesses like cleaners, insurance, auto parts, electricians, chiropractors, travel agencies. I doubt that there are many people who live in the immediate area who would be potential members. It would have to be people who would come in from nearby. Its on a major street into dowtown, near a major highway, 2 miles from downtown, and would have easy free parking. Here is a view of the building: ( 1116 Rice Street , St Paul ) http://goo.gl/AR4Pv There is a little mall nearby, a corner grocery next door, an ice cream and sub shop, a public library, catholic church. It's about 2 miles from downtown, and on a major street that comes in from the suburbs. The reason that I picked this location is that it is near my home, and I liked the building. I am getting a good deal on the building, but it needs lots of work to turn it into offices. I'll be in the building myself, but I am mainly doing this to attract other people so I am not working at home anymore ( or, as I like to call it, Living at Work ) One of the options I could offer would be a virtual server on one of my VMware host machines. I will improve the building for office work.It could be a comfortable environment, but it will never be a glass/chrome/granite style palace.The property includes a vacant lot that could be used for outside lounging. The building is built in 1902 and has high ceilings and tall windows. Would appreciate any feed back asap, before I shell out more money! Thanks! Bob -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Re: Last push to support Coworking Startups
I wouldn't (and don't) worry about using Twitter as an authentication tool: the company has been proving lately that it intends to distinguish itself from Facebook and Google by being highly protective of user data. Randy (neither an employee or beneficiary of twitter other than through enjoyable service) On May 9, 2012 at 3:10 PM Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: I would, except to do so requires logging in via either Facebook, Twitter, or Google - with each one asking for far more access to account information than I'm comfortable giving. Sorry... Veel Hoeden- Where Many Hats Meet! wrote: Try this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgeJP-BhzRMlist=PLC5EB46C1BDEC0D19index=6f eature=plcp Thanks God Bless, Joel Bennett Chief Dreamchaser Veel Hoeden 641-780-7858 veelhoeden.posterous.com Join Us on Facebook! -Original Message- From: coworking@googlegroups.com [mailto:coworking@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Toni Hogan Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 1:59 PM To: Coworking Subject: [Coworking] Re: Last push to support Coworking Startups is the wildbits video posted somewhere else? i can hear it but i can't see it. TH On May 9, 1:16 pm, Joel Bennettjbenn...@actsofiowa.org wrote: Coworkers- A week or more ago I asked the group to support my coworking space by watching our video and voting for us in Turnstone's $25,000 furniture/space makeover contest that was announced at GCUC. Although I'm not sure if there are other coworking spaces participating in the Top 25, I am aware that our own Alex Hillman (IndyHall) and their startup Wildbit is. Could you take a few moments to view out videos, both quite good I would add, and drop a thumbs up vote for both of us? Top 5 vote winners each get $25,000 to totally transform their space into their dream space. Just use this link, then click on Veel Hoeden Wildbit's videos. - http:/http://bit.ly/JIIiuK bit.ly/JIIiuK Voting ends May 13. Winners announced May 31. I hope we'll be able to deliver the news that we BOTH will be sitting pretty. Thanks God Bless, Joel Bennett Chief Dreamchaser Veel Hoeden veelhoeden.posterous.com Join Us on Facebookhttps://www.facebook.com/veelhoeden ! http://ink1003.com/p/tp/3ee1a6d9cb9fb511/url Follow us on Twitter image001.png 26KViewDownload -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. Yogi Berra -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] My first post, my first coworking space...
Welcome Jon! Your enthusiasm is really inspiring, and I'm betting you'll be successful at this venture. I'm still an office drudge but one of these days I hope to follow in your footsteps. It will be exciting and helpful for me to watch your space develop! Randy On May 7, 2012 at 12:57 PM Jon Graham j...@businesscasual.co wrote: Hello Hello! Before I started scouring the discussions of this group for the secrets of life/coworking I wanted to introduce myself to the community. I am eager to start my own coworking space is beautiful Philadelphia and I am in the middle of writing and modifying my business plan. I also wanted to say thanks to all of those people who have already helped me a ton, maybe even more than they know. This will be my first business, sans crappy college startup, so knowing that there is a growing community willing to grow coworking as a whole warms my heart. I fell in love with coworking while working at my last job, as a commercial interior space planner. Work cultures of all types fascinates me. Once I started to research other coworking businesses, I was blown away with the high level of camaraderie that exists between it's members. I strongly believe that coworking is something special... and I want to help it grow. Thanks to everyone in advance who will be helping me figure out the unique challenges of starting a coworking business. I am sooo excited! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Re: Brick Interior Walls? What Gives???
IF it's just sheetrock (aka drywall), then removal doesn't have to be costly and the mess would be minimal (some chalk dust alog with pieces to be carted off). But if there is other structure involved, such as studs, etc, then the cost would certainly go up. Sheetrock isn't typically attached directly to brick; there are usually wodden standoffs or firr out involved. Maybe even a chase (if there is a chase and it's used for utilities, THAT could be an issue). Stucco... well... removing THAT can get VERY costly and messy... Randy On April 27, 2012 at 4:19 PM Aliza Torok Schlabach aschlab...@gmail.com wrote: Tony, I am fairly confident that there is a lot of brick hiding behind drywall or sheetrock in what will hopefully be our future space. May I ask how much effort, time, and cost was involved in exposing your brick? The two architects I've had walk through the space said that it could be very messy/costly to expose it... but I LOVE the look of that exposed brick. Thanks! *Aliza Schlabach* Founder, Coworking for Parents www.CoworkingForParents.com http://www.coworkingforparents.com/ aschlab...@gmail.com 215.858.4658 Sign up for our email newsletter http://www.coworkingforparents.com/ | Join our Meetup group http://www.meetup.com/CoworkingForparents/ | Like us on Facebook http://www.facebook.com/CoworkingForParents On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Tony Bacigalupo t...@nwc.co wrote: FWIW our brick was hiding behind drywall when we moved in. The first thing we did after signing the lease was tear down the walls :-) We wouldn't have known the brick was there if not for the fact that we visited an upstairs space that was undergoing construction. Before: http://www.flickr.com/photos/robkelley/4755288781/in/gallery-lupo-72157626631495620/ After: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jcn/4984505287/in/gallery-lupo-72157626631495620/ Echoing what others have said, a lot can be done with different kinds of spaces. Lighting is probably one of the most critical things, as well as use of color. On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Toni Hogan t...@theofficeconnexion.comwrote: Chris, my husband is working on gathering youth and adult artists so he would love the idea of a weekend art studio. He and our 15 year old son are the co-founders of YoungMAC (Young Minds are Creative) so our space will be their lab/studio. Our 13 year old daughter is an artist with talent in pencil, chalks, digital and photography. She's getting into paints so a weekend studio would be awesome for her to be around other more experienced artists. h, Art Connexion Out of curiosity I search for faux brick and it actually exists. LOL! But, we won't go there. I am actually sitting in the space alone now getting a feel for it. :-) Toni On Apr 27, 12:15 pm, Chris Ritchie gamesa...@gmail.com wrote: There are also a lot of ways to dress a place up without resorting to installing brick walls and ventilation pipes. Natural light is good, creative gathering spaces are excellent. Local artist galleries are a great way of giving your space a creative feel. I actually thought up an idea for doing a weekend art studio day, where folks would come down and use paint and canvases I provided to create art to be displayed. Team building + community building all in one. On Thursday, April 26, 2012 7:14:19 PM UTC-5, Toni Hogan wrote: So, my curiosity has finally gotten the best of me. Is it just a coincidence that most of the coworking spaces I am checking out on the web have brick interior walls. Or, is this a faux feature that was added? I'm feeling left out. :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
Re: [Coworking] Re: Brick Interior Walls? What Gives???
Right, I was saying IF it's just sheetrock, no big deal really. I've done quite a bit of remodeling and tearing down sheetrock walls can stir up a lot of dust but there's really not much to it. Otherwise, if plaster, stucco or similar materials are involved, it CAN be a big deal. Sorry if that was unclear. Randy On April 27, 2012 at 4:55 PM Tom Brandt twbra...@gmail.com wrote: The previous owner of Workantile removed the drywall and plaster covering the interior brick walls of our 1890s building. The wals looks great now, but it was a hell of a lot of work for Mike to do it. On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Randall G. Arnold randall.arn...@texrat.net wrote: ** IF it's just sheetrock (aka drywall), then removal doesn't have to be costly and the mess would be minimal (some chalk dust alog with pieces to be carted off). But if there is other structure involved, such as studs, etc, then the cost would certainly go up. Sheetrock isn't typically attached directly to brick; there are usually wodden standoffs or firr out involved. Maybe even a chase (if there is a chase and it's used for utilities, THAT could be an issue). Stucco... well... removing THAT can get VERY costly and messy... Randy On April 27, 2012 at 4:19 PM Aliza Torok Schlabach aschlab...@gmail.com wrote: Tony, I am fairly confident that there is a lot of brick hiding behind drywall or sheetrock in what will hopefully be our future space. May I ask how much effort, time, and cost was involved in exposing your brick? The two architects I've had walk through the space said that it could be very messy/costly to expose it... but I LOVE the look of that exposed brick. Thanks! *Aliza Schlabach* Founder, Coworking for Parents www.CoworkingForParents.com http://www.coworkingforparents.com/ aschlab...@gmail.com 215.858.4658 Sign up for our email newsletter http://www.coworkingforparents.com/ | Join our Meetup group http://www.meetup.com/CoworkingForparents/ | Like us on Facebook http://www.facebook.com/CoworkingForParents On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Tony Bacigalupo t...@nwc.co wrote: FWIW our brick was hiding behind drywall when we moved in. The first thing we did after signing the lease was tear down the walls :-) We wouldn't have known the brick was there if not for the fact that we visited an upstairs space that was undergoing construction. Before: http://www.flickr.com/photos/robkelley/4755288781/in/gallery-lupo-72157626631495620/ After: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jcn/4984505287/in/gallery-lupo-72157626631495620/ Echoing what others have said, a lot can be done with different kinds of spaces. Lighting is probably one of the most critical things, as well as use of color. On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Toni Hogan t...@theofficeconnexion.comwrote: Chris, my husband is working on gathering youth and adult artists so he would love the idea of a weekend art studio. He and our 15 year old son are the co-founders of YoungMAC (Young Minds are Creative) so our space will be their lab/studio. Our 13 year old daughter is an artist with talent in pencil, chalks, digital and photography. She's getting into paints so a weekend studio would be awesome for her to be around other more experienced artists. h, Art Connexion Out of curiosity I search for faux brick and it actually exists. LOL! But, we won't go there. I am actually sitting in the space alone now getting a feel for it. :-) Toni On Apr 27, 12:15 pm, Chris Ritchie gamesa...@gmail.com wrote: There are also a lot of ways to dress a place up without resorting to installing brick walls and ventilation pipes. Natural light is good, creative gathering spaces are excellent. Local artist galleries are a great way of giving your space a creative feel. I actually thought up an idea for doing a weekend art studio day, where folks would come down and use paint and canvases I provided to create art to be displayed. Team building + community building all in one. On Thursday, April 26, 2012 7:14:19 PM UTC-5, Toni Hogan wrote: So, my curiosity has finally gotten the best of me. Is it just a coincidence that most of the coworking spaces I am checking out on the web have brick interior walls. Or, is this a faux feature that was added? I'm feeling left out. :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http
[Coworking] Coworking for the unemployed?
If this topic has come up before I apologize; I just missed it. The subject of 'free' comes up quite a bit, and it has me wondering: has anyone given thought to offering free space/services to people who have been laid off? I think it would be a good use of empty space if you have it, to make the place really look busy, and provide a benefit to people who could possibly really use it... financially and psychologically. I did most of my job search post layoff 3 years ago at home, but if this had been available, I would have tried it. Thoughts? Randall (Randy) Arnold Developer and Enthusiast Advocate http://texrat.net +18177396806 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Coworking for the unemployed?
Beautiful! Win-win! (no surprise) On April 23, 2012 at 10:51 PM Jenifer Ross westchesterwatercoo...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Randy- I do Unemployed Mondays at W@tercooler. I only opened 10 months ago, and I am not to capacity, so right now I let anyone who shows up use your desk. Are usually get 1-3 people. I think when I get busier, I will limit it to 1 desk and my lounge area for anyone who wants to come and work. I've had great success with the program. They have access to all of the member benefits while they're there and myself and my members all help to connect them to possible opportunities. Many of my unemployed monday folks have gotten jobs... which is awesome to watch... and right now one is starting his own business and hoping to take up residency at W@tercoolor. Not only that, many of them volunteer their time to give back to the space, which makes them feel like they are contributing something back- and it's great for me as I have no staff! Please feel free to give me a call or email back if you have any other questions. Cheers- Jenifer www.watercoolerhub.com On Apr 23, 2012 10:38 PM, Randall G. Arnold randall.arn...@texrat.net wrote: ** If this topic has come up before I apologize; I just missed it. The subject of 'free' comes up quite a bit, and it has me wondering: has anyone given thought to offering free space/services to people who have been laid off? I think it would be a good use of empty space if you have it, to make the place really look busy, and provide a benefit to people who could possibly really use it... financially and psychologically. I did most of my job search post layoff 3 years ago at home, but if this had been available, I would have tried it. Thoughts? Randall (Randy) Arnold Developer and Enthusiast Advocate http://texrat.net +18177396806 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Coworking for the unemployed?
I think the ad hoc staff idea is one of the best answers to free use I've seen yet. Kudos, Jenifer! On April 23, 2012 at 11:21 PM Cheryl Jaycox cheryl.cajservi...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you everyone...I was trying to figure out how to do this same thing...I have friends looking for work that of course I let use the space free. I was brainstroming ways to offer this... Great idea! Cheryl On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 10:02 PM, Randall G. Arnold randall.arn...@texrat.net wrote: ** Beautiful! Win-win! (no surprise) On April 23, 2012 at 10:51 PM Jenifer Ross westchesterwatercoo...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Randy- I do Unemployed Mondays at W@tercooler. I only opened 10 months ago, and I am not to capacity, so right now I let anyone who shows up use your desk. Are usually get 1-3 people. I think when I get busier, I will limit it to 1 desk and my lounge area for anyone who wants to come and work. I've had great success with the program. They have access to all of the member benefits while they're there and myself and my members all help to connect them to possible opportunities. Many of my unemployed monday folks have gotten jobs... which is awesome to watch... and right now one is starting his own business and hoping to take up residency at W@tercoolor. Not only that, many of them volunteer their time to give back to the space, which makes them feel like they are contributing something back- and it's great for me as I have no staff! Please feel free to give me a call or email back if you have any other questions. Cheers- Jenifer www.watercoolerhub.com On Apr 23, 2012 10:38 PM, Randall G. Arnold randall.arn...@texrat.net wrote: ** If this topic has come up before I apologize; I just missed it. The subject of 'free' comes up quite a bit, and it has me wondering: has anyone given thought to offering free space/services to people who have been laid off? I think it would be a good use of empty space if you have it, to make the place really look busy, and provide a benefit to people who could possibly really use it... financially and psychologically. I did most of my job search post layoff 3 years ago at home, but if this had been available, I would have tried it. Thoughts? Randall (Randy) Arnold Developer and Enthusiast Advocate http://texrat.net +18177396806 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- Cheryl Jaycox Community Manager Micro Office Suites Business Center The HIVE@44,Business Coworking Community Phone: 636-405-3130 Cell: 314-800-4305 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Anthony and Kevin at The Freelancers Union
Like others I wasn't there and won't second-guess the OP. That said, I think it's generally worthwhile to offer benefit of the doubt upfront. I can see good or evil in the terms that were described as offensive, and prefer to assume good. In any event, it's definitely worthwhile to ask questions during the presentation if possible and at the very least ask afterward. My own thoughts are that bouncing around can indeed work out for everyone, including providers of for-pay spaces. Jacob made some good points in that regard but there's also the fact that sooner or later free spaces fill up, especially with the natural publicity we can expect. So given time, that problem can solve itself. If I ever stumble into the funds necessary to start my own space (my ultimate dream), I plan to offer a percentage of free use right along with for-pay-- and applying some common-sense strings to the former. Of course facility services are a good carrot to encourage for-pay membership, but at the same time, positive stipulations can be applied to free spots. Ask for community service in return, for example. That could even mean mentoring, a natural fit for coworking anyway. If we rise out of the lead-weighted depths of frustration and look at this activity creatively, it's really not that difficult to convert problems into benefits. Randy On April 18, 2012 at 2:26 PM Jacob Sayles ja...@officenomads.com wrote: I think there might be a misunderstanding here. I've spent a considerable amount of time with the loosecubes folks and they get it. As someone who tends to blather on and try new wording quite a bit I understand how painfully awkward it can be to do that in a public forum and miss the mark. So I'll start by giving them the benefit of the doubt. As for the question of bouncing around I think this can be tremendously valuable and here in Seattle we encourage it. Not so that people can get as much free lunch as possible, but so they can feel out the right space for themselves. As I expressed in the first point I made, words can only get you so far and you really need to try things out to know if they will work for you. Jacob --- Office Nomads - Individuality without Isolation http://www.officenomads.com - (206) 323-6500 On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Joshua Marpet jmar...@datadevastation.comwrote: Wow. Strong words. I was not there, I am not saying the Loosecubes guys are scum for ignoring the communities at the places they crash at, or heroes for helping individual coworkers save some money. I am just, I guess, a little unhappy that the really pleasant group of people who have gathered here in this online coworking community are seeing the rise of elements that they feel prey on coworking. I wish it weren't so, but it is. So let's discuss it. Who thinks that the Loosecubes idea of bouncing from space to space is a horrible one? Who thinks it's acceptable? Why? Why not? How can we, as a community, protect our spaces, our members, our communities, our revenues (kids gotta eat!) from elements that we, as individual coworkers, as space owners, and as community stewards, find objectionable or unacceptable? Whether it's a NY Bah-gain hunter, or a Californian indulging a bit too much before coming to the space, there will always be individuals or groups that make us grit our teeth. How do we deal? My $.02. Joshua Marpet On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 12:31 PM, anothergain anotherg...@gmail.comwrote: I attended the monthly meeting of the New York Freelancers Union last night and was disgusted by the speakers for Loosecubes Anthony and Kevin. Anthony and Kevin were bragging that there are 50 spaces in NYC that offer desks for free and were encouraging the Freelancers Union members to bounce around and pay no money as the best way to get their cowork on. Coworking is about building a community of individuals, sharing resources and through that becoming a unit that is stronger than its parts. What Loosecubes seemed to be doing is encouraging people to use as many desks as possible for free without a sense at all of contributing or creating value for themselves or for the spaces. Even the Freelancers Union members were uncomfortable with their line: Nobody gets paid? Great business model! I can see a successful business offering up a desk that they're not using for free but any person who has found investors and opened a coworking studio as a means of community building should be appalled at Loosecubes undercutting the value of what these studios are trying to put together. It is obtuse to assume that an established business with spare desks offered for free just for the hell of it and a studio that opened simply for coworking sake could possibly be in the same position as far as what they can offer for what price. Encouraging people to use the New York spaces as
Re: [Coworking] must read
Sorry, I'm automatically skeptical of an email with must read as the subject and just a link in the body. I wouldn't click it until/unless the sender confirms it's safe and worthwhile. Randy On April 17, 2012 at 3:19 PM kaan aksay kaanak...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0385525761/ref=redir_mdp_mobile -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] must read
Thanks, I didn't know that about Kaan. I've just seen way, way too many
malicious emails that looked like that, especially from gmail and hotmail
accounts lately. Because of that, I've gotten in the habit of adding at
least a descriptive sentence or 2 about linked content to assure
recipients. A few more words in the subject can't hurt either. ;)
Randy
On April 17, 2012 at 9:14 PM Jacob Sayles ja...@officenomads.com wrote:
Here's what I do know. The link goes to a book on Amazon and looks
interesting. I also know Kaan contributed to the Coworking Wiki project.
Bots don't tend to donate to charitable causes so odds are intentions
are
good.
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Sorry, I'm automatically skeptical of an email with must read as the
subject and just a link in the body. I wouldn't click it until/unless
the
sender confirms it's safe and worthwhile.
Randy
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Re: [Coworking] Free coworking stresses the importance of community building and social capital
All very true, John, but then so is the converse of vague, open-ended descriptions. But that just goes back to the point that everyone starting a coworking spce needs to, IMO, provide as clear description of their goals BUT with the caveat that some aspects are fluid and/or negotiable. And you're quite correct that free can even provide value to the seller, especially if it's used as a loss leader. Providing free evening/weekend use to high school students (Science Fair, etc), or for SBA mentorship sessions, can have very profitable ripple effects. Randy On April 12, 2012 at 11:46 AM John Imperatore jijimp...@gmail.com wrote: *I have been working on opening a coworking office in NJ. One of the biggest lessons I’ve learned in this process is that defining coworking too closely is a trap. The needs of members and the community are a moving target. The minute you start informing people what it is, you risk limiting what it can become. I don’t see “free coworking” as the pure or ideal end to this journey. As I see it, “free” is just another price point. As long as you are creating value, you should welcome returns. If all coworking spaces sought to exist under one model, there becomes a risk of commoditizing the movement. In all the forums I have read, there is an acceptable level of agreement on the core values of this movement. I feel it benefits the coworking community, in the long run, to encourage freedom within these values. In order to deliver to the specific needs of each community. * * * *John Imperatore* *Plugged Inn* * * -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Free coworking stresses the importance of community building and social capital
At least Alex used the word MANY in his article instead of most (used earlier in the dialog); I suspect the latter to be hyperbolic. And not to axle-wrap over mere semantics, but I do wonder how many is MANY. I think that's actually important to the discussion, because I have to wonder what the NORM is. I also suspect that part of the distinction problem stems from those getting into this space without first understanding how and why they should separate their offerings from traditional establishments, as well as thinking through the pitfalls before opening up a coworking operation. But as was raised earlier, this isn't a black and white subject; coworking lives along a gradient of communal/corporate philosophy. There's room for all flavors, BUT operators do need to define their offerings clearly to customers IMO. Here is where my old military nomenclature experience rears its ugly head and wonders if qualifiers might help clear the confusion. Corporate Coworking vs Community Coworking, et al. Maybe my subconsious is reflexively overthinking it though. Anyway, it's also possible this is much ado about, ultimately, nothing. Still, the discussion has been (mostly) good, clean fun. :D Randy On April 10, 2012 at 4:41 PM Felix Schürholz calen...@coworking-news.de wrote: link to article with video: http://bit.ly/HsRlKH Already one of the great fruits of the widespread discussion on free coworking is the acknowledgement that paid coworking has lost its bearings in many instances. Alex Hillman on his blog dangerouslyawesomehttp://dangerouslyawesome.com/2012/04/free-as-in-coworking/ puts it like this: “MANY paid coworking spaces aren’t differentiating themselves from business centers and aren’t keeping in line with the coworking core values. Social capital is often missing from the exchange between the provider and the member.” I fully agree with Alex!!! To address these aspects free coworking stresses the importance of shared/common projects of the coworkers, social capital and community building. In this article I like look particularly at the last two namely community building and social capital. Up to now community building in coworking spaces has largely if not exclusively been the task of the coworking space operator or manager. This is and was fine in a time where coworking was just starting up and developing. In Germany for example in 2009, when coworking started to spread across the country, many coworking operators felt as if they had “invented coworkinghttp://www.coworking-news.de/2009/10/video-zum-treffen-der-coworking-initiativen-jetzt-online/” themselves. While this was always said with a smile, there was some real truth in it. In those days and in many instances today coworking space operators were and are still pioneers. It was normal that they would take care and focus on community building in their individual spaces. But times have changed and things have developed a great deal. With several hundred coworking spaces worldwide now, there is a huge knowledge base now that every new operator can draw upon. On top of that there is now a wonderful physical network of spaces worldwide that did not exist before. Now coworkers can travel through the world and they will find a coworking space in nearly every major city of the world. With this network in place I believe there should also be a shift in terms of community building in coworking. Now the coworkers themselves should become more active in community building. This community building can take various forms. One aspect can be in carrying out various jobs within the space itself as is done in the free coworking model of Gangplank http://www.coworking-news.de/?s=gangplank. One task or role here is called “the anchorhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEBy7idILDYfeature=player_embedded” (see video in article, or press link to video). Another task of community building should take place on the internet. It is very easy, there are manyfacebook groups on coworkinghttps://www.facebook.com/groups/coworkingeurope/doc/231235143607416/ or meetup groups http://coworking.meetup.com/all/ already. But the focus of these groups is largely local and limited by the functions that facebook or meetup offers. For free coworking to develop we need aninfrastructure that is owned and developed by the coworkers themselveshttp://www.coworking-news.de/2012/02/free-coworking-a-facebook-developed-run-and-owned-by-the-coworkers/. Fortunately we have already started a tool which we like to develop with everybody who feels that coworkers themselves should be more active in community building. The tool is the “Free Coworking Skill Sharinghttp://www.coworking-news.de/2012/02/free-car-sharing-for-skills-free-coworking-skill-sharing/“. With its latest development we particularly focussed on team buildinghttp://www.coworking-news.de/2012/03/team-building-by-skill-sharing-identify-your-key-style-of-thinking-in-a-team/,
Re: [Coworking] Free coworking stresses the importance of community building and social capital
Thanks Alex, and agreed on every point with one tiny caveat: mainstream media is going to always lean toward oversimplifying. So that will mean a continual struggle for coworking advocates to keep the message clean. We just need to do our parts to be clear and especially concise in everything we do, especially in interviews, press releases, etc. To that end, as I've noted before I recently started a digital magazine, http://post404.com http://post404.com , geared toward community and collaboration. Coworking will be a big part of our coverage. We will definitely do our part to help the signal-to-noise ratio. We welcome any and all contributions and in fact are hoping to add some full and occasional volunteer writers. If you ever need a podium, we'll be glad o provide it! That includes republishing original articles, in either direction. Randy Editor-in-Chief, post404 @texrat @post404_Mag on twitter On April 10, 2012 at 6:17 PM Alex Hillman dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for recognizing the change from most to many. That was intentional. As far as norms, I think the point (and perhaps the problem) is that they are changing. As more players enter the fray, and as the intentions and models diversify, the norms change and diversify as well. This itself isn't inherently a problem (in fact I think it's natural and important (http://dangerouslyawesome.com/2011/11/sex-coworking-and-rock-n-roll/)). Embracing that fragmentation helps us all get more done. What worries me, and you head in this direction as well Randall, is that the media often conflates all of the variations as one specific genre. Coworking as a pattern was developed with some very specific intentions. The core values helped crystallize those intentions into something shareable, moldable, adaptable. Coworking as a business doesn't have as clear of intentions. I think that's where we're running into confusion. But I still think that confusion lies more in the realm of the media and our inside-baseball conversations than in the heads of our members and potential members. Like music, people tend to avoid what they don't like. They also tend to use and share what they do like. That's good news for all of us. -Alex -- /ah indyhall.org coworking in philadelphia On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 at 5:50 PM, Randall G. Arnold wrote: At least Alex used the word MANY in his article instead of most (used earlier in the dialog); I suspect the latter to be hyperbolic. And not to axle-wrap over mere semantics, but I do wonder how many is MANY. I think that's actually important to the discussion, because I have to wonder what the NORM is. I also suspect that part of the distinction problem stems from those getting into this space without first understanding how and why they should separate their offerings from traditional establishments, as well as thinking through the pitfalls before opening up a coworking operation. But as was raised earlier, this isn't a black and white subject; coworking lives along a gradient of communal/corporate philosophy. There's room for all flavors, BUT operators do need to define their offerings clearly to customers IMO. Here is where my old military nomenclature experience rears its ugly head and wonders if qualifiers might help clear the confusion. Corporate Coworking vs Community Coworking, et al. Maybe my subconsious is reflexively overthinking it though. Anyway, it's also possible this is much ado about, ultimately, nothing. Still, the discussion has been (mostly) good, clean fun. :D Randy On April 10, 2012 at 4:41 PM Felix Schürholz calen...@coworking-news.de (mailto:calen...@coworking-news.de) wrote: link to article with video: http://bit.ly/HsRlKH Already one of the great fruits of the widespread discussion on free coworking is the acknowledgement that paid coworking has lost its bearings in many instances. Alex Hillman on his blog dangerouslyawesomehttp://dangerouslyawesome.com/2012/04/free-as-in-coworking/ puts it like this: “MANY paid coworking spaces aren’t differentiating themselves from business centers and aren’t keeping in line with the coworking core values. Social capital is often missing from the exchange between the provider and the member.” I fully agree with Alex!!! To address these aspects free coworking stresses the importance of shared/common projects of the coworkers, social capital and community building. In this article I like look particularly at the last two namely community building and social capital. Up to now community building in coworking spaces has largely if not exclusively been the task of the coworking space operator or manager. This is and was fine in a time where coworking was just starting up and developing. In Germany for example in 2009, when coworking started to spread across the country, many coworking operators felt
Re: [Coworking] Office Nomads Power Outlet Pole Thingys
On the subject of nomads and power outlets, my recent wry take on some irony: http://post404.com/2012/03/powering-down-mobile-power-users/ http://post404.com/2012/03/powering-down-mobile-power-users/ Randy On April 1, 2012 at 11:04 PM Toni Hogan t...@theofficeconnexion.com wrote: Office Nomads has some poles throughout the middle of their space with power outlet cluster at the bottom (see link for photo). I can't tell if they are home made or OEM (manufactured). Either way I need to know how to get 'em! :-) http://www.flickr.com/photos/20916143@N03/6964907393/lightbox/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Office Nomads Power Outlet Pole Thingys (follow-up)
Something I forgot to mention: at our little post404 venture we are VERY BIG on coworking, and have some general articles planned to cover the advent. We are also interested in doing profiles on particular spaces, so if you're interested, let me know! We'll just need a few photos (space, founders, users, etc) as well as some quotes (either voluntary or in response to questions). Looking forward to working with you all, Randy On April 2, 2012 at 12:22 PM Randall G. Arnold randall.arn...@texrat.net wrote: On the subject of nomads and power outlets, my recent wry take on some irony: http://post404.com/2012/03/powering-down-mobile-power-users/ http://post404.com/2012/03/powering-down-mobile-power-users/ Randy On April 1, 2012 at 11:04 PM Toni Hogan t...@theofficeconnexion.com wrote: Office Nomads has some poles throughout the middle of their space with power outlet cluster at the bottom (see link for photo). I can't tell if they are home made or OEM (manufactured). Either way I need to know how to get 'em! :-) http://www.flickr.com/photos/20916143@N03/6964907393/lightbox/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Size does matter!
OC, A large area need not necessarily preclude coziness. In fact my design for a coworking flagship building creates a lot of space, and is two storeys tall with a huge open lobby. Yet I still plan for intimate spaces. The way to attain a cozy atmosphere in such environs is easily accomplished with interior structures. In the sort of collaborative world we're envisioning, that's best done through modular means. Imagine sliding walls, moveable partitions, easily-rearranged furniture, etc. Even plants. But you don't even have to go too far. Just section off the area designated to be cozy. You're not limited to traditional grey cube walls, either-- there are numerous friendlier options (like low sections with windows, for instance). The choice of furnishings can help too. At events I've helped organize, bean bag chairs were located in remote parts of large halls or rooms and it's amazing what just something like that can do to make people *feel* cozy. The only consideration in cases like that is noise. Anyway, I'm sure with a little brainstorming you can come up with someting that suits the space in question! Randall (Randy) Arnold Developer and Enthusiast Advocate http://texrat.net +18177396806 On March 30, 2012 at 3:51 PM OC Houston t...@theofficeconnexion.com wrote: We went to look at a space today that's just over 13K square feet. The 11K square foot building is in negotiations. Anyway, I just couldn't get the feel of community as I walked through. Who has a space larger than 5,000 square feet and how do you make it feel cozy? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Headphone rules
Those are great rules, and nice artwork, but I sure wish earbuds were easier to spot from behind. Too many times I've inadvertantly interrupted someone because it was impossible to detect their earbuds at first, and in the case of phone conversations, they weren't talking at the time. :( Randy On March 30, 2012 at 5:16 PM Chad Ballantyne c...@thecreativespace.ca wrote: Inspired by Jerome from BlankSpaces (minus the f-bomb) If any one wants a high rez version to print - lemme know and we'll set it up. We intentionally left off our branding so ya'll could use it. We printed it 24.5 x 19.5 Peace! Chad Chad Ballantyne The Creative Space Director (705) 252-2423 www.thecreativespace.ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Free Coworking at the Public Library
response below On March 6, 2012 at 12:56 PM Felix Schürholz calen...@coworking-news.de wrote: link to article: http://bit.ly/zEArzC Article without links: I like to pick up the great ideas of Phil Shapiro (PC World) and SELC (Policies for a Shareable City #13: Public Libraries). Phil Shapiro suggests a very interesting “Free Coworking” model for public libraries which the SELC supports: “Do you work as a computer programmer, writer, editor, animator, or graphic designer? Would you like a free desk to do work at your public library? What’s the catch? The catch is that you need to contribute 10 or 20 percent of your time to serving the public in some way. You can either set aside time to answering the public’s questions or teach classes or work on public-oriented digital projects of various kinds. You might also mentor a youth or an adult. You might want to cowork at the public library just three days per week, in which case you need to contribute just 10 percent of your coworking time. If you cowork at the public library five days a week, you would need to contribute 20 percent of your time.” What do you think, how do you like this model? Anyone know of any libraries where this system is already in operation? If yes, please add to the “Free Coworking Directory“. If not, please talk to your local library! For more information on “Free Coworking”, please refer to our resource page. Essentially I think this is brilliant, even if it competes with my dream. ;) But I quibble with the percentage bit. No need to change from 10 to 20 just because the coworker puts in more hours. 10% of 3 days' work would typically be 2.4 hours; 10% of 5 days' work would be 4 hours so the coworker has definitely contributed more. And the odds are that if I only need to go there 3 days a week, I may well have more free time than the person going 5. Other than that minor disagreement, I like the library sharing idea overall. There would be other issues such as capacity (a big issue in my howmtown, where citizens battled over our library size and location), noise, etc but nothing insurmountable I don't think. Randall (Randy) Arnold Developer and Enthusiast Advocate http://texrat.net +18177396806 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Dallas coworking - any plans?
Ray, I haven't seen anything solid. But along those lines *my dream* would be to open a space in Keller, Southlake or Grapevine. The commuter traffic alone is strong justification... Anyway, I have plans, just no funds! Randall (Randy) Arnold On February 8, 2012 at 6:39 AM DallasIT_AgE1974 rayn...@gmail.com wrote: I have read several plans for new Dallas coworking spaces. Are any in the works or already opened and just havent made top search results? I would be very interested in at least creating a Meetup and seeing where we can take it. I agree with Alex from Indy Hall that community is first then space comes second so I am taking that approach. I even have a space that I think a deal could be worked out with as a group if we get enough interested parties. Let me know! Ray -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. Randall (Randy) Arnold Developer and Enthusiast Advocate http://texrat.net +18177396806 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Twitter Chat Interest
I would be interested, but what is the intended geographic scope of participants? Afternoon and evening are relative... maybe UTC time references are more useful? Also, a Google Plus hangout might be a good idea as well (not as an alternate, but an addition). Randall Arnold hopeful future coworking space creator On November 28, 2011 at 11:02 AM Andrea Cook andrea.gayle.c...@gmail.com wrote: I'm thinking about creating a bi-monthly #CoWorking Twitter chat. If you think this would be interesting to you, let us know by responding and telling us your time preference. (afternoon, evening) I would like to start scheduling specific cowork owners and participants for interviews starting in DEC. I have a few people in mind and will follow up individually, if you know of someone who would be resourceful, please feel free to share information and I will try to accomodate. Thanks! Andrea Cook The Midas Center Cowork Space * * *Supporter of the noble game changers and life enhancers through social media marketing. * *Also a pioneer, coach, editor, cowork owner and consultant for hire. Services vary, Live Event Correspondent services preferred. * The Midas Center LLC brands buzz coworking more 200 N Michigan Street, PO Box 1264, Plymouth, IN 46563 phone: 574-936-7058 cell: 574-933-3999 www.TheMidasCenter.com facebook / The Midas Center facebook / Cowork Space twitter / @andreacook @midascenter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. Randall (Randy) Arnold Developer and Enthusiast Advocate http://texrat.net +18177396806 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
