Re: [Coworking] Re: Sound control

2018-10-23 Thread Alex Hillman 
I shared a bunch of specific equipment recommendations in this previous
discussion thread
. The
microphones listed there make it so that unless your room is EXTREMELY
echo-y, they sound great. These shows have are all recorded on this gear to
get a sense of what they sound like:

- https://soundcloud.com/comicbookjunto
- http://www.hirespod.com/
- https://streetsdept.com/podcast/
- https://www.greenphillyblog.com/podcast/
- https://listen.coworkingweekly.com/
- https://stackingthebricks.com/podcast/

*DIY environment recommendations: *
- Carpet or carpet tiles on the floor are a definite must. That concrete
wall is going to be pretty reflective too, so if you can't cover it
entirely I'd look at options to cover it with another rug or fabric or even
homosote, which is pretty cheap and can have fabric stretched over it to
look nice.

- For the ceiling, this is a rare case where acoustic tiles (aka drop
ceiling) does a really nice job. I still hate the way they look but they
soak up a lot of echo.

None of this will be soundproof - but you don't need an iso booth for
podcasting. Just a comfortable room that doesn't echo like crazy.

I've also learned that airflow is also pretty important - with 1-2 people
talking in a room for 45mins+, it's going to get hot and stuffy fast. I've
recorded my shows in a closet (literally) with no fresh air. It's not fun.

Overall recommendation: based on my experiences, I'd worry less about
acoustic perfection for podcasts and making sure the space comfortable
(including ariflow, lighting, etc) especially when those microphones I
linked to will take care of 90% of the challenges in almost any space.

-Alex

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On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 2:44 PM AK  wrote:

> We want to add a podcast / recording room to our basement. Ideas welcome.
> we plan to drywall 3 walls leave one wall solid basement concrete. Then add
> carpet to the floor.  We have an open ceiling and wonder what to do about
> that. it's all wood above us and wood joists.  Do we panel that?
>
> I know directional (cardioid) microphones will help alot..but without
> going crazy...what can anyone suggest overall?
>
> Thank you
>
>
>
> On Thursday, September 24, 2015 at 9:59:02 AM UTC-5, Gretchen Bilbro wrote:
>>
>> We have a main room with a concrete floor and plaster walls with high
>> ceilings. The echo is so bad when you get more than five people in the
>> space. I know I have seen round 3D sound control ball type things that hang
>> from the ceiling in some spaces but am having trouble finding it online.
>> Any help?
>>
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[Coworking] Re: Sound control

2015-09-30 Thread Robert Petrusz 
We have some beautiful 60-year old pressed tin ceilings and almost 80 yr 
old wood floors. We love them, but our space was basically an echo chamber 
when we moved in. 

   - Angel's comments about area rugs and soft furniture and some canvas 
   art on the walls is right on. 
   - We've used Homasote for a couple of bulletin boards, too. We painted 
   it and have not had much chipping, but we only cut and spread out 2 4x8 
   slabs, so we might not have had enough to notice the chipping yet. 
   - The links people provided to the acoustic foam are helpful. I avoided 
   them for awhile because I could not find them that cheap. Instead I used 
   some carpet tiles 
   - Carpet tiles: Cheap 
   
!
 We 
   used them for our phone rooms to cover drywall. A great trick that our 
   carpenter discovered is to use a staple gun around the perimeter of each 
   tile to staple to the drywall. Ignorant of such things, I had originally 
   thought that we would have to use some noxious chemical to attach them to 
   the drywall. We left the corners exposed to add acoustic foam when we found 
   some on the cheap, but the sound improved so much that we have never done 
   it. 
   

On Tuesday, September 29, 2015 at 4:20:53 PM UTC-4, Angel Kwiatkowski wrote:
>
> Sound reflection is the hardest...I have a minor master's degree in 
> acoustics after setting up our shared rehearsal space: Cohere Bandwidth. 
> Our use is for rock bands so the construction of our space is super 
> specific and not at all helpful to what you need. However, these little 
> guys come in fun colors and are super affordable. About $31 per 3'x4' worth 
> of tiles. 
> http://www.amazon.com/2x12x12-CHARCOAL-Acoustic-Soundproofing-Studio/dp/B00ATPD9T0/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8=1443557641=8-4=acoustic+foam+panels
>
> You'd be aiming for about 30% coverage total over all your 
> walls/floors/ceilings. Giant area rugs are spectacular. Whatever you 
> do--don't paint acoustic sound panels. You destroy their effectiveness. Re: 
> the shedding that Alex experienced, you'll get that from "glass wool" or 
> fiberglass panels and that stuff's not fun to clean up and it can make you 
> itchy.
>
> I'd also check on a spray-on solution for your ceiling 
> http://www.sonaspray.com/ this product would completely mitigate any 
> sound reflection off your ceiling.
>
> Angel
>
> On Thursday, September 24, 2015 at 8:59:02 AM UTC-6, Gretchen Bilbro wrote:
>>
>> We have a main room with a concrete floor and plaster walls with high 
>> ceilings. The echo is so bad when you get more than five people in the 
>> space. I know I have seen round 3D sound control ball type things that hang 
>> from the ceiling in some spaces but am having trouble finding it online. 
>> Any help? 
>>
>

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[Coworking] Re: Sound control

2015-09-30 Thread Elizabeth Trice 
Our main room is 2,000 sf with concrete floors, lots of windows, and 14' 
ceilings. We have some acoustic "clouds" hanging from the ceiling, but it 
there were lots of echos when we started. Carpets, furniture, and bodies 
help. 
The big problem we had was that it was too quiet and the first phone call 
or conversation of the day would fill the whole space. Once there were 2-3 
conversations going it would be fine, but we couldn't ensure that and 
prospective tenants couldn't tell if they'd be comfortable making phone 
calls. We eventually bought a good white noise system: 
https://www.speechprivacysystems.com/. It cost about $2,000 and took 4 
hours to install. It was hard to justify the expense, but it was totally 
worth it. People need to feel comfortable to make phone calls and talk to 
each other or it just becomes a library environment. We took a secondary 
smaller space (1,500 sf) that was carpeted and made that into a "quiet 
zone". 

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[Coworking] Re: Sound control

2015-09-30 Thread Matt D. 
Hi Gretchen. 

I've got a guy up here in Nashville who makes relatively cheap sound 
paneling. He did some panels for us, and they worked quite well to muffle 
sound. Holler if you want a hookup. 




On Thursday, September 24, 2015 at 9:59:02 AM UTC-5, Gretchen Bilbro wrote:
>
> We have a main room with a concrete floor and plaster walls with high 
> ceilings. The echo is so bad when you get more than five people in the 
> space. I know I have seen round 3D sound control ball type things that hang 
> from the ceiling in some spaces but am having trouble finding it online. 
> Any help? 
>

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[Coworking] Re: Sound control

2015-09-29 Thread Angel Kwiatkowski 
Sound reflection is the hardest...I have a minor master's degree in 
acoustics after setting up our shared rehearsal space: Cohere Bandwidth. 
Our use is for rock bands so the construction of our space is super 
specific and not at all helpful to what you need. However, these little 
guys come in fun colors and are super affordable. About $31 per 3'x4' worth 
of 
tiles. 
http://www.amazon.com/2x12x12-CHARCOAL-Acoustic-Soundproofing-Studio/dp/B00ATPD9T0/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8=1443557641=8-4=acoustic+foam+panels

You'd be aiming for about 30% coverage total over all your 
walls/floors/ceilings. Giant area rugs are spectacular. Whatever you 
do--don't paint acoustic sound panels. You destroy their effectiveness. Re: 
the shedding that Alex experienced, you'll get that from "glass wool" or 
fiberglass panels and that stuff's not fun to clean up and it can make you 
itchy.

I'd also check on a spray-on solution for your 
ceiling http://www.sonaspray.com/ this product would completely mitigate 
any sound reflection off your ceiling.

Angel

On Thursday, September 24, 2015 at 8:59:02 AM UTC-6, Gretchen Bilbro wrote:
>
> We have a main room with a concrete floor and plaster walls with high 
> ceilings. The echo is so bad when you get more than five people in the 
> space. I know I have seen round 3D sound control ball type things that hang 
> from the ceiling in some spaces but am having trouble finding it online. 
> Any help? 
>

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