Re: [Coworking] Re: What does everyone use for checking users in?

[Jacob Sayles]

With all things it's about balance and striking the right balance between a
number of different factors.  At Office Nomads we do have members sign in,
using an iPad at the front that's hooked in to Nadine, our management
system.  We tie this with membership packages that don't do hourly, only
daily which means you don't need to sign out.

This creates an important touch point when members arrive.  It funnels
people to the front and slows them down just enough that we can catch them
if there is something we need to talk about.

In general, I'm not a fan of automating everything as it removes
opportunities to talk with members.  But of course it's about balance.
I've seen it work, only because other touch points were introduced and
emphasized such as around the coffee/printing areas, or with better team
mingling practices.

312 Main, up here in Vancouver, is going to be much larger
(understatement), with multiple points of entry/exit.   Scale shifts the
balance so we have a lot of work to do to make adjustments to what we've
learned over the years.

Jacob

On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 8:53 AM, Craig Baute - Creative Density Coworking <
baut...@gmail.com> wrote:

> We never use a check-in system because members don't like it. I find it to
> a barrier that reminds them that this is more of a tracation and ruins the
> flow of them just coming in, working, and thinking of it as their own
> space. I know there is a temptation to collect data as much as possible but
> reallly just noting busy day, average day, slow day will give you enough
> data to detect patterns. Don't over complicate it.
>
> If you want a door access system that is different. I'm becoming a fan of
> Proximity Space.
>
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Re: [Coworking] Re: What does everyone use for checking users in?

[Adrian Palacios]

Mark, there is a few alternatives listed 
here 
http://www.nexudus.com/en/blog/read/292950659/the-art-of-checking-members-in-and-out.
 
Specially network (WiFi/wired) check-in may be a good compromise. It 
obviously doesn't offer any of the security, but it is pretty easy to 
install. unobtrusive and it generally delivers good results and it is 
pretty accurate in telling you who and other members who is in and out of 
the space.


On Thursday, February 2, 2017 at 5:12:12 PM UTC, Alex Hillman wrote:
>
> For what it's worth, I've generally been extremely successful in asking 
> our landlords for all KINDS things, but getting them to be okay with 
> anything tied into building security has been a non-starter. I was pretty 
> keen keen to give KISI a go, and our building's security staff is 
> remarkably modern, but they're not keen on us tying a 3rd party system into 
> their system. 
>
> -Alex
>
>
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> On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 11:49 AM, Bernhard Mehl  > wrote:
>
>> Hey Tom, 
>>
>> That's amazing! If you are willing to share how you built the tap in/ out 
>> system, we'd love to host it on our commmunity board: 
>> http://community.getkisi.com/
>>
>> I'm sorry to hear that you feel you got too much information from us - 
>> it's just we launched tons of products recently and wanted to update 
>> everyone. Maybe too much in that case.
>>
>> Also in your case, sorry to hear that we missed your email. If you are 
>> still interested would love to get back in touch! January has been crazy in 
>> terms of growth for us as we service worldwide now. If you are still 
>> interested, would love to chat - even if it's just to hear how you like 
>> your check in / check out build. 
>>
>> @Mark: Normally coworking spaces don't have to ask property management 
>> companies, they tell them what to do. You guys are the modern facility 
>> managers (from their point of view) and normally they are keen on adopting 
>> new tech that coworking spaces use every day. Now in security that's 
>> sometimes a bit hairy mostly because a) they don't know how SaaS software 
>> works, b) they don't have an IT department and c) they are scared that 
>> anyone finds out how bad their current security system is.
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 1, 2017 at 8:45:40 AM UTC-5, Tom Lewis wrote:
>>>
>>> We use Nexudus coworking management software and have built a homebrew 
>>> tap in/out system using a couple of cheap 10" wall mounted monitors, stick 
>>> PCs and proximity touch pads that reads our access passes, connected to 
>>> Nexudus via their check in software.
>>>
>>> It works, just.  We have a ton of problems with people not checking in 
>>> or out properly, partly because Nexudus doesn't store any credentials 
>>> locally so there can be a delay in accepting a checkin/out, which confused 
>>> people so they try again.  
>>>
>>> We want to try Kisi, but despite their absolute relentless email 
>>> spamming/marketing, when I actually replied back to them saying we'd like 
>>> to give it a go, they've ignored my email!
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, 31 January 2017 18:13:11 UTC, Mark Gordon wrote:

 Our property managers arent keen on Kisi (or anything that taps into 
 base building security) so just curious what others have done, short of 
 having someone physically sit there and check people in. This is more of a 
 concern for the day pass users as opposed to full monthly, as it would be 
 great to have an automated system.

 Thanks!


 Mark

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Re: [Coworking] Re: What does everyone use for checking users in?

[Alex Hillman]

For what it's worth, I've generally been extremely successful in asking our
landlords for all KINDS things, but getting them to be okay with anything
tied into building security has been a non-starter. I was pretty keen keen
to give KISI a go, and our building's security staff is remarkably modern,
but they're not keen on us tying a 3rd party system into their system.

-Alex


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On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 11:49 AM, Bernhard Mehl  wrote:

> Hey Tom,
>
> That's amazing! If you are willing to share how you built the tap in/ out
> system, we'd love to host it on our commmunity board: http://community.
> getkisi.com/
>
> I'm sorry to hear that you feel you got too much information from us -
> it's just we launched tons of products recently and wanted to update
> everyone. Maybe too much in that case.
>
> Also in your case, sorry to hear that we missed your email. If you are
> still interested would love to get back in touch! January has been crazy in
> terms of growth for us as we service worldwide now. If you are still
> interested, would love to chat - even if it's just to hear how you like
> your check in / check out build.
>
> @Mark: Normally coworking spaces don't have to ask property management
> companies, they tell them what to do. You guys are the modern facility
> managers (from their point of view) and normally they are keen on adopting
> new tech that coworking spaces use every day. Now in security that's
> sometimes a bit hairy mostly because a) they don't know how SaaS software
> works, b) they don't have an IT department and c) they are scared that
> anyone finds out how bad their current security system is.
>
>
> On Wednesday, February 1, 2017 at 8:45:40 AM UTC-5, Tom Lewis wrote:
>>
>> We use Nexudus coworking management software and have built a homebrew
>> tap in/out system using a couple of cheap 10" wall mounted monitors, stick
>> PCs and proximity touch pads that reads our access passes, connected to
>> Nexudus via their check in software.
>>
>> It works, just.  We have a ton of problems with people not checking in or
>> out properly, partly because Nexudus doesn't store any credentials locally
>> so there can be a delay in accepting a checkin/out, which confused people
>> so they try again.
>>
>> We want to try Kisi, but despite their absolute relentless email
>> spamming/marketing, when I actually replied back to them saying we'd like
>> to give it a go, they've ignored my email!
>>
>> On Tuesday, 31 January 2017 18:13:11 UTC, Mark Gordon wrote:
>>>
>>> Our property managers arent keen on Kisi (or anything that taps into
>>> base building security) so just curious what others have done, short of
>>> having someone physically sit there and check people in. This is more of a
>>> concern for the day pass users as opposed to full monthly, as it would be
>>> great to have an automated system.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
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