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Re: The Mirror - Sensitive laptop left in taxi
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Re: hello, I would like to learn how to hack a bit
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Re: anarchy and your opinions
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cypherpunks [there is no movement] lose out to fear of crime?
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Re: The Spy Who Lost Me - GB laptop losses
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automated detection of steganographic content in images (fwd)
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RE: Making the Agora Vanish | OSINT distributed haven (Intellagora)
At 08:59 PM 4/16/01 -0500, Jim Choate wrote: On Mon, 16 Apr 2001, David Honig wrote: At 02:06 PM 4/15/01 -0700, Ray Dillinger wrote: regard to contract enforcement. There has to be a hook where someone who does a ripoff can be punished, or else there is no deal. In infospace, there is only reputation, not meat and bones, that can be damaged. Tell that to the insulin pump or the aircraft auto-pilot... What a naive view of 'bits'. We're not talking about life-critical apps.
RE: Making the Agora Vanish | OSINT distributed haven (Intellagora)
At 09:12 PM 4/16/01 -0500, Jim Choate wrote: If the party were truly anonymous there would be no way to identify them to a third party in order to pass the 'reputation capital' along. There would have to be a 'persistent nym', not an anonymous one. Persistent, untraceable nym. Both. Untraceables without persistance are useful mostly for email. Persistent untraceable, that's part of the Realization.
RE: Making the Agora Vanish | OSINT distributed haven (Intellagora)
On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, David Honig wrote: At 08:59 PM 4/16/01 -0500, Jim Choate wrote: On Mon, 16 Apr 2001, David Honig wrote: At 02:06 PM 4/15/01 -0700, Ray Dillinger wrote: regard to contract enforcement. There has to be a hook where someone who does a ripoff can be punished, or else there is no deal. In infospace, there is only reputation, not meat and bones, that can be damaged. Tell that to the insulin pump or the aircraft auto-pilot... What a naive view of 'bits'. We're not talking about life-critical apps. And why not, they certainly aren't excluded by your earlier commentary above. Is your contention that crypto-anarchy only works in non-life-critical apps? Somehow I doubt that. The ultimate authority...resides in the people alone. James Madison The Armadillo Group ,::;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'/ ``::/|/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ssz.com.', `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -~~mm-'`-```-mm --'-
RE: Making the Agora Vanish | OSINT distributed haven (Intellagora)
On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, David Honig wrote: Persistent, untraceable nym. Both. Untraceables without persistance are useful mostly for email. Persistent untraceable, that's part of the Realization. Well, part of it, probably. The point being there are many 'kinds' of 'anonymity'. They are not(!) all equivalent. If there is no 'persistance' the requirement that it be 'untraceable' is moot, unless you plan on coming back (very bad idea to ever visit the same place twice, or stay in the same place more than 24 hours). The ultimate authority...resides in the people alone. James Madison The Armadillo Group ,::;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'/ ``::/|/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ssz.com.', `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -~~mm-'`-```-mm --'-
Re: making the agora vanish
On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, David Honig wrote: But you don't have to employ any reputation service, in fact none at all, if you like. That's the difference. The librarians of reputation do not force you to consume their product. Ok, let's assume for a moment that we do the exchange anonymously. Isn't the anonymizing agent itself a 'reputation service' in that it's reputation capital is 'anonymity'? The ultimate authority...resides in the people alone. James Madison The Armadillo Group ,::;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'/ ``::/|/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ssz.com.', `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -~~mm-'`-```-mm --'-
Re: Making the Agora Vanish | OSINT distributed haven (Intellagora)
On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 06:09:38PM -0700, David Honig wrote: Untraceables without persistance are useful mostly for email. Persistent untraceable, that's part of the Realization. Is that part of the Singularity? :) -Declan
RE: Making the Agora Vanish | OSINT distributed haven (Intellagora)
At 08:45 PM 4/17/01 -0500, Jim Choate wrote: On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, David Honig wrote: Persistent, untraceable nym. Both. Untraceables without persistance are useful mostly for email. Persistent untraceable, that's part of the Realization. Well, part of it, probably. The point being there are many 'kinds' of 'anonymity'. They are not(!) all equivalent. Yes that is one of the things you can actually learn from this group if your receiver can handle the S/N ratio. If there is no 'persistance' the requirement that it be 'untraceable' is moot, unless you plan on coming back (very bad idea to ever visit the same place twice, or stay in the same place more than 24 hours). If you have a non-persistant but traceable nym, what's the point? Suppose you use a one-time email account to threaten the president, but the message is traceable to your carcass (e.g., the internet cafe had surveillance cameras). You may as well use your Meat Name; its gonna hit the papers anyway. On the other hand, a non-persistant and untraceable nym is good for threatening the president, but not useful for reputation building. A persistant but untraceable nym is good for commerce. All are possible. All are useful. Ergo, all will come about, whether you like it or not.
Re: making the agora vanish
At 09:05 PM 4/17/01 -0500, Jim Choate wrote: Isn't the anonymizing agent itself a 'reputation service' in that it's reputation capital is 'anonymity'? Completely orthogonal to the reputations (or lack thereof) of its clients, yes, a so-called anonymizer has a reputation, actually, several (e.g., uptime; resistance to subpeonae; mean time to handle user gripes; etc). And the point is?
Re: making the agora vanish
On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, David Honig wrote: At 09:05 PM 4/17/01 -0500, Jim Choate wrote: Isn't the anonymizing agent itself a 'reputation service' in that it's reputation capital is 'anonymity'? Completely orthogonal to the reputations (or lack thereof) of its clients, No, because if the anonymizer fails the clients are screwed. yes, a so-called anonymizer has a reputation, actually, several (e.g., uptime; resistance to subpeonae; mean time to handle user gripes; etc). And the point is? What if it's not anonymous. What if it's selectively anonymous? What if it's cracked? The ultimate authority...resides in the people alone. James Madison The Armadillo Group ,::;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'/ ``::/|/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ssz.com.', `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -~~mm-'`-```-mm --'-
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