Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] DLTK in Luna RC4

2014-06-13 Thread Wayne Beaton 
The PMC has approved the review materials, and the IP Team has approved 
the IP Log. With regard to the EDP, DLTK 5.1 is good-to-go.


I will update http://projects.eclipse.org/releases/luna to indicate that 
DLTK 5.0 is included in Luna.


I'll leave it to the project, PMC, and Planning Council to determine 
what we're going to do for SR-1.


Wayne

On 06/13/2014 10:37 AM, David M Williams wrote:
I take this as "things are fine, as they are in staging". Not sure how 
this effects "release reviews", Wayne, but what is in staging now, is 
the same thing that was in Kepler SR2 (i.e. already released).


At least, going by feature names/versions and bundle names/versions. 
The following are the feature names/versions:


org.eclipse.dltk.core_5.0.0.201306060709.jar
org.eclipse.dltk.core.index_5.0.0.201306060709.jar
org.eclipse.dltk.itcl_5.0.0.201306060709.jar
org.eclipse.dltk.rse_5.0.0.201306060709.jar
org.eclipse.dltk.ruby_5.0.0.201306060709.jar
org.eclipse.dltk.tcl_5.0.0.201306060709.jar
org.eclipse.dltk.xotcl_5.0.0.201306060709.jar

I'll also note that in the 5.1 "contribution attempt" there's an error 
that invalidates the aggregation build ... something about a feature 
missing that is named in some category.


It seems clear we should go with what we have, for Luna, and if the 
DLTK project wants to do something else for Luna SR1, they need to 
actively work with the "Simultaneous Release" projects that make use 
of them, and participate on a regular, predictable basis, so adequate 
testing, etc. can be done. I also suspect (though, know nothing of 
details) that if there have been "bug fixes only" that "5.0.1" would 
be more appropriate for Luna SR1, and if there are new features or 
APIs, that Mars would be more appropriate.


There may be many other questions about the viability of the DLTK 
project as a whole (given lack of activity and communication) but, I 
think for Luna, we know what to do.


I will plan on reverting the commit in Luna, just to be clear on our 
plans for Luna, and opened *_Bug 437381_* 
<https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=437381> to track that.


If DLTK project wants to participate in Luna SR1 or Mars, they will be 
expected to be more active, timely, and communicative.






From: Simon Bernard 
To: Cross project issues ,
Date: 06/13/2014 05:28 AM
Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] DLTK in Luna RC4
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LDT (Koneki) depends on DLTK.

We never test it on DLTK 5.1. (We never found a repository to test it, 
it seems available since June 11th or 12th)


There no problem for us to go with DLTK 5.0. It seems more reasonable.

Some threads to show we try to avoid that :
- _https://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/dltk-dev/msg02317.html_
- 
_https://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/cross-project-issues-dev/msg10499.html_

- _https://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/dltk-dev/msg02324.html_


Le 12/06/2014 21:31, Wayne Beaton a écrit :
Greetings folks.

We noticed that DTLK updated their aggregation file only just this 
week to point at their 5.1 bits. Too late, I'm afraid to make it into 
the RC4 build (which currently includes their 2013 "5.0" bits) and EPP 
packages.


Which Luna projects consume DLTK? (PDT and who else?)

Have you been testing on DLTK 5.1?

Are you good-to-go with DTLK 5.0?

What are our options?

Wayne
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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] DLTK in Luna RC4

2014-06-13 Thread David M Williams 
I take this as "things are fine, as they are in staging". Not sure how 
this effects "release reviews", Wayne, but what is in staging now, is the 
same thing that was in Kepler SR2 (i.e. already released). 

At least, going by feature names/versions and bundle names/versions. The 
following are the feature names/versions: 

org.eclipse.dltk.core_5.0.0.201306060709.jar
org.eclipse.dltk.core.index_5.0.0.201306060709.jar
org.eclipse.dltk.itcl_5.0.0.201306060709.jar
org.eclipse.dltk.rse_5.0.0.201306060709.jar
org.eclipse.dltk.ruby_5.0.0.201306060709.jar
org.eclipse.dltk.tcl_5.0.0.201306060709.jar
org.eclipse.dltk.xotcl_5.0.0.201306060709.jar

I'll also note that in the 5.1 "contribution attempt" there's an error 
that invalidates the aggregation build ... something about a feature 
missing that is named in some category. 

It seems clear we should go with what we have, for Luna, and if the DLTK 
project wants to do something else for Luna SR1, they need to actively 
work with the "Simultaneous Release" projects that make use of them, and 
participate on a regular, predictable basis, so adequate testing, etc. can 
be done. I also suspect (though, know nothing of details) that if there 
have been "bug fixes only" that "5.0.1" would be more appropriate for Luna 
SR1, and if there are new features or APIs, that Mars would be more 
appropriate. 

There may be many other questions about the viability of the DLTK project 
as a whole (given lack of activity and communication) but, I think for 
Luna, we know what to do. 

I will plan on reverting the commit in Luna, just to be clear on our plans 
for Luna, and opened Bug 437381  to track that. 

If DLTK project wants to participate in Luna SR1 or Mars, they will be 
expected to be more active, timely, and communicative. 
 




From:   Simon Bernard 
To: Cross project issues , 
Date:   06/13/2014 05:28 AM
Subject:Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] DLTK in Luna RC4
Sent by:cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org



LDT (Koneki) depends on DLTK.

We never test it on DLTK 5.1. (We never found a repository to test it, it 
seems available since June 11th or 12th)

There no problem for us to go with DLTK 5.0. It seems more reasonable.

Some threads to show we try to avoid that : 
- https://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/dltk-dev/msg02317.html
- 
https://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/cross-project-issues-dev/msg10499.html

- https://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/dltk-dev/msg02324.html


Le 12/06/2014 21:31, Wayne Beaton a écrit :
Greetings folks.

We noticed that DTLK updated their aggregation file only just this week to 
point at their 5.1 bits. Too late, I'm afraid to make it into the RC4 
build (which currently includes their 2013 "5.0" bits) and EPP packages.

Which Luna projects consume DLTK? (PDT and who else?)

Have you been testing on DLTK 5.1?

Are you good-to-go with DTLK 5.0?

What are our options?

Wayne
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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] DLTK in Luna RC4

2014-06-13 Thread Simon Bernard 

LDT (Koneki) depends on DLTK.

We never test it on DLTK 5.1. (We never found a repository to test it, 
it seems available since June 11th or 12th)


There no problem for us to go with DLTK 5.0. It seems more reasonable.

Some threads to show we try to avoid that :
- https://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/dltk-dev/msg02317.html
- 
https://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/cross-project-issues-dev/msg10499.html

- https://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/dltk-dev/msg02324.html


Le 12/06/2014 21:31, Wayne Beaton a écrit :

Greetings folks.

We noticed that DTLK updated their aggregation file only just this 
week to point at their 5.1 bits. Too late, I'm afraid to make it into 
the RC4 build (which currently includes their 2013 "5.0" bits) and EPP 
packages.


Which Luna projects consume DLTK? (PDT and who else?)

Have you been testing on DLTK 5.1?

Are you good-to-go with DTLK 5.0?

What are our options?

Wayne
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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] DLTK in Luna RC4

2014-06-12 Thread Benjamin Cabé 
Adding Koneki to the thread to make sure this gets noticed – I strongly suspect 
LDT might be impacted too

Benjamin

Le 12 juin 2014 à 21:31, Wayne Beaton  a écrit :

> Greetings folks.
> 
> We noticed that DTLK updated their aggregation file only just this week to 
> point at their 5.1 bits. Too late, I'm afraid to make it into the RC4 build 
> (which currently includes their 2013 "5.0" bits) and EPP packages.
> 
> Which Luna projects consume DLTK? (PDT and who else?)
> 
> Have you been testing on DLTK 5.1?
> 
> Are you good-to-go with DTLK 5.0?
> 
> What are our options?
> 
> Wayne
> -- 
> Wayne Beaton
> Director of Open Source Projects, The Eclipse Foundation
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[cross-project-issues-dev] DLTK in Luna RC4

2014-06-12 Thread Wayne Beaton 

Greetings folks.

We noticed that DTLK updated their aggregation file only just this week 
to point at their 5.1 bits. Too late, I'm afraid to make it into the RC4 
build (which currently includes their 2013 "5.0" bits) and EPP packages.


Which Luna projects consume DLTK? (PDT and who else?)

Have you been testing on DLTK 5.1?

Are you good-to-go with DTLK 5.0?

What are our options?

Wayne
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