Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Respin of SimRel Repository required

2016-06-16 Thread Ed Willink 

Hi David

I'm confused. Why is "not be allowed to update" expected and what is the 
"previous EPP"?


I thought that we were trying to ensure that update works.

I can understand that a Neon RC4 to RC4a update might be undersirable 
due to evictions and UUID policies, but surely everything else should 
work? Chuck out all old plugins incompatible with the new, or in 
features replaced by the new,  then go. I have observed that this often 
fails when e.g upgrading Xtext without uninstalling all downstream 
dependencies first, P2 does not allow the required multiple update from 
ZIP needed to resolve this preferring to report a plethora of 
ambiguities from stale update sites contributed by projects. But for a 
SimRel upgrade, all the replacements should be there, so surely replace 
and evict should just work?


Regards

Ed Willink

On 16/06/2016 00:13, David M Williams wrote:
My apologies for not communicating more quickly the information back 
to this list. Entirely my oversight.


The final EPP packages themselves are available from:

_https://hudson.eclipse.org/packaging/job/neon.epp-tycho-build/388/artifact/org.eclipse.epp.packages/archive/_

If anyone wants to try an "update scenario you should use the 
following two repositories. (And have only them enabled.)


But, remember, the main "test result" ... at least from previous EPP 
installations ... is that you should "not be allowed to update". If 
you were, the new installation would be broken since there was such a 
large change in structure from previous (Mars) version of EPP packages.


_http://download.eclipse.org/technology/epp/packages/neon/RC4/_and
_http://download.eclipse.org/staging/neon/_

Assuming no "catches the machine on fire" type bugs these will become 
our Neon release on 6/22.


Thanks,





From: Matthias Sohn <matthias.s...@gmail.com>
To: Cross project issues <cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org>,
Date: 06/15/2016 06:05 PM
Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Respin of SimRel Repository 
required

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any update on the current status of the repository and availability of 
packages for testing ?


On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 6:07 PM, David M Williams 
<_david_willi...@us.ibm.com_ <mailto:david_willi...@us.ibm.com>> wrote:

Extended team,

I am beginning a re-spin of the Sim. Release repository.

Two major changes: SOA-BPN2 modeler removed and Window Builder removed.

The former removed because they didn't finish the normal release 
requirements. The later was removed because it has not been tested 
with the Neon candidate release. (It did recently, after RC4, get a 
build which "removed one line of code" which prevented it from running 
on Neon ... but, our goal is not for projects to "join at the last 
minute" but to be part of the train for many milestones so it can be 
adequately tested).


It is my understanding both projects plan to "rejoin the train" in the 
September release.


A minor change: Linux Tools found a major memory leak which would 
normally not be "respin worthy", but I told them if we had to respin 
for other reasons they could include a fix for that.


The EPP packages will need to be rebuilt of course -- first because 
they always are if the repository changes, but more so this time 
because Window Builder was included in two EPP packages and of course 
will have to be removed from those packages.


I will update this list once both steps are complete.

Thanks,




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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Respin of SimRel Repository required

2016-06-15 Thread David M Williams 
My apologies for not communicating more quickly the information back to 
this list. Entirely my oversight. 

The final EPP packages themselves are available from: 

  
https://hudson.eclipse.org/packaging/job/neon.epp-tycho-build/388/artifact/org.eclipse.epp.packages/archive/


If anyone wants to try an "update scenario you should use the following 
two repositories. (And have only them enabled.) 

But, remember, the main "test result" ... at least from previous EPP 
installations ... is that you should "not be allowed to update". If you 
were, the new installation would be broken since there was such a large 
change in structure from previous (Mars) version of EPP packages. 

  http://download.eclipse.org/technology/epp/packages/neon/RC4/ and
  http://download.eclipse.org/staging/neon/

Assuming no "catches the machine on fire" type bugs these will become our 
Neon release on 6/22. 

Thanks, 





From:   Matthias Sohn <matthias.s...@gmail.com>
To: Cross project issues <cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org>, 
Date:   06/15/2016 06:05 PM
Subject:    Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Respin of SimRel Repository 
required
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any update on the current status of the repository and availability of 
packages for testing ?

On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 6:07 PM, David M Williams <
david_willi...@us.ibm.com> wrote:
Extended team, 

I am beginning a re-spin of the Sim. Release repository. 

Two major changes: SOA-BPN2 modeler removed and Window Builder removed. 

The former removed because they didn't finish the normal release 
requirements. The later was removed because it has not been tested with 
the Neon candidate release. (It did recently, after RC4, get a build which 
"removed one line of code" which prevented it from running on Neon ... 
but, our goal is not for projects to "join at the last minute" but to be 
part of the train for many milestones so it can be adequately tested). 

It is my understanding both projects plan to "rejoin the train" in the 
September release. 

A minor change: Linux Tools found a major memory leak which would normally 
not be "respin worthy", but I told them if we had to respin for other 
reasons they could include a fix for that. 

The EPP packages will need to be rebuilt of course -- first because they 
always are if the repository changes, but more so this time because Window 
Builder was included in two EPP packages and of course will have to be 
removed from those packages. 

I will update this list once both steps are complete. 

Thanks, 




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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Respin of SimRel Repository required

2016-06-15 Thread Matthias Sohn 
any update on the current status of the repository and availability of
packages for testing ?

On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 6:07 PM, David M Williams  wrote:

> Extended team,
>
> I am beginning a re-spin of the Sim. Release repository.
>
> Two major changes: SOA-BPN2 modeler removed and Window Builder removed.
>
> The former removed because they didn't finish the normal release
> requirements. The later was removed because it has not been tested with the
> Neon candidate release. (It did recently, after RC4, get a build which
> "removed one line of code" which prevented it from running on Neon ... but,
> our goal is not for projects to "join at the last minute" but to be part of
> the train for many milestones so it can be adequately tested).
>
> It is my understanding both projects plan to "rejoin the train" in the
> September release.
>
> A minor change: Linux Tools found a major memory leak which would normally
> not be "respin worthy", but I told them if we had to respin for other
> reasons they could include a fix for that.
>
> The EPP packages will need to be rebuilt of course -- first because they
> always are if the repository changes, but more so this time because Window
> Builder was included in two EPP packages and of course will have to be
> removed from those packages.
>
> I will update this list once both steps are complete.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
>
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[cross-project-issues-dev] Respin of SimRel Repository required

2016-06-13 Thread David M Williams 
Extended team, 

I am beginning a re-spin of the Sim. Release repository. 

Two major changes: SOA-BPN2 modeler removed and Window Builder removed. 

The former removed because they didn't finish the normal release 
requirements. The later was removed because it has not been tested with 
the Neon candidate release. (It did recently, after RC4, get a build which 
"removed one line of code" which prevented it from running on Neon ... 
but, our goal is not for projects to "join at the last minute" but to be 
part of the train for many milestones so it can be adequately tested). 

It is my understanding both projects plan to "rejoin the train" in the 
September release. 

A minor change: Linux Tools found a major memory leak which would normally 
not be "respin worthy", but I told them if we had to respin for other 
reasons they could include a fix for that. 

The EPP packages will need to be rebuilt of course -- first because they 
always are if the repository changes, but more so this time because Window 
Builder was included in two EPP packages and of course will have to be 
removed from those packages. 

I will update this list once both steps are complete. 

Thanks, 




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