Re: [Csgo_servers] CS2 dedicated servernotes?

[Vi]

You're...correct. I apologize on that aspect. I do not know much about 
dota and completely forgot about the whole ordeal between dota s1 and 
dota s2. nonetheless, i still wouldnt think they would do that again, 
because unlike dota, cs has a history of things like community servers 
(im sure dota does too, but i dont know how those work unlike how all 
the others do, so i will not act like i do) that would be affected by 
such a change, thus, id presume theyd try and aleast mitigate some of 
the downfalls, even if, god forbid, it ends up like how csgo demo viewer 
is (a branch of the main game, that is unmaintained and forgotten, but 
aleast with some sort of multiplayer, since the version of the csgo 
SRCDS would still be avaliable in some aspect, and not lost media) .

i understand your worries. try and keep hopes up.

On 2023-09-09 12:34 am, Cheriny - i at qingly.me (via csgo_servers list) 
wrote:


Didn't the Reborn update for Dota 2 overwrite an older version of Dota 2?

在 2023/9/9 10:38, Vi 写道:


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Re: [Csgo_servers] CS2 dedicated servernotes?

[Vi]

This is unlikely from valve. For example, when artifact tried having a 
remake to improve the game, they instead split the game into two apps, 
where both includes each other. This is more likely than a full 
delisting, and would make sense with the track record that Valve has. 
Valve is not one to pull a service offline, even if it ends up being 
abandoned. If you have a source of otherwise, please share. Otherwise, 
hoping for the worst like that is not the best situation.


On 2023-09-07 09:47 am, Cheriny - i at qingly.me (via csgo_servers list) 
wrote:
keeping the old version of the game would be detrimental to the new game. 

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Re: [Csgo_servers] CS2 dedicated servernotes?

[Vi]

I do think a lack of communication is what is causing it. Its very 
unlikely valve will actually remove the game altogether, but we still do 
not know what their plan for the future  of csgo is (migration to a new 
appid? make it a branch like demo viewer csgo? will matchmaking be shot 
down (very unlikely, artifact still has MM servers!)?) still, it 
shouldn't be the biggest worry, since the original deadline of "summer" 
is already long passed, and so at this point i hope that it takes /even 
more time /for the game to finish. its a lot of work for a company built 
like valve, and rushing it is never a good option.


As for cs2 community servers, i don't know exactly having them up will 
benefit, considering there's no browser server, and things like 
lua-vscript and workshop submitted cs2 maps arent finalized.


Patience pays off. Pray for the best.

On 2023-09-05 11:51 pm, Liam Hogan wrote:


I don't know why people think it's going to be retired all-together


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Re: [Csgo_servers] AArch64 Architecture for CS:GO Server

[Vi]

Its showing progress, the normal release schedule shows that csgo gets a 
major update once a year, and since its getting close to when its 
released, and with the (known) observations of it working under s2, id 
say give it until then. Otherwise, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯, it happens when it happens


On 2022-11-07 07:06 em, Global Offensive wrote:

We are waiting source 2 for 7 years

On Tue, Nov 8, 2022, 01:05 Cristian Sanchez  wrote:

Source 2 is 64bit, so once CSGO is updated to the new engine.

On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 7:31 AM Steve Dudenhoeffer
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csgo servers are still 32bit, i wouldn't hold your breath

> On Nov 7, 2022, at 12:26 PM, wordlesswind - i at qingly.me
 (via csgo_servers list)
 wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I was wondering if Valve would be interested in releasing an
AArch64 architecture version for Steam, SteamCMD, the CS:GO
client and the CS:GO server.
>
> On the user side, MAC devices with Apple Silicon SoCs and
Windows on ARM with Qualcomm SoCs are in active development.
In particular, Apple has introduced the Metal 3 API in an
attempt to improve the general image computing capabilities of
MAC devices. While I'm disgusted by Apple's lack of Vulkan
support, MoltenVK makes the situation a little less ugly.
>
> In the cloud, Oracle Cloud, Alibaba Cloud and Huawei Cloud
have all launched VPS with AArch64 architecture.
>
> The AArch64 ecosystem is getting better and better, and I
hope that Valve is paying attention to it as well.
>
> Best regards,
> wordlesswind
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Re: [Csgo_servers] Need to buy CS:GO Prime Status Upgrade to get a login token for sv_setsteamaccount?

[Vi]

every subscription "package" is listed on steamdb, 
https://steamdb.info/app/730/subs/ , and they each have different depot 
that it gives access to. it looks like you might've either owned 
https://steamdb.info/sub/125313/apps/ , which also for some reason gives 
you access to https://steamdb.info/app/624820/ , which seems related.


On 2022-09-12 18:25 em, Weasel [Saphe.Space] wrote:

Yeah, really hoping for an official response from Valve.
The weird thing is, the older Steam account that I had been hosting 
CS:GO with (using sv_setsteamaccount tokens generated by that account) 
worked for years, and does NOT own the "Buy CS:GO Prime Status Upgrade".


On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 2:54 PM Vi  wrote:

This is most likely a mix between security (I believe every
[server] operator has to own prime, which makes sense when making
accounts is like candy and the game is targetted by exploiters),
and the way steam works (the license you get from hitting the
"install game" button on the f2p page is not the same license that
you get from old buys/new prime upgrades, and does exclude access
to sdk+server+etc. See: the apps the license for csgo free gives:
https://steamdb.info/sub/303386/apps/ and the apps for the license
for prime upgrade csgo: https://steamdb.info/sub/54029/apps/ ), it
could be intentional, or accidental, but I'd lean towards
intentional. It makes sense, since it shows the owner is more
trustworthy, I guess.

TL;DR security reasons.

On 2022-09-12 17:32 em, Weasel [Saphe.Space] wrote:

  Encountered this interesting issue today.
I am in the process of moving over my sv_setsteamaccount stuff to
a different Steam account.
On the new account, I am hosting several games, including:

  * Team Fortress 2 (appid 440)
  * Counter-Strike:Source (appid 240)
  * Counter-Strike:Global Offensive (appid 730)

Using the manageme game servers page
(https://steamcommunity.com/dev/managegameservers), I started
generating "login tokens" for each game-server instance.

For TF2 (which IS free-to-play) I just punched-in appid 440 and
note, and everything worked exactly as expected.

For CS:S (which is NOT free-to-play), it failed because that new
Steam account did not "own the game".  Since CS:S: is NOT
free-to-play, this was expected.  I went to the Steam store
(logged-in as this new Steam account) and bought it 9 (~US$10).
Afterwards, I was able to generate login tokens for my CS:S
servers using appid 240.

For CS:GO (which IS free-to-play), it FAILED because that new
Steam account did not "own the game"?  In order to get it to
work, I had to go to the Steam store (logged-in as this new Steam
account) and buy the "CS:GO Prime Status Upgrade" - even though
the game is "free-to-play"?  It's only about ~US$15, but still -
why do I have to pay to host a game-server for a "free-to-play" game?

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Re: [Csgo_servers] Need to buy CS:GO Prime Status Upgrade to get a login token for sv_setsteamaccount?

[Vi]

This is most likely a mix between security (I believe every [server] 
operator has to own prime, which makes sense when making accounts is 
like candy and the game is targetted by exploiters), and the way steam 
works (the license you get from hitting the "install game" button on the 
f2p page is not the same license that you get from old buys/new prime 
upgrades, and does exclude access to sdk+server+etc. See: the apps the 
license for csgo free gives: https://steamdb.info/sub/303386/apps/ and 
the apps for the license for prime upgrade csgo: 
https://steamdb.info/sub/54029/apps/ ), it could be intentional, or 
accidental, but I'd lean towards intentional. It makes sense, since it 
shows the owner is more trustworthy, I guess.


TL;DR security reasons.

On 2022-09-12 17:32 em, Weasel [Saphe.Space] wrote:

  Encountered this interesting issue today.
I am in the process of moving over my sv_setsteamaccount stuff to a 
different Steam account.

On the new account, I am hosting several games, including:

  * Team Fortress 2 (appid 440)
  * Counter-Strike:Source (appid 240)
  * Counter-Strike:Global Offensive (appid 730)

Using the manageme game servers page 
(https://steamcommunity.com/dev/managegameservers), I started 
generating "login tokens" for each game-server instance.


For TF2 (which IS free-to-play) I just punched-in appid 440 and note, 
and everything worked exactly as expected.


For CS:S (which is NOT free-to-play), it failed because that new Steam 
account did not "own the game".  Since CS:S: is NOT free-to-play, this 
was expected.  I went to the Steam store (logged-in as this new Steam 
account) and bought it 9 (~US$10).  Afterwards, I was able to generate 
login tokens for my CS:S servers using appid 240.


For CS:GO (which IS free-to-play), it FAILED because that new Steam 
account did not "own the game"?  In order to get it to work, I had to 
go to the Steam store (logged-in as this new Steam account) and buy 
the "CS:GO Prime Status Upgrade" - even though the game is 
"free-to-play"?  It's only about ~US$15, but still - why do I have to 
pay to host a game-server for a "free-to-play" game?


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Re: [External Mail] Re: [Csgo_servers] Update broke Windows servers?

[Vi]

I decided id just get it myself and i will mirroring this on my personal 
domain: http://vin.pet/inputsystem.dll


On 2022-06-26 오후 11:49, Weasel [F] wrote:
I thought these men was stripped out all attachments regardless, as 
the safety measure.


Better just post a link for the relevant stuff if it's on allied mods.

On Sun, Jun 26, 2022, 8:47 PM Naleksuh  wrote:

I don't use Discord, and neither do most people who still use
mailing lists. You're barking up the wrong tree. You also have the
option of uploading the file to a website, or sending email from a
non-Gmail provider (there are *a lot* of reasons not to use Gmail,
one of the reasons why I am slowly replacing all of my Gmail
accounts with my new Zoho address)



 On Sun, 26 Jun 2022 20:37:12 -0700 *Tyler Ryan
* wrote ---

Gmail won't allow me to send a .dll. Join the AlliedModder's
discord and take a look at first pinned message in #sourcemod
channel. Allied modders can be found at
https://discord.com/invite/HUc67zN

On Sun, Jun 26, 2022 at 9:44 PM Naleksuh
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Are you going to attach the file?



 On Sun, 26 Jun 2022 12:39:45 -0700 *Tyler Ryan
* wrote ---

Hey guys, a user from the AlliedModders discord
patched a DLL that fixed this. My servers are running
on Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC and would not start
(Fresh server, no addons). This fixed my servers.
Seems like he just NOPed a function that was crashing it.
image.png


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That is odd. There's dozens of reasons of why that
would happen, and most of it feels like its on
behalf of Windows. My best say would be that light
versions of Windows 10 might be better to host it,
such as Windows 10 LTSC IoT. Im betting on it
being a dependency change, but we don't know until
the engineers figure it out. Cheers

On 2022-06-24 오전 2:12, Naleksuh wrote:

Update on this: It looks like the issue that
me and John experiencing is that the server
starts up fine if using Windows 10 and Steam
is running. If using something else, such as
Windows Server 2019, or if Steam is not
running, then the server will not start.



 On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 21:28:27 -0700 *Eric
Smith - erics at valvesoftware.com
<http://valvesoftware.com> (via csgo_servers
list) 
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wrote ---

I’ll forward the details to the CS:GO team.


-Eric



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*Subject:* [External Mail] Re:
[Csgo_servers] Update broke Windows servers?


Hm, for me when I start with SourceMod I
get the crash after a few seconds but when
I rename "addons" folder to something
else, it starts up as normal. Might not be
a Valve issue, then. @erics Thoughts?




 On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 21:23:22 -0700
*John *
wrote ---


Negative, this is on a fresh server
without mods.

-John

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Re: [External Mail] Re: [Csgo_servers] Update broke Windows servers?

[Vi]

That is odd. There's dozens of reasons of why that would happen, and 
most of it feels like its on behalf of Windows. My best say would be 
that light versions of Windows 10 might be better to host it, such as 
Windows 10 LTSC IoT. Im betting on it being a dependency change, but we 
don't know until the engineers figure it out. Cheers


On 2022-06-24 오전 2:12, Naleksuh wrote:
Update on this: It looks like the issue that me and John experiencing 
is that the server starts up fine if using Windows 10 and Steam is 
running. If using something else, such as Windows Server 2019, or if 
Steam is not running, then the server will not start.




 On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 21:28:27 -0700 *Eric Smith - erics at 
valvesoftware.com (via csgo_servers list) 
* wrote ---


I’ll forward the details to the CS:GO team.


-Eric



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*To:* csgo_servers 
*Subject:* [External Mail] Re: [Csgo_servers] Update broke Windows
servers?


Hm, for me when I start with SourceMod I get the crash after a few
seconds but when I rename "addons" folder to something else, it
starts up as normal. Might not be a Valve issue, then. @erics
Thoughts?




 On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 21:23:22 -0700 *John
* wrote ---


Negative, this is on a fresh server without mods.

-John

On 6/23/2022 7:54 PM, Naleksuh wrote:



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It works fine as long as you aren't using SourceMod or
similar. You would likely need to reach out to them.




 On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 19:29:05 -0700 *John

* wrote ---


Windows servers seem to not be able to start following
the update a few
hours ago. Linux servers do start. Is this a known
issue that is being
worked on?

(The console pops up but there is an immediate crash.)

-John
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