Re: [css-d] Site Test - minority browsers

2006-08-26 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Tom Lancaster wrote:
 http://www.newhanoian.com/details.php/venueid/2

Extremely weak when subjected to font-resizing - especially in IE6.
The 'italic bug'[1] is pushing center-column too wide at some steps -
making it drop.

IE6 doesn't respect declared width and will instead auto-expand to make
space for those fixed-sized images. This doesn't go well with em-sized
side-columns. The same problem in other browsers, but not quite as bad.

Part of the solution is to use a fixed width (px, not em) on those
side-columns. The page itself is fixed width (px), so em-sizing simply
can't work.

regards
Georg

[1]http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer/italicbug-ie.html
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Re: [css-d] Site Test - minority browsers

2006-08-26 Thread cappellano
http://www.newhanoian.com/details.php/venueid/2 - On FF 1.5.0.6 for
Linux (gentoo in my case) it looks okay, but the layout is complete
messed up when I resize font.  On Epiphany it worked okay. Worked on
Seamonkey as well. I dont use KDE, so I cant test it on Konqueror.

The font-resize issue happened in all browsers. The menu 'Things To
Do' hides behind the left colum and also gets transparent - happened
only when hovering it at first time.

http://www.newhanoian.com/ - had no troubles with resizing fonts.
Worked well in all the three browsers.

About the longin/register, check this[1] screenshot i made on Firefox. It
happens on all the three.

Cheers!

ps.: forgive my bad english

[1]:http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/1523/weirdjp4.png
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Re: [css-d] Site Test - minority browsers

2006-08-26 Thread Tom Lancaster


Gunlaug Sørtun wrote:
 Tom Lancaster wrote:
 http://www.newhanoian.com/details.php/venueid/2
 
 Extremely weak when subjected to font-resizing - especially in IE6.
 The 'italic bug'[1] is pushing center-column too wide at some steps -
 making it drop.
 

OK, thanks for reminding me of that. I adapted the 3 col layout from a 
non-fixed-width page. If I didn't fix the width of the page I could use 
em, I presume.

I've changed to px meantime and IE looks better with large fonts.

Thanks,

Tom
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Re: [css-d] Site Test - minority browsers

2006-08-26 Thread Tom Lancaster
Thanks for the reply -

cappellano wrote:
 http://www.newhanoian.com/details.php/venueid/2 - On FF 1.5.0.6 for
 Linux (gentoo in my case) it looks okay, but the layout is complete
 messed up when I resize font.  On Epiphany it worked okay. Worked on
 Seamonkey as well. I dont use KDE, so I cant test it on Konqueror.
 
 The font-resize issue happened in all browsers. The menu 'Things To
 Do' hides behind the left colum and also gets transparent - happened
 only when hovering it at first time.
 

I hope the resize issue is fixed with the switch to px measurements now.
If the transparency issue only happened the first time I'm betting it's 
because the background image hadn't loaded yet.

 http://www.newhanoian.com/ - had no troubles with resizing fonts.
 Worked well in all the three browsers.
 
 About the longin/register, check this[1] screenshot i made on Firefox. It
 happens on all the three.
 

That's great - someone had mentioned weirdness to me, but with the 
screenshot I think I've been able to fix it now.


 Cheers!
 
 ps.: forgive my bad english
 

You've found many more mistakes in my site than I can find in your 
English :)

Thanks,

Tom

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Re: [css-d] Site Test - minority browsers

2006-08-26 Thread david
cappellano wrote:
 http://www.newhanoian.com/details.php/venueid/2 - On FF 1.5.0.6 for
 Linux (gentoo in my case) it looks okay, but the layout is complete
 messed up when I resize font.  On Epiphany it worked okay. Worked on
 Seamonkey as well. I dont use KDE, so I cant test it on Konqueror.

In Konqueror, dark text on a dark graduated background is pretty hard to 
read. The first column appears first, by itself, the full width of the 
window. Then I see the third column, by itself, the full width of the 
window. Then I see the middle column, by itself, the full width of the 
window. I can send you a screen capture if you like.

 The font-resize issue happened in all browsers. The menu 'Things To
 Do' hides behind the left colum and also gets transparent - happened
 only when hovering it at first time.

Font resizing in Konqueror didn't seem to cause any problems, but 
without things laid out right, I figured it wasn't worth worrying about.

 http://www.newhanoian.com/ - had no troubles with resizing fonts.
 Worked well in all the three browsers.

Looks fine in Konqueror.

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[css-d] question about float

2006-08-26 Thread ray
html
  body
 p style=width:30%;text1/p
 p style=float:left;text2/p
  /body
/html
The effect of this html code is :  text1 and text2 each is on a line.  My
question is: Why text2 is positioned on the right of text1? Because the
CSS2.1 said: A floating element must be placed as high as possible; A
left-floating element must be put as far to the left as possible; A higher
position is preferred to one that is further to the right or left.  If text2
was positioned on the right of text1, I cannot see any conflict with the
rules for floated element.
Seems a silly question. Can somebody give me hints? Thanks.
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Re: [css-d] question about float

2006-08-26 Thread ray
Puzzled.  The width for text1 is only 30%.  Could you give me a more clear
explanation?  I'm a newbie on CSS.  Thanks.

On 8/26/06, victor NOAGBODJI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Because text2 is colliding with the margin of text1.

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Re: [css-d] Two interesting problems

2006-08-26 Thread Kay C. Tien
The current selector was solved last night by using

#navlist li#current a {
 color: #FF;
 background: #CC;
}

Thanks to all that responded!

Kay

At 08:53 PM 8/25/2006 Friday, ~davidLaakso wrote:
Kay C. Tien wrote:
  1) Win XP, IE 6, there's a white gap between the header banner and
  the menubar.  Doesn't show up in FF.
  2) I put a id=current for the Home on the menubar, but it's not doing
  anything.  It should be blue.
  http://kaytest.clarityconnect.com/rightangle/index.html
  Kay
 
Add these rulesets to the style sheet:
#header img {display: block; }
#menubar ul li strong { background: #CC; border-right: 2px solid
#FF; color: #FF; float: left; display: inline; padding: 4px; }
Ammend the markup:
li id=currentstrongHome/strong/li
  !--li id=currenta href=index.htmlHome/a/li--
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[css-d] Suckerfish Problem in IE

2006-08-26 Thread Henry Felton
Hello all,

  I've got a problem with a dropdown, found at
www.henryfelton.net/oscarlayout. In FF it all works fine, but in IE the
dropdowns appear in the wrong place (inline with the main *li* and too far
to the left.

  Does anyone have a suggestion?

Many thanks,

Henry
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Re: [css-d] CSS-generated Text Problem

2006-08-26 Thread Jason Pruim
Hi Bob, take a look at this website: http://meyerweb.com/eric/css/ 
edge/popups/demo.html run your mouse over the links and watch below  
the links. Is that like what you wanted to do? I've never tried it  
with large amounts of text, but I have it setup on a test site with a  
little info about the link for which they would click on.


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On Aug 25, 2006, at 6:10 PM, Robert Tilley wrote:

I have a menu on my site that points to various HTML files.  These  
files have
a description of each menu item.  In a previous version of my site,  
each menu

item would open the description file within a frame in the window.

Can someone please tell me if the following is possible with CSS?   
I would
like a selection of a menu item to put the description in a vacant  
block on

the page.  This would be similar to having a menu selection trigger a
database access that would put the returned text into a HTML field.

No way appears possible to me, but then I am truly a Newbie- 
Beginner at CSS

coding.

Thanks, Bob
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Re: [css-d] Weird Firefox Hidden input forms and background image issue

2006-08-26 Thread Nick Fitzsimons

On 26 Aug 2006, at 05:29, Jade True wrote:

 Check out http://www.zencart13.jadetrue.com/

 There are two small white rectangles to the left of the search form.
 There are two input type=hidden form entries there, and I'm
 guessing they are causing this? There is a background image in the
 css behind the login form.


I can't see them (latest Firefox for Mac), but I seem to remember  
seeing something similar on FF/Win a while back. In my case it was  
due to overriding the default styles for input elements, specifically  
for input[type=hidden].

Try adding

input[type=hidden] {
margin: 0;
padding: 0;
}

and see if it helps.

HTH,

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Re: [css-d] Site testing

2006-08-26 Thread Nick Fitzsimons

On 26 Aug 2006, at 05:16, Andy Mosmiller wrote:

 Hi all.  Would anyone mind testing my new design website on mac
 browsers?  Before I put it up in a permanent location, I'd like to  
 make
 sure I'm meeting the promises I make on my web page.


A link to it might help :-)

 I am also interested in how you guys test on various platforms.  Do  
 you
 have special software?  For instance, I'd like to know that my site
 works in an older version of IE, but to my knowledge, the only way to
 make that a reality is to go through a complex and risky hacking
 procedure to allow 2 IE installs on the same computer.


I have special software; it's called OS X :-)

By running Parallels Desktop, I can have multiple PCs running in Mac  
windows, allowing me to test in Windows with various versions of IE,  
and also to test Linux browsers like Konqueror, all from the comfort  
of my Mac desktop.

For standalone IE versions for Windows, have a look at http:// 
browsers.evolt.org/?ie/32bit/standalone. Just unzip the files into  
their own directory and run the IExplore.exe file. There are a few  
limitations, but you can overcome them using the techniques given at  
http://www.positioniseverything.net/articles/multiIE.html.

I've never had any problems running these standalones (one at a time,  
please) on Windows machines, even without taking the extra steps  
detailed at Position is Everything.

 Where macs are concerned, I tried out iecapture, but it has never  
 worked
 for me.  I'd love to have a reliable means of mac browser testing that
 does not involve buying a mac.


There are hacks out there to allow you to install Mac OS X on  
commodity PC hardware, but you'll have to Google for them; I prefer  
having the real thing and using Parallels or, occasionally, running  
Windows on it using Bootcamp.

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[css-d] IE Problem

2006-08-26 Thread Jeff Chastain
I am not sure how to better describe this as I really cannot figure out what
is going on.  I have a problem where a block of content is simply
disappearing in IE, but displays just fine in Firefox.
 
The site is http://www.kcoutlet.com.  The home page is split into 2 columns
and the title bar of the top box in the left column is simply disappearing.
If I change the order of the boxes, the title bar of whichever box is on top
will disappear.  I am using the NiftyCorners script to round the boxes, but
removing it has not effect.
 
Any ideas - this is really baffling me?
 
Thanks
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Re: [css-d] IE Problem

2006-08-26 Thread Jeff Chastain

Okay, this gets even better.  If I scroll the window such that the title bar
scrolls off the page, then scroll back ... it magically appears again.  Am I
loosing my mind or is IE really this quirky?

Thanks
-- Jeff


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Subject: [css-d] IE Problem

I am not sure how to better describe this as I really cannot figure out what
is going on.  I have a problem where a block of content is simply
disappearing in IE, but displays just fine in Firefox.
 
The site is http://www.kcoutlet.com.  The home page is split into 2 columns
and the title bar of the top box in the left column is simply disappearing.
If I change the order of the boxes, the title bar of whichever box is on top
will disappear.  I am using the NiftyCorners script to round the boxes, but
removing it has not effect.
 
Any ideas - this is really baffling me?
 
Thanks
-- Jeff
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[css-d] working with 800x600 resolution

2006-08-26 Thread Patrick Aljord
Hey all,
I'm working on a site that use 1024x768 resolution and I just realised
that it looks horrible on a 800x600. I was just wandering if there is
a way to make it looks good with the same css on both resolutions or
if I need to write another css for the 1024x768.

As an example on this page:
http://rdigikam.sitlib.org/tags/showpicfromtag/197?imgnum=4passed=champagne

the second div is on the right of the first one but on a 800x600
resolution it's below it and looks bad. Any idea how to fix that kind
of stuff?

thanx in advance

Pat

PS: 800x600 is the most used resolution here in Peru unfortunately
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[css-d] CSS Calendar

2006-08-26 Thread Alan
I am trying to find a template or a good source to make a month by month
calendar in XHTML/CSS – I have found a lot of examples of ones with tables
that look fairly good but I am trying to find a solution that is done
without tables. 

 

Has anyone seen one done? 

 

Thanks 

 

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Re: [css-d] working with 800x600 resolution

2006-08-26 Thread ~davidLaakso
Patrick Aljord wrote:
 I'm working on a site that use 1024x768 resolution and I just realised
 that it looks horrible on a 800x600. I was just wandering if there is
 a way to make it looks good with the same css on both resolutions or
 if I need to write another css for the 1024x768.
   
Use one css file.
 As an example on this page:
 http://rdigikam.sitlib.org/tags/showpicfromtag/197?imgnum=4passed=champagne

 the second div is on the right of the first one but on a 800x600
 resolution it's below it and looks bad. Any idea how to fix that kind
 of stuff?
   
I think we're talking fast and dirty.  You need a doctype or it will not 
render properly cross-browser.. Back-up your markup document. Run it 
trough  Tidy Onlinehttp://infohound.net/tidy/. Tidy will assign the 
doctype for you. Validate the Tidy file and the CSS file. Reduce the 
width of the large cat image to around 480px. It should work at 800 
without drawing a horizontal scrollbar.
 thanx in advance

 Pat

 PS: 800x600 is the most used resolution here in Peru unfortunately
Best,
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Re: [css-d] CSS Calendar

2006-08-26 Thread Shelly
 I am trying to ... make a ... calendar in XHTML/CSS – ... but I am 
trying to find a solution that is done without tables. 

Just out of curiosity - why?

I would think that a calendar is a perfect example of when you *should* 
use tables.  It *is* tabular data...

Spank me with a wet noodle if I'm wrong!

~Shelly
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Re: [css-d] CSS Calendar

2006-08-26 Thread Grady Kelly
On 8/26/06, Alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am trying to find a template or a good source to make a month by month
 calendar in XHTML/CSS




I found some css calendars done with lists.  I can't remember who did it, or
where I found it, but I placed them on my server so that you can see them.

  http://www.simpledesign.org/calendar/cal1.html

  http://www.simpledesign.org/calendar/cal2.html


Hope that helps.

I do agree though that a calendar is a good reason to use tables, it is
tabular like data.

Grady
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Re: [css-d] question about float

2006-08-26 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
ray wrote:
 My question is: Why text2 is positioned on the right of text1?

Did you really mean to ask: Why text2 is *not* positioned on the right
of text1?

If so, then the answer is that a float can not move upwards past the
bottom of in-flow (non-floating and not-absolute-positioned) elements
placed before it in the source-code.

This means the floating 'text2' isn't allowed to go higher than bottom
of the non-floating 'text1', and the vertical space between them is
equal to 'margin-bottom of text1' + 'margin-top of text2'.

Size (dimensions) of text1 - the fact that there's plenty of empty space
available to the right of text1 - doesn't matter.


Declare text1 as a float, and text2 can move up alongside of it.


If you mean to ask something else about float-behavior, then you'll have
to ask again - a bit clearer.

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[css-d] New issue on same site - css image map in IE

2006-08-26 Thread Jade True
I posted a question for this site http://www.zencart13.jadetrue.com  
about the weird form and hidden text issue, but figured that one out.

Now I have a problem with the css image map at the top of the page,  
only in IE. The shopping cart link only has a link for about half of  
the image, while the contact us and my account links work fine. I  
can't figure out why the link doesn't spread as wide as it should in IE.

Any ideas?

Thanks!
Jade True

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Re: [css-d] New issue on same site - css image map in IE

2006-08-26 Thread ~davidLaakso
Jade True wrote:
 I posted a question for this site http://www.zencart13.jadetrue.com  
 about the weird form and hidden text issue, but figured that one out.

 Now I have a problem with the css image map at the top of the page,  
 only in IE. The shopping cart link only has a link for about half of  
 the image, while the contact us and my account links work fine. I  
 can't figure out why the link doesn't spread as wide as it should in IE.

 Any ideas?
   
Not really. Tweak and see if it come up:
#tagline a#sc{
  position:absolute;
  left: 30px;tweak for IE
  top:0px;
  }

 Jade True
   
Best,
~dL

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Re: [css-d] New issue on same site - css image map in IE

2006-08-26 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Jade True wrote:
 http://www.zencart13.jadetrue.com

 I can't figure out why the link doesn't spread as wide as it should 
 in IE.

It does, but the left part of it is covered by its own, absolute
positioned, li in IE/win.

Add...
#tagline li {width: 0; }
...and they'll stay out of the way.

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Re: [css-d] New issue on same site - css image map in IE

2006-08-26 Thread Jade True
Thanks david, but but not go. That 30px is what I had before, but not  
working. It seems like IE thinks the image is shorter than what it  
is, and is cutting off that link, thinking the image is done. Though  
I can't figure out why!

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On Aug 26, 2006, at 8:09 PM, ~davidLaakso wrote:

 Jade True wrote:
 I posted a question for this site http:// 
 www.zencart13.jadetrue.com  about the weird form and hidden text  
 issue, but figured that one out.

 Now I have a problem with the css image map at the top of the  
 page,  only in IE. The shopping cart link only has a link for  
 about half of  the image, while the contact us and my account  
 links work fine. I  can't figure out why the link doesn't spread  
 as wide as it should in IE.

 Any ideas?

 Not really. Tweak and see if it come up:
 #tagline a#sc{
  position:absolute;
  left: 30px;tweak for IE
  top:0px;
  }

 Jade True

 Best,
 ~dL

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Re: [css-d] question about float

2006-08-26 Thread ray
Your answer is just what I want. I should say Why text2 is not positioned
on the right
of text1? .Sorry for my poor english.   Thanks a lot.

On 8/27/06, Gunlaug Sørtun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ray wrote:
  My question is: Why text2 is positioned on the right of text1?

 Did you really mean to ask: Why text2 is *not* positioned on the right
 of text1?

 If so, then the answer is that a float can not move upwards past the
 bottom of in-flow (non-floating and not-absolute-positioned) elements
 placed before it in the source-code.

 This means the floating 'text2' isn't allowed to go higher than bottom
 of the non-floating 'text1', and the vertical space between them is
 equal to 'margin-bottom of text1' + 'margin-top of text2'.

 Size (dimensions) of text1 - the fact that there's plenty of empty space
 available to the right of text1 - doesn't matter.


 Declare text1 as a float, and text2 can move up alongside of it.


 If you mean to ask something else about float-behavior, then you'll have
 to ask again - a bit clearer.

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Re: [css-d] IE Problem

2006-08-26 Thread Holly Bergevin
From: Jeff Chastain [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  Am I loosing my mind or is IE really this quirky?

You're not losing your mind, it's IE.

  I have a problem where a block of content is simply
disappearing in IE, but displays just fine in Firefox.
 
The site is http://www.kcoutlet.com.  

Check out the following links and see if they have any help for your problem.

http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer/peekaboo.html
http://www.communitymx.com/content/article.cfm?cid=C37E0

~holly 
 
   
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