Re: [css-d] Columns inside a select

2007-08-24 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007, Les Mizzell wrote:

 I just got asked this by a client. I don't think it's possible.
 What they're looking for is a drop down list showing different versions
 of a product with several attributes all in equal width columns.

In practical terms, it isn't possible, but you can achieve something 
similar by using other kinds of input fields (form controls).

 Kinda like:

Item #Size   Color   Radius
 --
 select
 option 123A12Green2'   /option
 option 123B14Red  7'   /option
 option 123C15Blue 9'   /option
 /select

 No way - right?

Since the option element has plain text as its content, by HTML 
specifications, there is no way to apply different CSS styling to its 
different parts, e.g. to make part of it start at a specific horizontal 
position. Pseudoelements might in theory change this, but there's nothing 
to look for in that direction.

You could hand-tabulate the content as above, using no-break spaces 
instead of normal spaces, and set the font in the select elements to a 
monospace font. That way, you could get tabular-looking appearance much 
like you did in your email, except that you needed extra operations.
(Using white-space: pre should make even normal spaces non-collapsible,
but it does not seem to work for select elements, at least on IE 7.)

So what's left ia a different design, where you put the data in a table 
(after all, it is tabular data, isn't it?) and make the first column of 
the table contain radio buttons. The user would then click on a radio 
button, rather than select from a dropdown list. For an example and some 
notes on this approach, see
http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/forms/choices.html#select-inflex

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Re: [css-d] Logo Image Disappears in IE7 (squeaking the wheel)

2007-08-24 Thread Bruno Fassino
Dave M G wrote:

 I posted a few days ago about a problem where some images set as
 background images in div tags were not displaying in
 Internet Explorer version 7.
[...]

 The HTML is essentially just nested div tags:
 div id=logo
 a href=/spanArticlass/span/a
 div id=logo-right
 div id=logo-left
 div id=main-menu
 ?php menu(main_menu); ?
 /div!-- ends main-menu --
 /div!-- ends logo-left --
 /div!-- ends logo-right --
 /div!--ends logo --

 The tag logo has a background image that repeats. The logo-left
 div has a background - the main title text - that doesn't
 repeat and is positioned on the left. And, as expected,
 the logo-right div has
 a thin background, positioned on the right.


I'm not sure if the following is the only reason, but surely it contributes:

You have #logo-left { height: inherit; }
The inherit keyword is not supported by IE (IE7 included), so you are not
getting the desired height for your #logo-left.
Assign an explicit height, I think 180px is what you want (you can probably
also use height:100% on both #logo-right and #logo-left, since this is the
explicit height on the parent #logo.)

HTH,
Bruno

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Re: [css-d] CSS crashes Mac Firefox

2007-08-24 Thread Barney Carroll
fantasai wrote:
 Karl Brightman wrote:
 I wouldn't think it would be a memory problem on a Macbook Pro though?
 
 I wouldn't expect that, especially since your other computer doesn't
 exhibit the problem, but it might be interacting with some of your
 extensions in a weird way.


I suspect the extensions may have nothing to do with it – have you tried 
turning them all off and testing for it? Most likely it's the OS' 
font-render crashing the app.


Regards,
Barney


PS: This is getting pretty OT – I recommend evolt.org's 'the list' for 
more general web tech.
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Re: [css-d] Image List Side by Side

2007-08-24 Thread Barney Carroll
Elli,

You want to float:left; The value of float is which direction it should 
go to while remaining on the same horizontal level as far as possible – 
so by floating left you will have the list getting as close to your 
image as margins will allow.


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Re: [css-d] Logo Image Disappears in IE7 (squeaking the wheel)

2007-08-24 Thread Dave M G
Bruno,

Thank you for responding.

 I'm not sure if the following is the only reason, but surely it contributes:
 The inherit keyword is not supported by IE (IE7 included), so you are not
 getting the desired height for your #logo-left.
 Assign an explicit height, 

I added an explicit height, and made the width 100%.

Unfortunately, that does not seem to have done it:
http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=356657

Is there another IE7 condition I need to be aware of?

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[css-d] Question still not Answered-

2007-08-24 Thread css man
This question was posted previously, but I have not received any answers
yet. I cannot figure out how to reply back to my same original thread (so if
someone can help with that question that would be great too).

I'm trying to please as many resolutions as possible, and have coded the
example below for 800X600.
It seems to work fine in Firefox, but there appears to be a scaling issue
when viewed with IE6 and a monitor set to 800X600 resolution.

Here are additional details:

I just checked www.cssbuddy.freesuperhosting.com
using my desktop computer set to 800X600 resolution and it looks like crap
with IE6.

I thought it was this scaling problem with Dell, but it's happening on a
standard desktop computer too.

I know IE sucks, I hate it, and personally avoid using it whenever possible;
but what are you going to do with the morons who still think IE is the
greatest thing since perforated toilet paper?

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[css-d] Nav container: Collapses in IE6

2007-08-24 Thread Red Rooster
Hi,
I have a nav built with a list, and I have it just how I want it in FF (good
in win mac), but in IE6, the container #nav div collapses completely.

Can you see what's missing?

Thanks!

See it here: http://www.redroosterweb.com

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[css-d] Hover effect to input button in Internet Explorer

2007-08-24 Thread Shivanand Reddy Yerva
 I am using a input button whose code is:

input name=Input type=button value=Send my password
class=buttonStyle /



I have styled the buttons using the classes below:

.buttonStyle{
font-family:Tahoma, Arial, verdana, sans-serif;
font-size:11px;
color:#fff;
font-weight:normal;
background-color:#4c8094;
margin: 0;
padding: 0 2px 0 2px;
width: auto;
overflow: visible;
}

.buttonStyle:hover {
font-family:Tahoma, Arial, verdana, sans-serif;
font-size:11px;
color:#ffd200;
font-weight:normal;
background-color:#4c8094;
margin: 0;
padding: 0 2px 0 2px;
width: auto;
overflow: visible;
}

The problem is the hover effect works in Firefox, but not in IE. Can you let
me know how to make the hover effect work in IE.

Shivanand
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Re: [css-d] Nav container: Collapses in IE6

2007-08-24 Thread Barney Carroll
Sorry RR,

That's the result of my partial advice (it's debateable as to whether or 
not it's good practice but I always treat IE bugs as exceptions to be 
dealt with as and when they come up): IE needs the abstract 
MS-proprietary property of 'hasLayout' to apply conventional box model 
logic in some cases. There are two ways of dealing with this depending 
on how you feel about 'clean' coding:

• You can give it the non-W3-spec MS CSS zoom:1, and all other browsers 
will simply not process the rule (the downside being invalid CSS).

• You can give it height:1%, and still have entirely valid CSS but 
having given every browser a piece of what makes very little sense (but 
it won'y screw anything up in rendering terms).

Either way, IE6 will then render like a sane creature.

Regards,
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Re: [css-d] Question still not Answered-

2007-08-24 Thread Barney Carroll
cssman,

You should still feed margin: 0 auto; to IE, and give the body 
text-align: center.


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Re: [css-d] Image List Side by Side

2007-08-24 Thread Elli Vizcaino
--- Barney Carroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Elli,
 
 You want to float:left; The value of float is which
 direction it should 
 go to while remaining on the same horizontal level
 


As it turns out, I needed the list to float right as
far right as it would go, so I resolved that by
wrapping the UL and the LATEST POSTS title in a div
and floated that to the right of the SUBJECT GOES
HERE image. Problem I have now is that the div that
contains both elements seems to only adjust it's
height to the height of the image. Meanwhile the UL
list is a bit longer than that and I need the
containing div to adjust to the height of the list. I
have outlined both divs with borders in this sample: 

http://e7flux.com/images/impact_template.gif

Here is the code snippet: 

div class=masthead
div class=fr
strongLATEST POSTS:/strong 
ul
lia href=#Headline goes right over here in this
space/a span class=grey11:41 AM/span/li
lia href=#This is another headline right here
underneath the first one/a span class=grey9:27
AM/span/li
lia href=#This headline is long so it cuts off
after ## characters and adds ellipsis.../a span
class=grey8:56 AM/span/li/ul
/divimg src=/images/impact/subject_mast.gif
alt=Subject: Tagline Goes Here /
/div
/div

and here is the CSS:

.masthead { margin-bottom: 15px; border: 1px solid
#E8E8E8; font-size: 11px; color: #405094;}
.masthead .fr {float: right; border: 1px solid #000;}
.masthead strong {color: #fd6205; }
.masthead ul {list-style-position: inside;}
.grey {color: #626b77;}

Any help would be greatly appreciated. 

Elli 


   

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Re: [css-d] Hover effect to input button in Internet Explorer

2007-08-24 Thread Rick Lecoat
On 24/8/07 (09:16) Shivanand said:

 I am using a input button whose code is:

input name=Input type=button value=Send my password
class=buttonStyle /



I have styled the buttons using the classes below:

.buttonStyle{
font-family:Tahoma, Arial, verdana, sans-serif;
font-size:11px;
color:#fff;
font-weight:normal;
background-color:#4c8094;
margin: 0;
padding: 0 2px 0 2px;
width: auto;
overflow: visible;
}

.buttonStyle:hover {
font-family:Tahoma, Arial, verdana, sans-serif;
font-size:11px;
color:#ffd200;
font-weight:normal;
background-color:#4c8094;
margin: 0;
padding: 0 2px 0 2px;
width: auto;
overflow: visible;
}

The problem is the hover effect works in Firefox, but not in IE. Can you let
me know how to make the hover effect work in IE.

I believe that IE will only recognise the 'hover' pseudoclass if it is
applied to an a anchor. (Might not apply to IE7, I'm not sure).

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Re: [css-d] Image List Side by Side

2007-08-24 Thread Elli Vizcaino
Thanks a million! That did the trick :). 

Elli 

--- Barney Carroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Elli,
 
 Give the container overflow:hidden and height:1% –
 that will make it 
 'contain' properly.
 
 
 Regards,
 Barney

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Re: [css-d] Logo Image Disappears in IE7 (squeaking the wheel)

2007-08-24 Thread Bruno Fassino
Dave M G wrote:

 I added an explicit height, and made the width 100%.
 
 Unfortunately, that does not seem to have done it:
 http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=356657


I see the articlass background image in IE7 and the above browsercam page 
shows it too. I mean the gold 3d text in the header.  Maybe you are referring 
to another problem, or just have a caching issue?

Bruno 

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Re: [css-d] Image List Side by Side

2007-08-24 Thread Barney Carroll
Elli,

Give the container overflow:hidden and height:1% – that will make it 
'contain' properly.


Regards,
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Re: [css-d] Nav container: Collapses in IE6

2007-08-24 Thread Red Rooster
Thank guys,
I added the 1% height and it works great.

I used to kind of blow off IE6, but a client was having too many of his
customers have problems with his site. I'm glad I check for it now, even
thought it's __! (you fill in the blank)

There is a list somewhere of browser stats around the web, do you know if it
(them) ?

Thanks again,

- RR

On 8/24/07, Barney Carroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Sorry RR,

 That's the result of my partial advice (it's debateable as to whether or
 not it's good practice but I always treat IE bugs as exceptions to be
 dealt with as and when they come up): IE needs the abstract
 MS-proprietary property of 'hasLayout' to apply conventional box model
 logic in some cases. There are two ways of dealing with this depending
 on how you feel about 'clean' coding:

 • You can give it the non-W3-spec MS CSS zoom:1, and all other browsers
 will simply not process the rule (the downside being invalid CSS).

 • You can give it height:1%, and still have entirely valid CSS but
 having given every browser a piece of what makes very little sense (but
 it won'y screw anything up in rendering terms).

 Either way, IE6 will then render like a sane creature.

 Regards,
 Barney
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Re: [css-d] Logo Image Disappears in IE7 (squeaking the wheel) [SOLVED]

2007-08-24 Thread Dave M G
Bruno,

Thank you for responding.

 Maybe you ... have a caching issue?
Yes, you are right. I cleaned out my cache and see that your fix is, in 
fact, working as hoped.

Thank you for your help. It was exactly the information I needed.

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Re: [css-d] Nav container: Collapses in IE6

2007-08-24 Thread Barney Carroll
RR,

There are loads of pages detailing various methods for dealing with 
cross-browser problems – here are a few with insights into what's wrong 
with IE, and how you can avoid the problems:

http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=BoxModelHack

http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer.html

http://www.webdevout.net/browser-support-css?uas=IE6-IE7-FX2

http://www.quirksmode.org/css/contents.html


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Re: [css-d] Nav container: Collapses in IE6

2007-08-24 Thread Rick Faircloth
http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Red Rooster
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 10:55 AM
To: CSS Discuss
Subject: Re: [css-d] Nav container: Collapses in IE6

Thank guys,
I added the 1% height and it works great.

I used to kind of blow off IE6, but a client was having too many of his
customers have problems with his site. I'm glad I check for it now, even
thought it's __! (you fill in the blank)

There is a list somewhere of browser stats around the web, do you know if it
(them) ?

Thanks again,

- RR

On 8/24/07, Barney Carroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Sorry RR,

 That's the result of my partial advice (it's debateable as to whether or
 not it's good practice but I always treat IE bugs as exceptions to be
 dealt with as and when they come up): IE needs the abstract
 MS-proprietary property of 'hasLayout' to apply conventional box model
 logic in some cases. There are two ways of dealing with this depending
 on how you feel about 'clean' coding:

 . You can give it the non-W3-spec MS CSS zoom:1, and all other browsers
 will simply not process the rule (the downside being invalid CSS).

 . You can give it height:1%, and still have entirely valid CSS but
 having given every browser a piece of what makes very little sense (but
 it won'y screw anything up in rendering terms).

 Either way, IE6 will then render like a sane creature.

 Regards,
 Barney
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[css-d] Disappearing Primary Nav

2007-08-24 Thread John Gribben
Hi everyone,

 

A client is unable to view the primary navigation on this site:

 

http://www.albaadvisors.com/

 

They claim to be having this problem with the latest version of Firefox on
XP.  I've tested with this browser and don't have the problem.  Can anybody
spot something I am doing wrong?

 

Thanks,
John

 

John Gribben

Pedrera, Inc.

215 348 7446

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http://www.pedrera.com http://www.pedrera.com/ 

 

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Re: [css-d] Fieldset w/100% width expands beyond its form?

2007-08-24 Thread Jay Levitt
On 8/23/2007 5:19 AM, Barney Carroll wrote:
 Jay Levitt wrote:
 So how, if at all, can I get the margins and padding of fieldset to 
 affect the right column?  I can set margins/padding on .labelled-form 
 instead, but that may not be what I always want to do.  In fact, since 
 .labelled-form needs to work both with and without fieldsets, I know 
 it's not what I want to do.
 
 I /think/ you're after a different design from ground-up if this is a 
 priority. The problem is you've predefined the relationship between 
 columns at a way higher point – the centre column is a set 100% of the 
 body's 800px once the left (200) and right columns (150px) have been 
 taken out (so a definite 450px unless you change some of those rules).

Ah, but what you do not know - because I neglected to say so - is that 
the 800px body was just for troubleshooting so I didn't have to scroll 
horizontally.  The actual layout didn't specify the body width.

My basic problem turned out to be that to contain a float, float its 
parent doesn't scale very well at all.  I really didn't need a floated 
fieldset; that was floated only so it could contain other floats. 
Instead, I used a self-clearing float down at the field level, and 
everything works nicely now.

Jay


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Re: [css-d] alignment position - liquid layout issues

2007-08-24 Thread Ray Leventhal
Ray Leventhal wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I'm implementing a layout based (Strongly) on the holy grail liquid
 layout[1].
snip

grr...i hate it when I forget the reference :)
[1] http://www.alistapart.com/articles/holygrail
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Re: [css-d] Nav container: Collapses in IE6

2007-08-24 Thread Barney Carroll
Rick Faircloth wrote:
 http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp

It's worth noting that those statistics are taken from w3schools.com 
itself – a resource used by web developers seeking to inform themselves 
about browser behaviours – and as not a good indication of the general 
public.

I got these readings from a high-traffic site we run:

• 88% IE - of which just under half is 6 and the rest is 7 (2% use IE5)
• 10% Firefox
• ~2% Safari 2


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[css-d] alignment position - liquid layout issues

2007-08-24 Thread Ray Leventhal
Hi all,

I'm implementing a layout based (Strongly) on the holy grail liquid
layout[1].

Site:
http://devel.legionpost130.org/

CSS:
http://devel.legionpost130.org/styles/post130.css
(contains some unneeded redundancies, I'm sure)

Layout issue1:
The center column text is aligned to the same height as the topmost nav
item in the left column.  The desired effect is to have the text in the
center column line up with the top of the nav div itself.

Layout issue2:
IE, at least WinIE7, does not display the nav at all.

Ideas, suggestions and general comments are more than welcome.

Thanks in advance for any offered advice.

Kind regards,
~Ray
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Re: [css-d] Disappearing Primary Nav

2007-08-24 Thread David Laakso
John Gribben wrote:
 Hi everyone,

  

 A client is unable to view the primary navigation on this site:

  

 http://www.albaadvisors.com/

  

 They claim to be having this problem with the latest version of Firefox on
 XP.  I've tested with this browser and don't have the problem.  Can anybody
 spot something I am doing wrong?

  

 Thanks,
 John
   

Oh it's there alright on mac/ff but may not be exactly easy to see at 
116.5dpi for anyone over the age of eighteen.
FWIW, deleting the height (s) on this selector will prevent the content 
text from shooting out the bottom with font-scaling:
div#centercontent.home {...}
Best,
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Re: [css-d] alignment position - liquid layout issues

2007-08-24 Thread David Laakso
Ray Leventhal wrote:
 Ray Leventhal wrote:
   
 Hi all,

 I'm implementing a layout based (Strongly) on the holy grail liquid
 layout[1].
 
 snip

 grr...i hate it when I forget the reference :)
 [1] http://www.alistapart.com/articles/holygrail
   



This aricle [1] may help with regard to some of your issues?
[1] http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/hgjump.html
Best,
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Re: [css-d] alignment position - liquid layout issues

2007-08-24 Thread Ray Leventhal
David Laakso wrote:
 Ray Leventhal wrote:
 Ray Leventhal wrote:
   
 Hi all,

 I'm implementing a layout based (Strongly) on the holy grail liquid
 layout[1].
 
 snip

 grr...i hate it when I forget the reference :)
 [1] http://www.alistapart.com/articles/holygrail
   
 
 
 
 This aricle [1] may help with regard to some of your issues?
 [1] http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/hgjump.html
 Best,
 ~dL
 
 
 
HI David,

Thanks for that awesome article by Ingo  :)   I'll be diving into that
heavily as time permits today and /hopefully/ will be able to discern
exactly what element is in need of IE fix.

In case I didn't make it clear, the issue I seem to be having is with
Win/IE7.  I'm awaiting browsershots' queue to see how horrific it may
look in the dreaded IE6.

Kind regards,
~R
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[css-d] Min-Height

2007-08-24 Thread MarcLuzietti
I'm trying to use min-height in FF, which is supposed to support the 
style, but it's ignoring it. IE, ironically enough, is honoring it because 

I'm using the IE7 javscript library.

Anyway, here's the relevent code.

fieldset {
border:1px solid #369;
border-left:3.4em solid #369;
display:block;
margin-top:1em;
padding:1em 1em 1em 2.5em;
padding-top:0;
position:relative;
}
#dealInfoLegend {
height:185px;
left:-4.7em;
margin-top:-90px;
position:absolute;
top:50%;
width:12px;
}
#dealStructure {
clear:right;
float:none;
min-height:185px;
}

fieldset id=dealStructure
img id=dealInfoLegend src=images/dealInfoLegend.gif alt=Deal 
Information

Why is Firefox messing with me?

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Re: [css-d] Differing font-sizes between operating systems

2007-08-24 Thread Richard Grevers
On 8/22/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm working for a company in which the boss (who's originally from the
 print industry) insists on having equal line lengths in the browsers on
 different operating systems.

 So in an example text, hello, i'm example text!, if the text is split to
 the following line at example on Firefox Windows, it must be split at
 example in Firefox Mac/Safari as well.

 On Windows, I had to resort to inserting manual line-breaks where the boss
 wants the split which are not honoured on Safari for example.

 How do you solve this technically, if at all? My reasoning that you cannot
 finally determine the user's operating system and settings is not
 acceptable for the boss.

 Please assume that influencing the line-length or font-size for the
 diferent operating systems is what needs to be solved. Please, no
 discussion how and why you should *not* influence it, that wouldn't help
 me. It's probably to do with resolution which differs between WIn and Mac
 OS, but I'm facing the situation as-is.

The most robust solution for you might be to use the HTML element
pre - which is intended to preserve whitespace and line breaks, and
to override its default monospace appearance with

pre {font-family:Arial, Helvetica, serif;} or something similar.

You should avoid making the container fixed-width (pre will overflow
the container by default if lines are too long) or specify the width
in ems.
Using a font-size as small as 62.5% will cause the layout to break
more quickly, as it hits people's minimum font settings or they need
to text zoom in order to read. It sounds as though your bosses'
browser is set to default fonts larger than he likes - that is where
things need to be fixed.
Also, pre gets a smaller font size by default in nearly every
browser (13pt vs 16pt, IIRC) so you would at least need to allow for
that.

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Dramatic Design www.dramatic.co.nz
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Re: [css-d] Differing font-sizes between operating systems

2007-08-24 Thread Felix Miata
On 2007/08/25 08:10 (GMT+0800) Richard Grevers apparently typed:

 Also, pre gets a smaller font size by default in nearly every
 browser (13pt vs 16pt, IIRC) so you would at least need to allow for
 that.

Safari is 13px vs. 16px, as is Gecko on Mac and windoz. Gecko is 12px vs.
16px on Linux. In Konqueror and all versions of IE, monospace (PRE) is the
same size as proportional. Since IE represents more users than all other
browsers combined, it's fair to say that most users will find unstyled PRE
text to be the same nominal size as unstyled normal text.
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[css-d] help! dropdowns were working but have stopped in ie7

2007-08-24 Thread Melinda Odom
Hi,

My drop downs have stopped working in this store:
http://www.prayerbookstore.com

They were working in ie7 and the top was centered but my browser is showing
it off to the left and the menu dropdowns are not working. Works fine in
mozilla and netscape.

Can someone please confirm this? I may be having a cache problem or
something.

Sincerely,
Melinda Odom
Design Hosting, Inc.
www.designhosting.biz
479-471-0891



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[css-d] Insertions rather than popups

2007-08-24 Thread Bob Rosenberg
Greetings:

I'm working on a large document with translations and footnotes, and I do not 
want popup windows.  Instead, I have the text appearing in place (mockup sample 
at http://users.rcn.com/rtberg/try_me.html), using javascript and enclosing the 
note or translation text--which is sometimes fairly structured--in object 
tags.

Is there a way to do this with pure CSS and no javascript?

(I'm new to the list, and I searched the archive with popup, but that didn't 
help much.  My apologies if this is old hat.)

Thanks.

--Bob R.
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Re: [css-d] Min-Height

2007-08-24 Thread Rafael
Interesting... I don't know why (I didn't find anything on the spec) but it
seems you need to specify the height property. It also seems that pretty
much any value works.

On 8/24/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm trying to use min-height in FF, which is supposed to support the
 style, but it's ignoring it. IE, ironically enough, is honoring it because

 I'm using the IE7 javscript library.

 Anyway, here's the relevent code.

 fieldset {
 border:1px solid #369;
 border-left:3.4em solid #369;
 display:block;
 margin-top:1em;
 padding:1em 1em 1em 2.5em;
 padding-top:0;
 position:relative;
 }
 #dealInfoLegend {
 height:185px;
 left:-4.7em;
 margin-top:-90px;
 position:absolute;
 top:50%;
 width:12px;
 }
 #dealStructure {
 clear:right;
 float:none;
 min-height:185px;
 }

 fieldset id=dealStructure
 img id=dealInfoLegend src=images/dealInfoLegend.gif alt=Deal
 Information

 Why is Firefox messing with me?

 --
 Marc Luzietti
 Flagship Project
 Bayview Financial, L.P.
 (305) 341-5624

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[css-d] Insertions rather than popups (reprise)

2007-08-24 Thread Bob Rosenberg
I'm sorry--I should have noted that right now the sample does not work in IE6.

That's a problem for another day.  Probably the day after I settle this one.

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[css-d] help with table height

2007-08-24 Thread Xavier Noria
I am writing a CSS for printing invoices (via Flying Saucer).

That's a page with three DIVs with fixed heights, header, body, and  
footer. Target is DIN A4.

OK, I would like to emulate a common layout in printed invoices: in  
the body I would like to have a table that fills 100% the DIV both  
horizontally and vertically, with vertical borders in the columns.  
Even if there are only a few rows in the invoice, the borders should  
go down to the bottom with empty content. At the bottom there would  
be border-bottoms.

The closer I've got to this is a fake last TR with nbsp;s in each  
cell and some fixed height for each TD's padding-bottom. But I don't  
know how to turn that fixed height into whatever remains available.

Any idea?

-- fxn


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Re: [css-d] help! dropdowns were working but have stopped in ie7

2007-08-24 Thread David Laakso
Melinda Odom wrote:
 Hi,

 My drop downs have stopped working in this store:
 http://www.prayerbookstore.com

 They were working in ie7 and the top was centered but my browser is showing
 it off to the left and the menu dropdowns are not working. Works fine in
 mozilla and netscape.

 Can someone please confirm this? I may be having a cache problem or
 something.

 Sincerely,
 Melinda Odom
   


Melinda,

In both IE6 and IE7:

-- the menu is shifted left
--the text in the footer is shifted left
-- the About Us link is on two lines (stacked)


In IE6 the drop-downs appear on hover; In IE7 the drop-downs /do not/ 
appear on hover.

Although it probably will have no effect on the current issues, you may 
want to validate the html.

I regret I do not know the fix for these issues,

Best,
~dL




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Re: [css-d] Min-Height

2007-08-24 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh

On Aug 25, 2007, at 3:48 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm trying to use min-height in FF, which is supposed to support the
 style, but it's ignoring it. IE, ironically enough, is honoring it  
 because

 I'm using the IE7 javscript library.

Specifically 'min-height' as applied to fieldset.
It is a known bug:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=210094

(uly workaround: wrap the content of the fieldset in a div and  
apply the min-height to that div...)


Philippe
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Re: [css-d] help! dropdowns were working but have stopped in ie7

2007-08-24 Thread Melinda Odom
Hi,

I found the problem...this page was edited and a different doctype was put
in and as soon as I changed it to:
!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN
   http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd;

everything started working again in ie7 and probably ie6 but don't have that
one to test.

Sincerely,
Melinda Odom
Design Hosting, Inc.
www.designhosting.biz
479-471-0891


  -Original Message-
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 Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 5:49 PM
 To:   css discuss
 Subject:  help! dropdowns were working but have stopped in ie7
 
 Hi,
 
 My drop downs have stopped working in this store:
 http://www.prayerbookstore.com
 
 They were working in ie7 and the top was centered but my browser is
 showing it off to the left and the menu dropdowns are not working. Works
 fine in mozilla and netscape.
 
 Can someone please confirm this? I may be having a cache problem or
 something.
 
 Sincerely,
 Melinda Odom
 Design Hosting, Inc.
 www.designhosting.biz
 479-471-0891
 
 
 
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[css-d] positioning guidance

2007-08-24 Thread JGardner
Well, I am finally working on my own site.  I want three boxes lined up next to 
each other (the light blue boxes).  I tried floating them but somehow that made 
them go into the footer (which has a red border on it while I am trying to 
figure this all out).  So then I absolutely positioned them inside a relatively 
positioned div.  Now the footer is up behind the boxes.  

Does anyone have a suggestion or a good link for a tutorial that will help me 
figure this out?

Thanks,
Jennifer




   

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Re: [css-d] help! dropdowns were working but have stopped in ie7

2007-08-24 Thread David Laakso
Melinda Odom wrote:
 Hi,

 I found the problem...this page was edited and a different doctype was put
 in and as soon as I changed it to:
 !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN
http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd;

 everything started working again in ie7 and probably ie6 but don't have that
 one to test.

 Sincerely,
 Melinda Odom
   


Melinda,

Yes, I'd say you found the culprit-- rendering fairly consistently now 
in ie6 and ie7 on xp (and in safari and camino).

~d
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