Re: [css-d] centering divs within divs / jumping columns

2008-04-04 Thread David Laakso
Stuart King wrote:
 If I have a 2 column layout with a footer.

 The content background is 780px by 412px.

 How do I make sure that the content div is the same dimensions, even with
 little content (I want the entire background to show)

 example:

 http://www.triviumwine.com/continuum_site/pages/vision.html

 Underneath this - how do I place the footer.

 thank you.
   




1/ Backup your entire current CSS for the above page in case you need to 
go back to it.

2/ Replace your entire current CSS for the above page with this:

html, body {
margin : 0;
padding : 0;
}

body {
background-color : #fff;
color : #493415;
font : 100%/1.8 Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
text-align : center;
}
#outerWrapper #contentWrapper {
overflow : hidden;
border : 1px solid red;
}
* html #outerWrapper #contentWrapper {
overflow : visible;
border : 1px solid red;
} /*for ie/6*/
img {
display : block;
}
h1 {
color : #960711;
font-size : 120%;
font-weight : normal;
line-height : 1.8;
letter-spacing : 0.4em;
}
h2 {
color : #960711;
font-size : 100%;
line-height : 1.8;
letter-spacing : 0.4em;
margin : 0;
}
p {
font-size : 90%;
font-family : Times New Roman, Times, serif;
font-style : italic;
line-height : 1.8;
text-align : center;
}
a:link {
font-size : 75%;
color : #a88243;
}
a:visited {
color : #a88243;
}
a:hover {
color : #00;
}
a:active {
color : #960711;
}
.psanserif {
color : #960711;
text-align : center;
font-style : normal;
letter-spacing : 0.2em;
}
#leftColumn1 ul {
list-style-type : none;
margin : 0;
padding : 0;
}
#leftColumn1 li a {
display : block;
color : #f9f2c7;
padding : 4px 0 4px 2px;
width : 145px;
font-size : 80%;
}
#leftColumn1 li a:hover, #leftcol li a:focus {
background-color : #6f5020;
color : #e3d7a5;
}
#leftColumn1 a#current {
background-color : #694c1e;
color : #f9f2c7;
}
#botmenu {
text-align : center;
margin : 50px 0 0 0;
font-size : 75%;
color : #a88243;
}
#outerWrapper {
margin : 50px auto 0 auto;
text-align : center;
width : 780px;
background : url(../images/cont_bk.jpg);
}
#outerWrapper #contentWrapper #leftColumn1 {
float : left;
padding : 24px 0 0;
width : 148px;
}
#outerWrapper #contentWrapper #content {
margin : 0 0 0 148px;
padding : 10px 24px 10px 24px;
}
table {
font-size : 75%;
text-align : center;
}
#outerWrapper #footer {
background-color : red;
clear : both;
}


*Note* that this was done live in the Firefox Web Developer Toolbar 
thing tand that it has not been checked.
Is this /any/ close to what you have in mind?
When you reply, please reply to the list as well as me.









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Re: [css-d] centering divs within divs / jumping columns

2008-04-04 Thread Alan K Baker
I agree. (Not about the 'brightest star'!!! g).

It works fine in IE6, IE7, Firefox, Opera and Safari, apart from Firefox 
rendering the footer with more height than you intended.

Could it be that your browser didn't refresh after you tried it when it was 
wrong?

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  - Original Message - 
  From: David Laakso 
  To: Stuart King 
  Cc: css discuss 
  Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 5:44 AM
  Subject: Re: [css-d] centering divs within divs / jumping columns


  Stuart King wrote:
  
  
   I am still having trouble. How do I get the footer down underneath the 
   wrapper. The height of the body should be 412 px with the footer 
   (CONTINUUM) directly below.
  
  
   URL
http://www.triviumwine.com/continuum_site/pages/vision.html
  
  
   thanks.
  
   --s

  I am not the brightest star in the sky so I may be missing something 
  that is obvious. But on this end, it appears that it is rendering as 
  anticipated. If you want to keep the text from heading toward South 
  America with user discretion to scale fonts, then there may be some 
  question...

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Re: [css-d] FF and IE problems

2008-04-04 Thread Andrew Doades
OK, Cheers I will remove all the table bit from around my layout and 
the just just the css to make the layout?

Cheers,
Andrew

Alan K Baker wrote:
 Sorry, I haven't time to wade through entire stylesheets tonight, but 
 assuming that your stylesheets don't do anything 'clever' with table 
 definitions, it looks as if your divs are wrapped by table/table tags 
 which AFAIK would follow each other in the HTML 'flow', so each table will 
 appear below the last regardless of the fact that you have no TRs and TDs 
 defined. This would invalidate your 'box model' flow styling.

 I suggest dumping all TABLE definitions unless you are truly using a table 
 def for a real table, and use CSS to do all of your placement.

 Regards,

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   - Original Message - 
   From: Andrew Doades 
   To: Alan K Baker 
   Cc: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org 
   Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 10:34 PM
   Subject: Re: [css-d] FF and IE problems


   In my css file:

   #sidebar {
   float:left;
   width:165px;
   border: 3px solid #aaa;
   background-color: #eee;
   margin:2px;
   padding: 1em;
   }

   #content-main {
 float:none;
 width:100%;
   }

   then in my template I just put that links and that in a div id=sidebar
   and a content-main one for content

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[css-d] Background in IE6 and 7

2008-04-04 Thread Mark Finney
Dear List,

I have a table theading (theadtrth) which has a background image set on
the tr. I also have a small arrow image set as a background image to a link
in each th to indicate the direction of sort. In FF all works as expected,
however in IE6+7 oon XP (all I have tested thus far) the th has a white bg
which hides the tr background.

I haven't found anything written on this yet, anybody know how I can make
that th background transparent? Or any articles about this?

The arrow image is set like this:

background: transparent url(../images/arrow.png) right center no-repeat;

Thanks,

Mark
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[css-d] CSS newb -- IE question

2008-04-04 Thread Jen Guthrie
I'm using the dotted attribute for borders to indicate links/nav and design a 
blog page. Does it always show up as dashed instead of dotted in IE? Seems to 
work fine in Firefox and Safari. Am I missing something? Thanks!! 
www.jacalynlee.com
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Re: [css-d] html background bug?

2008-04-04 Thread Bruno Fassino
On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 12:43 PM, Pentasis wrote:

  Set background-color of html-element to 'transparent'
  set width of body element to anything smaller than the viewport and center
  it (margin:0 auto;)
  Make sure padding of body is 0
  Apply a background color to the body element (for example red)

  Now suddenly the whole background is red, in other words, the
  background-color of the body element seeps into it's margins. But margins
  are supposed to be transparent according to the spec (I can't find an
  exception anywhere).

This is probably correct according to what is in the spec at [1], in particular:

The background of the root element becomes the background of the
canvas and covers the entire canvas...
For HTML documents, however, we recommend that authors specify the
background for the BODY element rather than the HTML element. For HTML
documents whose root HTML element has computed values of 'transparent'
for 'background-color' and 'none' for 'background-image', user agents
must instead use the computed value of those properties from that HTML
element's first BODY element child when painting backgrounds for the
canvas, and must not paint a background for that BODY element.

In short: if there is no background on HTML (i.e. it is transparent),
then the background specified on BODY is applied to the whole canvas,
not really to the BODY.

Bruno


[1] http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/colors.html#background
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[css-d] html background bug?

2008-04-04 Thread Pentasis
I am not sure if this is a bug (known or unknown) or normal bahaviour. But I
found out about it by accident and have been looking for an explanation ever
since, but can't find it.

Here is how you reproduce it:

Set background-color of html-element to 'transparent'
set width of body element to anything smaller than the viewport and center
it (margin:0 auto;)
Make sure padding of body is 0
Apply a background color to the body element (for example red)

Now suddenly the whole background is red, in other words, the
background-color of the body element seeps into it's margins. But margins
are supposed to be transparent according to the spec (I can't find an
exception anywhere).

I tested this in IE7, FF2, Opera9 and Safari3, they all display this
behaviour making me think it is normal, but according to the spec margins
should always be transparent so what is going on here???

Bert


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Re: [css-d] CSS newb -- IE question

2008-04-04 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh

On Apr 4, 2008, at 7:15 PM, Jen Guthrie wrote:
 I'm using the dotted attribute for borders to indicate links/nav  
 and design a blog page. Does it always show up as dashed instead of  
 dotted in IE? Seems to work fine in Firefox and Safari. Am I missing  
 something? Thanks!!

 www.jacalynlee.com

If by 'IE' you mean IE 6, then yes, that is the case. That works  
correctly in IE7 in standards mode at least.

PS - it is not the 'dotted' attribute, it is the 'dotted' value for  
the border(-style) property. Just nitpicking.

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Re: [css-d] CSS newb -- IE question

2008-04-04 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Jen Guthrie wrote:
 I'm using the dotted attribute for borders to indicate links/nav 
 and design a blog page. Does it always show up as dashed instead of 
 dotted in IE? Seems to work fine in Firefox and Safari. Am I missing 
 something? Thanks!! www.jacalynlee.com

They don't show up at all in IE/win at default font size.
When font is resized up they are dashed in IE6 and dotted in IE7.

Try adding 'position: relative' to the relevant anchors to make IE/win
stack them properly.

You have also triggered the em font-resizing bug in IE5 - IE7...
http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_additions_13.html
...so font-resizing gives extreme results in those versions.

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Re: [css-d] centering divs within divs / jumping columns

2008-04-04 Thread Alan Gresley
Alan K Baker wrote:

   http://www.triviumwine.com/continuum_site/pages/vision.html

 I agree. (Not about the 'brightest star'!!! g).
 
 It works fine in IE6, IE7, Firefox, Opera and Safari, apart from Firefox 
 rendering the footer with more height than you intended.
 
 Could it be that your browser didn't refresh after you tried it when it was 
 wrong?
 
 Regards, 
  
 Alan.


Alan, I suggest that you resize the text in all browsers that you are 
using to test in. It would seem the default font settings (like minimum 
font height) is different in Firefox as for the other browsers.


Seems like I repeating myself by signing off. :-)

Alan

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Re: [css-d] Background in IE6 and 7

2008-04-04 Thread Alan K Baker
IE 6 can't render .png files with alpha transparency properly. It displays the 
transparent part as white. Easiest way round that one is to replace the .png 
with a .gif.

I can't think why there should be a problem with IE7 as the .png bug is fixed 
in e versions of IE7.

Regards, 
 
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Mark Finney 
  To: CSS Mailing List 
  Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 9:54 AM
  Subject: [css-d] Background in IE6 and 7


  Dear List,

  I have a table theading (theadtrth) which has a background image set on
  the tr. I also have a small arrow image set as a background image to a link
  in each th to indicate the direction of sort. In FF all works as expected,
  however in IE6+7 oon XP (all I have tested thus far) the th has a white bg
  which hides the tr background.

  I haven't found anything written on this yet, anybody know how I can make
  that th background transparent? Or any articles about this?

  The arrow image is set like this:

  background: transparent url(../images/arrow.png) right center no-repeat;

  Thanks,

  Mark
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Re: [css-d] **VL-JUNK** W3C and opacity in IE7

2008-04-04 Thread David Laakso
Stephen Davis wrote:
 Is their any way of fixing CSS to achieve validation for the opacity property 
 used by IE, I get parser error for filter:alpha(opacity=50) and several other 
 opacitys'.
 http://www.arithmetic.890m.com

 regards
 steve
   



Yes. Feed those rulesets to IE in conditional comments. Scroll down a 
little to see conditional comments on this page [1].
Note this will not make those rules valid: it will simply hide them from 
the w3c CSS Validation Service.

[1] http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/onhavinglayout.html#hack

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Re: [css-d] Background in IE6 and 7

2008-04-04 Thread Alan Gresley
Mark Finney wrote:

 Dear List,
 
 I have a table theading (theadtrth) which has a background image set on
 the tr. I also have a small arrow image set as a background image to a link
 in each th to indicate the direction of sort. In FF all works as expected,
 however in IE6+7 oon XP (all I have tested thus far) the th has a white bg
 which hides the tr background.
 
 I haven't found anything written on this yet, anybody know how I can make
 that th background transparent? Or any articles about this?
 
 The arrow image is set like this:
 
 background: transparent url(../images/arrow.png) right center no-repeat;
 
 Thanks,
 
 Mark


Check your CSS and see if you have this.

background: transparent url(../images/arrow.png)right center no-repeat;

There is no whitespace between png)right and this would cause IE5~IE7 
to throw such a background string out.

Can you put up a live test case showing the problem?


Alan

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Re: [css-d] Need Help with Simple Three Column Layout

2008-04-04 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Carol Huddleston wrote:

 I'm trying to make a simple three-column layout, with a sidebar on  
 either side of a central column of content. I have the markup and the  
 CSS exactly as the book describes, but the sidebars both hang down  
 below the content column.

 http://home.comcast.net/~prairiedream/beginning/

The book must either be wrong, or you've interpreted it wrongly.
Sidebar a and b can't float up in content's margins.

To make it work you'll have to change the order in the markup so content 
comes after both sidebars in the markup.
That'll give you this...
http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/alien/ch/test_08_0404.html

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Re: [css-d] Need Help with Simple Three Column Layout

2008-04-04 Thread Shlomi
Hi,
If you move the content div after the sidebar divs in the html it works.
hope I helped.

Shlomi.

Quote Carol Huddleston:
 ...
 I'm trying to make a simple three-column layout, with a sidebar on 
 either side of a central column of content. I have the markup and the 
 CSS exactly as the book describes, but the sidebars both hang down 
 below the content column. According to the book, all three columns 
 should be lined up on FF and Safari (but not IE 5 or 5.5). Can anyone 
 see the problem?

 Here is the page:

 http://home.comcast.net/~prairiedream/beginning/

 and here is the CSS:

 http://home.comcast.net/~prairiedream/beginning/columns.css

 Thanks very much for your help!

 Carol

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[css-d] float right, then on next line float right

2008-04-04 Thread Daniel Kessler
I'm trying to make a new template for my site by starting over and  
replicating the way that the old site looked.

On the top, I'm trying to have a few elements align right within a  
container, then another item aligned right below it, then an item  
aligned left.  I'm just learning css and I'm having problems floating  
right, but still putting items on different lines.

Here's what I have:
http://sph.umd.edu/includes/header_top_lvl2_a_test.cfm

I want the login button on a second line, still on the right but  
under the search features.  Then on a third line, the logo on the  
left.  I'm trying to get it to look like the top of:
http://sph.umd.edu/home/blank.cfm

I can get it to work by setting a pixel height to the class  
search_block, but that feels more like a hack.  It seems to me that  
this is really a problem with the way that I set up the flow.


Any assistance would be appreciated.


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Re: [css-d] space in horizontal nav

2008-04-04 Thread Matt Tibbits
I also forgot to mention that it only shows when you hover over the link...
if that helps any.


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Re: [css-d] float right, then on next line float right

2008-04-04 Thread David Laakso
Daniel Kessler wrote:

 http://sph.umd.edu/includes/header_top_lvl2_a_test.cfm

 I want the login button on a second line, still on the right but  
 under the search features.  Then on a third line, the logo on the  
 left.  I'm trying to get it to look like the top of:
 http://sph.umd.edu/home/blank.cfm


   




Try:
div.container {border: 1px solid red;overflow: hidden; /*add to current 
selector*/}
img {float: left;clear:both;/*add ruleset to style sheet*/}


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Re: [css-d] Need Help with Simple Three Column Layout

2008-04-04 Thread Carol Huddleston
Thank you all for your help! The book is right and has the markup  
listed in the right order. When I followed along, I modified some  
previous markup that I already had typed in, and didn't realize that  
the order was important. So much to remember!

Thanks again,

Carol



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Re: [css-d] space in horizontal nav

2008-04-04 Thread David Laakso
Matt Tibbits wrote:
 I also forgot to mention that it only shows when you hover over the link...
 if that helps any.


   





Dunno. Validate the markup and bring it back.

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Re: [css-d] Anchor tags

2008-04-04 Thread Alan K Baker
Hi. Thanks for the reply.

I had started to think along these lines, but not actually worked it out. :-)

I've tried what you suggest and it works fine in IE7, Firefox, Opera and 
Safari, however it refuses to work in IE 6. Any ideas?

Here's the code:

htmlbody!-- . Some stuff. --
div id=selectablea href=scripts/welcome.html/a/div
!-- As a temporary measure for IE6 --
!--[if lte IE 6]div id=clickentera href=scripts/welcome.htmlPlease 
click here to enter/a/div![endif]--
/body/html

/* CSS */

#selectable a {
background-image: url(../images/logos/trans1px.gif);
width: 100%;
height:100%;
display: block;
z-index: 1;
position:absolute;
bottom:0;
}

selectable a:hover {
background-image: url(../images/logos/trans1px.gif);
}

Regards, 
 
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Alan Gresley 
  To: Alan K Baker 
  Cc: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org 
  Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 6:15 AM
  Subject: Re: [css-d] Anchor tags


  Alan K Baker wrote:

   Hi all.
   
   I have a need for an entire index page to be contained within an anchor, so 
that anyone visiting the site would have to simply click anywhere within the 
page to bring up the next screen.
   
   As a tags can't contain divs , does anyone have a technique to achieve 
this?
   
   Regards,
   
   Alan.


  At the end of you source code insert a anchor within a container that 
  has no position whatsoever. Then style this anchor with.

  a.selectable {
  width: 100%;
  height:100%;
  display: block;
  z-index: 1;
  position: absolute;
  bottom:0;
  }

  And for all versions of IE use this.

  a.selectable:hover {
 background-image: url(transparent-1by1px.png);
  }

  If the page is higher than the viewpoint you may wish to have it 
  position fixed for the better browsers.


  Alan

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Re: [css-d] space in horizontal nav

2008-04-04 Thread Alan Gresley
Matt Tibbits wrote:

 I also forgot to mention that it only shows when you hover over the link...
 if that helps any.


Firstly IE has a whitespace bug with list [1] [2]. I think this is due 
to IE wanting to show the list default padding and margins different to 
all other browsers. All versions of IE will show strange jumps when 
anchor links are hovered but for many weird reasons.

Do you have a URL? If one have already been provided then the URL should 
always be shown in each response in a thread.


[1] http://www.brunildo.org/test/IE8b1_li_float_space.html
[2] http://css-class.com/test/bugs/ie/listitemsfloatsandmargins.htm


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Re: [css-d] hr / styling

2008-04-04 Thread Manfred Staudinger
  I just found another bug in Firefox 2.0.0.13 which I haven't seen listed 
 anywhere else.

  If I style hr / as follows: hr {color:red;} it does appear as red and 
 displays correctly in most browsers.
  However, in Firefox it displays, but with an enormous amount of top and 
 bottom padding.
  This also causes problems with floats, which tend to float upwards and 
 partially cover the horizontal rule, leaving a large gap where the float sits.

  The good news is that it can be cured. :-)

  Just add margin:0; padding:0; to the hr style and all's well.
Your problem description is not conclusive so can you show this in a
link? You say an enormous amount of top and bottom padding, but
later on you set also _margin_ = 0?
And what is enormous in pixels?

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Re: [css-d] Anchor tags

2008-04-04 Thread Alan Gresley
Alan K Baker wrote:

 Hi. Thanks for the reply.
 
 I had started to think along these lines, but not actually worked it out. :-)
 
 I've tried what you suggest and it works fine in IE7, Firefox, Opera and 
 Safari, however it refuses to work in IE 6. Any ideas?
 
 Here's the code:
 
 htmlbody!-- . Some stuff. --
 div id=selectablea href=scripts/welcome.html/a/div
 !-- As a temporary measure for IE6 --
 !--[if lte IE 6]div id=clickentera href=scripts/welcome.htmlPlease 
 click here to enter/a/div![endif]--
 /body/html
 
 /* CSS */
 
 #selectable a {
 background-image: url(../images/logos/trans1px.gif);
 width: 100%;
 height:100%;
 display: block;
 z-index: 1;
 position:absolute;
 bottom:0;
 }
 
 selectable a:hover {
 background-image: url(../images/logos/trans1px.gif);
 }
 
 Regards, 
  
 Alan.


Alan can you please stop top posting. It's make it hard to follow a 
thread. Observe how I have my replied underneath your message.


BTW, you changed my code. I had.

a.selectable {
width: 100%;
height:100%;
display: block;
z-index: 1;
position: absolute;
bottom:0;
}

And for all versions of IE use this.

a.selectable:hover {
   background-image: url(transparent-1by1px.png);
}


This is the solution I have used here.

http://css-class.com/x/list-items-and-hover.htm

and similar

http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/alien/lin/test_08_0312.html

though Georg's example shows the list whitespace bug in IE8. 


Also you have

selectable a:hover


shouldn't that be

#selectable a:hover


What you want in your source is this


html
body

div id=wrapper
!-- . Some stuff. --

a class=selectable href=scripts/welcome.html/a
/div

/body
/html


Alan

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[css-d] Centering DIV block without setting its width.

2008-04-04 Thread Yuri
A newbie question:

I am trying to center a DIV block without specifying its width
explicitly: I'd like the width to depend on DIV's contents. I set
'display' property to 'table' as shown below:


html
  headtitleCentering DIV/title/head
  body
div style=margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; display: table
  hello!
/div
  /body
/html


This works (at least in Firefox and Opera) but I'm not sure if this is a
correct technique.  Is there a right way do center a block without
setting its width property explicitly?

Thanks in advance,
Yuri


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Re: [css-d] float right, then on next line float right

2008-04-04 Thread Daniel Kessler
This worked.  I also applied clear:both; to my login class and it  
helped there too.
Reading up on Clear helped my understanding of float, so thanks for  
that too.

Luckily work has approved for me to buy some css books and study up.

Thank you very much.  Have a good weekend!

On Apr 4, 2008, at 12:13 PM, David Laakso wrote:
 Daniel Kessler wrote:

 http://sph.umd.edu/includes/header_top_lvl2_a_test.cfm

 I want the login button on a second line, still on the right but   
 under the search features.  Then on a third line, the logo on the   
 left.  I'm trying to get it to look like the top of:
 http://sph.umd.edu/home/blank.cfm




 Try:
 div.container {border: 1px solid red;overflow: hidden; /*add to  
 current selector*/}
 img {float: left;clear:both;/*add ruleset to style sheet*/}



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Re: [css-d] IE6 and IE7 on the same machine

2008-04-04 Thread Katherine Coynor
Don't think so.  When I tried to use both on my desktop the machine
developed something like an allergic reaction to IE six. If anybody wants
details I'll do my best to explain, but in answer to Cristain's question:
nope, can't be done.

Stoopid Micro$oft.

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 Hi,

 Can I install on my Win XP SP2 PC Internet Explorer 7 but keeping the
 IE6 for test purposes?

 Thanks

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Re: [css-d] IE6 and IE7 on the same machine

2008-04-04 Thread Ben Fider
works fine for me, all day long:

This contains everything except IE 7: http://tredosoft.com/Multiple_IE
This contains IE 7: http://tredosoft.com/IE7_standalone

On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 2:07 PM, Katherine Coynor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Don't think so.  When I tried to use both on my desktop the machine
 developed something like an allergic reaction to IE six. If anybody wants
 details I'll do my best to explain, but in answer to Cristain's question:
 nope, can't be done.

 Stoopid Micro$oft.

 On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 12:44 PM, Cristian Palmas 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

  Hi,
 
  Can I install on my Win XP SP2 PC Internet Explorer 7 but keeping the
  IE6 for test purposes?
 
  Thanks
 
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[css-d] Conceptual problems with the doctype

2008-04-04 Thread Rachel Mawhood
Hello

Validating the html on a site built this week, and the only remaining 
uncorrected error is to do with the doctype.  I don't understand the 
instruction: I tried putting in the line the validator says is 
missing but that produced a new error.

At the moment I have

!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd;

If I have to add

html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; xml:lang=en lang=en

where does it go, and doesn't that mean two closing /html tags at 
the foot of the page instead of the normal one?

URL, if needed (this is the development area - there is a temporary 
page on the client's domain www.egg-skelter.co.uk)

http://www.longitude0.co.uk/egg-skelter/development/index.php

TVIA
Rachel


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Re: [css-d] Conceptual problems with the doctype

2008-04-04 Thread Alan K Baker
- Original Message - 
  From: Rachel Mawhood 
  To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org 
  Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 8:17 PM
  Subject: [css-d] Conceptual problems with the doctype


  Hello

  Validating the html on a site built this week, and the only remaining 
  uncorrected error is to do with the doctype.  I don't understand the 
  instruction: I tried putting in the line the validator says is 
  missing but that produced a new error.

  At the moment I have

  !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN
  http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd;

  If I have to add

  html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; xml:lang=en lang=en

  where does it go, and doesn't that mean two closing /html tags at 
  the foot of the page instead of the normal one?

  URL, if needed (this is the development area - there is a temporary 
  page on the client's domain www.egg-skelter.co.uk)

  http://www.longitude0.co.uk/egg-skelter/development/index.php

  TVIA
  Rachel

  On two lines like this:

  !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN 
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd;
  html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml;
  head

  will work fine.

  Regards, 
   
  Alan.
   
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Re: [css-d] IE6 and IE7 on the same machine

2008-04-04 Thread Alan K Baker
- Original Message - 
  From: Ben Fider 
  To: Katherine Coynor 
  Cc: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org 
  Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 8:11 PM
  Subject: Re: [css-d] IE6 and IE7 on the same machine


  works fine for me, all day long:

  This contains everything except IE 7: http://tredosoft.com/Multiple_IE
  This contains IE 7: http://tredosoft.com/IE7_standalone



  Yes it does. I also use it all day long. One word of warning. When you 
install it, make sure that nothing else is running. It screwed up my network 
connections, because I forgot and left IE7 running.
  A tweak and a re-boot eventually fixed it. :-)

  Regards, 
   
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[css-d] urgent - deadline: background image in list doesn't change

2008-04-04 Thread Luc
Good afternoon list,

I needed to make my backgound image on my nav menu bigger, but it
only kicks in on one page. The image is set in my stylesheet. As i'm
on a real urgent deadline, i'm probably overlooking something obvious
but can somebody take a look and see what's missing?

Much obliged!

http://www.mendesperestransportes.com.br/Pages/equipamentos.php

http://www.mendesperestransportes.com.br/Styles/MP.css
 
 
  
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Re: [css-d] IE6 and IE7 on the same machine

2008-04-04 Thread Katherine Coynor
Damn, this is slick!  Thanks!

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 - Original Message -
  From: Ben Fider
  To: Katherine Coynor
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  Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 8:11 PM
  Subject: Re: [css-d] IE6 and IE7 on the same machine


   works fine for me, all day long:

  This contains everything except IE 7: http://tredosoft.com/Multiple_IE
  This contains IE 7: http://tredosoft.com/IE7_standalone



   Yes it does. I also use it all day long. One word of warning. When you
 install it, make sure that nothing else is running. It screwed up my network
 connections, because I forgot and left IE7 running.
  A tweak and a re-boot eventually fixed it. :-)

  Regards,

  Alan.

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[css-d] Still nav problems (background seems fine)

2008-04-04 Thread Luc
Good afternoon list,

Still having problems with my nav the background image seems to
be working but between Equipamentos Transportados and Nossa Frota
is a gap i can't seem to get rid off. Also, the border at the right
side of Equipamentos is bigger then it should be. What's puzzling
me is that it seems to be just that li...

Also, what would be the best way to have the text of the li's in the
nav centered vertically? Adjusting padding with another ruleset,
presuming i can't do it in the ul ruleset?

Sorry for the maybe easy questions but i'm in a real pickle here 

http://www.mendesperestransportes.com.br/Pages/equipamentos.php

http://www.mendesperestransportes.com.br/Styles/MP.css

The section to look for is at the bottom of the stylesheet, commented 
/*Navigation*/

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Re: [css-d] Still nav problems (background seems fine)

2008-04-04 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Luc wrote:

 Still having problems with my nav the background image seems to 
 be working but between Equipamentos Transportados and Nossa Frota
  is a gap i can't seem to get rid off. Also, the border at the right 
 side of Equipamentos is bigger then it should be. What's puzzling 
 me is that it seems to be just that li...

 http://www.mendesperestransportes.com.br/Pages/equipamentos.php

Not enough background-image vertically for two text-lines, so the
missing part appears as a gap.

Make that:

#navcontainer li {
background : transparent url(../Images/navbackgroundbig.gif) repeat-y 0
0.1em;
margin : 0.5em;
/* no height */
}

...and there will be no gap. I think that answers your second question
too, if I understood you correctly.
Centering text in _equal-height_ li's requires an HTML table for nav,
since IE7 and older don't support CSS table.

Please don't keep changing things when you ask for help. It's impossible
to debug a moving target.

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Re: [css-d] Centering DIV block without setting its width.

2008-04-04 Thread Yuri
Hi Benjamin,

Thank you for your response.

 If you want the text (and other inline elements) inside this DIV to be
 centered you could set text-align to center. However, I'm guessing you
 don't want that precisely. 

This is true, I'd like only the container to be centered.

 I'm not sure I understand why you wouldn't
 want to set a width explicitly if you know you want it to be centered.

The DIV block holds a table with varying number of columns and some 
other elements that I'd like to keep together with the table.  If it were 
just a table it would not be a problem because of the way the widths are 
computed.

http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/tables.html#width-layout

 Oh, and the display: table settings are not very well supported at the
 moment. I'd steer clear of them for now.

This is my concern too.  I'll probably think of something different.  Thanks 
again for your response.

Yuri

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Re: [css-d] Still nav problems (background seems fine)

2008-04-04 Thread Kepler Gelotte
 Out of curiosity... is your message just to me intended or domething
 went wrong with you replying to the list?

Hi Luc,

I belong to 2 lists and the other only requires me to reply to sender. This
list requires me to reply to all. So to answer your question it was meant
for the list. One of these days I'll screw my head on right.

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Re: [css-d] WAS: urgent - deadline: background image in list doesn't change

2008-04-04 Thread Cristian Palmas
2008/4/4, Luc [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Good afternoon list,

   Seem i was to hasty on the mail trigger... need to adjust my
   paddings and margins it seems  sorry to waste everybody's time!!!

  --
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   Luc

Asking questions and sharing informations is never a waste of time.
Don't worry about it.
Glad to know you fixed your problems.
Goodnight.

(Well, in Italy is actually night...)

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[css-d] Links in floating div aren't working in FF

2008-04-04 Thread Darren Best
(First time poster here.  Hope you can help me!)

I'm an amateur coder, asked to overhaul an existing website for a non-profit
in Ontario (http://www.unemployedhelp.on.ca).  The website is a mess of
nested tables and font tags.  They want me to retain the look of the site,
but make a CSS-based design (primarily so it is better accessible to screen
readers, but also so that it is more maintainable, content wise).

I've posted a couple of pages of my re-designed site at
http://www.darrenbest.com/DRUHC/clientguide.html and
http://www.darrenbest.com/DRUHC/clientguide1.html . The (admittedly
cluttered) stylesheet is at
http://www.darrenbest.com/DRUHC/images/clientstyle.css (I'll clean it up a
bit when I'm done).

Comparing the output of my pages in Firefox 2 and IE6 yields a few
differences.  Normally, I've been getting results I expect in FF and having
to figure out IE, but this time I don't know what's up with FF.

My issue is with the navigation boxes on the right side (within a div named
ogeNav).  In my style sheet, I have the following:

   #ogeNav {
   float: right;
   margin: 10px 125px 10px 10px;
   width: 165px;
   }
   * html #ogeNav {display:inline;} /* IE6 hack*/

This makes the elements placed properly, but here's the problem: the links
within this floated div work in IE at all times, but in FF the links are
covered by the main text of the page.  On the clientguide1.html page,
none of the links work since the main content is taller than the floating
div.  But on clientguide.html, the content only goes down a short
distance: the links in the floating div work from the point of Start now!
down, but won't work from that point up.

Can I do anything to make the main text not cover the floating div in
Firefox?  Thanks in advance.

Darren Best
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[css-d] Almost there!! But my nav buttons in IE...

2008-04-04 Thread tmesa.mesadesignhouse
In IE7 (I haven't checked IE6 yet), the button images are separating  
from each other, but in FF/Safari, they're not. They're NOT supposed  
to separate from each other, so they're supposed to look like they do  
in FF.

Can anyone help me with this IE issue?

BTW, I validate - CSS and HTML.

I took Gunlaug's suggestion and put the background into one image.  
However, now I'm going to need to slice it in two so it can expand  
vertically with a tile image. I'll cross that bridge when I get to it.

http://mdh-test.com/Quiel/index2.shtml
http://mdh-test.com/Quiel/quiel.css


Theresa Mesa
Mesa Design House
http://mesadesignhouse.com
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Re: [css-d] Links in floating div aren't working in FF

2008-04-04 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh

On Apr 5, 2008, at 11:58 AM, Darren Best wrote:
 (First time poster here.  Hope you can help me!)

Welcome.

 I've posted a couple of pages of my re-designed site at
 http://www.darrenbest.com/DRUHC/clientguide.html and
 http://www.darrenbest.com/DRUHC/clientguide1.html . The (admittedly
 cluttered) stylesheet is at
 http://www.darrenbest.com/DRUHC/images/clientstyle.css (I'll clean  
 it up a
 bit when I'm done).

 Comparing the output of my pages in Firefox 2 and IE6 yields a few
 differences.  Normally, I've been getting results I expect in FF and  
 having
 to figure out IE, but this time I don't know what's up with FF.

 My issue is with the navigation boxes on the right side (within a  
 div named
 ogeNav).  In my style sheet, I have the following:

The problem is this:

#supportingText {
position: relative; /* -- Here
margin: 0 125px 0 200px;
padding: 0 0 0 0;
}
making your container relative positioned kind of pulls it up (layers  
it) in front of the floated side bar.
Add a background-color to #supportingText, and you'll see what happens.

Removing 'position:relative' solves the problem.

Philippe
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Re: [css-d] Almost there!! But my nav buttons in IE...

2008-04-04 Thread Alan K Baker
This works in IE6 and IE7:

!--[if IE]style#containerLeft img {margin: 0 0 -3px 0;padding: 
0;}/style![endif]--

but it's a bit of a 'dirty' fix. :-)
Might give you something to work on.

I must say that I would prefer to see the link buttons generated in a list. You 
can then alter the list element margins to suit, and (for me) it works in all 
browsers. You could also change the shading on each button to reflect the hover 
and active states, by image displacement. See: www.michaelwooldridge.co.uk

Regards, 
 
Alan.
 
www.theatreorgans.co.uk
www.virtualtheatreorgans.com
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Shopsmith 520 + bits
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  - Original Message - 
  From: tmesa.mesadesignhouse 
  To: CSS-D List 
  Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 4:00 AM
  Subject: [css-d] Almost there!! But my nav buttons in IE...


  In IE7 (I haven't checked IE6 yet), the button images are separating  
  from each other, but in FF/Safari, they're not. They're NOT supposed  
  to separate from each other, so they're supposed to look like they do  
  in FF.

  Can anyone help me with this IE issue?

  BTW, I validate - CSS and HTML.

  I took Gunlaug's suggestion and put the background into one image.  
  However, now I'm going to need to slice it in two so it can expand  
  vertically with a tile image. I'll cross that bridge when I get to it.

  http://mdh-test.com/Quiel/index2.shtml
  http://mdh-test.com/Quiel/quiel.css


  Theresa Mesa
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Re: [css-d] Anchor tags

2008-04-04 Thread Alan K Baker
- Original Message - 
  From: Alan Gresley 
  To: Alan K Baker 
  Cc: css-d 
  Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 7:17 PM
  Subject: Re: [css-d] Anchor tags


  Alan can you please stop top posting. It's make it hard to follow a 
  thread. Observe how I have my replied underneath your message.


  BTW, you changed my code. I had.

  a.selectable {
  width: 100%;
  height:100%;
  display: block;
  z-index: 1;
  position: absolute;
  bottom:0;
  }

  And for all versions of IE use this.

  a.selectable:hover {
 background-image: url(transparent-1by1px.png);
  }


  This is the solution I have used here.

  http://css-class.com/x/list-items-and-hover.htm

  and similar

  http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/alien/lin/test_08_0312.html

  though Georg's example shows the list whitespace bug in IE8. 


  Also you have

  selectable a:hover


  shouldn't that be

  #selectable a:hover


  What you want in your source is this


  html
  body

  div id=wrapper
  !-- . Some stuff. --

  a class=selectable href=scripts/welcome.html/a
  /div

  /body
  /html


  Alan

  
-

  As a courtesy to you I have 'bottom' posted, but 'top posting' is my 'style'. 
No-one else has a problem with it, and I can't keep changing it to suit 
everyone. :-)

  Yes, I did alter your code because at first it would not work in any browser, 
which may have been something to do with where I placed the HTML.
  I've tried your code again and I've tried variations on it, but it still 
won't work in IE6 and IE7 does 'strange' things! I have a header which is 
positioned 'absolute', a container (with a background image) that is floated 
left, and another container which is positioned 'absolute'. The last container 
has four foreground images in boxes with borders on two sides, which are 
positioned 'absolute'. The cursor will not become 'active' until it is hovered 
over the border on any one of the images, and when it is moved out of the 
immediate area of the holding container, it de-activates. I've tried removing 
the float on the LH container, but then your code doesn't work at all.

  The live site is at: www.allsaintshove.org with my altered code. Please 
excuse the religious content, I'm working on the website as a favour. :-)

  Regards, 
   
  Alan.
   
  www.theatreorgans.co.uk
  www.virtualtheatreorgans.com
  Admin: ConnArtistes, UKShopsmiths, 2nd Touch  A-P groups
  Shopsmith 520 + bits
  Flatulus Antiquitus
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