Re: [css-d] Could browsers miss CSS declarations?
Usamah al-Amin wrote: Browsers usually miss downloading images, due to some network issues. Usually is a strong word, but I guess you are referring to some particular browsing conditions. But I've never come to see browsers miss interpreting CSS declarations. Is that, technically speaking, possible? It surely is. Check the CSS Caveats: http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/css-caveats.html Maybe I should add a caveat which is very important though self-evident to experienced authors: Browsers may ignore CSS constructs that violate CSS syntax, and they _must_ do so according to certain rules. Even a tiny typo can be essential. The most obvious example in my head is CSS background colors. Lets say this CSS style rule is declared on a web page: body { background: #dedede url(header.jpg) no-repeat top center; } Is there a URL for a page that has such a rule and fails to render the background color? It could very possibly to miss downloading the header image, but could it possible to miss applying the background color (#dedede) for some odd reason? Well, the background setting could be overriden by some other style sheet, or it might have no visible effect if everything in body is inside an element with a background color of its own, etc. But I don't think a browser could just casually fail to render the background color for a reason comparable to failure to use background image because it is not available due to network congestion, for example. If the style sheet is external, the browser might fail to get it _at all_. Jukka K. Korpela (Yucca) http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Could browsers miss CSS declarations?
On 06/05/2008, at 5:45 PM, Usamah al-Amin wrote: body { background: #dedede url(header.jpg) no-repeat top center; } It could very possibly to miss downloading the header image, but could it possible to miss applying the background color (#dedede) for some odd reason? Check to make sure any css declarations that appear before the one in question are properly terminated. A missing semicolon ( ; ) or missing curly brace ( } ) could easily prevent the rest of the sheet from being parsed. Or if the hex for the RBG color values is missing a character (typo) it could mess the color up completely. Similarly look out for case mis-matching with file names on servers with the image name, and make sure you're 100% sure of the path to the css file. If the body declaration is at the top of the style sheet and everything is syntactically correct I'd be suspicious that the style sheet itself is not loading - which usually comes back to path or filename mismatch issues. Again this is only speculation without a live URL to check ... Good luck, KathyW. __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Trouble with positioning
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Yeah i think that does fix it. Ill take a look at the code somemore when i get to work but i opened it up on my wifes windows machine and it looks the same. Thanks a lot! I figured i needed to use floats but i was having trouble with getting them right so i started using absolute positioning and it was working so i went with it and then checked the other browsers and i was like dang... David Laakso wrote: | Jonathan Pulley wrote: | | I am redesigning my site and ive got the front layout pretty much like i want it when displayed in Mozilla Firefox on Linux but when viewed on Windows in either IE or Firefox its all messed up. | Site: http://dev-whiteguardian.whiteguardian.net/ | CSS: http://dev-whiteguardian.whiteguardian.net/css/layout.css | | | | | | | Structural layout positioning is best left to using floats. Once that structure is established, absolute positioning of elements within the base structure is often easily achieved. At this point, though, I think just using floats may resolve the problem cross-browser for your layout: perhaps, something like this... | http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/cssd/b.html | | | -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIIEIAr6JzES8lQK0RAjetAKDGpDLapX7NWnYpODxKctxdxCapjACgrWZS 0Alz1LtBQs0J2vrQan9TtsA= =7frL -END PGP SIGNATURE- __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] Expandable Divs
Hi all, I have a situation where 2 divs are sitting next to each other (floated left and right), sometime the right div is not required and it is not shown, is it possible for the left div to take over that place left by the right div? Thanks. __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] HTML source editing in textarea for RTL languages
Here's an issue that's been puzzling my mind for a few days: How do speakers of RTL languages use an online HTML source editor? Take this example: http://lensco.be/lensco.be/test/html_in_RTL_textarea/ It's nothing more than a bit of valid html inside a textarea. This is the way virtually all online HTML source editors work. But in an RTL context, the display is utterly wrong. It doesn't matter which language you type or what browser you use, the link markup *looks* wrong. I had to investigate this deeper, so I installed a Hebrew version of Wordpress locally. Now whether you use the visual editor or the plain HTML source editor, when you put in a link (or some other html tag with attributes), the markup *looks* completely wrong. Have a look: http://lensco.be/lensco.be/test/html_in_RTL_textarea/wordpress_editor.png I emphasized the fact that it looks wrong, because if you save this, the output will be 100% correct and valid HTML. Now, I don't question the fact that the browsers do behave like they should do by the book, but it makes me wonder if it's impossible/impractical to use an online HTML editor in RTL languages? (I'm asking this because we use a homemade translate tool at work that has some bits of HTML mixed with the text. Our Arabic translator was going nuts over all the cut up markup.) __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Implementing float: center;
No. I want fixed center, liquid secondary. Three versions (Georg Sortun) depending on the source order you seek: http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/moa_27a.html http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/moa_27b.html http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/moa_27c.html Now this *is* what I want. When I saw this topic come up I was hoping to see a solution where the float:center item has text flowing around both sides of the item, such as this: Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit. Ut elit arcu, egestas et, bibendum fermentum, consequat a, sem. Curabitur felis diam, elementum eget, dictum ** quis, elementum quis, est. Sed porta vehicula ** lorem. Curabitur in dui vel eros fringilla *float:--* vulputate. Mauris mi lectus, mattis vitae, *-center-* tristique eget, laoreet ut, nunc. Pellentesque ** sodales, sapien sit amet malesuada congue, orci ** neque aliquam augue, quis tincidunt quam nisi nec turpis. Morbi non odio. Maecenas a nisi. Maecenas eget orci. Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit. Anyone know of a way to do this? Mark __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] :: CSS Code Readibility ::
Hi, I was reading this article on Smashing Magazine which shows how to increase code readability, http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2008/05/02/improving-code-readability-with-css-styleguides/ but I have listened to Andy Clarke over Lynda.com saying that one should save the white space as it increases the file size. Which approach is better? Should we go for code readability as described by Smashing Magazine or follow what Andy said. Thanks, Amrinder Freelance Web-Standard Designer www.awayback.com __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] :: CSS Code Readibility ::
Which approach is better? Should we go for code readability as described by Smashing Magazine or follow what Andy said. Hi, I have a free download which will compress your CSS files on the server automatically. This way you can develop as you normally would but when the user's browser requests the CSS file, all whitespace and comments will be removed as well as Gzip encoding will be enabled. Another feature is you can combine CSS files on the server using an @include directive instead of @import which requires the browser to make multiple GET requests. You can download the code and documentation here: http://www.coolphptools.com/dynamic_css Best regards, Kepler Gelotte Neighbor Webmaster, Inc. 156 Normandy Dr., Piscataway, NJ 08854 www.neighborwebmaster.com www.coolphptools.com phone/fax: (732) 302-0904 __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Implementing float: center;
On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 9:32 AM, Mark Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No. I want fixed center, liquid secondary. Three versions (Georg Sortun) depending on the source order you seek: http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/moa_27a.html http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/moa_27b.html http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/moa_27c.html Now this *is* what I want. When I saw this topic come up I was hoping to see a solution where the float:center item has text flowing around both sides of the item, such as this: Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit. Ut elit arcu, egestas et, bibendum fermentum, consequat a, sem. Curabitur felis diam, elementum eget, dictum ** quis, elementum quis, est. Sed porta vehicula ** lorem. Curabitur in dui vel eros fringilla *float:--* vulputate. Mauris mi lectus, mattis vitae, *-center-* tristique eget, laoreet ut, nunc. Pellentesque ** sodales, sapien sit amet malesuada congue, orci ** neque aliquam augue, quis tincidunt quam nisi nec turpis. Morbi non odio. Maecenas a nisi. Maecenas eget orci. Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit. Anyone know of a way to do this? Ah, true. I guess this isn't exactly what I wanted either. There is one thing that might get this closer. Georg's examples have an extra div inside the 50% width side1 / side2. See: div id=side2 div pa side column #8211; bthird/b in source./p /div /div I think if you remove that div so that it's like: div id=side2 a side column #8211; bthird/b in source. /div the text doesn't flow around, it goes *under*. Now however, because the width of the center div is fixed, you could float: left a div of half the size just to push the text out from under that area. Do the same on the left side with a float: right. That will give you two columns of text which still isn't exactly what we want but the text should flow around the center element. Mike __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Implementing float: center;
Mark Richards wrote: When I saw this topic come up I was hoping to see a solution where the float:center item has text flowing around both sides of the item... In short: can't be done with CSS - yet. You can take IE/win's resizing weaknesses out of this... http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/tmp/floatspacer.html ...and get a two-column solution, but that is as good as it gets. regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] : CSS Code Readibility ::
This is one of those 'Horses for Courses' arguments. Having been a programmer in machine code which had to fit onto 1K (yes 1K !!!) ROMs, I've been used to byte fighting and I've seen so called code optimisers, which have never been as good as the human hand. These days, life's much easier, but unfortunately, space-wasting has led to bloatware. You have to consider what the end result is to be. Is your code likely to be downloaded by folks on slow dial-up? How much code have you generated and what is the actual file size? What is the ratio of image files to text, on the site in question? Does it really matter if your visitors have to wait for a page to load? To answer that question, I cite the example of what has happened on my latest project over the last day or so. I was having problems with IE6 not always displaying large images and after discussion with Georg, I decided that it was a timeout problem due to IE6 taking too long to calculate sizes. I then defined all of the sizes for some 50 or so jpegs into the CSS, which increased the file size somewhat. It had the desired effect and instead of the increased CSS slowing things down, the benefits were remarkable. (Thanks Georg). If the site is proliferated by image files then cutting down the text (white space) will not make a significant difference and because most CSS files are relatively small in size, I don't really believe white space removal is worth the bother. You can of course use TABs to do your code formatting, which will reduce the byte count somewhat, or use an optimiser after you've finished writing your code, or one that runs on the server side. TBQH If someone asks for help on this forum and their code is sloppily formatted or compressed, I find that disrespectful to the person being asked for help, and if I'm tight for time, I would think twice before trying to read it. My vote's with 'Smashing'. :-) Regards, Alan. www.theatreorgans.co.uk www.virtualtheatreorgans.com Admin: ConnArtistes, UKShopsmiths, 2nd Touch A-P groups Shopsmith 520 + bits Flatulus Antiquitus - Original Message - From: Amrinder To: CSS Discuss Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 2:48 PM Subject: [css-d] :: CSS Code Readibility :: l in size Hi, I was reading this article on Smashing Magazine which shows how to increase code readability, http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2008/05/02/improving-code-readability-with-css-styleguides/ but I have listened to Andy Clarke over Lynda.com saying that one should save the white space as it increases the file size. Which approach is better? Should we go for code readability as described by Smashing Magazine or follow what Andy said. Thanks, Amrinder Freelance Web-Standard Designer www.awayback.com __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Implementing float: center;
On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 11:22 AM, Michael B Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 9:32 AM, Mark Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No. I want fixed center, liquid secondary. Three versions (Georg Sortun) depending on the source order you seek: http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/moa_27a.html http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/moa_27b.html http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/moa_27c.html Now this *is* what I want. When I saw this topic come up I was hoping to see a solution where the float:center item has text flowing around both sides of the item, such as this: Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit. Ut elit arcu, egestas et, bibendum fermentum, consequat a, sem. Curabitur felis diam, elementum eget, dictum ** quis, elementum quis, est. Sed porta vehicula ** lorem. Curabitur in dui vel eros fringilla *float:--* vulputate. Mauris mi lectus, mattis vitae, *-center-* tristique eget, laoreet ut, nunc. Pellentesque ** sodales, sapien sit amet malesuada congue, orci ** neque aliquam augue, quis tincidunt quam nisi nec turpis. Morbi non odio. Maecenas a nisi. Maecenas eget orci. Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit. Anyone know of a way to do this? Ah, true. I guess this isn't exactly what I wanted either. There is one thing that might get this closer. Georg's examples have an extra div inside the 50% width side1 / side2. See: div id=side2 div pa side column #8211; bthird/b in source./p /div /div I think if you remove that div so that it's like: div id=side2 a side column #8211; bthird/b in source. /div the text doesn't flow around, it goes *under*. Now however, because the width of the center div is fixed, you could float: left a div of half the size just to push the text out from under that area. Do the same on the left side with a float: right. That will give you two columns of text which still isn't exactly what we want but the text should flow around the center element. Here's the two column version: http://www.ioplex.com/~miallen/float-center-two-cols.html One limitation of this is that the the height of the center div must be known in advance. Mike -- Michael B Allen PHP Active Directory SPNEGO SSO http://www.ioplex.com/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] Vertical Align Bottom?
I wanted to thank everyone for their assistance with my most recent site check. I wanted to apologize about the HTML not validating, it was valid, then I made as few changes and forgot to re-validate it. I also took everyones' suggestions and change my font size to em from px. Now for my question. Is there a way to align the Test Image Box, on the linked page below, to the bottom of the div leftCol? Basically, is there any way to align elements to the bottom of a long column with is denoted by a div with a clear? One other question. Why will my HTML not validate when I have target=blank in HTML 1.0 Strict? (If this is too far off topic please ignore. I really want to know about the above question.) Here is the HTML: http://www.eddysound.com/msc/ Here is the CSS: http://www.eddysound.com/msc/main.css Thanks in advance, Matt __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Vertical Align Bottom?
Matthew Stoneback wrote: I also took everyones' suggestions and change my font size to em from px. Here is the HTML: http://www.eddysound.com/msc/ Here is the CSS: http://www.eddysound.com/msc/main.css Matt Add this to your style sheet to keep your em sized fonts from going totally nuts when scaled in IE: html {font-size: 100%;} -- http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Vertical Align Bottom?
One other question. Why will my HTML not validate when I have target=blank in HTML 1.0 Strict? (If this is too far off topic please ignore. I really want to know about the above question.) Assuming you mean XHTML 1.0 Strict, there is not target attribute to the A element in Strict XHTML. If you are in loose or transitional it is supported, by the value is _blank (with a leading underscore), not blank. __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Gif and PNG with IE6
David Hucklesby wrote: But if you use PNG-8 the transparency works fine. Semi-transparency displays as fully transparent in IE 5.x and 6 though. We can't solve your problem without seeing the page, though. But I'll remind you that the path to a background-image is the path from the style sheet, not from the HTML page. (Except in Netscape 4.) Cordially, David 20080506 1254 GMT-6 That answered some problems. I didnt create the graphics so I opened them in GIMP and changed them to gif interlaced. That solved the problem for a few of the graphics but it wont work on all of them - as some are transparent. But that is ok - since that is not a css question - I think that this answered my questions to my problems. Thanks Wade __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Scaling problem - and an IE6 problem
Peter Bradley wrote: http://www.peredur.uklinux.net/PlaceForWords/ When I try to scale up or down (Ctrl+ or Ctrl-), the header stays the same size. I've given it an explicit height of 16em and an implicit width of 100%, and I was expecting it to scale, ems being scalable and all that. Even with implicit width and height, it doesn't scale. It may be just as well that the header image does not scale (except in Opera) because it does not a pretty picture make when scaled-- personal opinion of course. Others on the list can provide the methods for it to scale images if you still want it to do so. Personally, I'd wait until the technology for making this happen less crudely than now is in place. Scaling up isn't too bad, but on scaling down, the menu and main text soon finds itself on top of the banner. It scales OK when the browser window is resized (althought that doesn't alter the font size, of course). I can live with this as I guess that the ability to scale up is more important than the ability to scale down, but if anyone knows of a better way to code it, I'd be very grateful. The page needs a little more structure to employ font-scaling up or down. The basic principle for doing so comes from print media layout shudder the thought. *Hold the horizontals * (on the Web it means set width in px, em, percent, min/max or some combination of them) and *hit the verticals* (by not restricting or impeding height). The example [1] employs px width and has been cursory checked in IE/6, IE/7, and compliant browsers. [1] http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/cssd/c.html -- http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Implementing float: center;
On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 12:09 PM, Someone wrote: Granted that you may have a client that insists (probably against your better judgement) that they want a pseudo 'float:center', but why do you want to do it? Look at any newspaper or magazine and the text is always one side of an image or the other, and top and bottom, but never both sides. It makes the text extremely difficult to follow, unless the reader has a ruler or the text is set on visible horizontal lines. IMO (Certainly in the Western World) text is read from top to bottom, left to right in a more or less continuous flow. Even with left or right 'chunks' occupied by images etc, the flow is maintained. As an exercise in formatting it could be fun I guess. :-) My 2c The problem is that I'm not doing documents, I'm doing applications and unfortunately it seems CSS' layout capability is tailored to creating documents with text elements that flow and float and so on. Web applications are commonly collections of UI elements organized into tables (e.g. forms). If it were up to me I would just use a tables (at least one maybe as a layout backbone). But unfortunately I can't because currently the community perception is that anyone using tables for layouts is ignorant and that could affect the marketability of a product that doesn't follow approved practices. This doesn't really apply to the float: center effort but I'm a little annoyed by the customary why do you want to do that? response. Not everyone is laying out blogs, wikis and home pages. Mike __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] : CSS Code Readibility ::
Does it really matter if your visitors have to wait for a page to load? It's getting off-topic but on a popular site reducing the size of any resources, including CSS files, can save money if you pay for bandwidth. Even if the user-experience isn't materially affected it may affect the site owner's bottom line. I'd consider keeping white-space in for the source CSS file but compressing the file before serving it to the users. You ARE keeping your source files separate from your production files, in a source-code control system, right? :) Mark __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] Overflow Hidden Headache
I can't for the life of me figure out how to do what I'd like. I've tried several 3-col layouts that get very close to what I'd like to do. But one issue I can't figure out is how to have my round image in the upper right of the page IN the right hand column, but also have the top edge of it hanging into the upper header. All of these layouts use overflow:hidden in their main body containers, so it cuts off that image. I've only tested any of this in Firefox so far. The closest I've come to the look I'm after is here: www.springfieldmo.gov/newSite/index7.html www.springfieldmo.gov/newSite/mainStyles_take7.css But the above has the round image in the header block - not really the best for keeping it with its related content. Keeping that image in the right hand column gives me this: www.springfieldmo.gov/newSite/index7b.html www.springfieldmo.gov/newSite/mainStyles_take7b.css As you can see, the image is cut off, and I can't figure out any way around it. If I take out the overflow:hidden from the #container rule, then the top looks fine, but the bottom of the page goes haywire. Can overflow be defined for just one side similar to border, margin, or padding? Any help is much appreciated. I'm beginning to wonder if I've designed something that's impossible to implement. Chris A. City of Springfield, MO Web Coordinator __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Overflow Hidden Headache
Chris Akins wrote: If I take out the overflow:hidden from the #container rule, then the top looks fine, but the bottom of the page goes haywire. Did not look into it, but if overflow:hidden is meant to contain floats in these layouts (instead of literally cutting what is overflowing), then overflow:hidden could (and probably should) be replaced by an easyclearing method. Ingo -- http://www.satzansatz.de/css.html http://www.dolphinsback.com __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Overflow Hidden Headache
From my not-so-advanced vantage point, it appears that the overflow:hidden is not being used so much to contain floats as there isn't but float in the #container div. On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 4:41 PM, Ingo Chao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris Akins wrote: If I take out the overflow:hidden from the #container rule, then the top looks fine, but the bottom of the page goes haywire. Did not look into it, but if overflow:hidden is meant to contain floats in these layouts (instead of literally cutting what is overflowing), then overflow:hidden could (and probably should) be replaced by an easyclearing method. Ingo -- http://www.satzansatz.de/css.html http://www.dolphinsback.com __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/