[css-d] Chrome and css

2008-12-20 Thread Luc
 Good afternoon list,  

 Now that Chrome left the beta stage
 (http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2008/12/google-chrome-beta.html)
 i guess we have 1 more beast to tame. At the moment i'm installing
 it but i was wondering if any one here is already using it and if
 so, what major css glitches does it have, i.o.w. does it have some
 IE6 like standard bugs and workarounds?

 If it's considered OT, replies can be sent off-list :-)
 
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Re: [css-d] Chrome and css

2008-12-20 Thread Barrett

On Dec 20, 2008, at 9:29 AM, Luc wrote:

  Good afternoon list,

  Now that Chrome left the beta stage
  (http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2008/12/google-chrome-beta.html)
  i guess we have 1 more beast to tame. At the moment i'm installing
  it but i was wondering if any one here is already using it and if
  so, what major css glitches does it have, i.o.w. does it have some
  IE6 like standard bugs and workarounds?

  If it's considered OT, replies can be sent off-list :-)

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Yes see my post
Subject = adjacent sibling issue with radio buttons

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Re: [css-d] Chrome and css

2008-12-20 Thread Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis
On 20/12/08 14:29, Luc wrote:
   Now that Chrome left the beta stage
   (http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2008/12/google-chrome-beta.html)
   i guess we have 1 more beast to tame. At the moment i'm installing
   it but i was wondering if any one here is already using it and if
   so, what major css glitches does it have, i.o.w. does it have some
   IE6 like standard bugs and workarounds?

Its CSS engine is WebKit like Safari, so if you've already tested in 
Safari (which has a significantly larger user base), things shouldn't be 
too bad. It's the JS engine and UI in Chrome which are novelties.

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Re: [css-d] Chrome and css

2008-12-20 Thread Luc
Good afternoon Barrett, 

It was foretold that on 20/12/2008 @ 09:33:49 GMT-0500 (which was
12:33:49 where I live) Barrett would write:

snipped a bit

 Subject = adjacent sibling issue with radio buttons  

Reading it now :-)
 
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Re: [css-d] Chrome and css

2008-12-20 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Luc wrote:

 Now that Chrome left the beta stage 
 (http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2008/12/google-chrome-beta.html) i
 guess we have 1 more beast to tame.

Chrome's CSS support is incomplete/buggy on a few points, but for the
most part it's just another WebKit.

Like for other browsers that run on common engines, it's the version-lag
we have to keep an eye on. For Chrome that's not too bad yet.

See the table over graphical browsers vs. rendering engines...
http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_additions_40.html
...and my comments around the issue.

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Re: [css-d] Chrome and css

2008-12-20 Thread Luc
Good afternoon Benjamin, 

It was foretold that on 20/12/2008 @ 14:34:58 GMT+ (which was
12:34:58 where I live) Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis would write:

 Its CSS engine is WebKit like Safari, so if you've already tested in 
 Safari (which has a significantly larger user base), things shouldn't be
 too bad. It's the JS engine and UI in Chrome which are novelties.

I  just had a play with it  and using it for a project, things are
looking  real  good.  The only glitch i've found so far is that Chrome
puts  a  small  triangular  shape that consists of tiny bullets in the
down right corner of the textarea tag on my form.

http://www.dzinelabs.com/sandbox/MP/Pages/contact.php

One might even think that it's a clever styling used on the form but
i assure you it's not ;-)

Maybe it renders the same as in Safari but i don't use and test for
Safari...

 
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Re: [css-d] Chrome and css

2008-12-20 Thread Luc
Good afternoon Gunlaug, 

It was foretold that on 20/12/2008 @ 16:13:45 GMT+0100 (which was
13:13:45 where I live) Gunlaug Sørtun would write:

snipped a bit

 See the table over graphical browsers vs. rendering engines...
 http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_additions_40.html
 ...and my comments around the issue.  

Pretty impressive table.

Don't think you're mad, but quite a high number of browser developers
and promoters do have lost their mind ;-)
 
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Re: [css-d] Chrome and css

2008-12-20 Thread J.C. Johnson
 
 I  just had a play with it  and using it for a project, things are
 looking  real  good.  The only glitch i've found so far is that Chrome
 puts  a  small  triangular  shape that consists of tiny bullets in the
 down right corner of the textarea tag on my form.
 
 http://www.dzinelabs.com/sandbox/MP/Pages/contact.php
 
 One might even think that it's a clever styling used on the form but
 i assure you it's not ;-)
 
 Maybe it renders the same as in Safari but i don't use and test for
 Safari...
 


Actually, that's the grab point for resizing the textarea. :-)



Jeniffer Johnson
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Re: [css-d] Chrome and css

2008-12-20 Thread Luc
Good afternoon J.C., 

It was foretold that on 20/12/2008 @ 09:44:58 GMT-0600 (which was
13:44:58 where I live) J.C. Johnson would write:

 Actually, that's the grab point for resizing the textarea. :-)

Jeez, so it is oh man, what do they invent next :-)

Right, back to the help file ;-)

 
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[css-d] Help with Drop Down Menu

2008-12-20 Thread taestrada
If you view my top navigation and drop down menu in IE 7, it looks almost
perfect. I just need help with centering the entire navigation bar.

 

If you view it in Firefox, the drop down menu is too low on the page. When I
adjust it, it throws off IE 7 and becomes too high on the page.

 

And if you view it in IE 6, it's a mess!

 

I would certainly appreciate any help with this.

 

http://www.drdarvish.com/dev/index.html

 

Thanks so much,

 

Alix Estrada
Web Studio 180
 http://www.webstudio180.com www.webstudio180.com
Web Design | Development | Usability 

 

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[css-d] easy clearing

2008-12-20 Thread David Laakso
Anyone found a less cumbersome or more efficient way of writing the 
rules for it?




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Re: [css-d] easy clearing

2008-12-20 Thread Luc
Good afternoon David, 

It was foretold that on 20/12/2008 @ 13:29:24 GMT-0500 (which was
16:29:24 where I live) David Laakso would write:

 Anyone found a less cumbersome or more efficient way of writing the 
 rules for it?

Don't know if that's what you're after but maybe this might be of
interest to you?

http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/02/26/simple-clearing-of-floats/

 
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Re: [css-d] easy clearing

2008-12-20 Thread David Laakso
Luc wrote:
 Good afternoon David, 


   
 Don't know if that's what you're after but maybe this might be of
 interest to you?

 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/02/26/simple-clearing-of-floats/

  
   


Thanks, but I am looking specifically at the method sometimes known as 
easy clearing as first described here [1], and latter here [2], and 
here [3], and elsewhere.
[1]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2002Aug/0134.html
[2]http://www.positioniseverything.net/easyclearing.html
[3]http://www.456bereastreet.com/archive/200603/new_clearing_method_needed_for_ie7/

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Re: [css-d] easy clearing

2008-12-20 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
David Laakso wrote:
 Anyone found a less cumbersome or more efficient way of writing the 
 rules for it?

What's so bad about your way?

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Re: [css-d] syntax highlight inside pre possible ?

2008-12-20 Thread David
Mikael Bystrom wrote:
 On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 10:49 PM, David ker...@abbottdavid.com wrote:
 Is there any way to get some basic syntax highlighting with css?
 example with current code;
 http://dwabbott.com/css_pre.html
 

 David, what do you mean with basic syntax highlighting? You mean
 color coding or just as the example you gave?

 I'd write this as

 pre{
 background-color: #DDD ;
 border: 1px dashed #D43D1A;
 padding:10px;
 }

 code {
   font-family: monospace;
 font-size: 1.1em;
 }

 as I'd like to distinguish the blocklevel pre element and the actual
 inline written code with the code element.


   
The current example has the  desired effects;
http://dwabbott.com/css_pre.html
thanks
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Re: [css-d] easy clearing

2008-12-20 Thread David Laakso
David Laakso wrote:
 Anyone found a less cumbersome or more efficient way of writing the 
 rules for it?




   


Georg Sortun was kind enough to provide what I was looking for (and had 
seen before but could not remember where).

Georg wrote (sent to me off-list):

:after {content: .; display: block; height: 0; clear: both; overflow:
hidden; visibility: hidden;}

...with the preferred selector in front. Mine is actually longer than
the original, to safeguard against a potential bug in IE8 - IE8b1 had it.

Old IE/win and IE/Mac get their own rules as part of the regular styling
or in separate stylesheets, so I usually don't care about them at this
point.






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Re: [css-d] easy clearing

2008-12-20 Thread Luc
Good evening David, 

It was foretold that on 20/12/2008 @ 14:31:44 GMT-0500 (which was
17:31:44 where I live) David Laakso would write:

 Thanks, but I am looking specifically at the method sometimes known as
 easy clearing as first described here [1], and latter here [2], and 
 here [3], and elsewhere.
 [1]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2002Aug/0134.html
 [2]http://www.positioniseverything.net/easyclearing.html
 [3]http://www.456bereastreet.com/archive/200603/new_clearing_method_needed_for_ie7/

No problem although i don't quite understand what you're after: the
sitepoints' article sums up the problem as in PIE and goes over the
several solutions (including the PIE one) to end with a 'simple'
solution... unless ofcourse we're talking about 2 different problems
:-)


 
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Re: [css-d] easy clearing

2008-12-20 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Luc wrote:

 ... the sitepoints' article sums up the problem as in PIE and goes 
 over the several solutions (including the PIE one) to end with a 
 'simple' solution...

Just to mention a potential problems with the overflow: auto/hidden
method: It ruins layouts where one deliberately places elements over the
edges of the container, as one either gets a scrollbar or the
overflowing elements get cut off.
That's why I don't use it much, as I quite often position elements over
or completely outside the container-edges. I'd hate not being able to do
that :-)

One needs the whole clear-and-contain tool-box to cover all
design-cases, as no single method covers them all. The easyclearing
method is an excellent addition to Block formatting...
http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/visuren.html#block-formatting
...hasLayout...
http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/onhavinglayout.html
...and solid clearers.

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[css-d] How not to display the a dark color frame around a pic?

2008-12-20 Thread Paul Jung
Dear All,

I have this strange problem, have no idea how to solve it. 
http://www.europeeurope.net/index.php

under the logo let's talk europe there is a green arrow, a .png file, since 
it is also a link, so it got the dark colored frame around it, and because of 
that the beautiful arrow lost its shape.

Who can give me a hand? Many thanks!

Paul from Slovakia
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Re: [css-d] How not to display the a dark color frame around a pic?

2008-12-20 Thread David Laakso
Paul Jung wrote:
 http://www.europeeurope.net/index.php

 under the logo let's talk europe there is a green arrow, a .png file, since 
 it is also a link, so it got the dark colored frame around it, and because of 
 that the beautiful arrow lost its shape.



 Paul from Slovakia
   


???

a img {border: none;}





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Re: [css-d] How not to display the a dark color frame around a pic?

2008-12-20 Thread Paul Jung
WOW! You are a magician! :)
THank you very much.
CSS is so powerful.

Paul 
  - Original Message - 
  From: JR Heard 
  To: Paul Jung 
  Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 11:28 PM
  Subject: Re: [css-d] How not to display the a dark color frame around a pic?


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  On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 4:22 PM, Paul Jung et...@hotmail.com wrote:

Dear All,

I have this strange problem, have no idea how to solve it.
http://www.europeeurope.net/index.php

under the logo let's talk europe there is a green arrow, a .png file, 
since it is also a link, so it got the dark colored frame around it, and 
because of that the beautiful arrow lost its shape.

Who can give me a hand? Many thanks!

Paul from Slovakia
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[css-d] center site horizontally and vertically

2008-12-20 Thread Thijs Hakkenberg
Dear list,

I've got a site which I centered horizontally with the margin-left:auto; 
and margin-right: auto; declarations, but this won't work for vertical 
centering. Which hack would you reccomend?

The template: http://passami-olio.nl/cms/fileadmin/template/template.html

TIA,

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Re: [css-d] Chrome and css

2008-12-20 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
Luc wrote:

 Now that Chrome left the beta stage
 (http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2008/12/google-chrome-beta.html)
 i guess we have 1 more beast to tame. At the moment i'm installing
 it but i was wondering if any one here is already using it and if
 so, what major css glitches does it have, i.o.w. does it have some
 IE6 like standard bugs and workarounds?

and

 Maybe it renders the same as in Safari but i don't use and test for
 Safari...


So you gonna worry about Chrome, a browser that is barely out of beta  
(if at all...) and is only used by a handful of geeks, but you don't  
test you work in Safari ? Interesting.

That said, as far as I've been able to see, Chrome's CSS support is  
the same as Safari 3.0. The have a few glitches, but not much. The  
main problem is the graphical rendering layer, which is different than  
Safari. But that has not much to do with CSS (it does affect things  
like border-radius and opacity, though, it leaves some not-so-pretty  
artifacts).

(oh, yes, it doesn't support the text-shadow property. Big deal.)


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Re: [css-d] center site horizontally and vertically

2008-12-20 Thread Barrett
Here you go.

body {
font-family: Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif;
text-align: center;
position: relative;
margin: 0;
padding: 0;
}


#outer{
width: 950px;
height: 600px;
margin-top: -300px;
margin-left: -475px;
left: 50%;
top: 50%;
position: absolute;
}


/*#middle{
display: table-cell;
vertical-align: middle;
}*/

Barrett


On Dec 20, 2008, at 6:12 PM, Thijs Hakkenberg wrote:

 Dear list,

 I've got a site which I centered horizontally with the margin- 
 left:auto;
 and margin-right: auto; declarations, but this won't work for vertical
 centering. Which hack would you reccomend?

 The template: http://passami-olio.nl/cms/fileadmin/template/ 
 template.html

 TIA,

 Thijs H
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Re: [css-d] center site horizontally and vertically

2008-12-20 Thread David Laakso
Thijs Hakkenberg wrote:
 I've got a site which I centered horizontally with the margin-left:auto; 
 and margin-right: auto; declarations, but this won't work for vertical 
 centering. Which hack would you reccomend?

 The template: http://passami-olio.nl/cms/fileadmin/template/template.html

 TIA,

 Thijs H
   


I would not recommend attempting vertical centering. For now, at least. 
Things will (may) change in the future. In the meantime, let go and 
enjoy what you got.

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