Re: [css-d] Changes how (some) browsers handle the a:visited pseudo-class

2010-04-12 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 05:13:44PM -0400, Bob Rosenberg wrote:
 Also IMO the feature should be OFF unless the user SPECIFICALLY 
 activates it (not set to ON requiring the user to turn it off to 
 cripple it).
 
 IOW: If you want to have the Browser play Net Nanny then require the 
 user to give permission not do it behind the user's back until the 
 browser is told to stop messing with the page/code and display it as 
 supplied.

And I disagree entirely.  Especially for something so minor as the
ability to make visited links look nothing at all like unvisited
links[1], software should be secure by default and require users to
deliberately choose to enable less secure modes of operation, not the
other way around.


[1] The changes described still allow you to visually distinguish
visited vs. unvisited links, provided that they still look basically the
same.  I don't see losing the ability to shrink visited links to a
microscopic font or replace their backgrounds with biohazard warnings to
be any big loss.  Certainly not a big enough loss to warrant knowingly
choosing a default behavior which is known to put users' privacy at
risk.

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Re: [css-d] CSS Object class not working on IE

2010-04-12 Thread Ed Goodson
Hi Thierry
I'm trying to move an swf to the center of the page:
www.watercolourcourses.com
Thanks

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To: 'Ed Goodson' e...@copywritecolombia.com; css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 10:15 PM
Subject: RE: [css-d] CSS Object class not working on IE


 This css code in my external .css works to put padding on a flash
 object tag
  in FF but nada in IE:

  object {
  padding-left:30px;
  }

  Normally I'd use another way around this but for various reasons this
 is my
  preferred solution

  Why is this not working in IE? Thanks

 I'm curious to know why you use padding on a object. What's the 
 expectation?

 Because I don't think padding should change the rendering of the element.
 And what is the other way around you mention?
 Do you have a URL we can check?


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Re: [css-d] IE6 float bug

2010-04-12 Thread Thierry Koblentz
 On 4/11/10 3:15 PM, Peter Bradley wrote:
  I have an example site that I've developed for a course I'm doing.
  There are no serious problems with it except in IE6; of which there
  is just one that I can't remember how to fix.  Here's one of the
  pages affected:
 
  http://www.peredur.net/tt280/pb88_ph.htm
 
  On opening the page, the right sidebar is mis-positioned; but it
  jumps back into the correct place if I hover over a link in the
  main-nav navigation bar.  I seem to remember that there is an easy
  fix for this in CSS, but I can't for the life of me find my notes.
  Can anyone, please, remind me as to what I have to do?

I believe your wrapper needs a layout, so David's suggestion should work as
it sets a width on #wrapper.
Did you try that fix?

Also, I'd wrap the main content in another DIV and style that one with
overflow:hidden and zoom:1 to create a new block formatting context to
escape the left float. 


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Re: [css-d] CSS Object class not working on IE

2010-04-12 Thread Thierry Koblentz
 I'm trying to move an swf to the center of the page:
 www.watercolourcourses.com

That object is in a paragraph, so style that P like this:

.someID {
  width: 425px;
  margin-left: auto;
  margin-right: auto;
}

That should do it


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[css-d] Re the non-secure login code...

2010-04-12 Thread Charles Miller
Three good people have now requested and received copies of the code we're 
using for a simple login page. I have no problem sharing it, but if, bottom 
line, I am being helpful or if I'm luring folks into flawed practice. 

If one of the sage veterans on this list would care to review what we're using, 
I'd be glad to send it to her/him. 

Chuck M


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[css-d] validation with no warnings

2010-04-12 Thread Chris Blake
Hi,

I am pleased that I managed to get this site done without asking the  
list for help! I did however post about doctype at the start and still  
didn't find the right answer.

http://wch.redrunner.co.uk/

The index page just has one warning, the others have 3. I don't really  
get HTML and CSS briefs anymore (Drupal, Joomla) but if I do this is  
how I code. I'd love it if someone could tell me what doctype and UTF  
setting suits my style so that I can just strike that from my list.  
Link to an example or cut and paste the code into here would be great.

Thanks, Chris
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Re: [css-d] validation with no warnings

2010-04-12 Thread Bobby Jack
--- On Mon, 4/12/10, Chris Blake ch...@3pointdesign.com wrote:

 http://wch.redrunner.co.uk/
 
 The index page just has one warning, the others have 3.
 I'd love it if someone could tell me what
 doctype and UTF  
 setting suits my style so that I can just strike that from
 my list.  

Hi Chris,

Your home page only has a single warning, which relates to the line-break in 
your doctype declaration. Instead of:

!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN http://www.w3.org/TR/
html4/strict.dtd

write:

!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN 
http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd;

or:

!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN
http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd;

Your other pages are simply missing a content-type declaration; why not use the 
same one as your home page:

meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=UTF-8

FWIW, I use HTML4/strict (because I see no point in using XHTML since it's not 
supported properly by IE, but I still want everything to be as strictly defined 
as possible) and UTF-8 (for non-ASCII support, although I normally use 
character entities anyway).

- Bobby
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Re: [css-d] validation with no warnings

2010-04-12 Thread Chris Blake

 http://wch.redrunner.co.uk/

 The index page just has one warning, the others have 3.
 I'd love it if someone could tell me what
 doctype and UTF
 setting suits my style so that I can just strike that from
 my list.

 Hi Chris,

 Your home page only has a single warning, which relates to the line- 
 break in your doctype declaration. Instead of:

 !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN http://www.w3.org/TR/
 html4/strict.dtd

 write:

 !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN 
 http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd 
 

 or:

 !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN
http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd;

 Your other pages are simply missing a content-type declaration; why  
 not use the same one as your home page:

 meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=UTF-8

 FWIW, I use HTML4/strict (because I see no point in using XHTML  
 since it's not supported properly by IE, but I still want everything  
 to be as strictly defined as possible) and UTF-8 (for non-ASCII  
 support, although I normally use character entities anyway).

 - Bobby


Hi,

OK thanks, I have changed all the pages now, but it seems as though I  
have to go through and change all the apostrophes, copyright symbols  
to HTML in order to pass. Home page has no warnings!! Excellent, thanks!

Cheers, CB
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Re: [css-d] validation with no warnings SOLVED

2010-04-12 Thread Chris Blake

Hi,

Thanks to everyone that replied. I have no figured out that HTML4/ 
Strict works for me and UTF8 is good too. I also learnt to change the  
preferences in my editor so that 'default file encodings' was 'Unicode  
UTF8' rather than automatic, which means that I do not need to use odd  
HTML characters for things like apostrophes (the keyboard one works  
just fine).

Excellent news, I am so happy and feel that I understand it a bit  
better now.

Cheers again, CB





On 12/04/2010, at 11:22 PM, Chris Blake wrote:


 http://wch.redrunner.co.uk/

 The index page just has one warning, the others have 3.
 I'd love it if someone could tell me what
 doctype and UTF
 setting suits my style so that I can just strike that from
 my list.

 Hi Chris,

 Your home page only has a single warning, which relates to the line-
 break in your doctype declaration. Instead of:

 !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN http://www.w3.org/TR/
 html4/strict.dtd

 write:

 !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN 
 http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd
 

 or:

 !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN
   http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd;

 Your other pages are simply missing a content-type declaration; why
 not use the same one as your home page:

 meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=UTF-8

 FWIW, I use HTML4/strict (because I see no point in using XHTML
 since it's not supported properly by IE, but I still want everything
 to be as strictly defined as possible) and UTF-8 (for non-ASCII
 support, although I normally use character entities anyway).

 - Bobby


 Hi,

 OK thanks, I have changed all the pages now, but it seems as though I
 have to go through and change all the apostrophes, copyright symbols
 to HTML in order to pass. Home page has no warnings!! Excellent,  
 thanks!

 Cheers, CB
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Re: [css-d] Re the non-secure login code...

2010-04-12 Thread Charles Miller

On Apr 12, 2010, at 11:08 AM, Reese wrote:

 I'd be happy to take a look, I'm always on the lookout for good
 login scripts and I'd be happy to provide any feedback I can.


Here's what I've been sending out. 


 After making the offer, it occurred that it's been so long since I started 
 using the code I wasn't sure I could accurately help anyone else start using 
 it. But it looks pretty basic. Do one thing, though. Make sure you try it on 
 duplicates or non-essential files. (Of course, you would have done that 
 anyway.)
 
 
 
 ONE***   This goes in the head section of the html page:
 
 
 script src=login.js type=text/javascript/script
 
 
 
 
 TWO***   Then this form goes in the body section. You decide the content to 
 include other than the form fields. 
 
 
 
 form name=login id=login
 center
   table width=760 border=0 cellspacing=25px cellpadding=5px
 
 trtd colspan=2a href=../index.htmlimg src=m.png alt=M 
 name amp; logo width=750 height=87 align=top title=Return to Home 
 //a
 /td
 /tr
   
 trtd colspan=2img src=o.png alt=Account Login at O 
 /nbsp;br /
 /td/tr
 
   tr bgcolor=#154212th colspan=2Enter Your  Private Websitebr /
 span class=style1Please type your Username and Password, then 
 click
 Login mdash; Not Return/span/th/tr
   
   trthspan class=style2nbsp; br /
   Username:/span/th
   thspan class=style2nbsp; br /
   Password:/span/th/tr
 
   trthdiv align=centerinput type=text name=username //div/th
   thdiv align=centerinput type=text name=password 
 //div/th/tr
 
 trth colspan=2
 input type=button value=Login! onClick=Login() /
 /th/tr
 
 /table
 /center 
 
 /form
 
 
 
 
 
 THREE***   The you create the login.js file from the following code. We 
 have 13 different logins leading to thirteen different pages. Each one needs 
 just 3 pieces of info: username, password and the page linked to. 
 
 Chuck M
 
 
  Begin
 function Login(){
 var done=0;
 var username=document.login.username.value;
 username=username.toLowerCase();
 var password=document.login.password.value;
 password=password.toLowerCase();
 
 
 if (username==  password==b) {
 window.location=pagename.html; done=1;
 }
 
 if (username==c  password==d) {
 window.location=pagename2.html; done=1;
 }
 
 
 
 
 if (done==0) { alert(Invalid login!); }
 }
 
 // End
 
 
 
 

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Re: [css-d] Re the non-secure login code...

2010-04-12 Thread Philip TAYLOR
Just one comment (for now !) --

Shouldn't input type=text be input type=password ?
Otherwise the user's password will remain visible on-screen.

Philip Taylor
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Re: [css-d] IE6 float bug

2010-04-12 Thread Peter Bradley
David Laakso wrote:
 IE/6.0 does not support min/max width or height and trips/bounces on the 
 percent margins on the wrapper.
 * html #wrapper { 
 width:975px;
 margin: 0 auto;
 }
 * html #left-nav {
height:85ex;
 }


 Best,
 ~d


   
Thanks, David.

It was the * html nonsense I'd forgotten.  All working now.

Cheers


Peter


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Re: [css-d] IE6 float bug

2010-04-12 Thread Peter Bradley
David Hucklesby wrote:
 Usually, adding an extra wrapper element inside your outer #wrapper with
 a 'width: 100%;' declaration on it helps IE compute the sidebar width
 correctly first time around. The jumping comes from a recalculation once
 IE has figured out 25% of the actual width of #wrapper.

 Not tested, but this usually works for me.

 Cordially,
 David
 --

   
Thanks, David.  Yes I can see how that would work.  I fixed it with 
David Laakso's suggestion, but I'll remember yours for next time.

Thanks

Cheers


Peter

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Re: [css-d] IE6 float bug

2010-04-12 Thread Peter Bradley
Thierry Koblentz wrote:
 I believe your wrapper needs a layout, so David's suggestion should work as
 it sets a width on #wrapper.
 Did you try that fix?
   

Depending on which David you mean...  I got it going with David Laakso's 
suggestion.

 Also, I'd wrap the main content in another DIV and style that one with
 overflow:hidden and zoom:1 to create a new block formatting context to
 escape the left float. 
   

That's very useful.  Thanks.  I can see where that could be needed.

Thanks for the suggestion.

Cheers


Peter

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Re: [css-d] Re the non-secure login code...

2010-04-12 Thread Paul Novitski

  I'd be happy to take a look, I'm always on the lookout for good
  login scripts and I'd be happy to provide any feedback I can.


  ONE***   This goes in the head section of the html page:
  script src=login.js type=text/javascript/script
 
  TWO***   Then this form goes in the body section. You decide the 
 content to include other than the form fields.
  form name=login id=login
...
  input type=button value=Login! onClick=Login() /


  THREE***   The you create the login.js file from the following 
 code. We have 13 different logins leading to thirteen different 
 pages. Each one needs just 3 pieces of info: username, password and 
 the page linked to.


This is not an appropriate topic for a CSS list.

This presentational markup desperately begs to be stripped bare and 
replaced with nice clean semantic markup and a stylesheet.

Any form functionality that depends on JavaScript cannot be secure. 
Write your security logic in a server-side script, then use 
JavaScript if you want to enhance the user experience, but asking 
JavaScript to be your gate-keeper is asking a narcoleptic to be your 
nightwatchman.

Including JavaScript calls in markup is so '90s old-school it's 
amazes me that people still code this way. Google separation of 
development layers and progressive enhancement, please.

Croggled,
Paul 

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Re: [css-d] Re the non-secure login code...

2010-04-12 Thread Paul Novitski
At 4/12/2010 09:56 AM, Philip TAYLOR wrote:
Shouldn't input type=text be input type=password ?
Otherwise the user's password will remain visible on-screen.


FYI I was interested recently to read some push-back against the 
age-old assumption that password input should be obfuscated:

Jakob Nielsen's Alertbox, June 23, 2009:
Stop Password Masking

Summary:
 Usability suffers when users type in passwords and the only 
feedback they get is a row of bullets. Typically, masking passwords 
doesn't even increase security, but it does cost you business due to 
login failures.
http://www.useit.com/alertbox/passwords.html

[I think this part of the discussion properly belongs over on WSG or 
Webdesign-L...]

Regards,

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[css-d] How to handle cached styles...

2010-04-12 Thread cFA
Hi all, I wanted to get some collective input on how you all handle updating
styles that are cached.

Many times on large projects I'm involved with we end up using query strings
?v=04-12-2010 to force new styles to show.  I'm not a big fan of it...

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Re: [css-d] How to handle cached styles...

2010-04-12 Thread Climis, Tim
 Hi all, I wanted to get some collective input on how you all handle updating
styles that are cached.

Double clicking the refresh button will usually do the trick.  There's also 
private browsing mode, which will keep things from caching.

---Tim

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Re: [css-d] How to handle cached styles...

2010-04-12 Thread Chris Blake
I use safari and it pretty much does a hard refresh every time.  
Sometimes with firefox i hold the shift key whilst refreshing.



On 13/04/2010, at 3:02 AM, Climis, Tim wrote:

 Hi all, I wanted to get some collective input on how you all handle  
 updating
 styles that are cached.

 Double clicking the refresh button will usually do the trick.   
 There's also private browsing mode, which will keep things from  
 caching.

 ---Tim

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Re: [css-d] How to handle cached styles...

2010-04-12 Thread cFA
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 12:11 PM, Chris Blake ch...@3pointdesign.comwrote:

 I use safari and it pretty much does a hard refresh every time. Sometimes
 with firefox i hold the shift key whilst refreshing.


 On 13/04/2010, at 3:02 AM, Climis, Tim wrote


 Double clicking the refresh button will usually do the trick.  There's
 also private browsing mode, which will keep things from caching.

 ---Tim



Right, I'm speaking more for the site users, how they can get updated styles
with as minimal disturbance as possible. Eg, a site visitor doesn't know
necessarily when you have pushed some css for design changes. It will look
broken for them.




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Re: [css-d] How to handle cached styles...

2010-04-12 Thread Climis, Tim
 Right, I'm speaking more for the site users, how they can get updated styles
 with as minimal disturbance as possible. Eg, a site visitor doesn't know
 necessarily when you have pushed some css for design changes. It will look
 broken for them.

Oh.  That's a far more interesting problem that I don't have a solution for, 
but I'd also be interested in learning one...

---Tim
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Re: [css-d] How to handle cached styles...

2010-04-12 Thread Tim Snadden

On 13/04/2010, at 7:11 AM, Chris Blake wrote:

 I use safari and it pretty much does a hard refresh every time.
 Sometimes with firefox i hold the shift key whilst refreshing.



 On 13/04/2010, at 3:02 AM, Climis, Tim wrote:

 Hi all, I wanted to get some collective input on how you all handle
 updating
 styles that are cached.

 Double clicking the refresh button will usually do the trick.
 There's also private browsing mode, which will keep things from
 caching.

I suspect Clint is referring to how to handle it from a developer  
point of view rather than a user. Most of us should know how to  
refresh our browsers. There are various options including query  
strings and symlinking the real directory or file to a directory or  
file that contains a version number. I use a tool called juicer that  
concatenates and minifies CSS and javascript for deployment. It has a  
couple of options for handling cache busting 
http://cjohansen.no/en/ruby/juicer_a_css_and_javascript_packaging_tool 
 . The author of this tool also describes the cache issue here 
 http://cjohansen.no/en/ruby/juicer_a_css_and_javascript_packaging_tool 
 

Cheers, Tim
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Re: [css-d] How to handle cached styles...

2010-04-12 Thread Tim Snadden

On 13/04/2010, at 7:26 AM, Tim Snadden wrote:


 I use a tool called juicer that
 concatenates and minifies CSS and javascript for deployment. It has a
 couple of options for handling cache busting 
 http://cjohansen.no/en/ruby/juicer_a_css_and_javascript_packaging_tool
 . The author of this tool also describes the cache issue here 
 http://cjohansen.no/en/ruby/juicer_a_css_and_javascript_packaging_tool


Sorry - second link should be 
http://cjohansen.no/en/apache/using_a_far_future_expires_header 
 
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[css-d] CSS Sprites, Image Replacement, or Just Images?

2010-04-12 Thread Chris Akins
Hello all -

Just looking for some expert advice for how to approach one part of a new
project.  The following jpg comp is all that exists yet, as I'm just now
building out the site and would like to know how to proceed on the 3 main
headings/choice options on the page.

http://www.springfieldmo.gov/strategicplan/images/concept.jpg

The 3 headings that are listen create and embark are image based.  I
had originally thought of using one image and a CSS sprite approach to show
the part for each heading that is needed. But then I got to thinking that
each of these really should be treated as an h2 header.  I've never done any
CSS image replacement, but wondered what the prevailing ideas on here would
be as to how to treat this issue?

- simple, stand alone images
- h2 tags with image replacement, and if so, what's considered the current,
best method
- CSS sprite
- h2 tags w/ images as backgrounds (this would negate the use of the font,
which I do like)
- something else I haven't thought of

Thanks for some advice in advance.

Christopher Akins
Web Coordinator
City of Springfield, MO
www.springfieldmo.gov
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Re: [css-d] Re the non-secure login code...

2010-04-12 Thread Boray ERIS
Javascript is not a proper way for a login system. Use a server side
language such as PHP, ASP, PERL, CGI, JSP.

On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 19:35, Charles Miller chuckmil...@new.rr.com wrote:

 On Apr 12, 2010, at 11:08 AM, Reese wrote:

 I'd be happy to take a look, I'm always on the lookout for good
 login scripts and I'd be happy to provide any feedback I can.


 Here's what I've been sending out.


 After making the offer, it occurred that it's been so long since I started 
 using the code I wasn't sure I could accurately help anyone else start using 
 it. But it looks pretty basic. Do one thing, though. Make sure you try it on 
 duplicates or non-essential files. (Of course, you would have done that 
 anyway.)



 ONE***   This goes in the head section of the html page:


 script src=login.js type=text/javascript/script




 TWO***   Then this form goes in the body section. You decide the content to 
 include other than the form fields.



     form name=login id=login
 center
       table width=760 border=0 cellspacing=25px cellpadding=5px

 trtd colspan=2a href=../index.htmlimg src=m.png alt=M 
 name amp; logo width=750 height=87 align=top title=Return to Home 
 //a
 /td
 /tr

 trtd colspan=2img src=o.png alt=Account Login at O 
 /nbsp;br /
 /td/tr

       tr bgcolor=#154212th colspan=2Enter Your  Private Websitebr /
         span class=style1Please type your Username and Password, then 
 click
         Login mdash; Not Return/span/th/tr

       trthspan class=style2nbsp; br /
       Username:/span/th
       thspan class=style2nbsp; br /
       Password:/span/th/tr

       trthdiv align=centerinput type=text name=username 
 //div/th
       thdiv align=centerinput type=text name=password 
 //div/th/tr

 trth colspan=2
 input type=button value=Login! onClick=Login() /
 /th/tr

 /table
 /center

 /form





 THREE***   The you create the login.js file from the following code. We 
 have 13 different logins leading to thirteen different pages. Each one needs 
 just 3 pieces of info: username, password and the page linked to.

 Chuck M


  Begin
 function Login(){
 var done=0;
 var username=document.login.username.value;
 username=username.toLowerCase();
 var password=document.login.password.value;
 password=password.toLowerCase();


 if (username==  password==b) {
 window.location=pagename.html; done=1;
 }

 if (username==c  password==d) {
 window.location=pagename2.html; done=1;
 }




 if (done==0) { alert(Invalid login!); }
 }

 // End





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Re: [css-d] How to handle cached styles...

2010-04-12 Thread David Laakso
cFA wrote:
 Hi all, I wanted to get some collective input on how you all handle updating
 styles that are cached.

 Many times on large projects I'm involved with we end up using query strings
 ?v=04-12-2010 to force new styles to show.  I'm not a big fan of it...

 _clint

   



Delete entire site (ball of confusion) from host/server. Upload new site 
(different ball of confusion) to host/server.

Best,
~d

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Re: [css-d] CSS Sprites, Image Replacement, or Just Images?

2010-04-12 Thread Thierry Koblentz
 Just looking for some expert advice for how to approach one part of a
 new
 project.  The following jpg comp is all that exists yet, as I'm just
 now
 building out the site and would like to know how to proceed on the 3
 main
 headings/choice options on the page.
 
 http://www.springfieldmo.gov/strategicplan/images/concept.jpg
 
 The 3 headings that are listen create and embark are image based.
 I
 had originally thought of using one image and a CSS sprite approach to
 show
 the part for each heading that is needed. But then I got to thinking
 that
 each of these really should be treated as an h2 header.  I've never
 done any
 CSS image replacement, but wondered what the prevailing ideas on here
 would
 be as to how to treat this issue?
 
 - simple, stand alone images
 - h2 tags with image replacement, and if so, what's considered the
 current,
 best method
 - CSS sprite
 - h2 tags w/ images as backgrounds (this would negate the use of the
 font,
 which I do like)
 - something else I haven't thought of


You could try this:

http://tjkdesign.com/articles/how-to_use_sprites_with_my_Image_Replacement_
technique.asp


--
Regards,
Thierry 
www.tjkdesign.com | articles and tutorials
www.ez-css.org | ultra light CSS framework






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