[css-d] CSS parser for Microsoft .NET

2010-08-12 Thread Christopher Wells
This is to tell you that I have written a CSS parser component (a
programming library) for Microsoft .NET.

It implements parsing of a stylesheet, and also implements the
specificity and inheritance calculations to determine what CSS rules
and property values are applicable to each element in a DOM.

For further details, see http://www.modeltext.com/css/

You'll find it useful if you develop .NET software and have an
application in which you want to parse CSS.

It's notable in being one of only two CSS parsers for .NET that I know
of, the other one being
http://www.codeproject.com/KB/recipes/CSSParser.aspx

Regards,
Christopher Wells
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Re: [css-d] footer not sticking to bottom of window, but footer contents are

2010-08-12 Thread Alan Gresley
Alex Mitchell wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Debbie Campbell 
 d...@redkitecreative.comwrote:
 
 Interesting - it kind of works but now it's up over the top of the content
 near the bottom of the page. I tried a clearing element, that didn't help.
 But it's better...

 --
 Debbie


 You're right, I didn't notice that. To fix this, add a margin-bottom:37px;
 to the div#center and it should fix all the problems.
 
 Hope this helps,
 Alex Mitchell
 http://gumware.com/

This is simply fixed by giving div#center a bigger padding-bottom. 
Currently there is this.

#center {
   float: left;
   width:667px;
   padding: 0 20px 10px 0;
}

Change it to this to account for the height of the footer which is 37px.

#center {
   float: left;
   width:667px;
   padding: 0 20px 37px 0;
}

You may wish to address what 'body.home #center' is selecting. And 
change the height of the padding-bottom. Better still just have this.

body.home #center {
   width:380px;
}



BTW Alex, adding float:right and margin-bottom: 37px is like throwing 
fairy floss at the problem and hoping that it sticks. Less is better.


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[css-d] Absolute Positioning for all page containers okay?

2010-08-12 Thread Anne McKinsey
Greetings,

I'm setting up numerous web pages with a jquery photo gallery that  
needs AP for its main images. Is it okay to set up every container on  
the page with AP or are there potential problems with doing so? The  
pages look okay on various browsers and no errors on W3C validator,  
but I can't help but think I'm doing something horribly wrong.

Here is a page:
http://www.amckwebandprint.com/macdonald/portfolio/portfolio-knit- 
process.html
http://www.amckwebandprint.com/macdonald/portfolio/portfolio.css

Your advice is much appreciated,

A. McKinsey





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Re: [css-d] Absolute Positioning for all page containers okay?

2010-08-12 Thread Bill Braun


Anne McKinsey wrote:
 Greetings,

 I'm setting up numerous web pages with a jquery photo gallery that  
 needs AP for its main images. Is it okay to set up every container on  
 the page with AP or are there potential problems with doing so? The  
 pages look okay on various browsers and no errors on W3C validator,  
 but I can't help but think I'm doing something horribly wrong.

 Here is a page:
 http://www.amckwebandprint.com/macdonald/portfolio/portfolio-knit- 
 process.html
 http://www.amckwebandprint.com/macdonald/portfolio/portfolio.css

 Your advice is much appreciated,

 A. McKinsey
   

The trade off is between precision design and the wide variety of 
preferences users have in how they configure their browsers. What looks 
great to you based on the screen size, screen resolution, and browser 
settings you used during design and coding may look unsightly to people 
who have different monitors and browser preferences.

I use absolute positioning myself. No one so far has complained, but I 
suspect that the easier response from people who find your site (or 
mine) unsightly is to simply leave. I am actively considering removing 
absolute positioning in the next site redesign.

Bill B
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Re: [css-d] Absolute Positioning for all page containers okay?

2010-08-12 Thread Tom Livingston
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 10:58 AM, Bill Braun bbr...@hlthsys.com wrote:


 Anne McKinsey wrote:
 Greetings,

 I'm setting up numerous web pages with a jquery photo gallery that
 needs AP for its main images. Is it okay to set up every container on
 the page with AP or are there potential problems with doing so? The
 pages look okay on various browsers and no errors on W3C validator,
 but I can't help but think I'm doing something horribly wrong.

 Here is a page:
 http://www.amckwebandprint.com/macdonald/portfolio/portfolio-knit-
 process.html
 http://www.amckwebandprint.com/macdonald/portfolio/portfolio.css

 Your advice is much appreciated,

 A. McKinsey


 The trade off is between precision design and the wide variety of
 preferences users have in how they configure their browsers. What looks
 great to you based on the screen size, screen resolution, and browser
 settings you used during design and coding may look unsightly to people
 who have different monitors and browser preferences.

 I use absolute positioning myself. No one so far has complained, but I
 suspect that the easier response from people who find your site (or
 mine) unsightly is to simply leave. I am actively considering removing
 absolute positioning in the next site redesign.

 Bill B


I'd have to say that I've never used AP for an entire site. I have
sprinkled AP within a non-AP site w/o ill effects. Such as AP-ing a
logo in a header. Obviously being aware of the fact it is removed from
the flow and making sure nothing would crash into it upon text
scaling, etc.

I can imagine an entire build using AP would have its share of tricky quirks...

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Re: [css-d] Absolute Positioning for all page containers okay?

2010-08-12 Thread Tom Livingston
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Tom Livingston tom...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 10:58 AM, Bill Braun bbr...@hlthsys.com wrote:


 Anne McKinsey wrote:
 Greetings,

 I'm setting up numerous web pages with a jquery photo gallery that
 needs AP for its main images. Is it okay to set up every container on
 the page with AP or are there potential problems with doing so? The
 pages look okay on various browsers and no errors on W3C validator,
 but I can't help but think I'm doing something horribly wrong.

 Here is a page:
 http://www.amckwebandprint.com/macdonald/portfolio/portfolio-knit-
 process.html
 http://www.amckwebandprint.com/macdonald/portfolio/portfolio.css

 Your advice is much appreciated,

 A. McKinsey


 The trade off is between precision design and the wide variety of
 preferences users have in how they configure their browsers. What looks
 great to you based on the screen size, screen resolution, and browser
 settings you used during design and coding may look unsightly to people
 who have different monitors and browser preferences.

 I use absolute positioning myself. No one so far has complained, but I
 suspect that the easier response from people who find your site (or
 mine) unsightly is to simply leave. I am actively considering removing
 absolute positioning in the next site redesign.

 Bill B


 I'd have to say that I've never used AP for an entire site. I have
 sprinkled AP within a non-AP site w/o ill effects. Such as AP-ing a
 logo in a header. Obviously being aware of the fact it is removed from
 the flow and making sure nothing would crash into it upon text
 scaling, etc.

 I can imagine an entire build using AP would have its share of tricky 
 quirks...


Quick look at the site in question resulted in a lot of things
crashing into each other upon 2 clicks up in text size. Mac Safari.


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[css-d] 3D Color prism - 216 colors (Windows safe colors)

2010-08-12 Thread Alan Gresley
Hello List,

Initially being an exploration into mathematics and sacred geometry, 
what I have discovered (like many others) is that hexadecimal colors 
can be represented as a 3D prism. I now present it to this list since 
it's also a very good color selector.

http://css-class.com/test/css/colors/3d-color-prism-216-colors.htm


It only uses #RGB since #RRGGBB would take to long to complete and is 
is in increments of 3 since a full 255 color channel step diagram 
would also take to long to complete.

With #RGB it's possible to have 16 color values with 15 steps. This 
can be reduced to 5 steps with increments of 3 or how this appears as 
5 steps with increments of 3. Below shows the 5 steps being 3, 6, 9, c 
and f.

/* (0) 1 2 (3) 4 5 (6) 7 8 (9) a b (c) d e (f) */


To understand why color is best illustrated as a 3D prism, please view 
this diagram.

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:RGB_color_solid_cube.png


Using a DOM inspector, one can easy attain the hexadecimal color value 
from the class names of each div and allows easy selection of a 
slightly different color. This is not as simple with a normal color 
diagram or chart.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_colours#Web-safe_colors


Example, hovering the 1st spot up from white / black, you will see 
these nesting of divs.

#300, #633, #966, #c99 and #fcc.


The 3D color prism shows the relationships between neighboring colors 
by a slight change to either the red, green or blue color channels. If 
one travel through the 3D prism (or if you prefer, a hexagram) you can 
travel the 15 steps from black to white.

Beginning at the Black, go north 5 steps to red (increase in the red 
channel), then travel 5 steps to the yellow (increase in the green 
channel), and 5 steps to the white (increase in the blue channel). You 
will notice that you are back at the same spot.

You will also notice that each spot has more than one color occupying 
it apart from the outer band. The outer band has 30 spots with 30 
colors, then 24 spots with 48 colors, then 18 spots with 54 colors, 
then 12 spots with 48 colors, then 6 spots with 30 colors and finally 
1 spot with 6 colors.


30 + 48 + 54 + 48 + 30 + 6 = 216.


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Re: [css-d] footer not sticking to bottom of window, but footer contents are

2010-08-12 Thread Debbie Campbell
Thanks! Worked perfectly.

'Fairy floss' - I like that.

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On 8/12/2010 5:36 AM, Alan Gresley wrote:
 Alex Mitchell wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Debbie Campbell
 d...@redkitecreative.comwrote:

 Interesting - it kind of works but now it's up over the top of the
 content
 near the bottom of the page. I tried a clearing element, that didn't
 help.
 But it's better...

 --
 Debbie


 You're right, I didn't notice that. To fix this, add a
 margin-bottom:37px;
 to the div#center and it should fix all the problems.

 Hope this helps,
 Alex Mitchell
 http://gumware.com/

 This is simply fixed by giving div#center a bigger padding-bottom.
 Currently there is this.

 #center {
 float: left;
 width:667px;
 padding: 0 20px 10px 0;
 }

 Change it to this to account for the height of the footer which is 37px.

 #center {
 float: left;
 width:667px;
 padding: 0 20px 37px 0;
 }

 You may wish to address what 'body.home #center' is selecting. And
 change the height of the padding-bottom. Better still just have this.

 body.home #center {
 width:380px;
 }



 BTW Alex, adding float:right and margin-bottom: 37px is like throwing
 fairy floss at the problem and hoping that it sticks. Less is better.


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Re: [css-d] 3D Color prism - 216 colors (Windows safe colors)

2010-08-12 Thread Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd)
Fascinated that there is Lime but not Green, Alan;
is this intentional ?

Philip Taylor

Alan Gresley wrote:
 Hello List,

 Initially being an exploration into mathematics and sacred geometry,
 what I have discovered (like many others) is that hexadecimal colors
 can be represented as a 3D prism. I now present it to this list since
 it's also a very good color selector.

 http://css-class.com/test/css/colors/3d-color-prism-216-colors.htm
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Re: [css-d] 3D Color prism - 216 colors (Windows safe colors)

2010-08-12 Thread David Laakso
Alan Gresley wrote:
 Initially being an exploration into mathematics and sacred geometry, 
 what I have discovered (like many others) is that hexadecimal colors 
 can be represented as a 3D prism. I now present it to this list since 
 it's also a very good color selector.

   




Dear Theo,

It boggles the mind.

Best,
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[css-d] Mobile Stylesheets vs. Mobile Optimized Sites

2010-08-12 Thread Chris Akins
Our organization is wanting to start down the road of making some of our
applications and content more mobile device friendly.  I've spent the
morning Googling the subject of mobile or handheld stylesheets and mobile
optimized content by serving up a separate site for handheld devices.  Most
of the articles I'm finding, though, are 2-3 years old.

My question is this: As of 2010, should I be more focused on serving up
handheld stylesheets or approaching the mobile devices in another manner?
Any current best practice articles regarding styling for mobile devices that
someone can point me to?

Thanks for any advice.

Chris Akins
Web Coordinator
City of Springfield, MO
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Re: [css-d] Mobile Stylesheets vs. Mobile Optimized Sites

2010-08-12 Thread David Laakso
Chris Akins wrote:
 Our organization is wanting to start down the road of making some of our
 applications and content more mobile device friendly.

 Chris Akins

   



Thi/m/k media queries.

http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-mediaqueries/
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/responsive-web-design/

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Re: [css-d] 3D Color prism - 216 colors (Windows safe colors)

2010-08-12 Thread Alan Gresley
Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:
 Fascinated that there is Lime but not Green, Alan;
 is this intentional ?
 
 Philip Taylor


Yes Philip,

Instead of using the hexadecimal value #0f0, one can also use the 
keyword lime (as in background: lime). Also green as a pigment and as 
a CSS keyword color would be closer the div.hex-090. The precise 
hexadecimal value is #080. The only colors that are the same as the 
pigment color is red, yellow, white and black. The pigment Orange is 
midway between yellow and red, the pigment violet is roughly midway 
between white / black, red and fuchsia and the pigment blue is midway 
between white / black and blue. The colors of the rainbow are in 
slightly different positions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Colorcircle.png


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Re: [css-d] Mobile Stylesheets vs. Mobile Optimized Sites

2010-08-12 Thread Tom Livingston
Just another thought:

www.cloudfour.com/css-media-query-for-mobile-is-fools-gold/


On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 1:21 PM, David Laakso
da...@chelseacreekstudio.com wrote:
 Chris Akins wrote:
 Our organization is wanting to start down the road of making some of our
 applications and content more mobile device friendly.

 Chris Akins





 Thi/m/k media queries.

 http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-mediaqueries/
 http://www.alistapart.com/articles/responsive-web-design/

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Re: [css-d] Mobile Stylesheets vs. Mobile Optimized Sites

2010-08-12 Thread David Laakso
Tom Livingston wrote:
 Just another thought:

 www.cloudfour.com/css-media-query-for-mobile-is-fools-gold/


   





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Re: [css-d] Mobile Stylesheets vs. Mobile Optimized Sites

2010-08-12 Thread Tom Livingston
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Mark Richards m...@date.net wrote:
 On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 14:41, Tom Livingston tom...@gmail.com wrote:

 Just another thought:

 www.cloudfour.com/css-media-query-for-mobile-is-fools-gold/


 My 2 cents on this topic: designing something specifically for one browser
 will give you the best results for that browser.  You can do all kinds of
 things once you go wild with all the proprietary or platform-specific
 features.  But when you want to re-use your results on a different browser
 or OS or screen-size or whatever some of your cool tricks won't work.  This
 is why we like standards-based CSS and HTML, because it can give great
 results on lots of browsers and platforms.  Sometimes, however, what you
 want needs a bit of extra proprietary oomph.

 For mobile, this means that a mobile-tailored site will give you the best
 results for a mobile user: you can use all the mobile features and you can
 optimize for mobile performance, such as reduced bandwidth and cpu usage.
 You don't need to send the whole animation javascript file or those large
 background-images because they won't be needed.

 However, it always comes down to cost.  It's too expensive to make a site
 for each browser so most of us make one that works well in standards mode.
 Can you afford to make a separate site for a mobile browser? If not, using
 CSS you can make a site that works better than a non-mobile site.  With some
 careful programming you can make a site that avoids wasting too much
 bandwidth.  But you are not optimizing for the mobile browser.  Is this good
 enough for your customers? Is this the best use of your development
 resources?  Only you can say.  I'd say a CSS-only approach is better than no
 approach, but nothing beats a site developed from the ground up with mobile
 in mind.

 Mark



I couldn't agree more. I sent this as information only. I'd use media
queries in a heartbeat for a mobile site...

How's that David?


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[css-d] Getting my feet wet in HTML5

2010-08-12 Thread Tom Livingston
List,

Here's a theory question ( i think) for ya. I'm working on a layout,
and am attempting to use section and aside. Properly, I believe.
But as I look at my layout, I'm thinking ok, i'll put an ID on this
section, and one on that section... and I stopped and thought Uh
oh... it's the same as i've always done with div id= etc. Am I
wrong? Is there still benefit to using section... I don't wanna just
substitute div for section... am I way off track already??

help...

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[css-d] Any progress on HR styling in IE?

2010-08-12 Thread Mary Ellen Curtin
I like to use an image for HR elements, especially on very 
graphic-intensive sites. The trouble is that pesky border IE keeps 
putting around them.

As of several years ago, hackery seemed to be the only way to make IE's 
hr images border-free:

1. Wrapping HR in a div: http://www.sovavsiti.cz/css/hr.html

2. or giving IE different code: http://saila.com/webdesign/tips/hr/

Has anyone come up with anything better in recent years?

Mary Ellen
Doctor Science, MA
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http://doctorscience.blogspot.com

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Re: [css-d] Getting my feet wet in HTML5

2010-08-12 Thread Tom Livingston
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 4:05 PM, Tom Livingston tom...@gmail.com wrote:
 List,

 Here's a theory question ( i think) for ya. I'm working on a layout,
 and am attempting to use section and aside. Properly, I believe.
 But as I look at my layout, I'm thinking ok, i'll put an ID on this
 section, and one on that section... and I stopped and thought Uh
 oh... it's the same as i've always done with div id= etc. Am I
 wrong? Is there still benefit to using section... I don't wanna just
 substitute div for section... am I way off track already??

 help...


Perhaps off-list responses would be best as I realize this really
isn't CSS related...

Thanks Steven...

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