Re: [css-d] why % not working for this?

2014-09-19 Thread John

On Sep 18, 2014, at 9:42 PM, Karl DeSaulniers k...@designdrumm.com wrote:

 Hi John,
 Took a look at your code an here are a few suggestions I think might help.
 This is how I understand how to use percentages for width, padding and margin.

( much arithmetic from Karl! )

Thank you, Karl..that was excellent and very instructive…I realized after 
reading your email that I’d spec’d 270px as a hard width, preventing those 
thumbs from scaling…I just fixed that and gave them a max-width of 30% of the 
“middle” width minus the 1.25em on either side and it works beautifully. 

John
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[css-d] iFrame Tag Error in Validation

2014-09-19 Thread Crest Christopher
I have an opening and closing iframe tag, but the validator is giving 
this error;
Saw  when expecting an attribute name. Probable cause: Missing  
immediately before.

My code:
iframe class= src=div/div/iframe
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Re: [css-d] iFrame Tag Error in Validation

2014-09-19 Thread Tom Livingston
Anything in the structure BEFORE the iframe amiss?

On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Crest Christopher
crestchristop...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have an opening and closing iframe tag, but the validator is giving this
 error;
 Saw  when expecting an attribute name. Probable cause: Missing 
 immediately before.
 My code:
 iframe class= src=div/div/iframe
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Re: [css-d] iFrame Tag Error in Validation

2014-09-19 Thread David Laakso
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Crest Christopher 
crestchristop...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have an opening and closing iframe tag, but the validator is giving this
 error;
 Saw  when expecting an attribute name. Probable cause: Missing 
 immediately before.
 My code:
 iframe class= src=div/div/iframe



Dunno. Need page markup. Try:

!doctype html
html lang=en-us
head
meta charset=utf-8
titlestuff/title
/head
body
iframe class=c1 src=c2.png
div/div
/iframe
/body
/html

Best,
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Re: [css-d] iFrame Tag Error in Validation

2014-09-19 Thread Crest Christopher

There is a .div class that contains the iframe !

Tom Livingston wrote:

Anything in the structure BEFORE the iframe amiss?

On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Crest Christopher
crestchristop...@gmail.com  wrote:

I have an opening and closing iframe tag, but the validator is giving this
error;
Saw  when expecting an attribute name. Probable cause: Missing
immediately before.
My code:
iframe class= src=div/div/iframe
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Re: [css-d] rem units and %

2014-09-19 Thread MiB

sep 18 2014 22:47 Felix Miata mrma...@earthlink.net:

 The natural talent of every modern web browser to adapt content to the user's
 environment is usurped by CSS attempting to make every page look like
 Photoshopped image, and at an arbitrary size bearing no predictable
 relationship to the physical characteristics of the environment opened
 within.


No! I won’t have that. It’s a certain breed of designers doing that, not CSS.

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Re: [css-d] rem units and %

2014-09-19 Thread Norman Fournier
On 2014-09-19, at 1:40 PM, MiB wrote:

 
 sep 18 2014 22:47 Felix Miata mrma...@earthlink.net:
 
 The natural talent of every modern web browser to adapt content to the user's
 environment is usurped by CSS attempting to make every page look like
 Photoshopped image, and at an arbitrary size bearing no predictable
 relationship to the physical characteristics of the environment opened
 within.
 
 
 No! I won’t have that. It’s a certain breed of designers doing that, not 
 CSS.

CSS is a tool that can be misused and not at fault for it's misuse. I don't 
understand the point of trying to demonize CSS as responsible for poor web 
design. The www would be a disaster without CSS and the problem stated in the 
post is solved by CSS and media queries, not created by it.

Norman
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Re: [css-d] rem units and %

2014-09-19 Thread Felix Miata
MiB wrote on 2014-09-19 21:40 (GMT+0200):

 Felix Miata composed:

 The natural talent of every modern web browser to adapt content to the user's
 environment is usurped by CSS attempting to make every page look like
 Photoshopped image, and at an arbitrary size bearing no predictable
 relationship to the physical characteristics of the environment opened
 within.

 No! I won’t have that. It’s a certain breed of designers doing that, not 
 CSS.

The behavior too pervades the web to be any one breed. Moreover, there's
pervasive instruction in use of CSS, and some of the power that CSS includes,
that leads the breed to believe CSS is intended to be determinative rather
than suggestive. Practitioners routinely use CSS power to such extent that
user power to override what is supposed to be suggestion as a practical
matter is little short of lip service.
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Re: [css-d] rem units and %

2014-09-19 Thread Felix Miata
Norman Fournier wrote on 2014-09-19 13:46 (GMT-0600):

 the problem stated in the post is solved by CSS and media queries, not 
 created by it.

Actually, media queries have compounded the problems of CSS overuse. I doubt
many practitioners using them have tested against user CSS to see how a UA
deals with the multiplied conflicts. Gecko (at least; on Linux there is
neither Safari nor IE, and Chrom* UI is useless in high DPI DEs, leaving it
up to Konq, SeaMonkey and Firefox to hold down the fort) has the ability to
remember zoom level on a per domain basis. Yet, multiple large domains I
frequent have font sizes jumping all over the place, both literally and
figuratively, only since queries were implemented on those domains. Despite
the UA memory, or maybe because of it, I'm forced to change zoom levels both
up and down when switching among multiple simultaneously open tabs on domains
employing queries. e.g. newegg.com.
-- 
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words are persuasive. Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)

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Re: [css-d] why % not working for this?

2014-09-19 Thread Karl DeSaulniers
Glad I could help. 

Best,
Karl

Sent from losPhone

 On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:41 AM, John j...@coffeeonmars.com wrote:
 
 
 On Sep 18, 2014, at 9:42 PM, Karl DeSaulniers k...@designdrumm.com wrote:
 
 Hi John,
 Took a look at your code an here are a few suggestions I think might help.
 This is how I understand how to use percentages for width, padding and 
 margin.
 
 ( much arithmetic from Karl! )
 
 Thank you, Karl..that was excellent and very instructive…I realized after 
 reading your email that I’d spec’d 270px as a hard width, preventing those 
 thumbs from scaling…I just fixed that and gave them a max-width of 30% of the 
 “middle” width minus the 1.25em on either side and it works beautifully. 
 
 John
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Re: [css-d] rem units and %

2014-09-19 Thread Tom Livingston
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Felix Miata mrma...@earthlink.net wrote:
 Norman Fournier wrote on 2014-09-19 13:46 (GMT-0600):

 the problem stated in the post is solved by CSS and media queries, not 
 created by it.

 Actually, media queries have compounded the problems of CSS overuse. I doubt
 many practitioners using them have tested against user CSS to see how a UA
 deals with the multiplied conflicts. Gecko (at least; on Linux there is
 neither Safari nor IE, and Chrom* UI is useless in high DPI DEs, leaving it
 up to Konq, SeaMonkey and Firefox to hold down the fort) has the ability to
 remember zoom level on a per domain basis. Yet, multiple large domains I
 frequent have font sizes jumping all over the place, both literally and
 figuratively, only since queries were implemented on those domains. Despite
 the UA memory, or maybe because of it, I'm forced to change zoom levels both
 up and down when switching among multiple simultaneously open tabs on domains
 employing queries. e.g. newegg.com.
 --
 The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
 words are persuasive. Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)

  Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

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Quickly resizing my browser width, I don't notice any MQs on the
newegg site as far as I can tell. What I do see is failure to
accommodate larger font sizes in the layout and therefore things over
flow their containers or get cropped. That's poor planning. This is
failure on the designers/devs part. Not CSS's. Is CSS responsible for
the containers not flexing? Technically, yes. Did it get into the site
by itself and mess things up? No. It was used incorrectly.



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