Re: [css-d] Cross-browser Display Issue / Problem With NOSCRIPT Validation

2007-09-27 Thread David Laakso
J Hodge wrote:
 Thank you, David.  I am aware that scaling is
 problematic, and was thinking the best approach would
 be to write the CSS so that the content areas become
 scrollable once the text size is increased.
   

RE: http://www.lostinxlation.net/sandbox3/portfolio/cybernomics1.html

We are into areas of personal opinion. My opinion is the content area 
height should not be constrained, and that on scaling it should drive what is 
beneatn it from here to Havana.


 However, upon further consideration, it occurs to me
 that that it might also be beneficial to scale up the
 dimensions of the overall layout as well... 


That is one way of going about it. My /opinion/ is you may want the site 
to work in any screen window. One way to accomplish this is to set 
min/max width and provide your favorite workaround for IE6.




  the
 particular layout I'm using was one I picked for some
 practice in source ordering and the use of relative
 positioning, and it has certainly posed its own little
 challenges.  =0)
   


Nevertheless it is a valid concept. One can, and should (yet another 
opinion), set to maintain the css disabled/text browser source order: 
doing so can sometimes pose tricky and difficult css manipulation. And 
this is where others on the list are better qualified than I am to help 
bring this particular valid concept to a successful conclusion.




 (treswife at gmail dot com)
   

Best,


~dL



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[css-d] Cross-browser Display Issue / Problem With NOSCRIPT Validation

2007-09-26 Thread J Hodge
Good evening to everyone.

Testbed:
http://www.lostinxlation.net/sandbox3/portfolio/cybernomics1.html

Testbed CSS:
http://www.lostinxlation.net/sandbox3/css/primary.css


I'm trying to get this site ready for the final
cosmetic touches, and so far it is displaying
correctly in the majority of modern browsers WITH
JavaScript enabled.  Unfortunately, when JavaScript is
disabled, almost all browsers render ul#portNav
incorrectly.  I've had varied results from toggling
the positioning between relative and absolute (with
the necessary changes to top, left, etc), but nothing
that has yielded cross-browser consistency.  The goal
is to have the ul#portNav display as it does in
browsers using JavaScript, even when JavaScript is
disabled.

Any ideas?

Secondly, Opera 9.x has some funky issues in rendering
the ul#portNav as well, beyond the above issue.  I
found that out of FF/NN/IE/Saf/Op, it was the only one
that used the primary.css (prior to adding hacks)
and rendered that ul as being positioned at the *top*
of the container.  After adding an Opera hack to the
primary stylesheet, I found that it rendered even more
oddly once the scripts were turned off, so I added a
noscript filter to correct the issue for Opera in the
head of the affected pages.  Unfortunately, a noscript
in the head does not validate for either strict or
transitional.  

Does anybody have any idea how to approach this in a
way that will validate?

Lastly, before I go in and start adjusting all the
fonts to relative sizing, I'd love input from anybody
with an eye for typesetting on how to make the right
sidebar and the left sidebar look more harmonious. 
I've been looking at this for so long trying to get
everything else sorted out that my eyes already feel
like they are about to bleed

Thank you in advance for your time and attention.  I
hope everyone is having a lovely evening.  Time for me
to go wrangle sick lilliputians...

~~J.
(treswife at gmail dot com)
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Re: [css-d] Cross-browser Display Issue / Problem With NOSCRIPT Validation

2007-09-26 Thread David Laakso
J Hodge wrote:
 Good evening to everyone.

 Testbed:
 http://www.lostinxlation.net/sandbox3/portfolio/cybernomics1.html

 Testbed CSS:
 http://www.lostinxlation.net/sandbox3/css/primary.css


 I'm trying to get this site ready for the final
 cosmetic touches

I regret that any font-scaling whatsoever breaks your site with or 
without javascript enabled in any browser on any operating system. It 
may be best to tackle that before moving on to other issues.

Regards,

~dL

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Re: [css-d] Cross-browser Display Issue / Problem With NOSCRIPT Validation

2007-09-26 Thread J Hodge
Thank you, David.  I am aware that scaling is
problematic, and was thinking the best approach would
be to write the CSS so that the content areas become
scrollable once the text size is increased.

However, upon further consideration, it occurs to me
that that it might also be beneficial to scale up the
dimensions of the overall layout as well...  the
particular layout I'm using was one I picked for some
practice in source ordering and the use of relative
positioning, and it has certainly posed its own little
challenges.  =0)

Thoughts on the relative merits of scrollable divs and
larger dimensions, in this particular context?

~~J.
(treswife at gmail dot com)
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