Re: [css-d] Div jumps in IE (two examples) SOLVED

2006-05-10 Thread Glenn E. Lanier, II
 From: Glenn E. Lanier, II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 4:49 PM

 HTML in question:
 http://www.CarpentersForChrist.com/LayerTest/reg1.html

Problem solved -- not really CSS related. A /TD was missing the closing
greater-than sign. Oddly, before I added my code (the hidden DIV) it didn't
cause IE any grief. Thanks to all who looked at this.

--G

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Re: [css-d] Div jumps in IE (two examples)

2006-05-09 Thread francky
francky wrote:

[...]
Anyway, thanks for helping me how to help.

francky

For completeness: Glenn send me an off list mail he did mean it in a 
sarcastic way, and offered a sorry. - Accepted, end of story! :-)

Still I think the crux is in the IE-only styles in the first file, which 
aren't in the second. Seems like there is not enough space for IE to 
show two div's on the right way (could be the particular % computing of 
IE, or box model thingy or so). Maybe a temp. { border: 1 px solid red; 
} on both div's will show what solution for IE is appropriate.

Cheers,
francky
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Re: [css-d] Div jumps in IE (two examples)

2006-05-08 Thread Glenn E. Lanier, II
 From: francky
 Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 5:07 PM

 Glenn E. Lanier, II wrote:
 
 [...]
 If you're still reading and not confused, let me try to sum it up:
 http://www.CarpentersForChrist.com/LayerTest/reg.html 
 contains valid HTML
   
 
 ... Oho! I was still reading but also confused, while I did check the 
 html-validator in the meantime.

Proper link to behaving page. Improper wording. Reg1.html, the misbehaving
page, is validated. No errors -- CSS errors are all leading underscore
related, and shouldn't cause the problem, since reg.html displays properly
in IE using the same CSS.

HTML in question:
http://www.CarpentersForChrist.com/LayerTest/reg1.html

Validation of HTML in question:
http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.carpentersforch
rist.com%2FLayerTest%2Freg1.html

 To get the difference, I should advise to isolate the problem by 
 commenting out parts of the (overwhelming table-) code you got, see 
 where the css is going wrong, and correct IE in that place(s).

You're not doing this the right way. You should point out the problem
(concisely, hopefully) and let me be on my way! I don't mind hacking that
beast down to size, but was hoping a quick glance with fresh eyes would shed
some light on where to hack first. 

 ps-1: the css-validator can be made happy by replacing the 3 
 IE_underscore hacks by a conditional comment.
I'll look at that.

 ps-2: beautyful css-hovers instead of the html-absorbing js-hovers 
 should be some good work too. :-)

I agree, but not my call. They'd also benefit from being added using SSI,
not hard coded into every single page, but that is a story for a different
day.

--G

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Re: [css-d] Div jumps in IE (two examples)

2006-05-08 Thread francky
Glenn E. Lanier, II wrote:

From: francky
Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 5:07 PM
[...]
[...]
[...]
To get the difference, I should advise to isolate the problem by 
commenting out parts of the (overwhelming table-) code you got, see 
where the css is going wrong, and correct IE in that place(s).


You're not doing this the right way.
  

:-)

You should point out the problem
  

:-)

[...]

I think this is a bit off topic, so I'll go on off list. The problem is 
here:
http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/helping-glenn.e.lanier-II.txt

Anyway, thanks for helping me how to help.

francky
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Re: [css-d] Div jumps in IE (two examples)

2006-05-05 Thread francky
Glenn E. Lanier, II wrote:

[...]
If you're still reading and not confused, let me try to sum it up:
http://www.CarpentersForChrist.com/LayerTest/reg.html 
contains valid HTML
  

... Oho! I was still reading but also confused, while I did check the 
html-validator in the meantime.
If this is the proper link, which validator u are using? ;-)
http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.carpentersforchrist.com%2FLayerTest%2Freg.html
 
http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.carpentersforchrist.com%2FLayerTest%2Freg.html
Result: Failed validation, 107 errors  and some IE-only inline style 
properties ...

and the proper layout (submit button above instructions, above processing
message). 
http://www.CarpentersForChrist.com/LayerTest/reg1.html 
contains essentially the same code, 
  

 but no IE-only style codes (for this one is valid html)  so maybe 
IE is interpreting essentially the same code on it's own IE-way.

but doesn't display correctly (submit button is
to the left of instructions and processing message).
  

To get the difference, I should advise to isolate the problem by 
commenting out parts of the (overwhelming table-) code you got, see 
where the css is going wrong, and correct IE in that place(s).

Greetings,
francky

ps-1: the css-validator can be made happy by replacing the 3 
IE_underscore hacks by a conditional comment.
ps-2: beautyful css-hovers instead of the html-absorbing js-hovers 
should be some good work too. :-)

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