Re: [css-d] Droid RAZR problem

2012-08-31 Thread BHomis
Hey, thanks.  Now that's something I haven't seen before.  Which  
platform/device are you using?  Is it my CSS?
Thanks,
Bruce
 
 
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Re: [css-d] Droid RAZR problem

2012-08-31 Thread patrick



On 8/31/2012 10:20 am, bho...@aol.com wrote:

Hey, thanks.  Now that's something I haven't seen before.  Which
platform/device are you using?  Is it my CSS?
Thanks,
Bruce


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  _http://www.sportsmansresource.com/flocalxnewyork_1a.htm_


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I see this on Firefox 15 on Win7.


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Re: [css-d] Droid RAZR problem

2012-08-31 Thread BHomis
Hey thanks.  I'm using Firefox 15 on Windows 7 too, and yet I'm not  seeing 
the trouble on my PC.  I tried it on my wife's laptop (Firefox 15   
Windows 7), and fine there too.
Bruce
 
 
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On 8/31/2012 10:20 am, bho...@aol.com wrote:
 Hey,  thanks.  Now that's something I haven't seen before.  Which
  platform/device are you using?  Is it my CSS?
 Thanks,
  Bruce


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_http://www.sportsmansresource.com/flocalxnewyork_1a.htm_

  http://b.cfaj.ca/sportsmansresource.jpg

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I see this on  Firefox 15 on Win7.


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Re: [css-d] Droid RAZR problem

2012-08-31 Thread Chris F.A. Johnson

On Fri, 31 Aug 2012, bho...@aol.com wrote:


Hey, thanks.  Now that's something I haven't seen before.  Which
platform/device are you using?  Is it my CSS?


  I'm using Firefox 15 on Mandriva 10.2

  I haven't looked at the CSS.


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Re: [css-d] Droid RAZR problem

2012-08-31 Thread David Laakso
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 11:04 PM, bho...@aol.com wrote:

 **
 It's not geared toward any specific browser or mobile device, and it seems
 fine in every browser and mobile device, except that one phone - the Droid
 RAZR.  If having a device-width meta tag or a 480 media query is something
 that will help, then I'll admit it's new to me and something I should learn
 about.  But I don't get how it seems fine in Android phones, except the
 RAZR.
 Thanks,
 Bruce

  In a message dated 8/30/2012 10:48:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
 laakso.davi...@gmail.com writes:

 On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 2:22 PM, bho...@aol.com wrote:

  Hi.  I'm rebuilding a very old website, and I've got a page designed
 that
  seems to work properly on all platforms, except on the Droid RAZR.
  Contents within a p tag don't fill their entire containing div.  It only
   seems to
  fill the left half of a div.  I'm not an expert, but I'm  scratching my
  head.  Any help is appreciated.  The page is:
  _http://www.sportsmansresource.com/flocalxnewyork_1a.htm_
  (http://www.sportsmansresource.com/flocalxnewyork_1a.htm)
  Thanks.
  Bruce
 




There are three basic methods for hitting mobile:

1/ Do nothing special for mobile.
2/ Make a desktop site and a separate version for mobile-- two different
addresses
3/ Create a desktop responsive site that will work in desktop, tablets, and
mobile handsets from one address.

You are using method 1. This method puts you and your client at the whim
and mercy of any particular device. In your case, high-end Android is not
cooperating with the way the page is coded. And I'd venture to guess that
those mobile devices that are cooperating  are probably doing so in an
unreadable and unusable manner.

You may find this article helpful...
http://dev.opera.com/articles/view/the-mobile-web-optimization-guide/

Best,
David Laakso
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[css-d] Droid RAZR problem

2012-08-30 Thread BHomis
Hi.  I'm rebuilding a very old website, and I've got a page designed  that 
seems to work properly on all platforms, except on the Droid RAZR.   
Contents within a p tag don't fill their entire containing div.  It only  seems 
to 
fill the left half of a div.  I'm not an expert, but I'm  scratching my 
head.  Any help is appreciated.  The page is:
_http://www.sportsmansresource.com/flocalxnewyork_1a.htm_ 
(http://www.sportsmansresource.com/flocalxnewyork_1a.htm) 
Thanks.
Bruce
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Re: [css-d] Droid RAZR problem

2012-08-30 Thread Philip TAYLOR

32 HTML errors and 68 warnings; once these are corrected,
there is a far greater chance that the site will behave
correctly and consistently across all platforms.


http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.sportsmansresource.com/flocalxnewyork_1a.htm

Philip Taylor

bho...@aol.com wrote:


Hi.  I'm rebuilding a very old website, and I've got a page designed  that
seems to work properly on all platforms, except on the Droid RAZR.
Contents within a p tag don't fill their entire containing div.  It only  seems 
to
fill the left half of a div.  I'm not an expert, but I'm  scratching my
head.  Any help is appreciated.  The page is:
_http://www.sportsmansresource.com/flocalxnewyork_1a.htm_
(http://www.sportsmansresource.com/flocalxnewyork_1a.htm)

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Re: [css-d] Droid RAZR problem

2012-08-30 Thread BHomis
Thanks for the tip.  I cleared most of the errors, other than the  alt 
attributes (which I will get to later), and still the same problem on the  
RAZR. 
 I can't imagine that missing alt attributes would cause this.
Any other suggestions?
_http://www.sportsmansresource.com/flocalxnewyork_1a.htm_ 
(http://www.sportsmansresource.com/flocalxnewyork_1a.htm) 
Thanks in advance.
Bruce
 
 
 
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p.tay...@rhul.ac.uk writes:

32 HTML  errors and 68 warnings; once these are corrected,
there is a far greater  chance that the site will behave
correctly and consistently across all  platforms.

http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.sportsmansresource.com/flocalxn
ewyork_1a.htm

Philip  Taylor

bho...@aol.com wrote:

 Hi.  I'm  rebuilding a very old website, and I've got a page designed  
that
  seems to work properly on all platforms, except on the Droid RAZR.
  Contents within a p tag don't fill their entire containing div.  It  
only  seems to
 fill the left half of a div.  I'm not an  expert, but I'm  scratching my
 head.  Any help is  appreciated.  The page is:
  _http://www.sportsmansresource.com/flocalxnewyork_1a.htm_
  (http://www.sportsmansresource.com/flocalxnewyork_1a.htm)
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Re: [css-d] Droid RAZR problem

2012-08-30 Thread Philip TAYLOR

Well, I still see 29 errors, Bruce, of which approximately 50%
are the use of unescaped  where amp; is required.

I doubt whether fixing these will improve the RAZR problem,
but as I have no idea what a Droid RAZR is, I am not
going to be able to be of much further help.

Philip Taylor

bho...@aol.com wrote:

Thanks for the tip.  I cleared most of the errors, other than the  alt
attributes (which I will get to later), and still the same problem on the  RAZR.
  I can't imagine that missing alt attributes would cause this.
Any other suggestions?
_http://www.sportsmansresource.com/flocalxnewyork_1a.htm_
(http://www.sportsmansresource.com/flocalxnewyork_1a.htm)
Thanks in advance.
Bruce

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Re: [css-d] Droid RAZR problem

2012-08-30 Thread David Laakso
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 2:22 PM, bho...@aol.com wrote:

 Hi.  I'm rebuilding a very old website, and I've got a page designed  that
 seems to work properly on all platforms, except on the Droid RAZR.
 Contents within a p tag don't fill their entire containing div.  It only
  seems to
 fill the left half of a div.  I'm not an expert, but I'm  scratching my
 head.  Any help is appreciated.  The page is:
 _http://www.sportsmansresource.com/flocalxnewyork_1a.htm_
 (http://www.sportsmansresource.com/flocalxnewyork_1a.htm)
 Thanks.
 Bruce




Umm. Are you trying to hit a mobile device? The above url is to a fixed
width 980px layout. I see no device-width meta tag in the head of the
document; nor, any 480 media query in the style sheet. If you are using a
different url for  mobile, I am unable to find it on the provided page.

Best,
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Re: [css-d] Droid RAZR problem

2012-08-30 Thread BHomis
It's not geared toward any specific browser or mobile device, and it seems  
fine in every browser and mobile device, except that one phone - the Droid  
RAZR.  If having a device-width meta tag or a 480 media query is something  
that will help, then I'll admit it's new to me and something I should learn 
 about.  But I don't get how it seems fine in Android phones, except the  
RAZR.
Thanks,
Bruce
 
 
In a message dated 8/30/2012 10:48:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
laakso.davi...@gmail.com writes:

On Thu,  Aug 30, 2012 at 2:22 PM, bho...@aol.com wrote:

 Hi.   I'm rebuilding a very old website, and I've got a page designed   
that
 seems to work properly on all platforms, except on the Droid  RAZR.
 Contents within a p tag don't fill their entire containing  div.  It only
  seems to
 fill the left half of a  div.  I'm not an expert, but I'm  scratching my
 head.   Any help is appreciated.  The page is:
  _http://www.sportsmansresource.com/flocalxnewyork_1a.htm_
  (http://www.sportsmansresource.com/flocalxnewyork_1a.htm)
  Thanks.
 Bruce




Umm. Are you trying to hit a  mobile device? The above url is to a fixed
width 980px layout. I see no  device-width meta tag in the head of the
document; nor, any 480 media query  in the style sheet. If you are using a
different url for  mobile, I am  unable to find it on the provided page.

Best,
David Laakso

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Re: [css-d] Droid RAZR problem

2012-08-30 Thread Chris F.A. Johnson

On Thu, 30 Aug 2012, bho...@aol.com wrote:


_http://www.sportsmansresource.com/flocalxnewyork_1a.htm_


http://b.cfaj.ca/sportsmansresource.jpg

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