Re: [css-d] Drop Cap missing in FF4
On 12/05/11 00:59, David Laakso wrote: Dunno. Is this a blessing or a bug. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=458169 Thanks for the link, but that's an @font-face bug, and I'm using a simple font-family declaration, so I don't think that's the problem. On 12/05/11 02:12, Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: On OS X 10.6.7 and on Linux Ubuntu 11.04 the letter is displayed on all your pages. On Linux, Nimbus Roman is used afaict, on OS X Georgia. 'ChromaSSK' not being available on either system. Thanks for testing. That's really weird, because I'm using Ubuntu 11.04 with FF4.0.1 and there's no letter displayed. http://www.islaywebdesign.co.uk/images/dropcap.png I realise there's an easy fix by deleting the ChromaSSK font, which isn't widely available, but I would like to understand why there's a problem in the first place, so I can avoid it in future. Lesley __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Drop Cap missing in FF4
@David: did you see the bug thread? It's amazing how much C++ code is required to make @font-face work. It's something we should consider before blaming implementors, IMHO. :-) On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Lesley Lutomski c...@islaywebdesign.co.ukwrote: On 12/05/11 00:59, David Laakso wrote: Dunno. Is this a blessing or a bug. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=458169 Thanks for the link, but that's an @font-face bug, and I'm using a simple font-family declaration, so I don't think that's the problem. On 12/05/11 02:12, Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: On OS X 10.6.7 and on Linux Ubuntu 11.04 the letter is displayed on all your pages. On Linux, Nimbus Roman is used afaict, on OS X Georgia. 'ChromaSSK' not being available on either system. Thanks for testing. That's really weird, because I'm using Ubuntu 11.04 with FF4.0.1 and there's no letter displayed. http://www.islaywebdesign.co.uk/images/dropcap.png I realise there's an easy fix by deleting the ChromaSSK font, which isn't widely available, but I would like to understand why there's a problem in the first place, so I can avoid it in future. Lesley __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ -- http://www.css-zibaldone.com/ http://www.css-zibaldone.com/test/ (English) http://www.css-zibaldone.com/articles/ (English) http://onwebdev.blogspot.com/ (English) __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Drop Cap missing in FF4
On May 12, 2011, at 6:42 PM, Lesley Lutomski wrote:
Thanks for testing. That's really weird, because I'm using Ubuntu 11.04 with
FF4.0.1 and there's no letter displayed.
http://www.islaywebdesign.co.uk/images/dropcap.png
I realise there's an easy fix by deleting the ChromaSSK font, which isn't
widely available, but I would like to understand why there's a problem in the
first place, so I can avoid it in future.
I've no idea, offhand, what the problem might be. If you open the error console
in Firefox, does it log an error ?
Does it work with a very simple testpage:
!doctype html
style p {color: blue; font-family: 'ChromaSSK', sans-serif;}/style
pThis is a test, the text should be displayed using ChromaSSK/p
Maybe Fx rejects the font for some reason ?
Philippe
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Re: [css-d] Drop Cap missing in FF4
On 12/05/11 13:27, Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: Thanks for testing. That's really weird, because I'm using Ubuntu 11.04 with FF4.0.1 and there's no letter displayed.http://www.islaywebdesign.co.uk/images/dropcap.png I realise there's an easy fix by deleting the ChromaSSK font, which isn't widely available, but I would like to understand why there's a problem in the first place, so I can avoid it in future. I've no idea, offhand, what the problem might be. Thanks Philippe and David for helping. I've solved the problem and, as usual, it was me missing something. ChromaSSK was present on the system, but the permissions on the folder were not set to allow access. Resetting the permissions allowed to to display as before, and when I removed it altogether, Firefox displayed a fall-back font. Sorry - not a CSS issue after all. Lesley __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] Drop Cap missing in FF4
Hi all,
I have a site which uses drop caps at the start of some pages. The code
for this is taken more or less straight out of Dan Cederholm's Web
Standards Solutions, apart from the font-family line.
span class=dropA/span
.drop {float: left;
font-size: 300%;
line-height: 1em;
margin: 4px 10px 0px 0;
padding: 4px 10px;
border: 2px solid #3F006F;
font-family: ChromaSSK, Georgia, Times New Roman, Nimbus Roman No9
L, serif;
background-color: #FF;
}
In FF4 on Linux, the drop cap doesn't display when the first font in the
list is not available, even though the other fonts are all installed.
The coloured background and the border are displayed, but the letter
itself is missing. Chromium and Epiphany both display it using the
first available font. I can't test in anything else just now.
Any ideas why this is happening? I'm probably missing something
obvious. HTML CSS both validate.
Thanks.
Lesley
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Re: [css-d] Drop Cap missing in FF4
Would the :first-letter pseudo class work?
Kevin
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Lesley Lutomski
c...@islaywebdesign.co.ukwrote:
Hi all,
I have a site which uses drop caps at the start of some pages. The code
for this is taken more or less straight out of Dan Cederholm's Web
Standards Solutions, apart from the font-family line.
span class=dropA/span
.drop {float: left;
font-size: 300%;
line-height: 1em;
margin: 4px 10px 0px 0;
padding: 4px 10px;
border: 2px solid #3F006F;
font-family: ChromaSSK, Georgia, Times New Roman, Nimbus Roman
No9 L, serif;
background-color: #FF;
}
In FF4 on Linux, the drop cap doesn't display when the first font in the
list is not available, even though the other fonts are all installed. The
coloured background and the border are displayed, but the letter itself is
missing. Chromium and Epiphany both display it using the first available
font. I can't test in anything else just now.
Any ideas why this is happening? I'm probably missing something obvious.
HTML CSS both validate.
Thanks.
Lesley
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Re: [css-d] Drop Cap missing in FF4
On 5/11/11 3:53 PM, Lesley Lutomski wrote: Hi all, I have a site which uses drop caps at the start of some pages. The code for this is taken more or less straight out of Dan Cederholm's Web Standards Solutions, apart from the font-family line. Any ideas why this is happening? \ Lesley Site uri or an isolated test page uri might help those trying to help... Best, ~d -- http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ http://chelseacreekstudio.com/fa/ __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Drop Cap missing in FF4
On 11/05/11 21:40, David Laakso wrote: Site uri or an isolated test page uri might help those trying to help... Best, ~d Oops - sorry. It's been a long day. http://www.islaywebdesign.co.uk Lesley __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Drop Cap missing in FF4
On 5/11/11 3:53 PM, Lesley Lutomski wrote:
Hi all,
I have a site which uses drop caps at the start of some pages. The
code for this is taken more or less straight out of Dan Cederholm's
Web Standards Solutions, apart from the font-family line.
span class=dropA/span
.drop {float: left;
font-size: 300%;
line-height: 1em;
margin: 4px 10px 0px 0;
padding: 4px 10px;
border: 2px solid #3F006F;
font-family: ChromaSSK, Georgia, Times New Roman, Nimbus
Roman No9 L, serif;
background-color: #FF;
}
In FF4 on Linux, the drop cap doesn't display when the first font in
the list is not available, even though the other fonts are all
installed. The coloured background and the border are displayed, but
the letter itself is missing. Chromium and Epiphany both display it
using the first available font. I can't test in anything else just now.
Any ideas why this is happening? I'm probably missing something
obvious. HTML CSS both validate.
Thanks.
Lesley
Dunno. Is this a blessing or a bug.
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=458169
aside
Personally, I'd accept as a blessing:-) . And reset to sans. Or, drop
altogether... and ditch the drop cap.
Best,
~d
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Re: [css-d] Drop Cap missing in FF4
On May 12, 2011, at 4:53 AM, Lesley Lutomski wrote:
span class=dropA/span
.drop {float: left;
font-size: 300%;
line-height: 1em;
margin: 4px 10px 0px 0;
padding: 4px 10px;
border: 2px solid #3F006F;
font-family: ChromaSSK, Georgia, Times New Roman, Nimbus Roman No9
L, serif;
background-color: #FF;
}
In FF4 on Linux, the drop cap doesn't display when the first font in the list
is not available, even though the other fonts are all installed. The coloured
background and the border are displayed, but the letter itself is missing.
Chromium and Epiphany both display it using the first available font. I
can't test in anything else just now.
http://www.islaywebdesign.co.uk
On OS X 10.6.7 and on Linux Ubuntu 11.04 the letter is displayed on all your
pages. On Linux, Nimbus Roman is used afaict, on OS X Georgia.
'ChromaSSK' not being available on either system.
Philippe
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