Re: [css-d] First post

2007-12-04 Thread Cyber Cog
If you read Erics reply, or maybe read it again. ;-) You may just think to
yourself, I'm just glad someone set this list up so I can get the help and
insight I need,.. cool!. Or not.
Best thoughts.

Really?

Really, really.

- Cy

On 12/4/07, Big Moxy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ditto here! Why do we need to receive duplicate emails?

 Tim

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 No problem here!  I would greatly appreciate it if you
 could share with me how to set that up on Outlook 2007!

 I hate the way this list sends responses to the sender
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  Just an introductory post folks.
 
  Does anyone mind if i have the reply-to: feild explicitly set? The
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Re: [css-d] First post

2007-12-04 Thread Big Moxy
Ditto here! Why do we need to receive duplicate emails?

Tim

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No problem here!  I would greatly appreciate it if you
could share with me how to set that up on Outlook 2007!

I hate the way this list sends responses to the sender
*and* to the list, or I either have to take the time to
strip out the personal email address...

Rick

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 Just an introductory post folks.
 
 Does anyone mind if i have the reply-to: feild explicitly set? The
 rules for the list are not the same as most lists i am on, where Please
 reply to the list, not to me direct is the norm.
 
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Re: [css-d] First post

2007-12-04 Thread Rick Faircloth
At first, any new toy is fun, despite it flaws.

But after 6 months of play, the fun diminishes and
the flaws begin to grate...

Rick

PS - Don't get me wrong, it's a great list, but I'm on quite
a few lists, and almost all function differently.  You have to
hit reply, or reply-to-all, you have to make sure you trim posts,
some don't care, some are topic-strict, others are relaxed.

We talk about so much about standards around here, maybe be
need the *W3L* (list, list and more lists) to determine some standards
that all lists should adhere to.  Completely voluntary, of course,
but you will receive 15 days in jail, 50 lashes, and possible be-heading
if you violate the voluntary standards and are caught allowing your 
2nd-graders
to top post...

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 Subject: Re: [css-d] First post
 
 If you read Erics reply, or maybe read it again. ;-) You may just think to
 yourself, I'm just glad someone set this list up so I can get the help and
 insight I need,.. cool!. Or not.
 Best thoughts.
 
 Really?
 
 Really, really.
 
 - Cy
 
 On 12/4/07, Big Moxy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Ditto here! Why do we need to receive duplicate emails?
 
  Tim
 
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  No problem here!  I would greatly appreciate it if you
  could share with me how to set that up on Outlook 2007!
 
  I hate the way this list sends responses to the sender
  *and* to the list, or I either have to take the time to
  strip out the personal email address...
 
  Rick
 
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   Just an introductory post folks.
  
   Does anyone mind if i have the reply-to: feild explicitly set? The
   rules for the list are not the same as most lists i am on, where Please
   reply to the list, not to me direct is the norm.
  
   --
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Re: [css-d] First post

2007-12-04 Thread Michael Adams
On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 18:54:41 -0500
Rick Faircloth wrote:

 No problem here!  I would greatly appreciate it if you
 could share with me how to set that up on Outlook 2007!
 

Um - no. I'm on Linux. If i was a cynic i would say try Thunderbird with
Lightning as a replacement.

I have heard that they used the Word engine to render HTML mails in
Outlook 2007 which is a serious backward step even compared to previous
versions. A quick google and:
http://www.campaignmonitor.com/blog/archives/2007/01/microsoft_takes_email_design_b.html

 I hate the way this list sends responses to the sender
 *and* to the list, or I either have to take the time to
 strip out the personal email address...
 
 Rick
 
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  Adams Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 1:53 PM
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  Just an introductory post folks.
  
  Does anyone mind if i have the reply-to: feild explicitly set? The
  rules for the list are not the same as most lists i am on, where
  Please reply to the list, not to me direct is the norm.
  


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[css-d] First post

2007-12-03 Thread Michael Adams
Just an introductory post folks.

Does anyone mind if i have the reply-to: feild explicitly set? The
rules for the list are not the same as most lists i am on, where Please
reply to the list, not to me direct is the norm.

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Re: [css-d] First post

2007-12-03 Thread Rick Faircloth
No problem here!  I would greatly appreciate it if you
could share with me how to set that up on Outlook 2007!

I hate the way this list sends responses to the sender
*and* to the list, or I either have to take the time to
strip out the personal email address...

Rick

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 Just an introductory post folks.
 
 Does anyone mind if i have the reply-to: feild explicitly set? The
 rules for the list are not the same as most lists i am on, where Please
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[css-d] First Post. Yay! Browser Discrepancy

2005-10-12 Thread Paul Gaudet
Hey all.nice to be here in an effort to increase knowledgeTIA  
for helping me.


I made a site that looks 'right' in Firefox and 'not-so-right' in  
Internet Explorer.  The differences are minimal.


http://www.northstar-emerg.com/main6.html

#1. the Internet Explorer rendition of the main menu has white lines  
between the menu linksarg.


#2. the Internet Explorer rendition of the Announcemtents box on the  
left seems to mis-align itself.arg matey.


If anyone can make a few suggestions i'd be grateful

rollandb


(i hope i dont get flamed for using a table!)


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RE: [css-d] First Post. Yay! Browser Discrepancy

2005-10-12 Thread Pringle, Ron
 
 I made a site that looks 'right' in Firefox and 'not-so-right' in  
 Internet Explorer.  The differences are minimal.
 
 http://www.northstar-emerg.com/main6.html
 
 #1. the Internet Explorer rendition of the main menu has white lines  
 between the menu linksarg.

 rollandb

Hmm, it appears that the line is coming from the following bit of CSS:

/*** #navBar link styles ***/

/* hack to fix IE/Win's broken rendering of block-level anchors in lists */
#navBar li {border-bottom: 1px solid #EEE;}


I don't know what this hack is fixing, but it appears to be causing the
lines under each menu item. Removing should fix your problem.

Ron
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Re: [css-d] First Post. Yay! Browser Discrepancy

2005-10-12 Thread Paul Gaudet
You are correct Ronnow in IE the menu items have huge gaps  
between them...ah well.


After looking at the stolen css I used and how simple the menu is, I  
think I will start over with something a little less complicated.


thanks tho. Now for the Announcements tab.

rollandb


On Oct 12, 2005, at 3:27 PM, Pringle, Ron wrote:





I made a site that looks 'right' in Firefox and 'not-so-right' in
Internet Explorer.  The differences are minimal.

http://www.northstar-emerg.com/main6.html

#1. the Internet Explorer rendition of the main menu has white lines
between the menu linksarg.





rollandb



Hmm, it appears that the line is coming from the following bit of CSS:

/*** #navBar link styles ***/

/* hack to fix IE/Win's broken rendering of block-level anchors in  
lists */

#navBar li {border-bottom: 1px solid #EEE;}


I don't know what this hack is fixing, but it appears to be  
causing the

lines under each menu item. Removing should fix your problem.

Ron




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Re: [css-d] First Post. Yay! Browser Discrepancy

2005-10-12 Thread Adam Kuehn

http://www.northstar-emerg.com/main6.html

#1. the Internet Explorer rendition of the main menu has white lines
between the menu linksarg.


Hmm, it appears that the line is coming from the following bit of CSS:

/*** #navBar link styles ***/

/* hack to fix IE/Win's broken rendering of block-level anchors in lists */
#navBar li {border-bottom: 1px solid #EEE;}

I don't know what this hack is fixing, but it appears to be causing the
lines under each menu item. Removing should fix your problem.


You are correct Ronnow in IE the menu items have huge gaps 
between them...ah well.


Which is exactly what the hack was fixing to begin with.  This is IE 
refusing to ignore white space between list items.  Adding a 
border-bottom is one of the more obscure fixes for the problem.  You 
can do the same thing by removing the white space between the list 
items in the markup.  A popular way to do this is to place the 
carriage returns inside the li tags, like so:


div id=navBardiv id=sectionLinks
  ul
lia href=#Home/a/li
lia href=#About Us/a/li
lia href=#Biographies/a/li
lia href=#Announcements/a/li
lia href=#Health News/a/li
lia href=#Contact Us/a/li
lia href=#Login/a/li
/ulbr /br /
/div/div

A little odd to read at first, but effective and completely avoids 
the need for the underline.


BTW, I'd remove those br / tags, too.  Use bottom margin or padding 
to get the spacing you need.


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[css-d] first post - floating a list beside images

2005-07-18 Thread web.de

Hello everybody!

This is my first post, so hopefully I do it alright.

Here is my question/problem:
I'd like to make a menue with a simple list (ul), shown in three  
columns. Putting the list in a div, filling it with nine li and  
formatting it with something like

ul {display: block; height: 100px; with:300px; list-style: none;}
li {display: block; float: left; height: 30%; width: 30%;}
everything works fine for me.
But my goal is to visually tilt the list a little bit. here you can find  
how it should look like in the end:

http://www.machers.at/clubtest/menue.jpg

I tried to position three different images inside the div formatted with  
{float: left; clear: left;}. I read about this in Eric Meyer on CSS. It  
works fine in IE6 and Opera 7something, but not in Firefox and Netscape7.1.
In the last two browsers the ul starts down at the last image, not at  
the first image in the box like I want it to be.

So I changed to
ul {display: inline;}
li {display: inline;}
In this case, everything is floating. But I desperately _need_ widths an  
heights to style the menue independent from the text/links inside the  
lis.

What I tried last, was to put the a elements inside the li to
{display: block; float: left; height: 30%; width: 30%;}
with the nearly the same result as described above: ie works, opera works,  
firefox and netscape (i guess mozilla too) fail.
Look here with different browsers: http://www.machers.at/clubtest/ and  
tell me, what I do wrong, or if there is an other possibility to achieve  
this.


regards,
chris
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Re: [css-d] First Post ;)

2005-07-18 Thread Gene Falck

Hi Dwain and Omar Kilani,

You wrote:


http://www.dur.ac.uk/ITS/WWW/accessibility/guidelines/priority2/.forms.php


this link is no longer good.
dwain


Try:

http://www.dur.ac.uk/its/services/web/accessibility/guidelines/priority2/forms/

Instead.


Thanks--I'll change my notes on that one.

Regards,

Gene Falck
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Re: [css-d] first post - floating a list beside images

2005-07-18 Thread Paul Novitski

Hi Chris,

At 11:50 AM 7/18/2005, you wrote:

I forgot to mention, that the ul / li structur is generated by a cms
system (mambo CMS). So I can't apply different ids or classes to different
lis unless I make some changes of some sourcecode (which i can't).
all I have is a simple list... So I guess there's no way to do this?


Never say no way!  Actually, often when I say no way it turns out to be 
just what my brain needed to come up with a solution where none seemed 
possible.  Just because you can't modify the UL list doesn't mean you're 
doomed, it just means you have to be sneaky.


The only aspect of your problem that I don't see an immediate solution to 
is how to indent each row of menu items a bit less each time.  Hmm...  If 
you can control the HTML outside of the UL, one way might be to float the 
menu beside a series of boxes of decreasing width:

        
|| ||||||
|| | item 1 || item 2 || item 3 |
|| ||||||
 __       
|  | ||||||
|  | | item 4 || item 5 || item 6 |
|__| ||||||
 _       
| | ||||||
| | | item 7 || item 8 || item 9 |
|_| ||||||

This might be possible if the LI elements are declared as inline, not 
floating blocks.  I've seen this technique used to shape text blocks.  I 
think it might be contrary to the W3C spec to nest a block inside an inline 
element, but not you could style

li { display: inline; }
li a {display: block; }
and get the dimensions you're looking for.



the graphical aspect isn't really a problem, cause I don't need to make it
resizable. A simple parallelogram as background image will do.


If you've really decided to have a non-resizable menu (too bad for people 
with limited vision!) you could even have the entire menu -- the 3x3 matrix 
of parallelograms -- be one large image with the UL LI items positioned 
beneath or on top.  You would still have the problem of indenting each row 
of items...




P.S. Should I post a reply like this also within the mailing list? As I
told: I'm new to this...


Yes, I would post replies to the list, as long as you're still discussing 
aspects of the same problem.  There are undoubtedly people following the 
conversation who will want to know as much as possible about the shape of 
the problem so they can apply any possible solutions to their own work.


Regards,
Paul



Am Mon, 18 Jul 2005 17:38:21 +0200 hat Paul Novitski
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At 02:42 AM 7/18/2005, web.de wrote:

how it should look like in the end:
http://www.machers.at/clubtest/menue.jpg
Look here with different browsers: http://www.machers.at/clubtest/ and
tell me, what I do wrong, or if there is an other possibility to achieve
this.


Chris,

Here's how I would approach this problem:

- Give the first li of each row (items 1, 4,  6) a class or id.

- Clear the float for items 4  6.

- Give item 1 a left-margin of, say, 2em, and item 4 a left-margin of 1
em.  This will stagger the cells of your matrix.

- Give the anchor tags in your list a background image that is your
parallelogram:

 __
.   / /.
.  / / .
. / /  .
./ /   .
/_/.

snip
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Re: [css-d] First Post ;)

2005-07-17 Thread Bob Easton

William Bennett wrote:
Hi everyone, I've never actually joined a mailing list. We'll see how it 
goes.. 



I had a question and was wondering if anyone knew some suggestions. I'm 
looking to make a contact page and I wanna do it all in CSS. Do you guys 
know some links for Forms and CSS besides 
http://jeffhowden.com/code/css/forms/


Cameron Adams has a very good article about forms which are not only 
well styled, but have good accessibility characteristics. Be sure to 
study the companion layout templates.


http://www.themaninblue.com/writing/perspective/2004/03/24/?styles=

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Re: [css-d] First Post ;)

2005-07-17 Thread Ken Robinson

At 09:26 PM 7/16/2005, William Bennett wrote:

Hi everyone, I've never actually joined a mailing list. We'll see how it
goes..


Welcome to the list.

First suggestion, please make your subject lines meaningful. Most 
people in a list (especially one as active as this one) will skip 
over a post such as this due to the fact that the subject line 
doesn't relate to the question.




I had a question and was wondering if anyone knew some suggestions. I'm
looking to make a contact page and I wanna do it all in CSS. Do you guys
know some links for Forms and CSS besides
http://jeffhowden.com/code/css/forms/


Did you use a search engine to look? I entered the search phrase css 
forms into Google and got back plenty of hits.


Ken 


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Re: [css-d] First Post ;)

2005-07-17 Thread dwain

Gene Falck wrote:

http://www.dur.ac.uk/ITS/WWW/accessibility/guidelines/priority2/.forms.php


this link is no longer good.
dwain

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[css-d] First Post ;)

2005-07-16 Thread William Bennett
Hi everyone, I've never actually joined a mailing list. We'll see how it 
goes.. 


I had a question and was wondering if anyone knew some suggestions. I'm 
looking to make a contact page and I wanna do it all in CSS. Do you guys 
know some links for Forms and CSS besides 
http://jeffhowden.com/code/css/forms/

or knew some insite on the subject.


Thanks,

William Bennett
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[css-d] First Post - IE 6.0 Trouble

2005-05-25 Thread Barb @ BITS LLC

Hi -

I'm working on expanding my css knowledge and am trying to get my first 
full css site working.  I'm having alignment issues in IE 6.0.  If you 
look at the top of the page in IE 6.0 the top of the box graphic is 
separated from the banner graphic with a gray line in between.  Why is 
this and how do I correct it?  Everything I've tried so far has not 
worked.  The page looks fine in Mozilla and in Fire Fox.   
http://www.bitsllc.com/cbagroup/final/philosophy.html   I would have 
searched the archives for a solution, but being new to CSS I had no idea 
of what term to search for to find a solution.


Thank you in advance for your assistance.

Barb S
BITS LLC


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Re: [css-d] First Post - IE 6.0 Trouble

2005-05-25 Thread Barb @ BITS LLC

Pactum web services wrote:

Try sucking the HTML comments snug to the preceding and following 
code, and see if that makes a difference. Like so:


div id=banner/div
div id=nav-toplevel!--   Start of meta navbar: place links which
  apply to the whole site here
--div id=nav-meta

tim


Tim Gallant
http://www.pactumgroup.com

Basic tutorials: http://www.pactumgroup.com/tutorials/
Web dev FAQs: http://www.pactumgroup.com/tutorials/faq.php
Techblog: http://www.pactumgroup.com/techblog
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Thank you for the suggestion Tim.  Unfortunately, nothing has changed.  
http://www.bitsllc.com/cbagroup/final/philosophy.html

Barb S
BITS LLC

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[css-d] First Post - IE 6.0 Trouble

2005-05-25 Thread Cook, Graham R
Add font-size:1px; to your #banner style

Graham Cook 

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Subject: [css-d] First Post - IE 6.0 Trouble

Hi -

I'm working on expanding my css knowledge and am trying to get my first
full css site working.  I'm having alignment issues in IE 6.0.  If you
look at the top of the page in IE 6.0 the top of the box graphic is
separated from the banner graphic with a gray line in between.  Why is
this and how do I correct it?  Everything I've tried so far has not 
worked.  The page looks fine in Mozilla and in Fire Fox.   
http://www.bitsllc.com/cbagroup/final/philosophy.html   I would have 
searched the archives for a solution, but being new to CSS I had no idea
of what term to search for to find a solution.

Thank you in advance for your assistance.

Barb S
BITS LLC


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