Re: [css-d] Fixed up Style sheets !!!

[Cynthia M. Brumbaugh]

Ok, I stayed out until now too.

Christopher, do your parents know what you're doing? Perhaps it is time to
go outside and play a little, let some steam off.


On 7/28/08 11:11 PM, "Christopher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Alan K Baker wrote:
>> If you're going to self-indulge in such utter childishness, then it's
>> unlikely you will get any help. :-(

>>   - Original Message -
>>   From: Christopher
>>   To: CSS Discuss
>>   Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 3:42 AM
>>   Subject: Re: [css-d] Fixed up Style sheets !!!
>>  
>>   Oh, I forgot no more help for me I am the bad one

>>   
> I'm not self-indulging in nothing, I just found it odd that I posted a
> question and until this question did someone respond. Most likely most
> read the other post and mumbled something under their breath.  This list
> does not support grudge holding?


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Re: [css-d] Fixed up Style sheets !!!

[Bobby Jack]

--- On Tue, 7/29/08, Christopher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello, I have fixed some of my problems I have encountered
> on my site, there are a few more issues and I have
> done some over view of the styles and so forth.  I'd
> like to know if you take a look at the page at
> http://www.walkfar.ca/test/productionsite18.html 
>
> - In Opera 9.51 the "sheep" word overlaps the "W" and the "you" word 
> overlaps the "T"
>
> - In IE7 the "W" is cut off but the rest of the text looks good compared 
> to Opera 9.51 **BUT**
>
> - In FF3 the gap between the rest of the text and the "W" is too large 

Hi Christopher,

Please realise that not all of us are awake at 2.00AM (BST), and not everyone 
has lost patience with you, despite the huge volume of your questions.

I earlier suggested that the use of "first-letter" is probably not ideal due to 
poor browser support, particularly when combined with floats and the desire to 
have a 'pixel-perfect' design. I also suggested that Paul Boag's approach 
(http://boagworld.com/usability/content_is_dead_long_live_cont/) is probably 
worth trying. I'm not an expert on 'first-letter', but Paul is a guy who 
generally knows his stuff pretty well, and I'm guessing there's a good reason 
he's taken an alternative approach.

The main cause of your problems appears to be your declaration of a 50-pixel 
font-size for the first letter, which appears in a paragraph with a line-height 
of 16-pixels. Take a look at this page 
(http://www.fiveminuteargument.com/line-height) for an overview of how 
line-height works. Also check out a very simple example 
(http://www.fiveminuteargument.com/line-height-basic) which demonstrates the 
'line-height smaller than font-size' issue.

- Bobby


  
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Re: [css-d] Fixed up Style sheets !!!

[Duncan Hill]

On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 01:41:28 +0100, Christopher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

> Hello, I have fixed some of my problems I have encountered on my site,
> there are a few more issues and I have
> done some over view of the styles and so forth.  I'd like to know if you
> take a look at the page at
> http://www.walkfar.ca/test/productionsite18.html
> 
> - In Opera 9.51 the "sheep" word overlaps the "W" and the "you" word
> overlaps the "T"
> - In IE7 the "W" is cut off but the rest of the text looks good compared
> to Opera 9.51 **BUT**
> In FF3 the gap between the rest of the text and the "W" is too large
> also the quote is gone in IE7

Christopher,

As I tried to explain in my many off-list posts, you must start to look at  
the problem again.
Your problems are far from fixed, in fact they are increasing in spite of  
the fact that you think the page displays correctly. This is more like  
throwing confetti, if you throw enough, some will stick in the right place.

Both your XHTML and your CSS are increasing for very little result.  
Without altering your XHTML, I reduced your CSS from around 196 lines of  
code, to 80 lines by removing redundant rules.
With the XHTML created correctly in the first place, the code for your CSS  
would reduce even more dramatically.

Your CSS declarations must fight amongst themselves before they get to the  
page.

Duncan
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Re: [css-d] Fixed up Style sheets !!!

[Christopher]

Alan K Baker wrote:
> If you're going to self-indulge in such utter childishness, then it's 
> unlikely you will get any help. :-(
> Or is this just another sneaky way of posting the same question twice?
> You really don't have to quote the entire body of the previous message, even 
> if it's your own.
>
> Regards, 
>  
> Alan.
>  
> www.theatreorgans.co.uk
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>
>
>   - Original Message - 
>   From: Christopher 
>   To: CSS Discuss 
>   Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 3:42 AM
>   Subject: Re: [css-d] Fixed up Style sheets !!!
>  
>   Oh, I forgot no more help for me I am the bad one
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>   
I'm not self-indulging in nothing, I just found it odd that I posted a 
question and until this question did someone respond. Most likely most
read the other post and mumbled something under their breath.  This list 
does not support grudge holding?


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Re: [css-d] Fixed up Style sheets !!!

[Alan K Baker]

If you're going to self-indulge in such utter childishness, then it's unlikely 
you will get any help. :-(
Or is this just another sneaky way of posting the same question twice?
You really don't have to quote the entire body of the previous message, even if 
it's your own.

Regards, 
 
Alan.
 
www.theatreorgans.co.uk
www.virtualtheatreorgans.com
Admin: ConnArtistes, UKShopsmiths, 2nd Touch & A-P groups
Shopsmith 520 + bits
Flatulus Antiquitus


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  From: Christopher 
  To: CSS Discuss 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 3:42 AM
  Subject: Re: [css-d] Fixed up Style sheets !!!
 
  Oh, I forgot no more help for me I am the bad one
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Re: [css-d] Fixed up Style sheets !!!

[Christopher]

Christopher wrote:
> Hello, I have fixed some of my problems I have encountered on my site, 
> there are a few more issues and I have
> done some over view of the styles and so forth.  I'd like to know if you 
> take a look at the page at
> http://www.walkfar.ca/test/productionsite18.html 
> 
> - In Opera 9.51 the "sheep" word overlaps the "W" and the "you" word 
> overlaps the "T"
> - In IE7 the "W" is cut off but the rest of the text looks good compared 
> to Opera 9.51 **BUT**
> In FF3 the gap between the rest of the text and the "W" is too large 
> also the quote is gone in IE7
>
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[css-d] Fixed up Style sheets !!!

[Christopher]

Hello, I have fixed some of my problems I have encountered on my site, 
there are a few more issues and I have
done some over view of the styles and so forth.  I'd like to know if you 
take a look at the page at
http://www.walkfar.ca/test/productionsite18.html 

- In Opera 9.51 the "sheep" word overlaps the "W" and the "you" word 
overlaps the "T"
- In IE7 the "W" is cut off but the rest of the text looks good compared 
to Opera 9.51 **BUT**
In FF3 the gap between the rest of the text and the "W" is too large 
also the quote is gone in IE7

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