Re: [css-d] Image text box

2010-03-15 Thread Brian M. Curran
 Brian M. Curran wrote:
 Hi All,
 I've never done this before... I made a bordered text box around an image 
 using a paragraph. It can be found here:

 http://www.draftingservices.com/building_survey.html

 Would this be considered acceptable CSS or make-shift?

 Sincerely,
 Brian



 David Laakso wrote:
 It seems to work the way you have it cross-browder. Not sure why you need 
 such very long selector names, though.

 This explains another method for achieving what you're after.
 http://css.maxdesign.com.au/floatutorial/tutorial0204.htm

 Either way, you may want to add this to keep the text and image within 
 their own block:
 h5 {border: 1px solid red; clear:both; }

 Best,
 ~d



Great link, thank you. The addition code for my current situation is not 
making sense though? My current CSS and HTML are:

p.articleImageTextRight {
 width: 200px;
 float: right;
 margin: 0 0 5px 5px;
 padding: 5px;
 border: 1px solid #000;
 background: #eee;
 font-size: x-small;
 }

p.articleImageTextRight img {
 margin-bottom: 5px;
 }


p class=articleImageTextRight
img src=images/building_survey.jpg alt=Building Survey width=200 
height=259/
br/
Building survey floor plan.
/p 

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Re: [css-d] Image text box

2010-03-15 Thread David Laakso
Brian M. Curran wrote:
 Brian M. Curran wrote:
 
 Hi All,
 I've never done this before... I made a bordered text box around an image 
 using a paragraph. It can be found here:

 http://www.draftingservices.com/building_survey.html

 Would this be considered acceptable CSS or make-shift?

 Sincerely,
 Brian

   


   
 This explains another method for achieving what you're after.
 http://css.maxdesign.com.au/floatutorial/tutorial0204.htm

 Best,
 ~d

 


 Great link, thank you. The addition code for my current situation is not 
 making sense though? My current CSS and HTML are:


   




Then I guess all I can suggest is that you do it differently and change 
the css/markup following the above provided tutorial?

Best,
~d




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mobile
http://chelseacreekstudio.mobi/

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Re: [css-d] Image text box

2010-03-15 Thread Brian M. Curran
 Brian M. Curran wrote:

 Hi All,
 I've never done this before... I made a bordered text box around an 
 image using a paragraph. It can be found here:

 http://www.draftingservices.com/building_survey.html

 Would this be considered acceptable CSS or make-shift?

 Sincerely,
 Brian



   David Laakso wrote:
 This explains another method for achieving what you're after.
 http://css.maxdesign.com.au/floatutorial/tutorial0204.htm

 Best,
 ~d




 Brian M. Curran wrote:
 Great link, thank you. The addition code for my current situation is not 
 making sense though? My current CSS and HTML are:




 David Laakso wrote:
 Then I guess all I can suggest is that you do it differently and change 
 the css/markup following the above provided tutorial?




Why would I do that, if what I've done works. ...This basically harkens back 
to my original question.

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Re: [css-d] Image text box

2010-03-15 Thread Bill Braun

Brian M. Curran wrote:
 Brian M. Curran wrote:
 
 Hi All,
 I've never done this before... I made a bordered text box around an 
 image using a paragraph. It can be found here:

 http://www.draftingservices.com/building_survey.html

 Would this be considered acceptable CSS or make-shift?

 Sincerely,
 Brian

   
 David Laakso wrote:
 Then I guess all I can suggest is that you do it differently and change 
 the css/markup following the above provided tutorial?
 

 Why would I do that, if what I've done works. ...This basically harkens back 
 to my original question.
   

I don't mean this as nit-picking...your original question was Would 
this be considered acceptable CSS or make-shift?, not whether it works 
or not. That is the question to which David is responding.

Bill B

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Re: [css-d] Image text box

2010-03-15 Thread Skip Knox
Your question has more to do with HTML than CSS -- asking if using a
paragraph tag is okay as long as it works -- but I'll respond anyway.

There are two different kind of it works in our business. There's it
works for me and there's it works across browsers.

An important point about standards is to come up with a way that your code
not only works across browsers but will continue to work even as browsers
change. The notion is that if you write compliant code, and the community
develops compliant browsers, everything will continue to work with little or
no disruption.

So the important question is not whether your approach works but whether
your approach complies with the standards. I believe that was the purpose
behind referring you to the tutorial. If your only benchmark is it works
then the tutorial is indeed irrelevant. The developer is free to code as he
pleases, and the visitor is free to retreat in frustration. :)



Skip Knox
Boise State University

Why would I do that, if what I've done works. ...This basically harkens back

 to my original question.


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Re: [css-d] Image text box

2010-03-15 Thread Brian M. Curran

 Your question has more to do with HTML than CSS -- asking if using a
 paragraph tag is okay as long as it works -- but I'll respond anyway.

 There are two different kind of it works in our business. There's it
 works for me and there's it works across browsers.

 Brian M. Curran wrote:

 Hi All,
 I've never done this before... I made a bordered text box around an
 image using a paragraph. It can be found here:

 http://www.draftingservices.com/building_survey.html

 Would this be considered acceptable CSS or make-shift?

 Sincerely,
 Brian






 Why would I do that, if what I've done works. ...This basically harkens 
 back to my original question.





 An important point about standards is to come up with a way that your code
 not only works across browsers but will continue to work even as browsers
 change. The notion is that if you write compliant code, and the community
 develops compliant browsers, everything will continue to work with little 
 or
 no disruption.

 So the important question is not whether your approach works but whether
 your approach complies with the standards. I believe that was the purpose
 behind referring you to the tutorial. If your only benchmark is it works
 then the tutorial is indeed irrelevant. The developer is free to code as 
 he
 pleases, and the visitor is free to retreat in frustration. :)



 Skip Knox
 Boise State University



Thanks Skip. I recognized that from the outset. That is, that I could have 
created something that worked but was not acceptable. - I'm looking to 
learn here.

Pointing me to a tutorial, while helpful, didn't answer my question. Of 
course sometimes errors in coding may become self-evident if one is pointed 
to a tutorial, but in this instance that is not what happened. It just 
seemed like an alternative way to do what I've already done. It seemed more 
like preference, than whether or not what I had already done was acceptable 
or not. I thought the point of my question was clear enough. I was asking 
for a No, because... or Yes, because... response.

Lastly, whether or not my question is more CSS or HTML based. You may be 
right that it is more HTML based. Regardless, I believe it is intimately 
connected to CSS.

Sincerely,
Brian

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Re: [css-d] Image text box

2010-03-15 Thread Skip Knox
I was asking for a No, because... or Yes, because... response.

Fair enough.

No, because it's not a paragraph, it's an image. A reader (forget humans,
just think reading mechanisms, which can include humans) when it sees a p
expects to see a paragraph of content. Instead it sees an image. The proper
markup for that is the img tag. If that needs a wrapper, that's what div
is for (it's for any arbitrary block, as span is for any arbitrary
string).

So, wrenching this over in the direction of CSS, when you want to style an
image and perhaps some associated text, the proper thing to style would be a
div rather than a p.  It'd be really sweet if HTML had a tag that would
encompass not only the graphic itself but also associated content, but I've
not seen any stirrings in that direction.


Skip Knox
Boise State University
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Re: [css-d] Image text box

2010-03-15 Thread Brian M. Curran
I was asking for a No, because... or Yes, because... response.

Fair enough.

No, because it's not a paragraph, it's an image. A reader (forget humans, just 
think reading mechanisms, which can include humans) when it sees a p expects 
to see a paragraph of content. Instead it sees an image. The proper markup 
for that is the img tag. If that needs a wrapper, that's what div is for 
(it's for any arbitrary block, as span is for any arbitrary string).

So, wrenching this over in the direction of CSS, when you want to style an 
image and perhaps some associated text, the proper thing to style would be a 
div rather than a p.  It'd be really sweet if HTML had a tag that would 
encompass not only the graphic itself but also associated content, but I've 
not seen any stirrings in that direction.


Skip Knox
Boise State University





Thank you! :-) ...And of course thanks to David too. :-)

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Re: [css-d] Image text box

2010-03-15 Thread Brian M. Curran
ta-da!!!

http://www.draftingservices.com/building_survey.html


CSS:
.textBox
 {
 width: 200px;
 float: right;
 margin: 0 0 5px 5px;
 padding: 5px;
 border: 1px solid #000;
 background: #fff;
 font-size: x-small;
 }

HTML:
div class=textBox
img src=images/building_survey.jpg alt=Building Survey width=200 
height=259/
br/
Building survey floor plan.
/div



Thanks again to all who helped me!! Now I can add other images to my site too. 
:-)
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[css-d] Image text box

2010-03-13 Thread Brian M. Curran
Hi All,
I've never done this before... I made a bordered text box around an image using 
a paragraph. It can be found here:

http://www.draftingservices.com/building_survey.html

Would this be considered acceptable CSS or make-shift?

Sincerely,
Brian
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Re: [css-d] Image text box

2010-03-13 Thread David Laakso
Brian M. Curran wrote:
 Hi All,
 I've never done this before... I made a bordered text box around an image 
 using a paragraph. It can be found here:

 http://www.draftingservices.com/building_survey.html

 Would this be considered acceptable CSS or make-shift?

 Sincerely,
 Brian
   



It seems to work the way you have it cross-browder. Not sure why you 
need such very long selector names, though.

This explains another method for achieving what you're after.
http://css.maxdesign.com.au/floatutorial/tutorial0204.htm

Either way, you may want to add this to keep the text and image within 
their own block:
h5 {border: 1px solid red; clear:both; }

Best,
~d

-- 
desktop
http://chelseacreekstudio.com/
mobile
http://chelseacreekstudio.mobi/

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