[css-d] Is this even possible with blockquote?

2010-06-28 Thread Claude Needham
On the following page I have a div floating to the left with a
blockquote wrapping it on the right.

http://www.imag3.com/test/

Is there a way to style the blockquote and/or the floating div such
that the left margin of the blockquote comes into play for the text
along side the div?

If I put the h1, p, and blockquote inside another context then
everything will behave as expected. But then I lose the word wrap
effect.

I am thinking there is either I am overlooking an extremely easy and
painfully obvious means of doing this, or, it isn't really possible to
accomplish until a future version of css.

Regards,
Claude Needham
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Re: [css-d] Is this even possible with blockquote?

2010-06-28 Thread Climis, Tim


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 On the following page I have a div floating to the left with a blockquote
 wrapping it on the right.
 
 http://www.imag3.com/test/
 
 Is there a way to style the blockquote and/or the floating div such that
 the left margin of the blockquote comes into play for the text along
 side the div?
 
 If I put the h1, p, and blockquote inside another context then
 everything will behave as expected. But then I lose the word wrap
 effect.
 
 I am thinking there is either I am overlooking an extremely easy and
 painfully obvious means of doing this, or, it isn't really possible to
 accomplish until a future version of css.
 

I think the problem is that the blockquote box doesn't change shape.  It's 
still a rectangle.  So the margin (or padding - I tried that too) is behind the 
pink div.  It doesn't get pushed to the side with the text.  Adding a border 
makes this easy to see.  The border gets hidden behind the block, instead of 
going around it.

So I'm currently leaning toward impossible, but someone may show me up.  You 
might try googling for lists, which would also have this problem.  I know I've 
seen that discussed on this list before.

---Tim
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Re: [css-d] Is this even possible with blockquote?

2010-06-28 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
Claude Needham wrote:

 On the following page I have a div floating to the left with a
 blockquote wrapping it on the right.

 http://www.imag3.com/test/

I don't see anything in your CSS code that would affect the blockquote; you 
have

blockquote {
 }

 Is there a way to style the blockquote and/or the floating div such
 that the left margin of the blockquote comes into play for the text
 along side the div?

I don't see what you are aiming at. It seems that you wish to float the 
blockquote but don't actually set anything in CSS on blockquote elements.

 If I put the h1, p, and blockquote inside another context then
 everything will behave as expected. But then I lose the word wrap
 effect.

Maybe it would help if you posted a real example URL demonstrating what you 
want, except for word wrap effect, whatever that means.

-- 
Yucca, http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/ 

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Re: [css-d] Is this even possible with blockquote?

2010-06-28 Thread Claude Needham
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Jukka K. Korpela jkorp...@cs.tut.fi wrote:
 http://www.imag3.com/test/
 I don't see what you are aiming at. It seems that you wish to float the
 blockquote but don't actually set anything in CSS on blockquote elements.
 Maybe it would help if you posted a real example URL demonstrating what you
 want, except for word wrap effect, whatever that means.

At the bottom of the page (http://www.imag3.com/test/  same as
previous URL) there is a sample of the visual effect I am looking for.
However, this is a fragile solution that could break with changes in
font size, length of h1, length of p element etc.

A typical form for a blockquote has an extra inset. In the sample as
shown in the upper part of the example page, there is no left margin
on the h1, p, or blockquote. The only way I know of to simulate the
left margin is to add a margin-right to the floating dive. But this
will give the same apparent left-margin to the h1, p, and blockquote.

I was hoping the blockquote could be treated so that it would be shown
with the little extra indent that is typical for blockquote.

As mentioned by Tim, this problem will also be evident in lists. I was
hoping that any solution here would also transfer to lists.

I am leaning toward impossible at the moment. But I have seen folks
on this list contribute css suggestions that were absolutely amazing
to me in my limited css. So, I'm still holding out some hope that
there is a proper solution.

Regards,
Claude
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Re: [css-d] Is this even possible with blockquote?

2010-06-28 Thread David Laakso
Claude Needham wrote:
 http://www.imag3.com/test/

 Is there a way to style the blockquote and/or the floating div such
 that the left margin of the blockquote comes into play for the text
 along side the div?

 Claude Needham
   




Claude,

I don't know if this will work for you in the particular situation you 
have at hand?
http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/cssd/bq.html

Best,
~d




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Re: [css-d] Is this even possible with blockquote?

2010-06-28 Thread Claude Needham
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 1:29 PM, David Laakso
da...@chelseacreekstudio.com wrote:
 I don't know if this will work for you in the particular situation you have
 at hand?
 http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/cssd/bq.html

 Best,
 ~d

Thanks David,

That is the kind of solution that I suspect will be necessary. Was
hoping for something more fluid, but alas, I don't think that is
possible.

Thanks for the sample, I always learn something new when I look into your css.

Claude
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Re: [css-d] Is this even possible with blockquote?

2010-06-28 Thread David Laakso
Claude Needham wrote:
 On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 1:29 PM, David Laakso
 da...@chelseacreekstudio.com wrote:
   
 I don't know if this will work for you in the particular situation you have
 at hand?
 http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/cssd/bq.html

 Best,
 ~d
 

 Thanks David,

 That is the kind of solution that I suspect will be necessary. Was
 hoping for something more fluid, but alas, I don't think that is
 possible.

 Thanks for the sample, I always learn something new when I look into your css.

 Claude

   




I understood the question-- just couldn't make it happen.

Wait. Someone else may come along with what you need.

Best,
~d




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