Re: [css-d] OS Specific CSS?
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 11:46 AM, David Hucklesby wrote: > I am not saying that a reset is bad-- just that it is usually > unnecessary. I will say it for you then. It is virtually always bad. IMO -- Ed Seedhouse __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] OS Specific CSS?
On 7/16/10 6:27 AM, Tom Livingston wrote: > Do you use a reset sheet? Maybe this could help you? > > On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 4:51 PM, absynthe minded web smithes > wrote: >> Is there a way to target styles to specific OS's? FF for Mac and FF >> for Windows have slight differences in how they handle legends, >> fonts, and other little things I have yet to discover. I've also >> noticed little differences in Webkit browsers. >> > > "Maybe [a reset sheet] could help you?" Or not... I mentor beginning adult Web students. The teacher promotes the use of reset styles. As a result, students end up with hundreds of CSS rules for the simplest of pages, most of which add back the self-same rules taken off by the reset. It also leads them to over-specify everything. I am not saying that a reset is bad-- just that it is usually unnecessary. One of the most popular is Eric Meyer's, yet in his original article he states explicitly that it is not meant to be used "as is." It was certainly very useful for me, as it led me to investigate and understand exactly what styles are added by browsers. FWIW - I find that all browsers that I use for testing are consistent in styling most elements, that the sizes and spacing generally conform to practices long established in print media, and are generally what I want. This leads to style sheets that are quite manageable. Cordially, David -- __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] OS Specific CSS?
Ar 16/07/10 03:06, ysgrifennodd Philippe Wittenbergh : > > That would be me too… > > I've yet to discover differences on how Gecko (or Webkit) handle things > differently depending on platform (except, eventually, with experimental > features; but those are - hmm, experimental ? - and prone to all kind of > breakage anyway). > > Do you have specific issues that you need help with ? > > Philippe > --- > Philippe Wittenbergh > http://l-c-n.com/ > > > I've occasionally noticed differences in form rendering between FF on Linux (Ubuntu) and FF on Windows (XP). I don't have an example to hand, though, unfortunately. Cheers Peter -- http://www.peredur.net __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] OS Specific CSS?
In this case, a reset sheet is not an option. I'm inserting new, standards based code into a legacy, (deeply nested) table-based layout. It would play havoc with the pages on which I'm working. But ... I could try resetting the specific elements, and see what effect that has. Thanks Tom and Stuart. -- Marc Luzietti absynthe minded web smithes http://www.absynthe.us/ 954.496.0162 On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 9:27 AM, Tom Livingston wrote: > Do you use a reset sheet? Maybe this could help you? > > On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 4:51 PM, absynthe minded web smithes > wrote: >> Is there a way to target styles to specific OS's? FF for Mac and FF >> for Windows have slight differences in how they handle legends, fonts, >> and other little things I have yet to discover. I've also noticed >> little differences in Webkit browsers. >> > > > -- > > Tom Livingston | Senior Interactive Developer | Media Logic | > ph: 518.456.3015x231 | fx: 518.456.4279 | mlinc.com > __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] OS Specific CSS?
Do you use a reset sheet? Maybe this could help you? On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 4:51 PM, absynthe minded web smithes wrote: > Is there a way to target styles to specific OS's? FF for Mac and FF > for Windows have slight differences in how they handle legends, fonts, > and other little things I have yet to discover. I've also noticed > little differences in Webkit browsers. > -- Tom Livingston | Senior Interactive Developer | Media Logic | ph: 518.456.3015x231 | fx: 518.456.4279 | mlinc.com __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] OS Specific CSS?
On Jul 16, 2010, at 10:39 AM, David Hucklesby wrote: > On 7/15/10 1:51 PM, absynthe minded web smithes wrote: >> Is there a way to target styles to specific OS's? FF for Mac and FF >> for Windows have slight differences in how they handle legends, >> fonts, and other little things I have yet to discover. I've also >> noticed little differences in Webkit browsers. >> > > [...] > > But that's me... That would be me too… I've yet to discover differences on how Gecko (or Webkit) handle things differently depending on platform (except, eventually, with experimental features; but those are - hmm, experimental ? - and prone to all kind of breakage anyway). Do you have specific issues that you need help with ? Philippe --- Philippe Wittenbergh http://l-c-n.com/ __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] OS Specific CSS?
On 7/15/10 1:51 PM, absynthe minded web smithes wrote: > Is there a way to target styles to specific OS's? FF for Mac and FF > for Windows have slight differences in how they handle legends, > fonts, and other little things I have yet to discover. I've also > noticed little differences in Webkit browsers. > Do those "slight differences" wreck the design or usability of your site? If not, I suggest you don't worry about it. As far as fonts go, there are very significant differences not only across platforms, but settings like DPI, type of screen, available fonts, and a whole host of user-configurable browser and OS settings. There are many new devices arriving on the Web-enabled scene, too. It's my opinion that you'd be better off spending time on designing for these new platforms than on fixing slight differences across desktops and laptops. But that's me... Cordially, David -- __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] OS Specific CSS?
Is there a way to target styles to specific OS's? FF for Mac and FF for Windows have slight differences in how they handle legends, fonts, and other little things I have yet to discover. I've also noticed little differences in Webkit browsers. Other than using JS or server side sniffers. -- Marc Luzietti absynthe minded web smithes http://www.absynthe.us/ 954.496.0162 __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
