[css-d] SOURCE (HTML + CSS) VALIDATES / FF 2.0.0.10 11 BEHAVES STRANGE

2007-12-01 Thread Jan Christian Anker 
Here is something interesting (Operating System is
Win XP 2002 Svp 2):

First open http://www.putti.no in IE 7.0, you should
see a page that displays OK.

Now, clean cache, cookies, etc and open the page in
FF 2.0.0.10 or FF 2.0.0.11.  You will notice that 
the menu is not displaying properly (main menu line
above display area, only partly visible).

Now, do a refresh, and the menu is back in place, but 
still with problems.

My conclusion is that (this time) it is not my fault,
but a bug in FireFox, since the page display completely
different after the first refresh.

I would also be most happy if somebody could test the
page in FF 2.0.0.9; I believe that the behavior is
OK there.

Comments / Ideas / Suggestions are most welcome!

Thanks and Regards,
Jan Christian Anker


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Re: [css-d] SOURCE (HTML + CSS) VALIDATES / FF 2.0.0.10 11 BEHAVES STRANGE

2007-12-01 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh 

On Dec 1, 2007, at 11:56 PM, Jan Christian Anker wrote:

  http://www.putti.no

 Now, clean cache, cookies, etc and open the page in
 FF 2.0.0.10 or FF 2.0.0.11.  You will notice that
 the menu is not displaying properly (main menu line
 above display area, only partly visible).
Happens, yes. But cookies have nothing to do with the issue. Cookies  
are just bad of the teeth.

 Now, do a refresh, and the menu is back in place, but
 still with problems.

I don't see any problems when compared to Safari, Gecko nightly build  
and Opera.
OS X 10.4.11.

 My conclusion is that (this time) it is not my fault,
 but a bug in FireFox, since the page display completely
 different after the first refresh.

Not really your fault, no.

 I would also be most happy if somebody could test the
 page in FF 2.0.0.9; I believe that the behavior is
 OK there.

I strongly doubt it would be better in Fx 2.0.0.9.

The reason: your image (PPP-logo_skrift613x150.gif) has no dimensions  
specified.
Give it width and height in the html or the stylesheet, and the  
problem will be gone.
Longer: while first fetching the page, the browser doesn't know yet  
the intrinsic size of the image, but places your navigation much  
faster on screen than it fetches the image. If you specify the size  
of the image in the html or stylesheet, the browser doesn't have to  
interpolate it.
Once the image is cached (on reload), the problem vanishes.

Philippe
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