[css-d] firefox display problems - need urgent help
On this site http://www.whsfoundation.org/ when I click around within the site in Firefox often the right and left column are empty because the content drops to the bottom. This didn't happen on my demo sever http://www.liztestsite.com/indexTest.shtml. Any ideas of what I can do? Thanks, Liz __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] firefox display problems - need urgent help
Firefox 2.0.3 here; I don't see the problem you're referring to. Can you point to a specific URL URL where you're seeing the bug? __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] firefox display problems - need urgent help
Liz wrote: On this site http://www.whsfoundation.org/ when I click around within the site in Firefox often the right and left column are empty because the content drops to the bottom. This didn't happen on my demo sever http://www.liztestsite.com/indexTest.shtml. Any ideas of what I can do? Thanks, Liz I couldn't find any problems with FF 2.0.0.3 on Mac. There is a definite re-draw of the left navigation contents, but they stay put. I'm running at 1920x1200 - I don't know if that has anything to do with it or not. Even seems to work with JavaScript disabled. Lori __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] firefox display problems - need urgent help
It is worse on the Mac Firefox but on the pc it happens on http://www.whsfoundation.org/calendar.shtml and http://www.whsfoundation.org/donate.shtml Try clicking back and forth between a few links on the site. It happens more often after coming from another page in the site. My PC Mac Firefox version is 1.5.0.11. When I check for updates it says there are no new ones. Liz On 5/15/07 4:32 PM, Brian Crescimanno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Firefox 2.0.3 here; I don't see the problem you're referring to. Can you point to a specific URL URL where you're seeing the bug? __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] firefox display problems - need urgent help
Please try clicking around from page to page within the site and particularly go to the calendar page and the donation page. It seems to happen more there. On 5/15/07 4:35 PM, Lori Lay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Liz wrote: On this site http://www.whsfoundation.org/ when I click around within the site in Firefox often the right and left column are empty because the content drops to the bottom. This didn't happen on my demo sever http://www.liztestsite.com/indexTest.shtml. Any ideas of what I can do? Thanks, Liz I couldn't find any problems with FF 2.0.0.3 on Mac. There is a definite re-draw of the left navigation contents, but they stay put. I'm running at 1920x1200 - I don't know if that has anything to do with it or not. Even seems to work with JavaScript disabled. Lori __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] firefox display problems - need urgent help
Liz wrote: On this site http://www.whsfoundation.org/ when I click around within the site in Firefox often the right and left column are empty because the content drops to the bottom. This didn't happen on my demo sever http://www.liztestsite.com/indexTest.shtml. Any ideas of what I can do? Thanks, Liz I couldn't find any problems with FF 2.0.0.3 on Mac. There is a definite re-draw of the left navigation contents, but they stay put. I'm running at 1920x1200 - I don't know if that has anything to do with it or not. Even seems to work with JavaScript disabled. Lori I'm running WinXP/SP2 and FF2.0.0.3 at 1024 x 768 on a 17 monitor. Similar to what Lori said, there is a lag when the left column draws, but otherwise, everything stays put...until one bump up in font size causes the last nav item to drop down one line, which shoves the whole content off the right side of the page. This even happens if I increase the view port to 1280 x 1024. Reducing the font size does not break the layout. The drop down menu rendering seems a tag slow. Also, the Publication links open .pdf's without warning and both the Publication and Links links unexpectedly open a new window. IMO (only) the former is simply annoying, the latter is bad behavior. Regardless, my initial impression of the site when first opened is that it is visually pleasing and well laid out. Cheers, Peter www.fatpawdesign.com __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] firefox display problems - need urgent help
From: Liz Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 6:41 PM Please try clicking around from page to page within the site and particularly go to the calendar page and the donation page. It seems to happen more there. On 5/15/07 4:35 PM, Lori Lay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Liz wrote: On this site http://www.whsfoundation.org/ when I click around within the site in Firefox often the right and left column are empty because the content drops to the bottom. This didn't happen on my demo sever http://www.liztestsite.com/indexTest.shtml. Any ideas of what I can do? Thanks, Liz I couldn't find any problems with FF 2.0.0.3 on Mac. There is a definite re-draw of the left navigation contents, but they stay put. I'm running at 1920x1200 - I don't know if that has anything to do with it or not. Even seems to work with JavaScript disabled. Liz, Just so you don't think you're going crazy -- I did see this the very first time I loaded the page, but have not been able to make it happen since (left column was not empty, but was below all text in calendar table - http://www.whsfoundation.org/calendar.shtml). FireFox 1.5.0.11 --G __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] firefox display problems - need urgent help
Liz wrote: It is worse on the Mac Firefox but on the pc it happens on http://www.whsfoundation.org/calendar.shtml and http://www.whsfoundation.org/donate.shtml Try clicking back and forth between a few links on the site. It happens more often after coming from another page in the site. My PC Mac Firefox version is 1.5.0.11. When I check for updates it says there are no new ones. Liz On 5/15/07 4:32 PM, Brian Crescimanno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Firefox 2.0.3 here; I don't see the problem you're referring to. Can you point to a specific URL URL where you're seeing the bug? Confirmed under FF 1.5/Win and FF 2.0/Win. Not a problem under FF 2/Mac. You have to go to Mozilla.com to install FF2. It's a major upgrade, so it's not part of the regular updates. FF 1.5 is still being supported. Since it works under the Mac and not under Win, I'd have a closer look at your font sizes. Also, even when it screws up, hitting the refresh button fixes it - as if there is something that it can't quite figure out on the initial load. I'll have a bit more of a look, but you might want to use Firebug to double-check your widths and padding on your divisions, if you haven't done so already. Lori __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] firefox display problems - need urgent help
Lori Lay wrote: Liz wrote: It is worse on the Mac Firefox but on the pc it happens on http://www.whsfoundation.org/calendar.shtml and http://www.whsfoundation.org/donate.shtml Try clicking back and forth between a few links on the site. It happens more often after coming from another page in the site. My PC Mac Firefox version is 1.5.0.11. When I check for updates it says there are no new ones. Liz On 5/15/07 4:32 PM, Brian Crescimanno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Firefox 2.0.3 here; I don't see the problem you're referring to. Can you point to a specific URL URL where you're seeing the bug? Confirmed under FF 1.5/Win and FF 2.0/Win. Not a problem under FF 2/Mac. You have to go to Mozilla.com to install FF2. It's a major upgrade, so it's not part of the regular updates. FF 1.5 is still being supported. Since it works under the Mac and not under Win, I'd have a closer look at your font sizes. Also, even when it screws up, hitting the refresh button fixes it - as if there is something that it can't quite figure out on the initial load. I'll have a bit more of a look, but you might want to use Firebug to double-check your widths and padding on your divisions, if you haven't done so already. Lori Do you need the display: table on the content division? In one of the times that the problem manifested itself, I removed display:table using Firebug from the content division and it corrected itself. Mind you, Firebug redraws the screen when you change the CSS, so I may be way off base here. However, I didn't see any difference in the layout with display:table removed, so I wonder if you need it. Certainly IE doesn't understand that anyway. Just a thought. Lori __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] firefox display problems - need urgent help
I'm running WinXP/SP2 and FF2.0.0.3 at 1024 x 768 on a 17 monitor. Similar to what Lori said, there is a lag when the left column draws, but otherwise, everything stays put...until one bump up in font size causes the last nav item to drop down one line, which shoves the whole content off the right side of the page. This even happens if I increase the view port to 1280 x 1024. Reducing the font size does not break the layout. The drop down menu rendering seems a tag slow. Also, the Publication links open .pdf's without warning and both the Publication and Links links unexpectedly open a new window. IMO (only) the former is simply annoying, the latter is bad behavior. Regardless, my initial impression of the site when first opened is that it is visually pleasing and well laid out. Cheers, Peter www.fatpawdesign.com Odd, I just downloaded the latest for both browsers and still have same problem on all but home page on both Mac and PC. Strange that this doesn't happen on my test site http://www.liztestsite.com/indexTest.shtml. If it had I would have fixed it before making it live. I wonder if there is something different about the servers. Re the font sizes -- on the left, they are all the same except for the dropdowns which are smaller. Maybe the percentages are not good. I will look in there more closely to see if there is something I messed up with all my experimenting. I will also experiment with the font sizes and Firebug as suggested. Thank you all for your help. Liz Liz __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] firefox display problems - need urgent help
Do you need the display: table on the content division? In one of the times that the problem manifested itself, I removed display:table using Firebug from the content division and it corrected itself. Mind you, Firebug redraws the screen when you change the CSS, so I may be way off base here. However, I didn't see any difference in the layout with display:table removed, so I wonder if you need it. Certainly IE doesn't understand that anyway. Just a thought. Lori I think I needed the display table for either the right column to stay put or maybe it was the background image -- I forget now but will experiment with not using it. Thanks, Liz __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] firefox display problems - need urgent help
I'm running WinXP/SP2 and FF2.0.0.3 at 1024 x 768 on a 17 monitor. Similar to what Lori said, there is a lag when the left column draws, but otherwise, everything stays put...until one bump up in font size causes the last nav item to drop down one line, which shoves the whole content off the right side of the page. This even happens if I increase the view port to 1280 x 1024. Reducing the font size does not break the layout. The drop down menu rendering seems a tag slow. Also, the Publication links open .pdf's without warning and both the Publication and Links links unexpectedly open a new window. IMO (only) the former is simply annoying, the latter is bad behavior. Regardless, my initial impression of the site when first opened is that it is visually pleasing and well laid out. Cheers, Peter www.fatpawdesign.com Odd, I just downloaded the latest for both browsers and still have same problem on all but home page on both Mac and PC. Strange that this doesn't happen on my test site http://www.liztestsite.com/indexTest.shtml. If it had I would have fixed it before making it live. I wonder if there is something different about the servers. Re the font sizes -- on the left, they are all the same except for the dropdowns which are smaller. Maybe the percentages are not good. I will look in there more closely to see if there is something I messed up with all my experimenting. I will also experiment with the font sizes and Firebug as suggested. Thank you all for your help. Liz Liz: I changed the font sizes using the FF text-size tool. See http://www.fatpawdesign.com/textresize.jpg Maybe obvious, but maybe not. So this is a client-side (tex) styling technique you'll have to accomodate (or not). I haven't looked at the html or style sheet, but probably more important than the actual font size is how the site degrades when they are changed. If the site changes form gracefully, the font size may not be so important. Good Luck, Peter __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] firefox display problems - need urgent help
Do you need the display: table on the content division? In one of the times that the problem manifested itself, I removed display:table using Firebug from the content division and it corrected itself. Mind you, Firebug redraws the screen when you change the CSS, so I may be way off base here. However, I didn't see any difference in the layout with display:table removed, so I wonder if you need it. Certainly IE doesn't understand that anyway. Just a thought. Lori Lori, Thank you so much for your suggestion, that fixed it! I had display table on both the content and page styles. When I took it off of both it fixed the problem. I never would have thought of that. Styling with CSS is still mostly a mystery to me but thanks to the help of the list I'm slowly figuring it out. Thank you others who helped also -- I will also take a closer look at my font sizes. Liz __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/