Re: [css-d] footer problem

2010-07-22 Thread tomo jacobson
thanks a lot for the tips!

i didn't really do what u wrote, but it helped me to find my own old
school way of doing it with tables. i know, i know, but it works and
that was the only way of doing this i found, which answered all my
requests.

please take a look and say if it's too terrible:
http://www.tomojacobson.art.pl/strona/pro-cov.htm
http://www.tomojacobson.art.pl/strona/style.css

thanks

Tomo



On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 2:17 AM, David Laakso
da...@chelseacreekstudio.com wrote:
 tomo jacobson wrote:

 hi everybody

 i made a footer:







 That's nice. I have a red pencil box: and, like most folks on this -- or any
 other list -- a limited amount of time...



 and it works: http://www.tomojacobson.art.pl/strona/things.htm






 1/ In what operating system [s] / browser [s] does it work as you intend?
 2/ In what operating system [s] / browser [s] does it /not/ work as you
 intend.






 Tomo





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Re: [css-d] footer problem

2010-07-22 Thread David Laakso
tomo jacobson wrote:
 i didn't really do what u wrote, but it helped me to find my own old
 school way of doing it with tables. i know, i know, but it works and
 that was the only way of doing this i found, which answered all my
 requests.

 please take a look and say if it's too terrible:
 http://www.tomojacobson.art.pl/strona/pro-cov.htm
 http://www.tomojacobson.art.pl/strona/style.css

 thanks
 
 Tomo


   





Tomo,

Looks fine to me on a quick look in Camino, Safari, FF, Chrome, Opera, 
IE/8, and IE/7. IE/6 does not support position;fixed; consequently the 
whole page scrolls: nevertheless, all the content is present and the 
page is functional and usable in that browser. So, I'd say you are good 
to go.

Couple of minor validation errors in the markup file that you may want 
to collect...

Fwiw, adding Georgia as the first-font in the string will make the text 
a little easier to read; as will deleting text-align: justify.

Best,
~d












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[css-d] footer problem

2010-07-21 Thread tomo jacobson
hi everybody

i made a footer:

div id=footer
div id=bottom-image align=center
table
tr
td
a href=news.htmimg 
src=images/news-bottom.gif height=37
alt= //a
/td
td
a href=music.htmimg 
src=images/music-bottom.gif height=37
alt= //a
/td
td
a href=things.htmimg 
src=images/things-bottom.gif
height=37 alt= //a
/td
td
i id=whata href=about.htmimg 
src=images/what.gif
height=37 alt= //a/i
/td
/tr
/table
/div
/div

with css:

/* footer
---
*/

#footer {
position: fixed;
bottom: 0;
left: 0;
width: 100%;
height: 55px;
background: url(images/tlo-bottom.jpg) repeat-x left bottom;
}

#bottom-image {
padding-top: 10px;
}

#what {
position: absolute;
right: 10px;
bottom: 2px;
}

and it works: http://www.tomojacobson.art.pl/strona/things.htm

BUT...
what i wanted to achieve is that the NEWS, MUSIC and THINGS in the
footer are exactly in the middle, and the QUESTION MARK is on the
right. what i did with the code does the trick, but absolute position
of the QUESTION MARK causes problem when u resize the browser window
to a small one. then QUESTION MARK goes over the THINGS.
i would like it to be in the same table so if u resize it to a small
one then u just can't see them all and u have to scroll left or right
(just as it is with NEWS, MUSIC and THINGS when u resize the window to
a small one), and they don't come over each other. and in the same
time, so NEWS, MUSIC and THINGS exactly in the middle of the footer,
and the QUESTION MARK is on the right.
how to do it?? any ideas?

thanks

Tomo
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Re: [css-d] footer problem

2010-07-21 Thread David Laakso
tomo jacobson wrote:
 hi everybody

 i made a footer:


   




That's nice. I have a red pencil box: and, like most folks on this -- or 
any other list -- a limited amount of time...



 and it works: http://www.tomojacobson.art.pl/strona/things.htm
   





1/ In what operating system [s] / browser [s] does it work as you intend?
2/ In what operating system [s] / browser [s] does it /not/ work as you 
intend.






 Tomo

   



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Re: [css-d] Footer-problem

2009-01-22 Thread Ib Jensen
2009/1/22 Gunlaug Sørtun gunla...@c2i.net:
 Ib Jensen wrote:

 Link : http://ikjensen.dk/test/common/blank.html

 The auto-expansion bug in IE6 and older.

 Well, then I hope that I somehow can get FF to look like IE in this
 situation. Because IE is showing the Footer as I want it to look.

 The difference is that good browsers will auto-expand the footer
 because they're told to do so, and not because they're buggy.


Considering that FF, belongs to the better part of the browsers,
I've would have expected that FF had shown it more correctly than IE
in this case.

But, I'm still learning something new about browser behaviors every day.

Thanks for your hints and solution



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Re: [css-d] Footer-problem

2009-01-22 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun

Ib Jensen wrote:

Considering that FF, belongs to the better part of the browsers, 
I've would have expected that FF had shown it more correctly than IE 
in this case.


It does!
You have 'height : 100px;' on your footer, and all browsers but IE6 and
older honor that height - which is too short for the footer's content.
The result is correct and looks interesting, but wasn't quite what you
wanted, it seems.

IE6 (and older IE/win versions) however does *not* honor declared
dimensions if/when the content is too large, and the buggy result just
happens to suit you better.

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Re: [css-d] Footer-problem

2009-01-22 Thread Bobby Jack
--- On Thu, 1/22/09, Ib Jensen ibkjen...@gmail.com wrote:

 Considering that FF, belongs to the better part
 of the browsers,
 I've would have expected that FF had shown it more
 correctly than IE
 in this case.

Ib, as pointed out in my earlier response to your post, Firefox (and all the 
other more standards-compliant browsers) *ARE* displaying that correctly - 
they're honouring the spec. Just because it looks like you want it to, doesn't 
mean that the display is correct. If you wrote a web page containing nothing 
but hello, world and IE displayed a 3-dimensional view of the Sistine Chapel, 
that wouldn't be correct behaviour, even if it were beautiful and exactly what 
you wanted! :)

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Re: [css-d] Footer-problem

2009-01-22 Thread Ib Jensen
2009/1/22 Bobby Jack and Gunlaug:

 --- On Thu, 1/22/09, Ib Jensen ibkjen...@gmail.com wrote:

It does!
You have 'height : 100px;' on your footer, and all browsers but IE6 and
older honor that height - which is too short for the footer's content.
The result is correct and looks interesting, but wasn't quite what you
wanted, it seems

Your correct, I'm wrong :[

I've set a heigth that was to low for the content in the footer, thats
clear for me now, after thinking about what the pictures shows.


If you wrote a web page containing nothing but hello, world and IE displayed 
a 3-dimensional view of the Sistine Chapel,
that wouldn't be correct behaviour, even if it were beautiful and exactly what 
you wanted! :)

This could be a very interesting thing to a competition about writing
something, and get it to look like something else.


But off course your right, behaviour and what I want is two different
things. But sometimes I whish they were the same.


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[css-d] Footer-problem

2009-01-21 Thread Ib Jensen
Link : http://ikjensen.dk/test/common/blank.html

The page in FF
http://ikjensen.dk/test/wsimage/ff.jpg

The page in IE
http://ikjensen.dk/test/wsimage/ie.jpg

Whats going on here ???

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Re: [css-d] Footer-problem

2009-01-21 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun

Ib Jensen wrote:

Link : http://ikjensen.dk/test/common/blank.html

The page in FF http://ikjensen.dk/test/wsimage/ff.jpg

The page in IE http://ikjensen.dk/test/wsimage/ie.jpg

Whats going on here ???


The auto-expansion bug in IE6 and older. IE6 doesn't respect declared
dimensions, and treats all elements as if they were expandable table-cells.

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Re: [css-d] Footer-problem

2009-01-21 Thread Ib Jensen
2009/1/21 Gunlaug Sørtun gunla...@c2i.net:
 Ib Jensen wrote:

 Link : http://ikjensen.dk/test/common/blank.html

 The page in FF http://ikjensen.dk/test/wsimage/ff.jpg

 The page in IE http://ikjensen.dk/test/wsimage/ie.jpg

 Whats going on here ???

 The auto-expansion bug in IE6 and older. IE6 doesn't respect declared
 dimensions, and treats all elements as if they were expandable table-cells.


Well, then I hope that I somehow can get FF to look like IE in this
situation. Because IE is showing the Footer as I want it to look.

Or, should I think in a different direction, and get it to look like
FF, with some height-declarations ?



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Re: [css-d] Footer-problem

2009-01-21 Thread Bobby Jack
 Ib Jensen wrote:

 Well, then I hope that I somehow can get FF to look like IE
 in this
 situation. Because IE is showing the Footer as I want it to
 look.

A classic problem: due to IE's bugs, it displays the page incorrectly, but as 
required. It's only natural to blame the non-IE browsers in this kind of 
situation, but developing for one of those browsers first is a generally 
recommended approach.

In this specific case, your problem is that the container #sidefod doesn't 
expand to contain its children (.split_right and .split_left) because they are 
floated. If you're ever curious as to WHY this behaviour is ingrained in CSS, 
check out [1]).

There are various methods of clearing the floats, some of which involve extra 
(non-semantic) markup, some additional CSS. Try searching the web for 
self-clearing floats for example. One quick and easy solution is to add 
'overflow: auto' to #sidefod, but please read up about some of the alternatives 
first, because there are various side-effects of each method, and you'll want 
to use the right one.

[1] http://www.fiveminuteargument.com/float-container

- Bobby


  
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Re: [css-d] Footer-problem

2009-01-21 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun

Ib Jensen wrote:

Link : http://ikjensen.dk/test/common/blank.html



The auto-expansion bug in IE6 and older.


Well, then I hope that I somehow can get FF to look like IE in this 
situation. Because IE is showing the Footer as I want it to look.


Replace your footer-styles with the following - verbatim...

div#sidefod {padding:0.5em 1em;border-top:5px solid #191970; overflow:
hidden;}
* html div#sidefod {overflow: visible; height: 1%;}

...and all browsers will follow IE6' lead and auto-expand :-)

The difference is that good browsers will auto-expand the footer
because they're told to do so, and not because they're buggy.

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[css-d] footer problem MB

2008-03-03 Thread Mauro Bertani
 Hi, I'm Mauro
I 've read the article:
http://www.themaninblue.com/writing/perspective/2005/08/29/
Then I try to center the preceding layout. In IE 6.x it goes well.This page
couses problem in FF 2.0.0.12 . The footer go down the screen even if
positioning at the bottom of the screen so the browser activate the scroll
function. This is that I avoid to do.
The page is:
http://bertanimauro.helloweb.eu/cssprova/index.html
the css is:
http://bertanimauro.helloweb.eu/cssprova/css.css
Thanks
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[css-d] footer problem

2008-02-28 Thread Mauro Bertani
Hi, I'm Mauro
I 've read the article:
http://www.themaninblue.com/writing/perspective/2005/08/29/
Then I try to center the preceding layout. This couses problem in FF
2.0.0.12 . The footer go down the screen; it's not at the bottom of the
screen avoiding the scroll
The page is
http://bertanimauro.helloweb.eu/cssprova/index.html
the css is
http://bertanimauro.helloweb.eu/cssprova/css.css
Thanks
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Re: [css-d] Footer problem with 3 col layout

2006-12-24 Thread Diane Ross
On 12/22/06 5:14 PM, ~davidLaakso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I don't know what the footer solution is with that particular layout. If
 you are not far along, and can, or are willing to switch layouts, the 3
 column layout on this page
 http://alistapart.com/articles/negativemargins includes a footer
 across the entire bottom, and the tutorial explains the use of images to
 create faux columns for it.

It took a bit, but I started over with the layout you recommended. I have it
working correctly. I seems to be a simple thing to take a layout and modify
it, but I sure do find ways to mess things up in the process.  :-)

I have only tested in Mac browsers so no telling what will break in IE.

I appreciate your suggestion.

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Re: [css-d] Footer problem with 3 col layout

2006-12-24 Thread ~davidLaakso
Diane Ross wrote:
 On 12/22/06 5:14 PM, ~davidLaakso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   
 
[trimmed]

re:
http://alistapart.com/articles/negativemargins

 It took a bit, but I started over with the layout you recommended. I have it
 working correctly. I seems to be a simple thing to take a layout and modify
 it, but I sure do find ways to mess things up in the process.  :-)
   
You find ways to mess things up... hmm-- I specialize in messing stuff 
up :-) .
 I have only tested in Mac browsers so no telling what will break in IE.
   
Post a clickable link to it (to the list) with IE in the subject line.  
It is a good idea to code to compliant browsers. A better idea may be to 
make sure it is not upside down and backward in IE6 and 7 as you go 
along :-) .
 I appreciate your suggestion.

   
Best,
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Re: [css-d] Footer problem with 3 col layout

2006-12-24 Thread francky
Diane Ross wrote:

[...]
I have only tested in Mac browsers so no telling what will break in IE.
[...]

  

Hi Diane,
IE6 on Win98SE is doing fine here. Browsershots says IE5.0 and IE6 on 
WinXP too (other IE's not available over there at this moment; often 
IE5.5 and IE7 can be tested there as well).

* Browsershots result
  http://browsershots.org/screenshots/c74f8a81729ad2ce3ee4f2be56bbcfe3/

Good days,
francky

btw: some hints of the html-validator 
http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.test.entourage.mvps.org%2Fpages%2Fpage1h.html
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[css-d] Footer problem with 3 col layout

2006-12-22 Thread Diane Ross
Happy Holidays to everyone.

I'm trying to convert my volunteer site from tables to CSS. I used the
example on http://www.positioniseverything.net/guests/3colcomplexside.html
for my base. The footer for the layout was in the container div, but I want
mine to go across the bottom. I added a clear div that I thought was going
to push it down, but it's not working. I'm a newbie and appreciate any help
you can offer so I can get to the real work of updating the content. GoLive
has mangled the code with extraneous divs. They have multiplied like
bunnies.  :-)  

Not sure if this is part of the same positioning question, but I need all
the columns to be of equal height. I just don't know enough to understand
where the problem is located.

I tried putting the cleardiv2 before and after contents, but the results
were the same.

You can view page (obviously rough) here:

http://www.test.entourage.mvps.org/

--
div id=cleardiv2/div
/div!--this is the end of container--

div id=footer
   footer info goes here
/div
div id=bottom/div
/body


CSS
 #cleardiv2
 {
 clear: both;
 height: 1em;
 }

/**Begin Footer**/
div#footer {
border-top: 2px solid #5C73BA;
text-align: center;
}

Great listI'm learning a lot.

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Re: [css-d] Footer problem with 3 col layout

2006-12-22 Thread ~davidLaakso
Diane Ross wrote:
 I'm trying to convert my volunteer site from tables to CSS. I used the
 example on http://www.positioniseverything.net/guests/3colcomplexside.html
 for my base. The footer for the layout was in the container div, but I want
 mine to go across the bottom trimmed]. 

 Not sure if this is part of the same positioning question, but I need all
 the columns to be of equal height. I just don't know enough to understand
 where the problem is locatedtrimmed]


 http://www.test.entourage.mvps.org/

   
I don't know what the footer solution is with that particular layout. If 
you are not far along, and can, or are willing to switch layouts, the 3 
column layout on this page 
http://alistapart.com/articles/negativemargins includes a footer 
across the entire bottom, and the tutorial explains the use of images to 
create faux columns for it. It is similar to (but a little different) 
than what you are using. If you prefer a fixed width, or min/max width 
layout, wrap the whole ball of wax within a containing division with an 
appropriate width assigned to it. This navbar 
http://css.maxdesign.com.au/listamatic/horizontal16.htm is 
cross-browser reliable, too-- and will work well with the negative 
margin layout: http://css.maxdesign.com.au/listamatic/horizontal16.htm.
Best,
~dL

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[css-d] Footer problem in IE

2006-10-23 Thread Lyn Williams
For some reason the footer to this web page ( www.ewp-ltd.co.uk
http://www.ewp-ltd.co.uk/  ) doesn't centre correctly within Internet
Explorer but works fine with Firefox. Does anyone have a solution? 

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Re: [css-d] Footer problem in IE

2006-10-23 Thread Ian Young

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 Subject: [css-d] Footer problem in IE
 
 
 For some reason the footer to this web page ( www.ewp-ltd.co.uk
 http://www.ewp-ltd.co.uk/  ) doesn't centre correctly within Internet
 Explorer but works fine with Firefox. Does anyone have a solution? 
 

IE doesn't recognise margin-left:auto;margin:right:auto.

to centre a div, try using percentages:

eg footer {width:90%;margin:0 5% 0%}

Ian


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[css-d] footer problem-please help!

2006-01-05 Thread videoscott1
http://videointegrations.com/serenity/procedure_relax_pleasure.html


The Horizontal scroll bar only in IE6 is apparently caused by the footer. I 
can't figure out how to get rid of it without causing the problems I resolved 
in using the css for this particular footer. Compared to anything in the wiki, 
I think this footer is best, with exception to this problem. I'd love for 
someone to give me a better footer but seeing all the others comments I don't 
believe there's better then this. PROVE ME WRONG PLEASE!
http://videointegrations.com/serenity/layout.css
Look at the bottom for #footer

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Thanks,
scott




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[css-d] Footer Problem

2005-05-19 Thread Matt Powell
Hello!

Having a bit of a problem with sticking my footer to the bottom of the page,
as per the article at http://www.alistapart.com/articles/footers/

The site I¹m working on can be found at http://www.elnetwork.org.uk and the
CSS is at http://www.elnetwork.org.uk/styles.css ­ there¹s also some
javascript involved so I¹m not sure if this is off topic or not. Please let
me know if it is! 

Whilst the footer is positioned correctly when content overflows the size of
the viewport, when there isn¹t enough content the footer is positioned below
the bottom of the window, and you have to scroll down to see it. I¹m a bit
stumped as to why, so turning to y¹all for help.

Cheers
Matt
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