Re: [css-d] Customisable scrollbars with css
[snip] Is there anyway to customize scrollbars using css so that they don't default to the basic crappy windows grey ones? I know tis not a big thing as I generally tend to stay away from having to make users scroll as much as possible, but in some cases it can't be avoided, so if one was to go about it how would it be done, and that is only if it indeed can be done. [/snip] Google turned up a truckload http://www.google.com/search?hl=enlr=q=css+scrollbars __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Customisable scrollbars with css
This is not a problem I am having but just a question that I have had for a while and just decided to ask the people in the know (,) heehee Is there anyway to customize scrollbars using css so that they don't default to the basic crappy windows grey ones? I know tis not a big thing as I generally tend to stay away from having to make users scroll as much as possible, but in some cases it can't be avoided, so if one was to go about it how would it be done, and that is only if it indeed can be done. No, you can colour them in Opera and MSIE, with non-standard CSS selectors[1] but you won't be able to change their look completely and cross browser. For example Safari will always show the same ones. Also notice that what is ugly and grey for you is familiar to users, whereas an own slider control or style might be confusing at first. We make a lot of decisions about web sites subconsciously and when I need to find an interactive element first I feel uneasy - no matter how versed you are in the web. That said, if there is no way out you can use JavaScript to simulate your own scrollbars with the YUI slider control [2], but in most cases it is not worth the hassle IMHO. [1] http://www.yourhtmlsource.com/stylesheets/scrollbars.html [2] http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/slider/ -- Chris Heilmann Book: http://www.beginningjavascript.com Blog: http://www.wait-till-i.com Writing: http://icant.co.uk/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Customisable scrollbars with css
Is there anyway to customize scrollbars using css so that they don't default to the basic crappy windows grey ones? I know tis not a big thing as I generally tend to stay away from having to make users scroll as much as possible, but in some cases it can't be avoided, so if one was to go about it how would it be done, and that is only if it indeed can be done. Google turned up a truckload http://www.google.com/search?hl=enlr=q=css+scrollbars And wouldn't it be more helpful if we explained a bit about them? :-) -- Chris Heilmann Book: http://www.beginningjavascript.com Blog: http://www.wait-till-i.com Writing: http://icant.co.uk/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Customisable scrollbars with css
David, on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 at 14:10 David O'Neill wrote: Is there anyway to customize scrollbars using css so that they don't default to the basic crappy windows grey ones? I know tis not a big thing as I generally tend to stay away from having to make users scroll as much as possible, but in some cases it can't be avoided, so if one was to go about it how would it be done, and that is only if it indeed can be done. 1.) You could in IE = 5.5: scrollbar-arrow-color: #00; scrollbar-3dlight-color: #C0C0C0; scrollbar-highlight-color: #E0E0E0; scrollbar-face-color: #C0C0C0; scrollbar-shadow-color: #808080; scrollbar-darkshadow-color: #00; scrollbar-track-color: #E0E0E0 2.) You shouldn't do that. Just some questions: How do you know that the scrollbars are the basic crappy windows grey ones? Mine are brown and I'm on windows... How do you manage it, to stay away from having to make the users scroll? You can't control the screen settings of the user! What if the user uses a 800x600 screen with sidebar enabled or window not maximised? What if he set the browser to minimum font-size 20px? Don't try to bring things under your control that aren't yours! Design for flexibility! You've got to face the fact that web is not print. There are several things that you can't know. And you should try to make your design as flexible as possible to deal with these circumstances. Just my 2c. regards Martin __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Customisable scrollbars with css
David O'Neill wrote: Is there anyway to customize scrollbars using css so that they don't default to the basic crappy windows grey ones? David Now I lay myself to sleep. A dirty gray scrollbar at my feet. I pray the Lord when I awake, this decision to change it I shall not make. ~dL PS Don't mess with the users machine :-) . -- http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/ccs/pow/pow.html __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Customisable scrollbars with css
David O'Neill wrote: Is there anyway to customize scrollbars using css so that they don't default to the basic crappy windows grey ones? David 1. Buy all your website visitors a copy of Windows XP. 2. Visit all of their houses and kindly ask to modify their computer's settings. 3. Right-click on their desktop. 4. Choose Properties from the pop-up menu. 5. Select the 4th tab on the top: Appearance 6. Use the second select box. You have 3 options: Blue, Olive Green, Silver. 7. Click OK. Hope it helps. -- -- Christian Montoya christianmontoya.com ... portfolio.christianmontoya.com __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Customisable scrollbars with css
On 7/25/06, David O'Neill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there anyway to customize scrollbars using css so that they don't default to the basic crappy windows grey ones? i kind of like my ugly grey ones. :) now, those ugly xp-style ones on the other hand... :] ew. lol. windows classic style forever! but alas, to keep on topic, i do know firefox won't support custom coloring of the scrollbars. opera i'm not sure about, but they have their own scrollbar styling that gives that nasty yellow color every time you even think about moving the mouse anywhere near it. [sent with humor] __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/