Re: [css-d] Trying to find the best webdesign software
I too use Homesite/Top Style pro and check in firefox as I code. Sporadically I check everything is fine in Opera/Safari and then tidy up IE with conditional commented stylesheets. I haven't even opened Dreamweaver or any other WYSIWYG for over a year. James __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Trying to find the best webdesign software
Hey Ed Thanks for the reply. I use Dreamweaver mostly as a text editor, but it would be nice to see the finished design as well without having to render it to a browser all the time. Just wanted to know if there was anything that does the page rendering more consistently than Dreamweaver. Dave - Original Message - From: Ed Seehouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: David Van O [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 8:17 AM Subject: Re: [css-d] Trying to find the best webdesign software On 1/12/07, David Van O [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all. I currently use Dreamweaver to design my pages but it seems that support for css is minimal. Basic designs are fine, ... I would like it if I could find something that works better. Is there such a package? I'm sure you all have more experience in a lot of different packages, just want to know what the best might be. Or do you use just text editors? I use Dreamweaver, but as a text editor. I would never rely on it to create good code. The best software for creating web pages is between your ears. -- Ed Seedhouse __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Trying to find the best webdesign software
Afternoon David You wrote Hey all. I currently use Dreamweaver to design my pages but it seems that support for css is minimal. Basic designs are fine, but once I have negative margines and wrappers etc with 2 and 3 columns the page does strange things. My designs look totally different than in the browsers and this makes it frustrating as I have to check the browser too often. I would like it if I could find something that works better. Is there such a package? I'm sure you all have more experience in a lot of different packages, just want to know what the best might be. Or do you use just text editors? Just trying to determine the best method so I can move on. Thanks for your input David You're likely to get as many different responses to this question as there are members on the list. Personally, I hand code in Word Pad and review early and often in Firefox and IE6 / 7 to keep this sort of on topic, I hand code my CSS the same way The *Best* method is the one that works for you.. You might get better responses on other lists like Webdesign-L. You can find it links to them in the WIKI on the off-topic page [1] Best to you and yours [1] http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=OffTopic Jim Nannery www.redfernenterprises.com __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Trying to find the best webdesign software
I'm not too picky -- I use whatever code editor happens to be available, which is currently Adobe GoLive, since it was packaged with Adobe CS2. The code view is nice, and the preview pane is pretty good and better than Dreamweaver's, I think. It's still important to test often in multiple browsers, of course. I've never tried to build a page in GoLive's WYSIWYG mode, so I can't really say how well that would work. I've been playing around with the trial version of Microsoft's Expression Web, and so far I'm impressed. Support for CSS seems to be very good, much better than any other WYSIWYG I've used. I think it's definitely worth serious consideration, especially for those who need a little extra help with their CSS coding. cheers, Marcello David Van O [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all. I currently use Dreamweaver to design my pages but it seems that support for css is minimal. Basic designs are fine, but once I have negative margines and wrappers etc with 2 and 3 columns the page does strange things. My designs look totally different than in the browsers and this makes it frustrating as I have to check the browser too often. I would like it if I could find something that works better. Is there such a package? I'm sure you all have more experience in a lot of different packages, just want to know what the best might be. Or do you use just text editors? Just trying to determine the best method so I can move on. Thanks for your input David __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Trying to find the best webdesign software
The fundamental problem (for me) with editors that offer WYSIWYG views - visitors don't browse websites using web editors. They use browsers. And it is so easy to have a page open in multiple browsers, toggle between them, and reload the page. I don't care what a WYSIWY-really-aren't-going-to-get editor thinks a page looks like. Marcello Mastroianni wrote: I'm not too picky -- I use whatever code editor happens to be available, which is currently Adobe GoLive, since it was packaged with Adobe CS2. The code view is nice, and the preview pane is pretty good and better than Dreamweaver's, I think. It's still important to test often in multiple browsers, of course. I've never tried to build a page in GoLive's WYSIWYG mode, so I can't really say how well that would work. I've been playing around with the trial version of Microsoft's Expression Web, and so far I'm impressed. Support for CSS seems to be very good, much better than any other WYSIWYG I've used. I think it's definitely worth serious consideration, especially for those who need a little extra help with their CSS coding. cheers, Marcello David Van O [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all. I currently use Dreamweaver to design my pages but it seems that support for css is minimal. Basic designs are fine, but once I have negative margines and wrappers etc with 2 and 3 columns the page does strange things. My designs look totally different than in the browsers and this makes it frustrating as I have to check the browser too often. I would like it if I could find something that works better. Is there such a package? I'm sure you all have more experience in a lot of different packages, just want to know what the best might be. Or do you use just text editors? Just trying to determine the best method so I can move on. -- David [EMAIL PROTECTED] authenticity, honesty, community __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Trying to find the best webdesign software
My text editor is HomeSite and it uses Internet Explorer as it's internal browser. I use it to get a rough idea of where I'm at and periodically view in FireFox to make sure IE isn't screwing things up. If something gets screwy I open it in FF to see if it's REALLY behaving or not. Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of david Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 4:34 PM To: css-d Subject: Re: [css-d] Trying to find the best webdesign software The fundamental problem (for me) with editors that offer WYSIWYG views - visitors don't browse websites using web editors. They use browsers. And it is so easy to have a page open in multiple browsers, toggle between them, and reload the page. I don't care what a WYSIWY-really-aren't-going-to-get editor thinks a page looks like. Marcello Mastroianni wrote: __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Trying to find the best webdesign software
Hi David I haven't found a single suite I like. I use a combination of HomeSite for html and TopStyle Pro for css, use Apache for local serving/browsing with a range of browsers on a couple of machines, lets me see how stuff like my php renders. Best Wayne __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
