Re: [css-d] clear:float is causing layout problem

2005-06-28 Thread Gary Turner

Matt Tibbits wrote:

This problem only happens in Firefox. It seems to work fine in Explorer.

 


Basically, I have a 2 column layout with the left column being a float.

 


In the right column, I am using floats on various elements, such as images.

If I don't do a clear:both after my images, everything gets messy in
explorer. 

 


When I do the clear:both everything after the clearing element gets dropped
down below the bottom of the left menu.

 


You can see this in action here:
http://www.nbeastersealmarchofdimes.ca/esmod.new/forms.php


Give this a try:

ul.formpage li {
float: left;
width: 51%;
_width: 100%;
}

#content ul.formpage br {}

cheers,

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Re: [css-d] column wont move to left

2005-06-28 Thread Erland Flaten



I want the first column - the one at left with the navigation  
buttons - to start at det very beginning of the left side of the  
browser. Cant manage that to happen. The CSS is from one of Douglas  
Livingstones fine ones. I dont understand this column model very  
well but still I use them and try to learn some. I hav a feeling  
that this is good model :)

thanks for any help.




and I forgot URL. I am sorry and thanks to Dwan Alford who mailed me  
about that.


http://www.kariutgaard.no/
and the stylesheet
http://www.kariutgaard.no/3sp_likhoyde.css


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Re: [css-d] IE white-space: normal

2005-06-28 Thread Ingo Chao

Rob Agar schrieb:

Sorry I forgot to mention an important detail - this problem only
appears in IE6 quirks mode. ...
here's a copy of Ingo's test case but without the doctype, so it falls
back to quirks mode http://www.wildlime.com/rob/test2.html . (works as
expected in IE6)

here's a test case showing the problem with nested lists:
http://www.wildlime.com/rob/list_css_line_wrapping.html


Looks like as if quirkyIE6 tries to emulate the white space bug in 
IE5.5, and fails on the link I posted. Thanks for your minimal testcase. 
I did not found a workaround yet, maybe it's just hardwired.


Ingo
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Re: [css-d] Another try: Tables and 100% height

2005-06-28 Thread Niek Emmen | Sebastian Webprojecten
Hi there,

Last week I posted a question, but nobody gave an answer. I don't know why (I 
surtenly do not have a bad breath), 


 maybe not, but 140 errors generated in validating your html has the
 same effect.  Even the css validator wouldn't come near it.
 grin
 I would first rule out bad code as a problem through different
 browser interpretations of what you want. Added value to this is that
 it almost always gets rid of the stupid errors and more people are
 willing to look.
 
 valid css and strict
 the Listerine for web pages
 Don't make a stupid first impression.

Well, aren't You the one and only God of CSS, if You even bothered to look at 
the 140 errors reported by the validator You would have noticed that the URL's 
containing index.php?b=3d=8p=0 aren't correct. I know that: I'm not stupid 
(as you mentioned), Dreamweaver replaces amp; with the  and I didn't bother 
to change that because it was just an example.

I changed the links in http://www.sebastian.nl/vivium/empty.htm: not one error! 
So it is valid XHTML 1.0 transitional, the way I learned it by reading books 
from Zeldman and Meyer.

So, before calling people stupid: isn't this a place where we discuss CSS (not 
html, xhtml or xml) and help people with less knowledge about this issue?


Niek Emmen

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RES: [css-d] Floating IE problem

2005-06-28 Thread Gustavo Caetano
Can anyone please help me in that one?

I can't figure out how to put it working in IE.


Gustavo Caetano
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 Assunto: RES: [css-d] Floating IE problem
 
 Hello
 
 Thanks to some guys here I've made some progress here. Almost there
 
 www.cacofonia.com.br/07
 
 Now just need to make the green box relative positioned. Any tips?
 
 
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  Assunto: [css-d] Floating IE problem
 
  Can anyone help me with that one?
 
 
 
   http://www.cacofonia.com.br/07/ http://www.cacofonia.com.br/07/
 
 
 
  The green box is ok in Firefox and Opera, but in IE  guess what?
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: [css-d] IE white-space: normal

2005-06-28 Thread Rob Agar
hi Ingo

 I did not found a workaround yet, maybe it's just hardwired.

yes, I think this is just another IE oddity, and probably not worth
spending too much time worrying about.  My none-too-elegant workaround
was to give up on white-space: nowrap and replace the spaces in the top
level items with nbsp; 

Rob

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Re: [css-d] Still problems with Faux columns

2005-06-28 Thread Ingo Chao

Phil Winter schrieb:

... http://www.webdesignpartners.com/perfect_gift/index.html
... When you view it in FF, the repeating gif does not appear.
But, it DOES appear if I put a border around the content_
wrapper div, which I don't want.


I don't have a fix yet, I just wanted to say that the bg-image is 
displayed well in my Fx nightly build (DeerPark) and in my Opera8 copy, 
but not in Fx 1.0.4.


Note: in IE6 XPSP2, the left colum, at the end, shows duplicated 
characters: d., these are the two last characters from the right 
column's advertised. 
http://positioniseverything.net/explorer/dup-characters.html


haven't looked at the code yet.

Ingo


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[css-d] Problem with IntelliTxt and Google ads on the same page. (Firefox)

2005-06-28 Thread Mick
I've got a real problem in Firefox (not in IE) where the Google ads jump 
up when you hover over an IntelliTxt link. This happens when the 
IntelliTxt code init's as well. It only happens when the Google ad 
appears in a floated div.


This isn't limited to Google ads - some other types of ads also jump up, 
and I can't see what's causing it. The page is fine without the 
IntelliTxt links. Here's a full page example:


http://www.ecreate.co.uk/itreviews/product_review.htm

and here's a stripped-down example:

http://www.ecreate.co.uk/itreviews/test.htm

I'm working on this for a client, but this IntelliTxt problem has 
stumped me. Any ideas, anyone?


Thanks,
Mick

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Re: [css-d] Z-index on a popup menu

2005-06-28 Thread Michael Palmer
Fixed the z-index problem.

I found a good tutorial discussing the handling of z-indexes between different 
browsers:

http://www.aplus.co.yu/css/z-pos/

Cheers,

Mike


2005/6/27, Michael Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 To my fellow list readers,
 
 I'm fairly new to the list -- thanks to everyone here, this is a great 
 resource.
 
 My problem centers around a popup list menu created by embedded lists. Using 
 a tutorial from AListApart, I got it working in Firefox and IE6/PC (target 
 browser), except that the z-indexes don't seem to work in IE 6 / PC. The menu 
 seems to popup behind almost everything, even after specifically declaring 
 z-indexes on the offending elements.  Can anyone tell me the reason or 
 suggest a solution for this problem? Any advice would be much appreciated.
 
 URL: http://www.bluetree.com.tw/tahanshop/
 
 Cheers,
 
 Mike
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RE: [css-d] Width Woes Again

2005-06-28 Thread George Smyth
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Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 4:29 PM
To: George Smyth; css-d
Subject: Re: [css-d] Width Woes Again

George Smyth wrote:
 I am putting together a site that can currently be viewed at
 http://sacc-jobfaircom.readyhosting.com/.  As far as Firefox is
 concerned, everything is working just fine.  However, in Internet
 Explorer the three boxes with the images do not fit across.  I thought
 that this might be due to the IE Doubles Float Margin bug, but I added
 display:inline to the div without any change.
 
 Does anyone have an idea as to why the third box is dropping below the
 other two?  If I increase the size of the main div then they fit,
but
 Firefox will show the extra spacing following the third box.
 
 Thanks -
 
 george

first start by validating your html and css.  you've got some errors
there.

hth,
dwain



hth -

I closed the single tag and added alt tags to the images, so things now
validate.

Cheers -

george

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RE: [css-d] padding and cell sizes

2005-06-28 Thread Will Merrell
Eliana Berlfein wrote:
 Here's a link to the site: http://www.itea-school.com
 
 If you look at it on a Mac I'm pretty sure everything looks the way I 
 want it. If you look on a PC it's totally messed up.

Looks fine on Firefox 1.0.4 and IE6 on Win XP.

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Re: [css-d] Window IE flow problem

2005-06-28 Thread saul

Hi Holly,

Thank you for taking the time. I've implemented those suggestions and 
am waiting on a couple of friends with XP machines to tell me if IE 
gets it right.


cheers,

Saul

On Jun 24, 2005, at 6:25 PM, Holly Bergevin wrote:


From: saul [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:  Thu, 23 Jun 2005 09:53:44 -0400


the center content area is not flowing properly in IE Windows
(at least from the screen shots some friends have sent me). It appears
to bump down to below the left column content.



http://www.inventionshow.com/development/layout.html


Hi Saul,

A couple of changes and this will probably work for IE (except the 
li:hover).


First, you have a selector that I'm pretty sure is written incorrectly 
for what you want. -


#sidebarL #img {
margin-left: -5px;
margin-right: -5px;
}

I couldn't find any elements with an ID of img (#img) in your 
#sidebarL element, so I'm thinking what you really wanted was -


#sidebarL img {...}

With that change, you also will need to get rid of the margin-left 
property -


#sidebarL img {margin-right: -5px;}

Then you'll need a new selector to solve IE's problem with dropping 
the content -


#content div img {margin: 0 -3px;}

Finally, at least finally with the browsers I looked at, my (old) 
Opera doesn't like the construction of the very first elements in 
#sidebarL. If you'll put a break element *after* the non-breaking 
space you have between the two images, the appearance in Opera will 
improve significantly.


div id=sidebarL
 a href=#  img [snip]/  /a nb sp; br /  img {snip]/ 
[and the rest of the code - extra spaces are added on purpose so that 
MY email program doesn't attempt to render the HTML]


hth,

~holly





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[css-d] Need a drop down menu to work with css sprites

2005-06-28 Thread David Ross
Hi all,
I've been Googling this morning for samples/ideas/run-ins having to do
with creating a css drop down VERTICAL menu that works with css
sprites. If I can at least find a sample I can figure it out from
there but have not been able to find one. alistapart is down this
morning so can't look there right now.

I'm at work - I built a site that has 4 image sprite rollovers but I
didnt know they needed to be drop downs until just now. They are not
all the same width so not sure if that will be a problem. Shouldnt be.

I dont mind if there is a small amount of javascript but would rather
it be largely css.

Thanks for any help,
David
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[css-d] link list problem in IE_ from yesterday

2005-06-28 Thread Adam Helweh


Hello,

I have nailed down most every other issue but one. In FF all looks fine 
(to me), but in Internet Explorer 6 the links in the right side are 
messed up. When I initially go to the page the links seem fine (white 
with no underline), but as soon as I click they turn gray and 
underlined. This is not a style I use. Can anyone please take a looksy?

Thanks


http://www.rocklinsystems.com/infinity/about.htm


CSS- http://www.rocklinsystems.com/infinity/styles/infinitystyles.css

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Re: RES: [css-d] Floating IE problem

2005-06-28 Thread Gary Turner

Gustavo Caetano wrote:

Can anyone please help me in that one?

I can't figure out how to put it working in IE.


Hello

Thanks to some guys here I've made some progress here. Almost there

www.cacofonia.com.br/07

Now just need to make the green box relative positioned. Any tips?



Hi Gustavo,

I'd like to try, but I'm getting a 404 error.

cheers,

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RE: [css-d] link list problem in IE_ from yesterday

2005-06-28 Thread Pringle, Ron

 in Internet Explorer 6 the links in the right side are 
 messed up. When I initially go to the page the links seem fine (white 
 with no underline), but as soon as I click they turn gray and 
 underlined. This is not a style I use. Can anyone please take 
 a looksy?
 Thanks

Adam-

You need to explicitly define a visited link style for that right column:

#rightcol li a:visited {
color:#FF;
text-decoration: underline;
text-decoration: none;
font-family: Times New Roman, Times, serif;
font-weight: bold;
font-size: 12px;
font-style: normal;
}

The above I just grabbed from your a:link style, so you'll want to change
those values to whatever you want.

I believe the menu is just picking up the visited style from your content
area.

Regards,
Ron
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Re: [css-d] column wont move to left

2005-06-28 Thread Gary Turner

Erland Flaten wrote:



I want the first column - the one at left with the navigation  buttons 
- to start at det very beginning of the left side of the  browser. 
Cant manage that to happen. The CSS is from one of Douglas  
Livingstones fine ones. I dont understand this column model very  well 
but still I use them and try to learn some. I hav a feeling  that this 
is good model :)

thanks for any help.




http://www.kariutgaard.no/
and the stylesheet
http://www.kariutgaard.no/3sp_likhoyde.css


#navlist is abutting the left edge.  It's the ul itself that has left margin.

#navlist ul {
padding: 0;
list-style-type: none;
font-size: 0.9em;
margin: 0em 1em; ---
}

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RE: [css-d] link list problem in IE_ from yesterday

2005-06-28 Thread Peach Lynda L Contr 96 CG/SCTOA
I'm not an expert but several things:
1) the CSS does not validate. Several complaints but the #rightcol li
a:link had text-decoration is defined multiple times in the same rule

2) I found the #rightcol li a:link CSS in the CSS 3 times -- the same code
#rightcol li a:link {
color:#FF;
text-decoration: underline;
text-decoration: none;
font-family: Times New Roman, Times, serif;
font-weight: bold;
font-size: 12px;
font-style: normal;
}

3) And the last time is AFTER the #rightcol li a:hover.  Remember the
LoVeHAte rule:
link visited hover active

Even if you don't use all of those, you should stick to the same entry in
the CSS; i.e., don't put the link after the hover.

L.Peach
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To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
Subject: [css-d] link list problem in IE_ from yesterday


Hello,

I have nailed down most every other issue but one. In FF all looks fine (to
me), but in Internet Explorer 6 the links in the right side are messed up.
When I initially go to the page the links seem fine (white with no
underline), but as soon as I click they turn gray and underlined. This is
not a style I use. Can anyone please take a looksy?
Thanks


http://www.rocklinsystems.com/infinity/about.htm


CSS- http://www.rocklinsystems.com/infinity/styles/infinitystyles.css

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[css-d] stretching a div, disappearing content

2005-06-28 Thread Maren Child
In the page http://www.biotext.com.au/test0205/columns20.html when you 
resize the page, it's okay till it gets to about 400 px wide then the 
content (the stuff in the 'main' div) just disappears in IE 5 and IE6 
windows. I put 'position: relative' in the style for 'main' because 
otherwise the tables are coming out into the side margins in IE6.


In IE6 I have a style for the top navbar that puts a border under it. This 
is in the IE6 conditional comment after the main styles. I'm trying to make 
the border (or in fact the topnavbar div) stretch from 20 pixels in from 
the left of the page to a couple of pixels to the left of the logo. The 
left margin works okay but I can't get it to stretch across and stop where 
I want it to on the right. Is it possible? (I have stopped trying to make 
the border work in Firefox and IE5, as most users of the site are likely to 
be using IE6 and that's the one where the display is more important).


Thanks
Maren
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[css-d] Floating 2 divs side by side that go underneath each other when browser screen shrinks

2005-06-28 Thread stu
Sorry for long title folks.
 
Does anyone know if it is possible to float 2 divs next to each other taking up 
50% of the screen each, until the screen size starts to shrink, then they list 
vertically (like on top of each other). This would happen say when the user 
gets to 800x600 resolution or something.
 
Its a tough one, as far as i can see, because when od you want the divs to flip 
underneath each other instead of being side by side
 
Any ideas appreciated.
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Re: [css-d] Floating 2 divs side by side that go underneath each other when browser screen shrinks

2005-06-28 Thread Dave Kimberley
stu wrote:

 Sorry for long title folks.
  
 Does anyone know if it is possible to float 2 divs next to each other taking 
 up 50% of the screen each, until the screen size starts to shrink, then they 
 list vertically (like on top of each other). This would happen say when the 
 user gets to 800x600 resolution or something.
  
 Its a tough one, as far as i can see, because when od you want the divs to 
 flip underneath each other instead of being side by side
  
 Any ideas appreciated.

In each div use

   min-width: 400px

Regards

Dave

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[css-d] positioning problem in Safari

2005-06-28 Thread Jeanne Prine
Hello to all,

I've run into a positioning problem in Safari 1.0.3
on Mac OS X (10.2.8) that I haven't been able to solve yet without breaking the 
page in other browsers (testing on my mac and my pc plus Browsercam so that's a 
lot of browsers to break).

A page title that's supposed to be located just
above the left navigation is starting at upper
right instead and then continuing in the place where it's supposed to be. 
Apparently it's too long to
ALL fit in the wrong place. ;)

Beware of truncated URLs below due to my mail program
splitting them onto 2 lines.

The page is:
www.rx.uga.edu/main/home/redesign/ce.html

CSS is:
www.rx.uga.edu/main/home/redesign/ce.css

Code in question is:

#pagetitle h1 {
background-color: #e0e0e0;
margin: 0;
padding-left: 4px;
font: bold 16px Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
color: #369;
line-height: 150%;
}

Thanks for any advice!

Regards,
Jeanne


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[css-d] footer fumble in FF part II

2005-06-28 Thread fokuss
Well I got everything else nailed down thanks to a number of very smart 
people here. But my footer seems to be off in FF. I think its fine in 
IE. Can someone peek?


My code validates now as well

http://www.rocklinsystems.com/infinity/communities.htm

Adam
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Re: [css-d] stop text from wrapping around a floated image?

2005-06-28 Thread Philip Wills
 Is there any way to stop text from wrapping ar4ound a floated image?
 
 In my example, I have a list with images and text in, and the images are 
 floated to the left. This then means that the text, if it is long enough, 
 wraps around the underneath of the image. I am wondering if there is any 
 graceful way to stop this without wrapping the text in a div (or maybe a 
 p) as well and floating that to the right.

Why not just put the text in a paragraph, it's difficult to know why
this might be semantically dubious without seeing the page, then give
that paragraph a left margin?

Phil Wills
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[css-d] Nested List YADM menu problem with IE

2005-06-28 Thread David Boddie

Hello all,

I have been playing with this menu for 4 days, starting over twice and it's 
about to drive me insane.


I've gotten my YADM menu almost complete. It works and looks great in most 
browsers, except IE. I'm getting a funny 2-3 pixel margin at the top of the 
nested ULs on the javascript menu. You can see it if you hover over the 
menu on the left of the page. I've adjusted the margins, the heights, the 
padding, everything. I've stripped it out of the page to display it by 
itself, and it still gives me that 3 pixel problem...


I have placed the UL menu in the #leftcolumn container, and have already 
set up the non-javascript version to look perfect on all browsers...


Can anyone help me?

HTML page http://www.uark.edu/depts/gradinfo/test/gradmockup05a.html
CSS page http://www.uark.edu/depts/gradinfo/test/gradmockup05a.css

Thanks in advance,

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RE: [css-d] Floating 2 divs side by side that go underneath each otherwhen browser screen shrinks

2005-06-28 Thread Will Merrell
stu wrote:
 Does anyone know if it is possible to float 2 divs next to each
 other taking up 50% of the screen each, until the screen size
 starts to shrink, then they list vertically (like on top of each
 other). This would happen say when the user gets to 800x600
 resolution or something.

 Its a tough one, as far as i can see, because when od you want
 the divs to flip underneath each other instead of being side by side

You can see my best solution to a closely related problem at
http://coaching-life.com/css/sample.html. It does do the wrapping thing when
the screen gets small enough, but I don't know any way to control when it
will wrap. This whole techique is very subject to font size, and behaves
differently on different browsers.

The big problem is that I cannot get the elements to add up to 100%. If they
total 90% or less the behavior is pretty predictable for most font sizes and
screen sizes on both Firefox and IE6. Anything more that about 97% destroys
the affect and the boxes just wrap. In between, it works at some
combinations of font and screen sizes and then fails at others. My best
guess at this point is that margins and padding settings affect the
calculations since almost any margin setting desrtoys the effect at a lower
percentage.

I have posted two questions to this list, but so far no one has answered
either. So maybe someone has some ideas and has not yet chimed in.

HTH,

-- Will


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Re: [css-d] an absolutely positioned a to 100% of parent

2005-06-28 Thread Charles Stuart


On Jun 27, 2005, at 9:35 PM, Richard Grevers wrote:


On 6/28/05, Charles Stuart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi,

I need to set an absolutely positioned a to the same height as the
parent div. Or... find a different way to do this. I have
accomplished this in Safari and FF. IE is not working.

*my attempts so far*
So far my attempts have relied on setting the specific a to height:
100%; and then based on this article: http://www.quirksmode.org/css/
100percheight.html, I've tried setting body and html to 100% height
to find the effects. If I set the body, the html and the div
surrounding the photo to 100%, than IE 6 does a real shoddy job
setting the a to 100% and hence solving my issue (it seems to be
undecided if it really is extending the size of the a to the
'correct' area). However, then the div wrapping the photo stretches
in height and it looks like crap.


*what i want to accomplish*
http://www.dbowman.com/photos/london05/gallery/img_1012jpg.php
That's it... Click the left side of the image to go back, click the
right to go forward. The a's hover area should extend the entire
half of the image.

I'm pretty sure I can do all of this with some PHP in the CSS file,
but I'd rather learn the CSS.




Try setting display:block on the a, height is not supposed to work
for inline elements
--




Very good point, although it did not fix IE. Thanks for the help.



best,

Charles



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Re: [css-d] Nested List YADM menu problem with IE

2005-06-28 Thread Guillaume AVELINE
The roll over is veryslow.
You migth optimize it., i've not look the code yet

 2005/6/28, David Boddie [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 
 
 Hello all,
 
 I have been playing with this menu for 4 days, starting over twice and 
 it's
 about to drive me insane.
 
 I've gotten my YADM menu almost complete. It works and looks great in most
 browsers, except IE. I'm getting a funny 2-3 pixel margin at the top of 
 the
 nested ULs on the javascript menu. You can see it if you hover over the
 menu on the left of the page. I've adjusted the margins, the heights, the
 padding, everything. I've stripped it out of the page to display it by
 itself, and it still gives me that 3 pixel problem...
 
 I have placed the UL menu in the #leftcolumn container, and have already
 set up the non-javascript version to look perfect on all browsers...
 
 Can anyone help me?
 
 HTML page http://www.uark.edu/depts/gradinfo/test/gradmockup05a.html
 CSS page http://www.uark.edu/depts/gradinfo/test/gradmockup05a.css
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 ---
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 University of Arkansas | #6 Dickson Street Annex
 Fayetteville, Arkansas 72701
 Phone: 479-575-6184 | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[css-d] Firefox strangeness with link and title attribute

2005-06-28 Thread Viascape List
I noticed a strange problem this morning with firefox regarding how it
loads external stylesheets that are specified using the html link
element when the title attribute is given a value.  I like to use the
title attribute to give descriptive names to my stylesheets so that I
can find the correct link quickly when running through my markup. 
Anyway, Firefox (I'm using 1.0.4) will load only the first stylesheet
listed if the title is given any value other than the string
Default.  If all are given the Default value, all of them will
load, but if any of the links in the list are given another value,
Firefox will not load any more stylesheets after that link. IE6 does
note exhibit this same behavior, but loads all of the stylesheets
regardless of the title value. Is there a reason for this, or is it
just a parsing bug?
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RE: [css-d] Width Woes Again

2005-06-28 Thread Holly Bergevin
From: George Smyth [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I am putting together a site that can currently be viewed at
http://sacc-jobfaircom.readyhosting.com/. 

in Internet
Explorer the three boxes with the images do not fit across.  

The xml declaration at the beginning of your page has put IE6 into
quirks rendering mode. In this mode, IE6 uses the same broken box model
as it's predecessors. 

~holly wrote:
To fix this (for IE6) you can remove the xml declaration. Alternately,
you will need to write separate width settings for the IEs as you have
discovered since both IE5 and IE5.5/Win display the same way that IE6
does now. You can use the Tan hack (star HTML selector bug) to target
only IE, however you'll probably want to hide that from IE5/Mac, as it
doesn't have an incorrect box model rendering.

George replied:
 I would really like to work with it, so I will
see if I can get the Tan hack to work (I was not able to get this to
work properly the last time I tried, but will give it another shot).

Hi again George,

The first thing you will need to do on the road to getting the Tan hack to work 
is remove your (inline)styles from your HTML page to a separate style sheet, 
either embedded in the head of the document, or stored as a separate, 
linked/imported sheet. The Tan hack needs to work from a style sheet.

After you've done that, (which will probably require some classes/IDs being 
added to your HTML so you can target the elements you need to) the Tan hack 
should be pretty easy to write, something like - 

/* \*/
* html [the ID or class you chose for the container] {width: 478px;}
/* */

I forgot before, (I guess because I don't like to use it so I don't think of it 
as a solution), there is another way you can probably do this and retain the 
inline styles if you want. After the width:472px; that you have in the style 
attribute of that container div, you can add the following - 

_width: 478px;

IE/Win will read this. So the opening tag of that div would look like (extra 
spaces in tag added by me) - 

 div style=border: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 102); margin: 0pt auto; padding: 2px; 
width: 472px; _width: 478px;  

Note also that because of the quirks mode, IE6 will not center your lower divs 
(the ones with the text in paragraphs) with the auto margins you are using on 
them. The IE5s won't do it anyway, so you will probably need to rethink how you 
are going to accomplish that if you want the spacing that is visible in other 
browsers.

hth,

~holly 
 
   
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RE: [css-d] Floating 2 divs side by side that go underneath each otherwhen browser screen shrinks

2005-06-28 Thread Ford, Janet
Does anyone know if it is possible to float 2 divs next to each other taking up 
50% of the screen each, until the screen size starts to shrink, then they list 
vertically (like on top of each other). This would happen say when the user 
gets to 800x600 resolution or something.

Hi Stu,
I did a similiar thing a while back, but I had an H1 at the top of both divs 
which I used to 'control' the wrapping. I used a min-width for Firefox, and 
padding for IE (I didn't have to worry about IE5.0) but maybe the concept will 
head you down a path?

div style=float: left; width: 50%; min-width: 30em; margin: 0; padding: 
0;h1 style=padding-right: 20em; white-space: nowrap; font-size: 
1.0emFirst Heading/h1/div
div style=float: left; width: 50%; min-width: 30em; margin: 0; padding: 
0;h1 style=padding-right: 20em; white-space: nowrap; font-size: 
1.0emSecond Heading/h1/div

HTH,
Janet
 
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Re: [css-d] Firefox strangeness with link and title attribute

2005-06-28 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
On 6/28/05, Viascape List [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I noticed a strange problem this morning with firefox regarding how it
 loads external stylesheets that are specified using the html link
 element when the title attribute is given a value.  I like to use the
 title attribute to give descriptive names to my stylesheets so that I
 can find the correct link quickly when running through my markup.
 Anyway, Firefox (I'm using 1.0.4) will load only the first stylesheet
 listed if the title is given any value other than the string
 Default.  If all are given the Default value, all of them will
 load, but if any of the links in the list are given another value,
 Firefox will not load any more stylesheets after that link. IE6 does
 note exhibit this same behavior, but loads all of the stylesheets
 regardless of the title value. Is there a reason for this, or is it
 just a parsing bug?

http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/present/styles.html#specifying-external

Regards,
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Re: [css-d] div height problems in Firefox 1.0.4

2005-06-28 Thread Holly Bergevin
From: Joe Cool [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Good day and I have a little div height rendering problem with Firefox

http://www.spiritquestdayton.org/dev/

If you view the page, you will see how the parent-container does not
stretch past the bg-container. I would like to have the
parent-container stretch to the very bottom.

Hi Michael,

See if you can get the rendering you desire by removing {height: 100%;} from 
#parent-container. Other people are better at explaining why this is than I am, 
but for the purposes of your display, that height is the height of the 
viewport, which is not what you want.

hth,

~holly 
 
   
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[css-d] css and moodle

2005-06-28 Thread David Cormier
I'm currently doing a customization on the css for moodle. There is a 
LARGE amount of tidying that could be done, I'm just wondering if it's 
worth it. currently there are three css files (2k, 5k, 23k).


thanks muchly
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Re: [css-d] Still problems with Faux columns

2005-06-28 Thread Holly Bergevin
Phil Winter schrieb:
 ... http://www.webdesignpartners.com/perfect_gift/index.html
 ... When you view it in FF, the repeating gif does not appear.
 But, it DOES appear if I put a border around the content_
 wrapper div, which I don't want.

I don't have a fix yet, I just wanted to say that the bg-image is 
displayed well in my Fx nightly build (DeerPark) and in my Opera8 copy, 
but not in Fx 1.0.4.

Note: in IE6 XPSP2, the left colum, at the end, shows duplicated 
characters: d., these are the two last characters from the right 
column's advertised. 
http://positioniseverything.net/explorer/dup-characters.html

In addition to what Ingo pointed out about the duplicated characters, have you 
tried simply putting a character (such as a non-breaking space) in your 
clearing element, rather than simply physical space? (extra spaces below are 
mine) -

 div class=clearfloats nb sp; /div 

hth,

~holly 
 
   
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[css-d] [Printing problems with DL/DT/DD for numbered paragraphs] rides again...

2005-06-28 Thread Mirgy-CSS-discuss



Friends,

This is a continuation of the page looks fine but printing is screwed up 
thread...


In response to the suggestion from Peter Williams I removed the xml line 
from the top of the file. I appreciate the suggestion and the education, 
but it has made no difference in the outcome. The illustrative sample 
(http://www.h4c.org/testing/test-case.html) validates, and has its CSS in-line.


I'm satisfied with this general approach (using definition lists) for 
having numbered text paragraphs, as it appears to scale well, given that 
even what I would think of as ridiculously large font sizes (e.g. 38 px) 
for visually impaired users. Likewise, it requires only a bare minimum of 
markup to achieve the desired result, in contrast to the use of tables, and 
in fact even in contrast to the use of floated divs. Note that in this 
instance, since the numbers are not properly part of the text, I wanted to 
distinguish that visually; an ordinary OL would not allow that, and in 
any case the material with which I am working offers a lot of complexities. 
Not every document can be numbered in simple numeric sequence, and 
aesthetically I prefer to choose one solution that will handle all 
situations, rather than having several solutions, depending... (It is 
certainly not essential to the technical issues, but if anyone is 
interested, a more complex, real-world example of how I intend to use this 
is found at http://www.h4c.org/testing/html/20020410.html. I've no doubt 
made some tyro errors, but I've tried to keep everything proportional for 
future scaling via JS and manipulations of the CSS.)


If the problems with printing can be solved, it looks as though this 
approach could provide a useful solution to certain classes of multiple 
item, two column text problems, such as building questionnaires, offering 
screenplays, etc. Those of us who come to this list, hat in hand, should 
expect to give something back. Perhaps this approach would be of modest use 
to others, assuming that the printing problems are resolved/resolvable.



The overall cannot print difficulty, I am well nigh convinced, has to do 
with the user agent wanting to put the entire definition list on one page-- 
treating it as one unit-- and as such short test cases (1 page) do not 
demonstrate it. (It makes some modest sense to me that the UAs would try to 
keep the contents of a DT/DD pair together on one page, but the whole list??)


When trying to print a longer definition list-- i.e. which exceeds one 
page-- the UAs are (mostly) acting thus 
(http://www.w3.org/TR/css-print/#s.8.2):


If page-break-inside: avoid is specified for a long element and the printer 
is unable to buffer the entire element before committing it to paper, it 
SHOULD force a page break to occur before the long element and begin the 
element starting at the top of the next page. If the long element starts at 
the top of a page and exceeds the page length, the printer SHALL print as 
much as possible on the first page and then resume that element on the next 
and subsequent pages as REQUIRED to preserve the content.


As I said, both FF and IE (1.0.4 and 6.0.2 on XP; test browsers most 
readily available to me) appear to consider the whole definition list as 
one long element, and are only mostly following the process listed in 
the spec (albeit I've not found any spec that specifies this behavior for 
definition lists). In other words, it seems that both IE and FF try to 
assemble the page, but, for a long list with the CSS as last submitted 
(i.e. http://archivist.incutio.com/viewlist/css-discuss/59495), these UAs 
want to put a page break as the first element of every page-- and so they 
loop. Different buggy output occurs-- a few all blank pages; far too many 
blank pages; FF freezing; strange page breaks; truncated printout of the 
list; etc.-- depending on the specifics of the CSS used (i.e. using 
page-break-inside:auto; in the DL element, or using page-break-after: 
always; in the DD element)...


I've not found anything via Google et al about what should happen with a 1 
page definition list, nor about this specific problem. Anyone?


I have found several ways to avoid having FF freeze as it ponders the 
problem of its infinite must put all this on the next page loop (the 
best one is shown in the in-line CSS), but so far, no joy at getting what 
would seem to be the desired result, which is pages with text that are well 
filled within the margins specified by the browser... The present sample 
will not freeze FF, but removing the page-break directive from the CSS will 
cause that...



Thoughts?

If this can be fixed, then great, but if not, would anyone out there in 
expert land wish to venture an opine about other/better ways to accomplish 
the overall goal, which is having numbered text paragraphs.


d.
David William House
AllHear, Inc.
P.O. Box 330 / 23022 Yeary Lane N.E.
Aurora, OR 97002-0330 USA
(503) 266-6730 (voice) / (503) 

Re: [css-d] stretching a div, disappearing content

2005-06-28 Thread Ingo Chao

Maren Child schrieb:
In the page http://www.biotext.com.au/test0205/columns20.html when you 
resize the page, it's okay till it gets to about 400 px wide then the 
content (the stuff in the 'main' div) just disappears in IE 5 and IE6 
windows. I put 'position: relative' in the style for 'main' because 
otherwise the tables are coming out into the side margins in IE6.


for this part of your post:

Never let a block position:relative without a dimension in IE6. Let the 
block gain layout via #main {height:1%} in your conditional comment section.


Another reason for some content of your site becomes invisible are font 
settings like x-small for navigation links.


Ingo

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RE: [css-d] [Printing problems with DL/DT/DD for numbered paragr aphs] rides again...

2005-06-28 Thread Pringle, Ron
 Thoughts?
 
 If this can be fixed, then great, but if not, would anyone 
 out there in 
 expert land wish to venture an opine about other/better ways 
 to accomplish 
 the overall goal, which is having numbered text paragraphs.
 
 d.
 David William House

David-

I didn't catch the beginning of this thread, so perhaps I'm missing
something, but I don't see the logic or reason behind the use of a
definition list for numbered paragraphs. As you have it now, the dt has
little meaning or relation to the dd. The number is hardly a term and the
paragraph doesn't describe it.

You could easily achieve the same thing by simply marking up the paragraphs
as p's and using a span with an assigned class to style each number.
Better yet, designate each number as a header (h2, h3, whatever) and
follow it with the paragraph. I think the header/paragraph would make the
most sense in a non-visual way.

Ron
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Re: [css-d] Float help

2005-06-28 Thread Tom Livingston
On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 16:19:51 -0400, Tom Livingston  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Hello list,

I am having trouble with a layout. If you use FF and have Web Dev  
toolbar you will see my dilemma. I can't find where the text under the  
thumbnails is getting the huge width from. I'm sure it is something  
stupid.


http://www.petticoatjewels.com/test/designs.htm

TIA



I solved my initial problem, but am not sure if my fix will make anyone  
clasp a hand over their mouth to keep the last thing they ate from getting  
on their shoes. Please take a peek if you have the time and also let me  
know, if possible, how to get rid of the extra space to the left of the  
images. They should line up, on the left, with the paragraph above them.


TIA

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Subject: RE: [css-d] a:hover border-bottom not showing up in IE?

2005-06-28 Thread Jason Baker

 From: Peter Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Have you turned off the default underlining ofr links in the div?
 #nav a {text-decoration:none;}

Peter, I have now added the text-decoration:none; to both relevant 
sections of the css file but I still do not see a bottom border in IE. 
Here are the new relevant sections:


div#nav
{
 position: absolute;
 top: 90%;
 left: 3%;
 z-index: 2;
}

div#nav a
{
 color: black;
 background-color: white;
 margin: 2em 0.5em;
 padding: 0.10em 0.30em;
 text-decoration: none;
 font-family: helvetica, sans-serif;
 font-size: 14px;
 z-index: 3;
 filter: alpha(opacity=50);
 -moz-opacity: 0.50;
 opacity: 0.50;
 border-top: 2px solid #00;
 border-bottom: 2px solid #00;
 border-left: 2px solid #00;
 border-right: 2px solid #00;
}

div#nav a:hover
{
 text-decoration: none;
 border-style: dashed;
 filter: alpha(opacity=100);
 -moz-opacity: 1;
 opacity: 1;
}



Additionally i see that you have the class named #nav a rather than 
div#nav a, is there a difference? should i be doing things one way or 
the other?


-jason

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Re: [css-d] footer jumble

2005-06-28 Thread David Hucklesby
On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 07:07:32 -0700, Adam Helweh wrote:
 Also, can anyone take a look at my footer and suggest a good method
 to place it centered outside of the white area?

 http://www.rocklinsystems.com/infinity/about.htm

Hi Adam,
Moving your #footerinternal DIV to the end of the #leftcol DIV and
adjusting the CSS seems to do it. Try:

#footerinternal {
background-color: #8C2328;
position: relative;
font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
color: #FF;
font-size: x-small;
line-height: 1.5em;
font-weight: bold;
height: 50px;
/*   - remove these :
width: 665px;
margin: 0px auto;
clear:both;
- add this : */
text-align:center;
}

It _appears_ outside because of the background-color.
I hope this is what you meant.

Cordially,
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Re: [css-d] Float help

2005-06-28 Thread Holly Bergevin
From: Tom Livingston [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 http://www.petticoatjewels.com/test/designs.htm

how to get rid of the extra space to the left of the  
images. They should line up, on the left, with the paragraph above them.

Assuming the problem is in IE/Win (my Mozilla looks fine, as does Opera) please 
see - 

http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer/doubled-margin.html

hope that helps,

~holly 
 
   
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[css-d] Overlapping divs

2005-06-28 Thread Brett Lucas
In a link list I have on my site I have a problem in
Mozilla browsers..The title
line(style=searchtitleevent) is wrapping on lower
screen recolutions...and overlapping the next div
(searchvenue) causing an unplanned and annoying
effect.

Here is the URL:

http://www.english.heacademy.ac.uk/explore/events/archive/2004.php

and the HTML:

div class=searchresult
div class=searchtitleeventa
href=topics/newlect1.phpTraining Event for New
Lecturers/a/div
div class=searchvenue 
emstrongVenue:/strong/em Birmingham Conference
Park - December 2004/div
div
class=searchurlemstrongTheme:/strong/em a
href=newlect.phpNew Lecturers/a/div
  /div

the styles are as follows:

.searchresult {
margin-bottom: 10px;
border-bottom-width: 1px;
border-bottom-style: solid;
border-bottom-color: #FFCC33;
padding-top: 5px;
padding-right: 5px;
padding-bottom: 5px;
background-color: #FAF0D0;
}

.searchtitleevent {
text-decoration: none;
background-image: url(../images/icons/events.gif);
background-repeat: no-repeat;
background-position: left top;
padding-left: 25px;
padding-right: 95px;
font-weight: bold;
height: 20px;
position: relative;
}

.searchvenue {

padding-left: 25px;
padding-bottom: 3px;
}

.searchurl {
padding-left: 25px;
padding-bottom: 3px;
}

I would appreciate any pointers as to what I am doing wrong.



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[css-d] IE: Stretched Image as background in IE?

2005-06-28 Thread Jason Baker
I am trying to make a stretched background fill the viewport. The 
desired effect is to have an image stretched to 100% of the viewport's 
width and have a 94% height. Additionally i want to vertically center 
the image. I'm not sure if i'm attempting this effect correctly, so feel 
free to suggest alternative solutions. I am having trouble making an 
image's height stretch to a specific dimension in IE, but width 
stretching and the top offset of 3% are working fine.  The effect works 
fine in firefox but IE just leaves the images height as it was.


Test Page: http://www.onejasonforsale.com/test.html
Test Css : http://www.onejasonforsale.com/test.css

Relevant Html:

div
img alt=backgroundphoto id=bgimage src=jason.jpg /
/div

Relevant Css [the whole file..]:

BODY
{
 background: white;
 margin:0%;
 padding:0%;
}

img#bgimage
{
 z-index: 1;
 position: absolute;

 left:0%;
 right:0%;
 width: 100%;

 top: 3%;
 bottom: 3%;
 height: 94%;

 border-bottom: 3px ridge white;
 border-top: 3px ridge white;
}

thanks!

- jason

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[css-d] horizontal border in a liquid layout

2005-06-28 Thread Maren Child
I have fixed the problem I had with disappearing content (thanks Ingo) but
after several more versions
still can't get the green border under the 'topnavbar' div to stretch so it
goes across to just before the logo.

I guess what I want to say is 'width = 100% minus 140 pixels' and
'margin-left = 30 pixels'.
The css that's operating on it is:

#logosymbol {  position: absolute; right: 50px; top: 48px; width: 88px;
height: 182px;
}
#topnavbar {  position: absolute; top: 177px; margin-left: 30px; height:
48px;
  width: 83%;
  background-image: url(bar.gif); background-repeat: repeat-x;
  background-position: right bottom;
}
and in the ie6 conditional comment, these are in a 'header' div with 100%
width.

The 83% width works at a screen resolution of 1024 but starts overlapping as
soon as you make the window a bit smaller.

Is it possible to do this at all or should I just give up trying?
The page is at http://www.biotext.com.au/test0205/columns22.html

Thanks
Maren

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[css-d] One Header And Footer for Site Using CSS?

2005-06-28 Thread Debbie Silbert
Hello:

I've been lurking in this forum for a few weeks now and need to ask a
question.

I had someone I work with convert my Website to ASP.NET.  The main goal was
to have one static header and footer file with many content pages.  The
ASP.NET would render the page by piecing together the header, content, and
footer.  This relationship has gone sour and I do not know ASP.NET, so need
to convert everything back to XHTML.  Yes, I know.  Many lessons learned
through this experience. ;-)

My question is this, is there a way to accomplish the original goal of
maintaining the site with one header and footer file using CSS?  

Thanks!

Debbie Silbert




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RE: [css-d] link list problem in IE_ from yesterday

2005-06-28 Thread Peter Williams
 From: Adam Helweh
 Internet Explorer 6... as soon as I click they turn gray and 
 underlined. This is not a style I use
 CSS- http://www.rocklinsystems.com/infinity/styles/infinitystyles.css

Define the a:active pseudo class for the links.
At present you are seeing the IE default display for this state.

Order of defining the link states should be LVHA.

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[css-d] site check - real estate site

2005-06-28 Thread fokuss

Hello All...
Thanks for the gracious help of others I finally got the site where I 
need it to be.
Its filled with filler content of course, but all needed pages are up 
(and look the same).


Let me know what you think.

http://www.rocklinsystems.com/infinity/


Thanks
Adam
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RE: [css-d] [Printing problems with DL/DT/DD for numbered paragraphs] rides again...

2005-06-28 Thread Peter Williams
 From: Pringle, Ron
 
 ...I don't see the logic or reason behind the use of a
 definition list for numbered paragraphs. As you have it now, 
 the dt has little meaning or relation to the dd.
 SNIP
 Better yet, designate each number as a header (h2, h3, 
 whatever) and
 follow it with the paragraph. I think the header/paragraph 
 would make the
 most sense in a non-visual way.

David,

When I was managing a large collection of policy and instructional
documents (where the authors of the original MS Word versions just
loved numbered paragraphs) I used a H4  P combo as suggested by Ron.

I agree with him that, sematically, your DL method is less than optimal.
You really should *describe* the document elements with your markup,
not just use what allows pleasing appearance in some output media.

This part of the discussions is off-topic though, so I don't think
we can progress it here. webdesign-l is a place where you will get
considered and practices opinions on the markup choices that could
best suit your purpose, and which may also allow for styling the
output in ways that satisfy your desire for a certain layout.
http://www.webdesign-l.com/

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RE: Subject: RE: [css-d] a:hover border-bottom not showing up in IE?

2005-06-28 Thread Peter Williams
 From: Jason Baker
 Peter, I have now added the text-decoration:none;
 ...still do not see a bottom border in IE. 
 
 Additionally i see that you have the class named #nav a rather
than div#nav a, is there a difference? should i be doing things 
 one way or the other?

I noted that another list member offered the information that the
bottom-border problem disappeared when the text size was increased.
So it is probably just a display glitch/artifact, rather than any
markup of css error on your part.

div#nav is more explicit and specific that #nav.
If you define #nav you could use it on a div, p, h, whatever.
If you define div#nav then all it can be is a div.

There is no practical difference, but #nav offers more versatility,
your way offers more specificity, but sinece an ID can only occur
once per page it is hard to imagine why you'd need to do it that way.

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RE: [css-d] site check - real estate site

2005-06-28 Thread CommunicateIT.NET
Nice design but it does load slowly on a dial-up connection. There isn't any
text for your images which will help.

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Subject: [css-d] site check - real estate site

Hello All...
Thanks for the gracious help of others I finally got the site where I 
need it to be.
Its filled with filler content of course, but all needed pages are up 
(and look the same).

Let me know what you think.

http://www.rocklinsystems.com/infinity/


Thanks
Adam
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[css-d] Absolutely positioned menu displays in FF but not IE

2005-06-28 Thread David Wang
Hi,

The site I'm working on has an absolutely positioned menu at the top of each 
page. However, within the markup, the menu is actually at the end of the 
page. The menu (#smenu) shows correctly in Firefox but not in IE. It's 
easier for me to show you my problem than put in into words, so please point 
IE and Firefox to http://beta.quattro.com.my to observe the problem. Now you 
see it (in Firefox), now you don't (in IE).

My CSS file is located at http://beta.quattro.com.my/assets/styles.css

I'm actually trying to emulate the menu positioning from Doug Bowman's 
Stopdesign (I only refer, never copy). In his site, Doug places #cnav right 
at the top with absolute positioning, but within the markup it is actually 
down at the footer.

What am I doing wrong? How can I make IE display the menu?

Any help is much appreciated,
 
David
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RE: [css-d] horizontal border in a liquid layout

2005-06-28 Thread Peter Williams
 From: Maren Child
 ...green border under the 'topnavbar' div
 
 I guess what I want to say is 'width = 100% minus 140 pixels' and
 'margin-left = 30 pixels'.

So if you remove the width and just give it left and right margins
of 30 and 140 px what happens?

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[css-d] Mac/ie5.2-Saf::Win/ie5x

2005-06-28 Thread David Laakso

re: Mac/ie5.2. Safari. Win/ie5x.
About all I can tell from browsercam is that the header is not upside  
down. A quick look, and any correction(s)  always appreciated.

http://www.dlaakso.com/sandbox/css.html
(min-max 600-1000 :: 200% zoom :: div:hover)
Thanks.
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Re: [css-d] [Printing problems with DL/DT/DD for numbered paragr aphs] rides again...

2005-06-28 Thread T. R. Valentine
On 28/06/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 As regards the second approach, it may have use and merit, but its not
 clear to me how to produce a paragraph with a hanging indent, so that one
 has what in essence has two columns where one is dedicated to numbering,
 and the other is dedicated to text, which scales well across a large range
 of font sizes, and which minimizes markup:
 
 ==
 |  1. | This is some text. This is some text. This is some text.
 |  | This is some text. This is some text. This is some text.
 |  | This is some text. This is some text. This is.
 |  2. | This is different text. This is different text. This is different
 |  | text. This is different text. This is different text. This is 
 dif-
 |  | ferent text. This is different text. This is different text. 
 This.
 ==

A hanging-indent can be achieved by using the text-indent property and
assigning it a negative value. What would be tricky in the above would
be aligning the beginning of the text following the number with the
left edge of the other lines.

hth,
T. R. Valentine
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RE: [css-d] [Printing problems with DL/DT/DD for numbered paragraphs] rides again...

2005-06-28 Thread Peter Williams
 From: T. R. Valentine
 
 A hanging-indent can be achieved by using the text-indent property and
 assigning it a negative value. What would be tricky in the above would
 be aligning the beginning of the text following the number with the
 left edge of the other lines.

Back on css topic :-)

How about the css2 first-line pseudo-element?

5.12.1 The :first-line pseudo-element
The :first-line pseudo-element applies special styles to the first formatted
line of a paragraph. For instance:

p:first-line { set your hanging indent here; }

You'd need to test the bowser support amongst your intended user base.

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[css-d] Eric Meyer thumbnail gallery

2005-06-28 Thread Doug Niven
Hello folks,

There is a very nice thumbnail gallery in the More Eric Meyer on CSS book,
which I have temporarily posted here for easy reference:

http://stinkyrat.com/proj02/ch0207.html

My question: Is there any way to align the thumbnails along one baseline? I
think it's a great layout aside from the horizontal alignment, and I know of
no solution to fix thisurgh!

This is the relevant CSS:

div.pic {float: left; height: 130px; width: 130px;
  padding: 15px; margin: 5px 3px;}
div.pic img {border: 1px solid; border-color: #444 #AAA #AAA #444;}
div.ls img {height: 96px; width: 128px; margin: 16px 0;}
div.pt img {height: 128px; width: 96px; margin: 0 16px;}
div.pic ul {display: none;}

Any help would be much appreciated!



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Re: [css-d] horizontal border in a liquid layout

2005-06-28 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun

Maren Child wrote:
I have fixed the problem I had with disappearing content (thanks 
Ingo) but after several more versions still can't get the green 
border under the 'topnavbar' div to stretch so it goes across to just

 before the logo.


Think you've got it the wrong way around. The green border should start
at the logo, and stretch to the left. The rest is just adjustments to
make it look right.

The following is based on this page:

http://www.biotext.com.au/test0205/columns_25.html


#topnavbar {position: absolute;
top: 177px;
right: 130px;
height: 48px;
background-image: url(bar4.gif);
background-repeat: repeat-x;
background-position: right bottom;
width: 100%;
z-index: 1;
}
#whitebg {  float: left;
width: 160px;
height: 48px;
background-color: #fff;
}

...and a proper doctype that the browsers will honor. I used:
!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd;

Safari, Firefox, Opera, IE6 and IE/Mac seems to be happy with it -
regardless of page-width above 600px.

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Re: [css-d] Eric Meyer thumbnail gallery

2005-06-28 Thread Kelly Miller

Change:

div.ls img {height: 96px; width: 128px; margin: 16px 0;}

to

div.ls img {height: 96px; width: 128px; margin: 32px 0 0;}





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Re: [css-d] IE: Stretched Image as background in IE?

2005-06-28 Thread Big John
Jason Baker wrote:

 I am trying to make a stretched background fill the viewport. The 
 desired effect is to have an image stretched to 100% of the viewport's 
 width and have a 94% height. Additionally i want to vertically center 
 the image. I'm not sure if i'm attempting this effect correctly, so feel 
 free to suggest alternative solutions. I am having trouble making an 
 image's height stretch to a specific dimension in IE, but width 
 stretching and the top offset of 3% are working fine.  The effect works 
 fine in firefox but IE just leaves the images height as it was.
 
 Test Page: http://www.onejasonforsale.com/test.html
 Test Css : http://www.onejasonforsale.com/test.css

You need to give a 100% height for the body so IE has something
to calculate against.

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Re: [css-d] Eric Meyer thumbnail gallery

2005-06-28 Thread Richard Grevers
On 6/29/05, Doug Niven [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello folks,
 
 There is a very nice thumbnail gallery in the More Eric Meyer on CSS book,
 which I have temporarily posted here for easy reference:
 
 http://stinkyrat.com/proj02/ch0207.html
 
 My question: Is there any way to align the thumbnails along one baseline? I
 think it's a great layout aside from the horizontal alignment, and I know of
 no solution to fix thisurgh!
 
 This is the relevant CSS:
 
 div.pic {float: left; height: 130px; width: 130px;
   padding: 15px; margin: 5px 3px;}
 div.pic img {border: 1px solid; border-color: #444 #AAA #AAA #444;}
 div.ls img {height: 96px; width: 128px; margin: 16px 0;}
 div.pt img {height: 128px; width: 96px; margin: 0 16px;}
 div.pic ul {display: none;}
 
redistribute the margins thus:
div.ls img {height: 96px; width: 128px; margin: 32px 0 0 0;}
div.pt img {height: 128px; width: 96px; margin: 0 16px;}
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[css-d] tabtastic anchor page offset

2005-06-28 Thread Mark Renn Caluag
hello everyone

im sure most of us here have seen tabtastic 
http://phrogz.net/JS/Tabtastic/index.html . i am very impressed by the 
simplicity of the library, however whenever you click on a tab, the anchor's 
position is changed and in cases where you have a long tab-content, the page 
scrolls breaking the illusion of a tab pane. 

i was wondering if there is anybody here who have tried to solve this 
usability problem or has a bit of idea how. 

my idea is to disable the page offset when a #fragment is clicked.

anyone?

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Re: Subject: RE: [css-d] a:hover border-bottom not showing up in IE?

2005-06-28 Thread Ingo Chao
Jason, is there a special reason why you didn't even tried the 
suggestion in my post?


-
Filter only apply to elements which have layout, and any dimension 
will let your link gain this quality


/* \*/
* html #nav a {height:1%}
/* */

border and filter are back, but you'll probably have to adjust the 
positioning.


Ingo

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RE: [css-d] horizontal border in a liquid layout

2005-06-28 Thread Maren Child
Okay, it works now, thanks very much for your help. But I don't quite
understand why it works the way it does and I would really appreciate if you
have the time to explain it to me. The whitebg div seems to push the navbar
across to the right, but it doesn't seem to push it over 160 pixels (the
width of the whitebg div).
In the file http://www.biotext.com.au/test0205/columns27.html I set the
whitebg div to a width of 160 pixels but it looks as if there is about 30
pixels space to the left. In the file
http://www.biotext.com.au/test0205/columns29.html I set the width of whitebg
to 220 pixels and there is more but it's not 220 pixels.

Don't know what happened to my doctype, I'm sure I had a proper one in there
at one stage. I've put in the 4.01 transitional - loose dtd, as I am handing
this over to the client for maintenance in an old version of Dreamweaver,
and I'm dubious about the html that will be inserted as content. However I
also tried this with xhtml at
http://www.biotext.com.au/test0205/columns30.html and the space to the left
still doesn't look like 160 pixels.

Thanks,
Maren


Think you've got it the wrong way around. The green border should start
at the logo, and stretch to the left. The rest is just adjustments to
make it look right.

The following is based on this page:
 http://www.biotext.com.au/test0205/columns_25.html

#topnavbar {position: absolute;
 top: 177px;
 right: 130px;
 height: 48px;
 background-image: url(bar4.gif);
 background-repeat: repeat-x;
 background-position: right bottom;
 width: 100%;
 z-index: 1;
}
#whitebg {  float: left;
 width: 160px;
 height: 48px;
 background-color: #fff;
}

 ...and a proper doctype that the browsers will honor. I used:
!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN
 http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd;

 Safari, Firefox, Opera, IE6 and IE/Mac seems to be happy with it -
regardless of page-width above 600px.

 regards
Georg
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Re: [css-d] Mac/ie5.2-Saf::Win/ie5x

2005-06-28 Thread David Laakso
On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 23:58:40 -0400, Philippe Wittenbergh [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

On 29 Jun 2005, at 10:57 am, David Laakso wrote:

re: Mac/ie5.2. Safari. Win/ie5x.

...

http://www.dlaakso.com/sandbox/css.html
(min-max 600-1000 :: 200% zoom :: div:hover)

[...]
Before receiving your on-list reply, I felt that Mac/IE5.2 was a lost  
cause, and certainly not worth your time and effort; consequently, I hid  
the style sheet from that browser, deleted Vivaldi(unreadable on my end)  
and Zapino(for the sake of Safari) from the first letter font-family, and  
corrected (I think) some of the other problems you mentioned.

Thanks.
Best,
David Laakso


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