Re: [CTRL] Clinton expands river grab
-Caveat Lector- This has to do with weather modification program which will result in climatic changes which already is evidet. Oceans 2 inches higher; polar caps melting - this is to warm up Russia. And, when mexico signed the last agreement a lot of rain is pouring where it usually is dryer and they wil re-route these rivers. Must be some expert on this tha can explain this - goes back to early 70 period when Udall was Senatorbook called The Weather Changer - never made best seller list - no sex. Colleen DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] fw: Fluoridation = Poisoning
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 3/23/99 6:34:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Almost right, not quite... Fluoridation originated in El Paso, because the local water supply has naturally high fluoride levels, and the local population has low levels of dental caries [cavities], and some researchers put those facts together, did some research... and now fluoridated water and toothpastes are used worldwide. At the moment the only authority I have on hand is Hanna Kroeger, but the naturally occurring Calcium Fluoride that gives Texans great bones and teeth is not the "Sodium Fluoride" that is added to city water and is one of the most toxic substances known to man. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Russia Friends
From http://defence-data.com/current/page4009.htm Russia starts building India's three Krivak class destroyers March 22nd, 1999 by Gordon Feller, Defence Systems Daily's correspondent in Moscow After being delayed several months while furiously looking for financing, on Wednesday St. Petersburg's Baltiisky Zavod shipyard finally laid the keel on the first of a $1 billion trio of state-of-the-art warships ordered by the Indian navy. Vladimir Yukhnin, the chief naval architect at the Severnoye PKB, which designed the frigates, calls them the "warships of the next century" and said that no foreign navy has anything comparable. The 4,000-ton frigates are equipped with advanced-guidance missiles to neutralise surface, subsurface and aerial targets. Reports have said that the ships are also equipped with "stealth" technology that enables them to avoid detection by enemy radar, and Yukhnin said the ships also have a bombing complex called RBU-6000 and facilities to harbour helicopters - all of which makes them extremely competitive on the international market. India ordered the three Krivak class warships from Russia's state arms dealer, Rosvooruzheniye, in 1997 to "partially arrest its declining force levels and to improve combat capabilities," according to Indian news reports at the time. On Wednesday shipyard director Oleg Shulyakovsky said Baltiisky Zavod will deliver two of the frigates by 2002 and the third by 2003. The first frigate has to be completed in April of 2002 - two years later than originally planned - with the second coming six months later and the third six months after that. "The keel for the second warship will be laid by the end of the year," Shulyakovsky said. The project and the shipyard's controversial director have received considerable attention in the Russian media. Last month, when Shulyakovsky appealed to the Kremlin for funds for the project, the media accused him of embezzling India's down payment, which, according to Shulyakovsky himself, was more than $100 million - but he denied the charges. Construction, which was supposed to begin last year, was put on hold after the shipyard - one of the largest in Russia - saw its credit line disappear with the crisis. The original investor, Uneximbank - which owns 50.5 percent of the shipyard - sold its stake just before the August crash. But even before the sell-off and the crisis the shipyard was having trouble getting financing. The framework agreement with India calls for Baltiisky Zavod to borrow private money to complete the projects because the cost of the first frigate is estimated at $270 million, and India agreed only to pay a small portion of that before 2001. Shulyakovsky tried several different tracks to attract a new lender -including last month's request to First Deputy Prime Minister Yury Maslyukov to print $300 million worth of roubles. Another option, which Shulyakovsky proposed in January, was a state guarantee for the loans the shipyard planned to attract from abroad. It is unclear where the money is coming from, however. At Wednesday's keel-laying celebration Shulyakovsky would only said that the "financial problem had been solved" and he declined to elaborate. There is nothing unusual in borrowing money for contracts that are paid off steadily over several years, experts said Thursday. But this deal was particularly difficult to finance because commercial conditions are worse here than in other European shipyards. And Baltiisky Zavod has been troubled by the recent economic situation, which has forced it to change its prospective partners several times. Shulyakovsky did say, however, that the shipyard is not using any state money and has attracted a $140 million credit line with a "satisfactory" interest rate, but he declined to name the bank or specify the conditions of the loan. There are several possible sources of financing for Baltiisky Zavod. The shipyard has significant support from Inter-regional Investment Bank, known by its Russian acronym MIB, which is one of the shipyard's shareholders and has tight connections with Rosvooruzheniye through affiliated companies. Another possible source of financing, according to the respected daily newspaper Kommersant, is Vneshtorgbank. And another bank, Vnesheconombank, is already close to the deal by performing the role as agent to handle payments from India to Rosvooruzheniye. Whichever bank is involved, however, the project is finally up and running with financing based on the future payments from India. "The credit line the shipyard received recently is guaranteed by the prospective payments of the Indian government," Shulyakovsky said cautiously. Baltiisky Zavod desperately needed this contract to move ahead. Losing the Indian navy as a client would probably have forced the shipyard to layoff staff and made getting future contracts more difficult. But now, thanks in part to finally finding a lender, business is looking up for the shipyard.
[CTRL] Fwd: Pomobabble
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TOWER OF POMOBABBLE DOMINATES GROVES OF ACADEME
A professor once wrote this about Tonya Harding's attack on Nancy Kerrigan:
"This melodrama parsed the transgressive hybridity of unnarrativized
representative bodies back into recognizable heterovisual codes." Probable
English translation: Maybe Tonya had Nancy's leg smashed because she was
attracted to her. If so, the media wouldn't tell us.
The professor was writing in "pomobabble." This is the jargon of
postmodernism, the intellectual movement that says truth doesn't exist and
that all values and knowledge are "socially constructed" -- made up to
serve the interests of the powerful.
Postmodernism has swept through our universities, doing great damage. But
"pomobabble" has emerged as a source of constant mirth. As a hoax, Alan
Sokal, a physicist at New York University, wrote an article in dense
pomobabble arguing that gravity and physical reality are social constructs.
Social Text magazine took it as a serious piece and published it. Later, to
explain the joke to the magazine's editors, Sokal said that anyone who
doubts the law of gravity should come up to his apartment and try walking
out the window. He lives on the 21st floor.
Pomobabblers now win most awards in the annual Bad Writing Contest, says
Denis Dutton, a professor in New Zealand and editor of Philosophy and
Literature, the scholarly journal that sponsors the competition. Homi
Bhabha of the University of Chicago took second place last year for this
sentence:
"If, for a while, the ruse of desire is calculable for the uses of
discipline soon the repetition of guilt, justification, pseudo-scientific
theories, superstitition, spurious authorities and classifications can be
seen as the desperate effort to 'normalize' formally the disturbance of a
discourse of splitting that violated the rational, enlightened claim of its
enunciatory modality."
Wondering what an enunciatory modality might be, I phoned Bhabha, who
explained that it is technical language referring to a network of terms,
vocabulary and language that construct a particular set of meanings. I was
pleased he was able to clear that up.
The grand prizewinner of 1998 was a 94-word effort by Judith Butler of the
University of California, Berkeley, a professor of rhetoric and comparative
literature. For a school assignment, my daughter and a classmate worked
four hours to untangle and diagram this sentence. Here it comes, at half
its length to save space:
"The move from a structuralist account ... marked a shift from a form of
Althusserian theory that takes structural totalities as theoretical objects
to one in which the insights into the contingent possibility of structure
inaugurate a renewed conception of hegemony as bound up with the contingent
sites and strategies of the rearticulation of power."
Butler is an academic star. But Martha Nussbaum, a scholar at the
University of Chicago Law School, recently wrote that when Butler's notions
are stated clearly and succinctly, they don't amount to much. The obscurity
of Butler's prose, she wrote, "bullies the reader into granting that, since
one cannot figure out what is going on, there must be something significant
going on."
Many scholars are now busy mocking pomobabble. The Michigan Law Review ran
a long spoof of postmodern legal gibberish written by law professor Dennis
Arrow ("There is the double narrative, the narrative of the vision enclosed
in the general narrative carried on by the same narrator.")
Australian professors have created a "Postmodern Generator," an Internet
Web site that spits out a new essay in pomobabble each time the site is hit
(http://www.cs.monash.edu.au/cgi-bin/postmodern). My visit to the site
produced deep thoughts about Marxism ("Thus, Marx uses the term 'Marxism'
to denote not, in fact, desublimation but predesublimation. The example of
dialectic narrative ... emerges again in 'The Last Words of Dutch Schultz,'
although in a more textual sense.")
Anyone can learn pomobabble. String together words such as "hegemonic,"
"transgressive," "narrativity" and "valorization." Refer often to murky
French philosophers. Deprivilege heterosexuality by gluing "hetero" to the
front of normal words, creating terms like "heterotextuality."
Denis Dutton is so good at this that I asked him to translate three recent
quotes from American politics into pomospeak. Here they are, academically
transformed:
1. "The gendered non-being in modes of heterolocalized transgressivity
negotiates while it articulates an ontology of the sexualized body
simultaneously within a contested absentation of narrativity symbolized
within a discourse of indiscriminate penetrative phallicism. ("I never had
sexual relations with that woman.")
2. "The multivocality of semanticism essentialized in a dialogue of Being
instantiates while it interrogates a
[CTRL] Fwd: Bosnia: 03-24-99
Well, now, you know: it's the old case of the two brothers fighting when the third party shows up who tries to interfere ... the brothers unite until they subdue the interferer then go back to their own dispute ... and isn't it interesting there's not been a lot of news about Bosnia ... how these 'diplomats' assume they can solve what even Clinton has recognised as being a 7 centuries' old conflict in a matter of a decade is quite a bit presumptuous (if not down-right stupid) ... AER From wsws.org WSWS : News Analysis : Europe : The Balkan Crisis Dayton Accord near collapse: the political crisis in Bosnia By Justus Leicht 24 March 1999 As NATO prepares to impose the so-called Dayton II model for Kosovo by military force, Dayton I--the "peace accord" for Bosnia adopted four years ago--is falling apart. On March 5 the representative of the NATO powers, Carlos Westendorp, sacked President Nikola Poplasen of the Bosnian Serb republic. At the same time an International Commission of Arbitration made its decision on the region of Brcko, which has been disputed since the beginning of the war in Bosnia. Brcko was declared to be a neutral zone, neither belonging to the Moslem-Croat federation nor to the Bosnian Serb republic. Without it the Serb-ruled half of Bosnia is split geographically into two separate parts, the eastern half bordering on Serbia proper and the western part surrounded by Croatia and the Moslem-Croatian federation. In the past all leading Bosnian Serb politicians had declared that Serb possession of Brcko was a crucial issue for the republic and that their participation in the Bosnian state as a whole was dependent on this issue. While Moslem-Croat Federation politicians made statements along the same lines, the decision over the future status of Brcko was continually put off. The decision made March 5 went against the Bosnian-Serb side--at a time when its head of state has been sacked and in the middle of the talks in Rambouillet. The result was predictable: while thousands of Bosnian Serbs demonstrated and NATO vehicles went up in flames, Poplasen and the Bosnian Serb parliament rejected both decisions and announced withdrawal from all Bosnian state institutions. In response, NATO General Secretary Solana together with the US and Great Britain threatened to impose the decisions with force if need be. The irony is that the same parliament which has condemned these decisions as a breach of national sovereignty and the Dayton Accord was, together with Poplasen, voted into power under the rules and supervision of the same powers, who have now dismissed the latter. Bearing in mind that the entire state apparatus in Bosnia was set in place by the Great Powers following air strikes, the conclusion can be drawn that those who now declare they seek to bring peace to Kosovo have already revealed their political bankruptcy in Bosnia. Poplasen, who has declared his readiness to oppose his dismissal with force, belongs to the ultra-right Serb Radical Party (SRP) whose chairman, Seselj, is vice president of Serbia. Poplasen is the product of the policies of Westendorp and his predecessors in office. With the help of NATO troops, the civilian officials designated by the alliance--Westendorp himself bears the title "Supreme Representative"--have governed Bosnia like colonial lords: they regularly proceed against politicians--in particular Serbs--who stand in the way of the realisation of the Dayton Accord. In political conflicts they take the side of those forces which indicate they would co-operate with the West--the most recent example being the Serb nationalist Biljana Plavsic. They control the media, remove uncooperative local mayors and strip parliamentary deputies of their office. They defend the existing social structure which has arisen out of the war--the restoration of capitalism and the disintegration of the Yugoslav state and economy. With the overwhelming majority of the population living in poverty, the existing structure is based on the dominance of former Stalinist bureaucrats, black market traders and war profiteers. This parasitic layer has broken up into rival cliques and factions. It thrives politically on chauvinist demagogy and plays one foreign power off against the other. The suppression of one of these nationalist factions inevitably benefits another faction. Precisely this took place during the last elections in the Bosnian Serb republic. The open partisanship by the Great Powers for politicians who were prepared to work with the West worked like a boomerang--the winner was the nationalist Poplasen. He steadfastly refused to allow the moderate Prime Minister Milorad Dodik to form a government, although Dodik had a majority in parliament. Supreme Representative Westendorp, and in particular the United States, reacted in the way a colonial lord deals with an unruly tribal leader--with Poplasen's arbitrary removal from office. Then came the decision over Brcko.
Re: [CTRL] Necrotizing fasciitus outbreak spreads
-Caveat Lector- March 24, 1999 BY JOEL THURTELL Detroit Free Press Staff Writer Every year, millions of people get strep throat and live. But for 9-year-old Tia Coleman, strep throat led to death. Medical officials have confirmed that the bronchial pneumonia that caused Tia's death was brought on by a streptococcus group A bacterial infection in her blood, said Dr. Carolyn Bird, director of the Oakland County Health Department. While invasive strep A infections of the bloodstream are uncommon, they can be dangerous. They can attack lungs, bones, joints and the brain, said Dr. Basim Asmar, director of the division of Infectious Diseases at Children's Hospital of Michigan in Detroit. The infection is contagious. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta reports between 10,000 and 15,000 invasive strep A cases a year in the United States, with 2,000 deaths. Tia was a fourth-grader at West Maple Elementary School in Bloomfield Hills, where Birmingham public school officials Tuesday sent a letter home to parents assuring them that "no other cases have been reported in the school district." Bird said county health officials are monitoring Birmingham schools for signs of other invasive strep A cases. The school letter warns that parents should seek medical treatment if they "notice fever, sore throat or other respiratory symptoms in their children." Strep normally is treated with penicillin, Asmar said. There were fewer cases of invasive strep A in southeast Michigan this winter. Between Jan. 1 and March 5, there were 17 cases of invasive strep A reported in the counties of Livingston, Macomb, Monroe, Oakland, St. Clair, Washtenaw and Wayne. That was less than half of the 37 cases in 1998 and 38 cases in 1998 for the same period, said Dr. Donald Lawrenchuk, director of the Wayne County Health Department. Sometimes a person with strep throat or impetigo, a strep skin infection, may infect themselves, Bird said. Cuts, wounds or chicken pox sores can provide strep bacteria with an open door to the normally protected bloodstream. In the past 10 years, about 40 cases of invasive strep A have been successfully treated at Children's Hospital, Asmar said. People with cancer, diabetes or kidney disease or those who take steroids are more likely to have an invasive infection, the CDC said. "We emphasize hand-washing and use of Kleenex when you're coughing and sneezing," Bird said. Joel Thurtell can be reached at 1-248-586-2609 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at:
Re: [CTRL] PC Bombshell
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: Lyn McCloskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.zdnet.com/pccomp/stories/reviews/0,5672,391688,00.html ... It turns out that virtually every computer system purchased after March 1996 contains a microphone, and that the IT departments at Polar and other companies had routinely been using special sound- activated software to record and collect conversations. Have you gotten to page 3 yet? The one that says, APRIL FOOL ??? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] KLA Funded By Drug Money
-Caveat Lector- Line March 24 1999 KOSOVO CRISIS Line The KLA Drugs money linked to the Kosovo rebels FROM ROGER BOYES AND ESKE WRIGHT IN BONN THE Kosovo Liberation Army, which has won the support of the West for its guerrilla struggle against the heavy armour of the Serbs, is a Marxist-led force funded by dubious sources, including drug money. That is the judgment of senior police officers across Europe. An investigation by The Times has established that police forces in three Western European countries, together with Europol, the European police authority, are separately investigating growing evidence that drug money is funding the KLA's leap from obscurity to power. The financing of the Kosovo guerrilla war poses critical questions and it sorely tests claims to an "ethical" foreign policy. Should the West back a guerrilla army that appears to be partly financed by organised crime? Could the KLA's need for funds be fuelling the heroin trade across Europe? The KLA has become an essential component of the Kosovo peace agreement; without it, there would be no equal negotiating partner for the Belgrade Government. In military terms, it is in no sense equal to the Serb forces. But it has grown from a theoretical notion to an often successful, very mobile and very visible guerrilla grouping in a remarkably short time. Much of the money funding the KLA is believed to come from legitimate sources - raised by the People's Movement of Kosovo, which is the political wing of the resistance movement. There are about 500,000 Kosovan Albanians in Western Europe who send money back home because it funds healthcare for their cousins. However, some of this cash is believed to be siphoned off for the military. As well as diverting charit-able donations from exiled Kosovans, some of the KLA money is thought to come from drug dealing. Sweden is investigating suspicions of a KLA drug connection. "We have intelligence leading us to believe that there could be a connection between drug money and the Kosovo Liberation Army," said Walter Kege, head of the drug enforcement unit in the Swedish police intelligence service. Supporting intelligence has come from other states. "We have yet to find direct evidence, but our experience tells us that the channels for trading hard drugs are also used for weapons," said one Swiss police commander. An official in the Bavarian Interior Ministry also told The Times of a recent fundraising meeting involving some 200 Kosovans in southern Germany. "At the end of the session they raised DM100,000 [about £40,000]." This represents a huge sum for ordinary Kosovans and fuels speculation that apparently legitimate fundraising activities are used to launder dirty money. One Western intelligence report quoted by Berliner Zeitung says that DM900 million has reached Kosovo since the guerrillas began operations and half the sum is said to be illegal drug money. In particular, European countries are investigating the Albanian connection: whether Kosovan Albanians living primarily in Germany and Switzerland are creaming off the profits from inner-city heroin dealing and sending the cash to the KLA. Albania - which plays a key role in channelling money to the Kosovans - is at the hub of Europe's drug trade. An intelligence report which was prepared by Germany's Federal Criminal Agency concluded: "Ethnic Albanians are now the most prominent group in the distribution of heroin in Western consumer countries." Europol, which is based in The Hague, is preparing a report for European interior and justice ministers on a connection between the KLA and Albanian drug gangs. Police in the Czech Republic recently tracked down a Kosovo Albanian drug dealer named Doboshi who had escaped from a Norwegian prison where he was serving 12 years for heroin trading. A raid on Doboshi's apartment turned up documents linking him with arms purchases for the KLA. Police sources in Germany have made plain their suspicions: the sudden ascendancy of Kosovan Albanians in the heroin trade in Switzerland, Germany and Scandinavia coincides with the sudden growth of the KLA from a ragamuffin peasants' army two years ago to a 30,000-strong force equipped with grenade launchers, anti-tank weapons and AK47s. Next page: The RAF Arts (Mon - Fri) | Books (Sat) (Thu) | British News | Business | Court page | Features (Mon - Fri) | Go (Sat) | Metro (Sat) | Obituaries | Interface (Wed) | Opinion | Sport | Travel (Sat) (Thu) | Vision (Sat) | Weather | Weekend (Sat) | Weekend Money (Sat) | World News [LINK]Down[LINK] Subscribe to the paper Contact Us [LINK] [ISMAP] [ISMAP] [ISMAP] [ISMAP] [ISMAP] [ISMAP] Main story and full links Next page: The
[CTRL] Drugs money linked to the Kosovo rebels
-Caveat Lector- THE Kosovo Liberation Army, which has won the support of the West for its guerrilla struggle against the heavy armour of the Serbs, is a Marxist-led force funded by dubious sources, including drug money. http://www.the-times.co.uk/news/pages/tim/99/03/24/timfgneur01012.html?11240 27 Love: grilling for Gore FROM DAMIAN WHITWORTH IN WASHINGTON POLITICIANS are rarely successful when they mix with pop stars, as Vice-President Al Gore is the latest to learn. Finding himself talking to the controversial rock star Courtney Love at a Hollywood party, Mr. Gore attempted to charm her by telling her he was a fan. Rather than just accepting the easy compliment, Love cross-examined him. "He goes 'I'm a really big fan'," said Love. "And I was like 'Yeah, right. Name a song, Al'." The answer came limply back: "I can't name a song, I'm just a really big fan." Mr. Gore and his wife, Tipper, were the driving forces behind the campaign to make record companies put stickers on records that contained lyrics with sexually explicit content. Love's band, Hole, specializes in drug-addled musings on promiscuity and despair. From the London Times. Also reported in Spin Magazine - Bard Visit me at: The Center for Exposing Corruption in the Federal Government http://www.xld.com/public/center/center.htm Federal Government defined: a benefit/subsidy protection racket! DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] KOSOVO AND METOHIJA - THE HEART OF SERBIA
"We" are on the wrong side. When will the American people wake up? Robert Paul. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.tripod.com/~NorseKnight http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Senate/2897/
Re: [CTRL] PC Bombshell - SPOILER
-Caveat Lector- Forgive me Don!!! Hilary -- From: Don Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] PC Bombshell - SPOILER Date: Wednesday, March 24, 1999 12:25 PM -Caveat Lector- At 10:50 AM 3/24/99 -0700, Hilary A. Thomas wrote: -Caveat Lector- I heard this story was urban legend. Hilary Urban legend my eye..it's an April Fools joke. Let's call a spade a spade. -- http://www.zdnet.com/pccomp/snoopfix/step3.htmlhttp://www.zdnet.com/pccom p/snoopfix/step3.html APRIL FOOLS! But it could happen . . . What a world, huh? Do you really trust your IS department? Your boss? Do you know that they can legally snoop through your e-mail, look at the files on your computer, listen in on your phone calls, check out the Web sites you visit? Is this justified because they own the equipment and they're paying for your time? Or is it an absolute abuse of authority and a violation of your privacy? Do you have any privacy rights at work? Let us know how you feel. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Starr To Indict Bill Clinton?
-Caveat Lector- wHAT ABOUT DRUG SMUGGLING, DRUG USAGE, MURDER, MURDER CONSPIRACY,TREASON-TO NAME A FEW MORE-ALL ALLEGEDLY OF COURSE. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Ex-NFL Player Charged in Sacrificial Slaying
-Caveat Lector- A former National Football League player who admitted to killing seven people in Florida with a black supremacist cult was charged Tuesday with the 1984 sacrificial slaying of a homeless white man. Robert Rozier, 43. is the second person to be charged with the slaying of Attilio Cicala, who was found stabbed eight times in the chest and abdomen outside the cult's temple in Newark, NJ, in 1984. Prosecutors said they believed cult members offered Cicala up as a sacrifice a few days before the cult's leader was to visit Newark. from wire service DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: News - Alert @ 03/24/99
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: InfoBeat [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, March 24, 1999 12:02 PM Subject: News - Alert @ 03/24/99 Alert for Wednesday, March 24, 1999 *** LOOKING FOR A RELIABLE CONTRACTOR, ARCHITECT OR DESIGNER? ImproveNet matches your project needs to a local, prescreened professional, for free! In addition, ImproveNet's site offers design ideas, planning tips, home product news and advice from experts. For more information visit our website at http://www.improvenet.com *** *** NATO bombings under way in Kosovo; Clinton defends attack WASHINGTON (AP) - American and allied warships and bombers Wednesday launched the first wave of airstrikes against Yugoslav targets, as President Clinton cast the confrontation as a stand against "racial, ethnic, religious and cultural" aggression. The decision on when to start the attacks rested with U.S. Army Gen. Wesley Clark, NATO's top commander. NATO Secretary-General Javier Solana gave Clark the formal go-ahead Tuesday evening. See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2558924839-570 *** And: NATO bombings under way in Kosovo, see http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2558924826-4b0 *** PRINT REAL COUPONS FROM YOUR COMPUTER! Visit CoolSavings and join almost 3 million other smart shoppers. Save hundreds of dollars at your favorite stores and online merchants. Clip here now and save! http://www.coolsavings.com/index.asp?Ref=InfobeatBN=text *** - Shop Total E for Music Movies! http://www.totale.com/gateway?A9AAQADD1 Does someone you know deserve flowers? proflowers.com http://www.proflowers.com/index.cfm?REF=IBT_emailbrick Let InfoBeat Classified do your shopping for you http://www.classifieds2000.com/cgi-cls/display.exe?infobeat+class You are subscribed with e-mail address: [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] If you'd like to subscribe to other InfoBeat products or modify your current settings, visit our web site at http://www.infobeat.com. You are subscribed with e-mail address: [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Copyright 1999 Sony Music Entertainment Inc. All rights reserved. InfoBeat is a registered trademark of Sony Music Entertainment, Inc. Copyright 1999 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. InfoBeat Services are for personal use only. Commercial use or redistribution in any form, printed or electronic, is prohibited. - DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [SC] Skeptic News Tuesday #3
-Caveat Lector- On Tue, 23 Mar 1999 23:18:22 -0800, you, "Ric Carter" [EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote: @ Astrology the Kremlin - VENUS/JUPITER CONJUNCTIONS KEY DEVELOPMENTS IN THE FORMER YUGOSLAVIA. The Kremlin, operating underhandedly in cahoots with "former" puppet states like Iraq, Serbia North Korea, is shaping history according to astrology. The megalomaniacal ruling elite in Moscow, Baghdad, Belgrade and Pyongyang believe in astrology and are timing their most important moves accordingly. www.freerepublic.com/forum/a36d520ac146d.htm This site concentrates on Venus/Jupiter conjunctions. But there will be a Venus-Jupiter semisextile on March 25, 10:26am GMT (11:26am local Kosovo time). Stay tuned. -JoAnne DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Yugoslavia?
-Caveat Lector- Since the collapse of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia in the mid-1980's, great confusion has emerged over what to call the rump states which have emerged from the chaos. Slovenia and Croatia are pretty obvious. Aside from them, however, the picture is muddled. "Bosnia" is what historians call "Bosnia-Herzegovina," or is that "Herzegovna?" But then part of Bosnia calls itself "Republika Srpska" (Serb Republic), which is separate from the Republic of Serbia, which is actually most of what's left of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia. The people of Yugoslavia, as it is now, are mostly (about 80 percent) Serbs. This includes Montenegro, which would be independent except it has the only remaining seaport for Yugoslavia, so the Serbs--excuse me, the Yugoslavs (or is that Yugoslavians?)--aren't about to give it up. Serbia also includes, of course, Kosovo, which is mostly "ethnic Albanian" (read "Muslim"), and which was essentially autonomous until 1987, when Yugoslav President Milosevic decided that only Serbs were competent to govern a province of Serbia. Kosovo borders Albania (duh!) and "Macedonia," which is not the same thing as the Macedonia or Macedon that gave birth to Alexander the Great. *That* Macedonia is the northern part of Greece. The Former Yugoslavian Republic of Macedonia, to give it its formally negotiated name, was known as "South Serbia" until Marshal Tito came to power in 1945, whereupon he renamed the province; historically, that region was mostly part of Thrace and Illyria. Yugoslavia itself didn't exist before 1919, when it was created to reward Serbia for being on the winning side in World War One. Croatia, Slovenia, and Bosnia-Herzegovina were carved off the carcass of the old Austro-Hungarian Empire; Montenegro and South Serbia were plucked from the Ottoman (Turkish) Empire. During World War Two, Croatia declared its "independence" as a German vassal state under the vicious rule of the Ustacha; when Croatia again declared independence forty-five years later, it was once again under the (still vicious) rule of the Ustacha. The Yugoslavian resistance to the German occupation was split between the royalist Chetniks and Tito's Communists. Needless to say, the U.S. and British supported the Chetniks; the Soviet Union supported Tito. Tito won out, and the Kingdom of Yugoslavia became the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia. Tito went on to position himself as a "non-aligned" leader, ideologically a pragmatic socialist but also a firm Serbian nationalist. His intention seems to have been to expand to control all of the Balkans, from the Danube to the Aegean and the Black Sea, in a kind of Greater Serbia. In the event, what he succeeded in doing was to create a highly cohesive and at least superficially successful third way between Soviet Marxism-Leninism and Western Democratic Capitalism. Yugoslavia *was* united, as long as Tito ruled in Belgrade. When Tito died, an attempt was made to continue the federal model by rotating the state presidency among the premiers of the several republics. That worked fine, until 1991, when Franjo Tudjman of Croatia rebelled at having Serbia's Slobodan Milosevic take the presidency. Croatia declared its independence, followed immediately by Slovenia; West Germany recognized the new governments, and the remainder of the West followed suit in short order. From that point Yugoslavia descended into brutal civil war, with nationalist rhetoric and personal ambition fueling the worst acts of genocide since the "killing fields" of Cambodia in the 1970's. There were, and are, no good guys in this civil war. Each ethnic group has been responsible for unspeakable atrocities against the others. The rulers and commanders of the various nations and would-be nations, almost without exception, have been little more than criminal gang leaders. To compare *anyone* in "Yugoslavia" to Lincoln or any other major Western leader is absurd. Ultimately, there are two possible ways to approach the Balkans war: either seal off the borders of all of the combatants, a complete cordon sanitaire that allows nothing in or out, and let them duke it out until one kills the other off; or accept that the international community has a responsibility in fact to act as the world's policeman, and must therefore move into the Yugoslav territories in force, disarm everyone, and basically govern them until such time as the locals are finally capable of doing it themselves without coming to blows. Short of that, whoever tries to act as peacemaker in the Balkans, be it the U.S., NATO, the European Union, or the U.N., is doomed to failure. MHO. Bob = Robert F. Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remove "nospam" from the address to reply. NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and
[CTRL] This Land is Our Land
-Caveat Lector- http://www.worldnetdaily.com/ y Joseph Farah and Rep. Richard Pombo, R-CA © 1998 "The moment the idea is admitted into society that property is not as sacred as the laws of God, and that there is not a force of law and public justice to protect it, anarchy and tyranny commence." -- John Adams Imagine you have just purchased a two-bedroom condo in New York City. You had saved money for 10 years to buy it. It is conveniently located, has a beautiful view, and you plan to turn one of the bedrooms into a home office for your consulting business. You paid $300,000 for the condo, but you are thrilled to have it. After signing the check for the down payment, you are all set to move in your furniture, computer, and personal effects. You hear a knock at the door. Two armed agents from the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS) want to talk to you about your condo and your plans to run a consulting business from that second bedroom. You see, your condo has been designated as critical habitat for the endangered Manhattan cockroach. The Manhattan cockroach once roamed freely all over the island of Manhattan, but human activities like the construction of high-rise condominiums, subways, and roads have reduced the habitat of the cockroach by over 98.5 percent. Their numbers have fallen drastically, according to a study done by a New York University graduate student in his apartment on Forty-third Street and Ninth Avenue. Last August, he discovered twenty roaches in a three-hour period. This year he could only locate ten. From this data, he requested that the roach be listed as an endangered species based on a 50 percent reduction in its population. Since no one submitted contrary claims to the FWS, it used this "best available data" and made the listing. As a result, the FWS agents say that your second bedroom must be set aside for the cockroach. You are not allowed to put any furniture, clothes, or computer equipment in that room. You may not vacuum the floor in that room, as you may eliminate the roach's food supply. If you enter the room, you must be careful not to step on, harass, or intimidate any roaches that you might see. Turning on the light suddenly, for instance, frightens the roach and causes it to scurry away. If you do any of these things, it will be considered an unauthorized "taking" of the roach and you will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law -- a year in prison and a $100,000 fine for each harassed roach. In addition to setting aside your second bedroom for the roach, you must also allow for a "migration corridor" through your kitchen so that the roach may move from one habitat (your bedroom) to its next nearest habitat (the bedroom of the family next door). The agents inform you that the family next door used a vacuum cleaner in the roach's habitat, accidentally sucking up five roaches into the vacuum cleaner bag. The FWS brought charges, and when the family fought prosecution in court, the government subpoenaed their tax returns, immigration records, and old car rental receipts to see if they were good citizens. The family soon complied with all the provisions of the Endangered Species Act (ESA). Being a good citizen yourself, you agree to the conditions, believing that you can live in harmony with one of God's creatures. Weeks pass, and you notice that the roaches are not content to remain in their habitat or in their migration corridor, but tend to get up into your grocery shelves. Your children are afraid to move around in the condo and the smell from the second bedroom is getting pretty bad. Since you cannot operate your consulting business from home, you rent office space. But the prices are so high, you soon have to give it up. You decide that your condo is not worth the trouble, and decide to unload it. You go to a real estate agent to put it up for sale, but discover that since your condo was declared a critical habitat for the Manhattan cockroach, no one wants to live there. The best available offer is $25,000 from the Save the Cockroach Association of Manhattan (SCAM). SCAM is a nonprofit organization that buys up cockroach habitat. It bought your next door neighbor's condo for $25,000 and sold it to the federal government the next day for the original pre-habitat price of $300,000. You find this a bit on the unethical side, but just before you take the $275,000 loss, your upstairs neighbor's waterbed bursts and floods your condo, completely annihilating the population of roaches. Believing it to be a sign from heaven, you begin to mop up in order to begin your life anew when you hear a knock at the door. There you find two armed agents of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers. It appears your condo has just been designated a wetland. Sound far-fetched? While admittedly a composite of government abuses and environmental horror stories, events very similar to those above have actually occurred to residents of western states. And while no cockroaches were involved,
[CTRL] Rape?See My Attorney
-Caveat Lector- http://www.worldnetdaily.com/ Rape? See my attorney Joseph Farah How does Bill Clinton explain his problems? Somebody upstairs just doesn't like him, he explained at his latest press conference. His explanation came in response to a question from Sarah McClendon, the biggest nut in the White House press corps. She asked, and I quote: "Sir, will you tell us why you think the people have been so mean to you? Is it a conspiracy? Is it a plan? They have treated you worse than they treated Abe Lincoln!" McClendon may have first-hand knowledge. It seems like she's been around the White House long enough to recall what kind of treatment old Honest Abe received. Here's how Clinton answered: "You know, one of my favorite jokes -- you know, that story about the guy that is walking along the Grand Canyon, and he falls off? And he is falling hundreds of feet to certain death and he reaches out. He sees a little twig on the side of the canyon and he ... grabs it. He takes a ... deep breath, and then all of a sudden he sees the roots of the twig start to come loose. And he looks up in the sky, and he said, 'Lord, why me? Why me? I pay my taxes, I go to work every day; why me? And this thunderous voice says: 'Son, there is just something about you I don't like.'" It was that question and that not-very-funny response that set the stage at last Friday's press conference for Sam Donaldson's grilling about Juanita Broaddrick's rape charge against the president. "Mr. President, when Juanita Broaddrick leveled her charges against you of rape in a nationally televised interview, your attorney, David Kendall, issued a statement denying them. But shouldn't you speak directly on this matter and reassure the public? And if they are not true, can you tell us what your relationship with Mrs. Broaddrick was, if any?" Clinton responded: "Well, five weeks ago today, five weeks ago today, I stood in the Rose Garden after the Senate voted, and I told you that I thought I owed it to the American people to give them 100 percent of my time and to focus on their business, and that I would leave it to others to decide whether they would follow that lead. And that is why I have decided, as soon as that vote was over, that I would allow all future questions to be answered by my attorneys. And I think the American people do understand it and support it, and I think it was the right decision." Donaldson: "Can you not simply deny it, sir?" Clinton: "There's been a statement made by my attorney. He speaks for me, and I think he spoke quite clearly." And that's how Clinton dealt with the only rape charge ever leveled against a sitting U.S. president. Maybe it's time to review Kendall's "clear" response to Broaddrick's charge. "Any allegation that the president assaulted Mrs. Broaddrick more than 20 years ago is absolutely false." Is that clear enough for you? Actually, it's not even a straightforward denial. Instead, it is more legalistic parsing of words. Why did Kendall use the word "any" when the question on the table is about one very specific allegation? The fifth word of the statement -- "president" -- is also noteworthy. Of course, no one, including Mrs. Broaddrick, suggests Bill Clinton was president at the time of the assault. And no one suggests the president at the time of the crime, Jimmy Carter, was responsible for the attack. Notice that Kendall's statement refers to the victim as Mrs. Broaddrick. Of course, in 1978, when she was raped in a hotel room, her name was not Mrs. Broaddrick. So here's another possible lawyerly hairsplitting technicality. So, the question remains, why won't Clinton address this important allegation? The answer is: Because the White House press corps and Congress won't force him to answer it. They have let him off the hook. Clinton beat the rap on perjury and obstruction of justice, so he won't be held accountable for rape. Can you live with that America? And, under the circumstances, can you trust this man to deal honestly and forthrightly with bigger, national-security issues such as the theft of nuclear secrets by the Chinese? A daily radio broadcast adaptation of Joseph Farah's commentaries can be heard at http://www.ktkz.com/ E-MAIL JOSEPH FARAH | GO TO 'BET DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.
Re: [CTRL] Yugoslavia?
-Caveat Lector- The Daili Lama may have the right idea. Do nothing And then, eventually someone else will foot the bill and do your fighting or you. I liked Clinton better when he was preoccupied chasing women. China - they have more to fear from the USA, than we do from them. Japan, that tiny little country, beat China in a war. Well.you will know when war is imminent; check Wall Street - watch Schlumber-ger Munitions, etc.the rise and fall of the market. Cui Bono - DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] CTRL] Fw: AANEWS for Wed, March 17, 1999 [sorry for the delay]]
-Caveat Lector- Ric Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Hey, everybody: Are Murkans really "too sinful to be trusted with liberty" ?? Should fundy jeezoids withdraw from secular society? Would the anti-commie, anti-capitalist Pope be happier with a system like the old days, when Princes Of The Church ran sacred AND secular affairs? Do your belief- system leaders, your Game Masters, have the moral authority to trash democracy and establish a Religious Republic? Do you like theocracy? Are fundy conspiracies more vibrant than the old Vatican conspiracy? The issue is not whether Americans are too sinful to be trusted with liberty. Liberty is not a religious concept but a political one. The real issue for the churches (not just the fundamentalist ones) is that no one is listening to them any more. Church for Americans is a social function, not a moral one. We go to church to socialize with our friends; we like our clergy to entertain us; we change churches the way we change cars, depending on whether we like the organist or the pews... The churches had better "listen to what the Spirit is saying to the churches" (Rev. something). When clergy start talking about morality in government, my invariable answer is that this means they aren't getting through to people at large and want to use government to enforce their own theological viewpoint. So kids are using dope, sleeping around, and listening to loud music? Instead of looking at themselves and asking why the kids aren't hearing what they're saying, the clergy, in knee-jerk fashion, turn to the politicians and cry, "Bring prayer back to our schools!" The fault, dear Brutus, lies not in our stars, but in our selves... And sin is in the heart of the beholder. Let him who is without sin cast the first stone. (And please remember that none of the Pharisees felt able to continue stoning the woman taken in adultery...) Or, to put it another way, RTFM! ;^) Bob = Robert F. Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remove "nospam" from the address to reply. NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml POSTING THIS MESSAGE TO THE INTERNET DOES NOT IMPLY PERMISSION TO SEND UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL E-MAIL (SPAM) TO THIS OR ANY OTHER INTERNET ADDRESS. RECEIPT OF SPAM WILL RESULT IN IMMEDIATE NOTIFICATION OF THE SENDER'S ISP. Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Statement from Serb Unity Congress
-Caveat Lector- From Serb Unity Congress http://www.suc.org No. 05/99 CONTACT: VOJIN JOKSIMOVICH (760) 781 3887 March 24, 1999 SERBIAN UNITY CONGRESS STATEMENT REJECTS BOMBING AND AGGRESSION, APPEALS FOR PEACE On 24 March, 1999 Vojin Joksimovich, Director for Foreign Affairs of the Serbian Unity Congress, issued the following statement condemning NATO military action against Yugoslavia and appealing for a commitment by all sides to peace: "This is one of the darkest days in the recent history of the United States. As Serb Americans we feel a deep sense of shame that our country is resorting to the tactics of aggression and extortion more normally associated with totalitarianism and fascism. The blood of innocent lives will be on the consciences of our nation's leaders. Serbia is a sovereign country. It has never in the past and does not in the present represent a threat of any kind to the U.S. To the contrary in the two world wars of this century it has stood shoulder to shoulder with the U.S. For the U.S. to attack Serbia in these circumstances is an affront to all American values, principles, and morality. The attack on Serbia violates international law as framed by the United Nations charter, the NATO Treaty and the Helsinki Accords Final Act. NATO's action constitutes unilateral aggression. It lacks UN Security Council authorization for the clear reason that it would attract a veto in that body. NATO's claim to be acting on behalf of the international community is null and void. Beyond being immoral and illegal, NATO's attack will gravely damage U.S. national interests: * The action effectively puts the U.S. on the same side as terrorists and separatists. This will seriously undermine U.S. anti-terrorists efforts elsewhere in the world; * The U.S. is using double standards and selective moral indignation. Having assisted the ethnic cleansing of 250,000 Serbs in Croatia from their ancestral lands, 100,000 from Sarajevo and doing nothing about the tragedy of the Kurdish people under Turkish oppression, the reasons offered for the attack on Serbia are deceitful, disingenuous and dishonorable. * The action will worsen the humanitarian tragedy in Kosovo; * The risks of regional war have greatly increased, as events in Macedonia already demonstrate; and * The geostrategic relationship with Russia is at risk. The SUC supports peace and reconciliation in Kosovo. True negotiations must be allowed to start without the threat of force. The interfaith meeting in Vienna on March 18 between leaders of the Catholic, Muslim, Jewish and Orthodox faiths show that the opportunities for peace are far from been exhausted. We call upon the Administration to order an immediate halt to this immoral, illegal and counterproductive military action and return without delay to the negotiating table." _ S.U.C. Central Office, Phone (707) 258 8623, Fax (707) 224 6593 S.U.C. Belgrade Office, Phone/Fax 11 624 129 About S.U.C. | News Page | Home [RETURN] Copyright © 1996-99 Serbian Unity Congress. All Rights Reserved. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Yugoslav Tinderbox Explodes! (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- YUGOSLAV TINDERBOX EXPLODES! (CNNS, 03/24/99) -- News is breaking hot and heavy from Yugoslavia. Amidst an avalanche of new information, this news service is deadlined to go to press due to the frenzy of reports following the illegal NATO attack on the sovereign nation of Yugoslavia. With the CNN (Cable News Network) anti-Serb propaganda machine now kicked into overdrive; with U.S. politicians and bureaucrats falling over each other in their rush to overwhelm the American public with a barrage of lies; this news service must rush to press and offer counterpoint to the tidal wave of mistruth being unleashed upon the American public. Under deadline pressure, CNNS gives against-the-tide facts which counter-act a mass media flood of misinformation. As the dust settles, the situation will become clearer. In the meantime, here is the developing picture of what is really happening. (1) An amazing circumstance is that many American citizens automatically extend credibility to mainstream news outlets, even at this late date, when those same news outlets have repeatedly been shown up as routine liars. (2) A further amazing circumstance is that many American citizens automatically extend credibility to U.S. politicians and high-level bureaucrats, even at this late date, when those same persons have repeatedly been shown up as routine liars. (3) Numerous reports that the "Kosovo Liberation Army" (KLA) is funded by the sale and distribution of illegal narcotics have surfaced. (See, for example, "Diving Into the Kosovo Quagmire," by William Norman Grigg. New American magazine, 3/15/99.) Information in Grigg's article (op. cit.) shows that the KLA is financially supported, besides via heroin sales and distribution, by Osama bin Laden, a reputed Islamic terrorist leader. Also reportedly "arming and supporting" the KLA is the nation of Iran. (Grigg, op. cit.) Yet in the strange world of *realpolitik*, the USA now has lent its muscle to the heroin/bin Laden/Iranian KLA. (4) This news service contacted Mr. Andrew B. Spiegel, an attorney knowledgeable about the Yugoslavian situation. CNNS asked Mr. Spiegel, General Counsel to the Pavlovic Peace Delegation, "Why on earth does NATO have such a profound interest in Yugoslavian internal affairs?" Spiegel offered a cynical interpretation. "Is it oil?" asked CNNS. Spiegel responded that his fears are that the true motivation behind the ongoing Yugoslav crisis is based on control of the lucrative supply of narcotics flowing through the region. A similar situation may have motivated the Vietnam War, according to Mark Sato, a former associate of Sherman Skolnick of the Citizens' Committee to Clean Up the Courts. According to Sato, the basis for the Vietnam War was a battle for control of the notorious "Golden Triangle" region of southeast Asia. (The naive believe that the NATO onslaught is based on "humanitarian" concerns. The wise are dissuaded from this caviling by grim national realities. Humanitarian concerns begin at home!) (5) Contacted by this news service, Mr. Skolnick, a veteran researcher into subrosa U.S. politics, expressed anxiety that the now-exploding Yugoslav tinderbox is chain-reacting into a repeat of the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis, a dangerous showdown between the U.S. and Russia. Preliminary reports given to Skolnick by his various sources indicate that a portion of the Russian navy is now enroute from the Black Sea, through the straits of Bosphorus, and into the Mediterranean, on their way to the Yugoslav area. Skolnick has received one report from a highly placed source that military brass in the United Kingdom have gone, literally, underground, intosecurefacilities, safeguarding themselves in the event of nuclear holocaust. (6) According to Mr. Spiegel, Christiane Amanpour apparently has received $1 million from Muslim/Arab sources in return for her biased, drum-beat reportage on the Yugoslav crisis. Immediate confirmation of this report is not available at press time, but Mr. Spiegel says the alleged Amanpour payoff has previously been reported elsewhere, possibly by the Serb Unity Congress (www.suc.org) (7) Unconfirmed at press time: that the Federation of American Scientists has listed the KLA as a terrorist organization. (8) According to Mr. Spiegel, mainstream reports claiming a Serb policy of "ethnic cleansing" are "absurd." This was confirmed by a high ranking Serb official who, today, on CNN, emphatically denied any such genocidal policies. Yes, Kosovo terrorists and members of the KLA are being fought, but no civilians are or have been targeted. (9) Additional motivation for the NATO rain of terror may be connected with legal troubles being
[CTRL] KLA drug financed. By CIA perhaps?
-Caveat Lector- March 24 1999 KOSOVO CRISIS The KLA Drugs money linked to the Kosovo rebels FROM ROGER BOYES AND ESKE WRIGHT IN BONN THE Kosovo Liberation Army, which has won the support of the West for its guerrilla struggle against the heavy armour of the Serbs, is a Marxist-led force funded by dubious sources, including drug money. That is the judgment of senior police officers across Europe. An investigation by The Times has established that police forces in three Western European countries, together with Europol, the European police authority, are separately investigating growing evidence that drug money is funding the KLA's leap from obscurity to power. The financing of the Kosovo guerrilla war poses critical questions and it sorely tests claims to an "ethical" foreign policy. Should the West back a guerrilla army that appears to be partly financed by organised crime? Could the KLA's need for funds be fuelling the heroin trade across Europe? The KLA has become an essential component of the Kosovo peace agreement; without it, there would be no equal negotiating partner for the Belgrade Government. In military terms, it is in no sense equal to the Serb forces. But it has grown from a theoretical notion to an often successful, very mobile and very visible guerrilla grouping in a remarkably short time. Much of the money funding the KLA is believed to come from legitimate sources - raised by the People's Movement of Kosovo, which is the political wing of the resistance movement. There are about 500,000 Kosovan Albanians in Western Europe who send money back home because it funds healthcare for their cousins. However, some of this cash is believed to be siphoned off for the military. As well as diverting charit-able donations from exiled Kosovans, some of the KLA money is thought to come from drug dealing. Sweden is investigating suspicions of a KLA drug connection. "We have intelligence leading us to believe that there could be a connection between drug money and the Kosovo Liberation Army," said Walter Kege, head of the drug enforcement unit in the Swedish police intelligence service. Supporting intelligence has come from other states. "We have yet to find direct evidence, but our experience tells us that the channels for trading hard drugs are also used for weapons," said one Swiss police commander. An official in the Bavarian Interior Ministry also told The Times of a recent fundraising meeting involving some 200 Kosovans in southern Germany. "At the end of the session they raised DM100,000 [about £40,000]." This represents a huge sum for ordinary Kosovans and fuels speculation that apparently legitimate fundraising activities are used to launder dirty money. One Western intelligence report quoted by Berliner Zeitung says that DM900 million has reached Kosovo since the guerrillas began operations and half the sum is said to be illegal drug money. In particular, European countries are investigating the Albanian connection: whether Kosovan Albanians living primarily in Germany and Switzerland are creaming off the profits from inner-city heroin dealing and sending the cash to the KLA. Albania - which plays a key role in channelling money to the Kosovans - is at the hub of Europe's drug trade. An intelligence report which was prepared by Germany's Federal Criminal Agency concluded: "Ethnic Albanians are now the most prominent group in the distribution of heroin in Western consumer countries." Europol, which is based in The Hague, is preparing a report for European interior and justice ministers on a connection between the KLA and Albanian drug gangs. Police in the Czech Republic recently tracked down a Kosovo Albanian drug dealer named Doboshi who had escaped from a Norwegian prison where he was serving 12 years for heroin trading. A raid on Doboshi's apartment turned up documents linking him with arms purchases for the KLA. Police sources in Germany have made plain their suspicions: the sudden ascendancy of Kosovan Albanians in the heroin trade in Switzerland, Germany and Scandinavia coincides with the sudden growth of the KLA from a ragamuffin peasants' army two years ago to a 30,000-strong force equipped with grenade launchers, anti-tank weapons and AK47s. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to
[CTRL] Who needs Albanians? Tribalism in America.
-Caveat Lector- Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 03:32:21 -0800 (PST) From: "Cynthia A. McKinney" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Moderator: Taken directly from the web site] http://www.eden.com/~reporter/4.96.McKinney.html April 1996 ESSAY: A democracy voters can be proud of by U.S. Rep. Cynthia A. McKinney One positive development to come out of the Supreme Court's narrow 5 to 4 decision striking down my majority-black district, is the broader discussion it has sparked regarding the way we elect members of Congress in general. Low voter turnout, distrust of elected officials, the term-limits movement, and the increasing desire for a third party are all strong indications that Americans are no longer satisfied with our representative democracy as practiced through the winnertakes-all assumption. As majority-minority districts across America are targeted for dismantling, many are discovering that oddly shaped super-majority white districts are quite common as well, yet remain unchallenged. This apparent double standard is an indication that the entire method by which we draw congressional districts is flawed. It is important to remember that majority-minority districts exist only because our winner-takes-all assumption makes it inherently more difficult for African Americans to have representation, due to racial block voting-particularly in the South. Four hundred years of slavery, segregation and discrimination have, without a doubt, created a set of circumstances and interests unique to African Americans. Such interests can rarely be reflected in public policy as long as simple majorities are required to control state power. If we remain wedded to a system which does not employ proportional voting, majority-minority districts will continue to be necessary in order for African-Americans to have a stake in our polity. Out of all the democracies in the world, only four--including the United States--still rely on the winner-takes-all method of electing public officials. The rest of the world's democracies have discovered that giving 100% of the state's power to the candidate who can secure 50% of the vote plus one, is not equitable. In its present form, our winner-takes-all assumption -- manifested through a system of single-member districts -- limits voter choice. More often than not, Americans find themselves going to the polls to vote against someone rather than for a particular candidate. Our current method of electing political leaders lumps a wide range of issues into one platform, forcing voters to cast their only vote in favor of someone who they nominally support on a few issues. I am sponsoring legislation which repeals the 1967 federal statute requiring states to draw single-member congressional districts. This law was intended to prevent the use of at-large districts, which were routinely employed in the South to dilute black voting strength. However, multi-member districts used in conjunction with cumulative voting, preference voting or limited voting, not only preserve the voting strength of racial and political minorities, but increase choices for voters. Under these three voting methods, voters would have several votes to cast. Moreover, they would be electing more than one officeholder to represent them in the U.S. House of Representatives (unlike the current system whereby citizens have only one representative in the lower chamber). If, for example, you liked one candidate's position on taxes and another candidate's position on abortion, you could vote for both and conceivably see both elected. By the same token, you would have the choice of casting all your votes for one candidate-the choice is yours. Such a system would necessarily encourage independent candidates to run, since winning would become more feasible. There is nothing in the constitution which requires us to continue with a winner-takes-all assumption, practiced through single-member districts. In fact, some of these alternative voting methods are currently used in a number of municipalities and counties across the United States. Cynicism in our political system is at an all-time high while voter turnouts are at record lows. Campaign finance reform and lobby reform are steps in the right direction, yet only solve part of the problem. Americans are a diverse people with diverse interests - how is it that most of us only have two choices on election day? After the next census, states across the nation will grapple with the Voting Rights Act, and how best to maintain the integrity of black voting strength in the context of the Supreme Court's redistricting decision. However, trimming majority-minority districts will not cure the underlying problem which made these districts necessary in the first place. Such maneuvering will only serve to reinforce suspicions that the shape of some majority-minority districts is being used as a pretext to remove African-American legislators
[CTRL] Is Clinton a secret necrophiliac? Let's see...
-Caveat Lector- (Taken from http://abcnews.go.com/sections/science/DailyNews/incamummy990323.html q.v.) The mummy is the well-preserved body of a 12- to-14-year-old girl sacrificed to the Inca gods The girls face and body were so well preserved the mummy caught the eye of President Clinton at a 1996 fund-raiser in Stamford, Connecticut. "But you know, if I were a single man I might ask that mummy out. Thats a good-looking mummy!" Clinton said. Peruvian scientists called his comments tasteless. === So now one can understand why he married Hillary. ;) Joshua2 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] SUMERIA needs help!!
-Caveat Lector- Seems Sumeria may be out of it after April unless someone can help out with a web sponsor. Please take a moment to visit the site (http://www.livelinks.com/sumeria) and see what it is all about. It is an excellent site for alternative medicine and conspiracy related stuff. If anyone would like to help out with it instructions are copied below and available on site. Teo1000 New beginnings are in store for Sumeria! Due to circumstances beyond the ability of us mere mortals to control, Sumeria is losing its space in the LiveLinks domain in April. Thanks are certainly due to Sir Richard of LiveLInks for his years of steadfast friendship. It's been a great run dude! Now, down to the nitty gritty: If someone reading this has, or knows someone who has server space to contribute for Sumeria, please send me email. Thanks are due to those who have supported me in my efforts with the site, especially those who have contributed material. You have helped me to continue during those times when i began to wonder if the effort was worth it. Thanks also to those who have flamed my efforts over the years via email, etc. Your input, though negative, has also been of value. I do wish more of you had been braver than to do so anonymously, thus eliminating the possibility of rational dialog between us. Excerpt from the short book "E.T. 101: The Cosmic Instruction Manual, an Emergency Remedial edition", Co-created by Mission Control Diana Luppi, ISBN 0-9626958-0-7 Innocent Victims of the 'Drug War' The Gestapo spirit is alive and well on the Canada/U.S. border. 4/3/98 UN General Assembly Special Session PrepCom Meeting: Analysis March 16-18, 1998. Within three months, the United Nations' General Assembly's Special Session on Drugs will take place in New York. Those of us who had the opportunity to participate in the Preparatory Conference held by the UN Narcotic Drugs Commission in Vienna around the midth of May, were able to receive a first impression of what this UNGASS will contribute to the principles of the global drugs control policy at the start of the next milennium. Before going to Vienna, we already knew that no pleasant surprise would be awaiting us. But we did not count on the fact that the experience would turn out to be terrifying. It is hard to find another word that describes the sensation one has when learning of the new plan that UNDCP's Executive Secretary, Italian Pino Arlacchi presented in Vienna to 'Eliminate coca and opium cultivation' in the next 10 years. [ Continued ] The Appendix to Drugs in American Society, by Erich Goode, Professor of Sociology at the State University of New York at Stony Brook. copyright 1972 Alfred A. Knopf Mexican Government Violates Religious Rights of Indigenous People. HIV Test is a Fraud, by Gary Null, host of Natural Living, WBAI Radio, New York City -- Portion of broadcast which aired 3/21/96. Fascism in Medicine by Gary Null, Ph.D. A speech given May 15, 1994 at a forum on Democracy and Fascism. Broadcast June 6, 1994 on Radio WBAI-FM, New York. Human Rights, Human Rites, a review by Peter Webster, takes a look at two new books: Crack in America: Demon Drugs and Social Justice Craig Reinarman and Harry G. Levine, editors University of California Press, 1997 ISBN 0-520-20241-4 In Search of Respect: Selling Crack in el Barrio Philippe Bourgois Cambridge University Press, 1995 ISBN 0-521-43518-8 From The Boston Globe: Study May Undercut Marijuana Opponents - Report Says THC Did Not Cause Cancer. The Mind is a Terrible Thing to Waste: The Brainwashing of AIDS, by Stephen C. Byrnes DEA finally confirms the existence of sufficient grounds to remove Marijuana from hard drugs schedule of controlled substances, refers Marijuana Rescheduling Petition to HHS 1/9/98 -- War on Patients to Escalate: Federal Government Announces Plan to Raid Cannabis Buyers' Clubs. HIV Antibodies: Further Questions and a Plea for Clarification Eleni Papadopulos-Eleopulos Valendar F.Turner John M Papadimitriou Gordon Stewart David Causer This may seem a little strange but I feel compelled to break with tradition and provide a link to an offsite page here. The link is to the book "Ain't Nobody's Business if You Do," by Peter McWilliams which has graciously been published online by the author free of charge even though the paperback version is available for purchase. Mr. McWilliams deserves our support so I urge Sumeria's readers to make the purchase if at all possible. Mr. McWilliams powerfully, and occasionally humorously, exposes the arrogance and hipocrisy demonstrated by American politicians and bureaucrats, spurred on by zealots of the religious right [wrong], in creating and enforcing consensual crime laws. That I do not always agree with the author (on AIDS, for instance) in no way diminishes the overall validity of the book. I found the chapter "What Jesus and the Bible Really Said about Consensual Crimes" to be
Re: [CTRL] SUMERIA needs help!!
-Caveat Lector- This is a shame; how does one promote a site like his. I had never heard of it before; it is really good. He ought to hope aboard Mothership DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] PC Bombshell
-Caveat Lector- Yes, but was the person who told you that it was an "urban legend" telling an "urban legend"? Howard Davis "Hilary A. Thomas" wrote: -Caveat Lector- I heard this story was urban legend. Hilary -- From: Lyn McCloskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] PC Bombshell Date: Wednesday, March 24, 1999 10:32 AM -Caveat Lector- http://www.zdnet.com/pccomp/stories/reviews/0,5672,391688,00.html Bombshell Paul Somerson, PC Computing March 3, 1999 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
