[CTRL] Waco Child Abuse Excuse Redux
When Reno uses the Child Abuse excuse destruction follows. - Waco Child Abuse Excuse Redux Jack Thompson April 18, 2000 11:20 AM Here we go again. Monday evening the Reno Justice Department trotted out an INS pediatric psychologist, Dr. Irwin Redlener, who maintains that he can tell by observing Elian from afar that the boy is being "psychologically abused" by his Miami relatives and that the boy must be rescued from the Miami relatives to end the abuse. This is useful to Reno who used a later-disproven allegation of child abuse as the basis to storm the Branch Davidian compound in Waco. Reno herself admitted at congressional oversight hearings that she had no proof of such abuse nor did she at the time of the incursion. The absurdity of this ploy is that the Miami relatives have begged Reno for months to have her team of psychologists examine the boy to determine if anyone has abused the boy. Either the father, when we was around the boy, or, possibly, the Miami relatives, while he has been in their care. Reno refuses to do that, because she is afraid, clearly, of what she may find. Yet she pioneered the technique, in the 1980s here in Miami, as reported days ago at NewsMax.com, of using child psychologists to examine abused children. ABC television made a movie about it called Unspeakable Acts. Reno was the hero of the show, using the husband and wife child psychologists, the Drs. Braga, to determine there was abuse. This reporter has shared all this at 10:30 a.m. Tuesday with Ramon Saul Sanchez, who plans to communicate to the media the family's urgent plea again that the boy be examined to determine who has abused whom. Waco revisited, right down to the child abuse allegations coming out of the Justice Department. Bring in the fire trucks. -end article- *[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Patriot Resource Center: http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/6627/ Online Patriot Internet Radio: http://www.geocities.com/aresister_2000/ **Live Free or Die!* A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] assorted resources
Hi ! Here are some resources I have collected recently. Sincerely, Neil Brick Please note: Listing of these resources does not necessarily constitute our endorsement of them. They are for educational value only and some may be triggering. Please also note. Some of the conferences listed may not necessarily be safe for all survivors. I recommend always bringing a support person to all conferences. If you are a survivor of mind control and/or ritual abuse, I recommend that you try to bring a support person that is familiar with mind control techniques. Survivor Resources The pro-survivor news list is for those interested in receiving information about resources and research to help those recovering from ritual abuse and mind control. This list is for those that believe in the existence of recovered memory, mind control and ritual abuse. This is not a list for survivor support or sharing survivor stories and/or issues. Anyone with an acceptable user name will be able to become a member. However, posts will be moderated. This will be a public list with archives. To subscribe, go to http://www.onelist.com/subscribe/psnews or write [EMAIL PROTECTED], questions write [EMAIL PROTECTED] Survivorship and Bay Area Women Against Rape present: Honoring Your Story - Easing Your Journey, 5/6/00, Preservation Park - Oakland, California. A full-day conference for survivors of ritual abuse, sadistic sexual abuse, mind control and torture, pro-survivors, partners, friends and family members traveling beside them on the healing path Speakers: Terry Popp PhD, Judy Dragon, Vercilla Chacon LICSW, For info, etc. Survivorship, PMB 139, 3181 Mission St., San Francisco, CA 94110-4515, E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linkup's 8th National Healing Conference for victims of clergy sexual abuse, 9/15 - 17/00, Chicago. For info: LINKUP, 1412 W. Argyle St. #2, Chicago, IL 60640 MCS Special - Support Sexual Abuse of Males has a list of links and books for male survivors at http://www.special-support.com/abuse/sexual_and_assault/males.html This site also has phone numbers for survivors in the Chicago area and books for rape and incest survivors. Partnerships for Survival (a nonprofit education/support organization dedicated to improving the lives of survivors of childhood incest and sexual abuse) is having a film benefit May 21, "Little Man," (an aging minor league baseball player returns to his hometown and comes face to face with the coach who abused him many years earlier.) Cinema Arts Centre in Huntington, with Howard Libov, film's director and Laura A. Ahearn, Exec. Dir. of Parents for Megan's Law, For info.: Carol Forgash at 631-265-7202, E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], PFS, 353 N.Country Road, Smithtown, NY 11787 Research Articles This may be triggering for survivors. MKULTRA Documents - "In June 1977, a rare cache of MKULTRA documents were discovered, which had escaped destruction by the CIA. The Senate Select Committee on Intelligence held a hearing on August 3, 1977, to question CIA officials on the newly-discovered documents. The complete 171-page record is included here, including testimony and dozens of MKULTRA documents on various subprojects." http://209.207.141.249/ds/mkultradocs.htm By listing this resource, I am not necessarily recommending the use of this person's products. As always, please use caution when checking out new resources. "The Battle for Your Mind Persuasion Brainwashing Techniques Being Used On The Public Today" by Dick Sutphen" "On numerous occasions, the information has helped to bring public attention to the misuse of conversion tactics. Some government agencies don't want this information generally known, for the techniques are used in armed forces basic training. Some Christian Fundamentalists, cults, and human-potential trainings would also prefer that the public remain unaware of how they are recruiting new members." http://www.sutphenpublishing.com/articles/battle.htm "How and why mind programming works" by Dick Sutphen. This article discusses brain wave states. It may be triggering. http://www.sutphenpublishing.com/articles/howmind.htm Valley of the Sun Publishing, Box 38, Malibu, CA 90265, 1-800-421-6603 Ground Lost: The False Memory/Recovered Memory Therapy Debate, by Alan Scheflin, Psychiatric Times 11/99, Vol. XVI Issue 11, "Does repressed memory exist? Although courts and legislatures use the term repressed memory, the proper term is dissociative amnesia. This is the definition that appears in the DSM-IV, section 300.12: "Dissociative amnesia is characterized by an inability to recall important personal information, usually of a traumatic or stressful nature, that is too extensive to be explained by ordinary forgetfulness." "The appearance in the DSM-IV indicates that the concept of repressed memory is generally accepted in the relevant scientific community. This satisfies courts following the Frye v United States, 293 F.1013 (1923) or Daubert v Merrell Dow Pharmaceutical, 113 S.
Re: [CTRL] **** !!Forum Administrator?
I might suggest consulting George Carlin on this one. He seems to have done some extensive research on the various uses and meanings of the word in its myriad contextual senses. Given George's history and grammar perspective is mostly devoted to utilisation in speech, such terms tend to lose quite a bit of their meaning when put merely in print, virtual or physical. It becomes less a matter of judging one against another than it is to just casually use terms and words thereby making them superfluous. Leaving such terms out of public view (keeping them private, i.e.) is elimination in and of itself, avoiding unnecessary material waste and time as well as what is meant. AER That is, some ... are more equal than other ...? AER ~~~ Integrity has no need of rules. -Albert Camus (1913-1960) + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your common sense." --Buddha + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + It is preoccupation with possessions, more than anything else, that prevents us from living freely and nobly. -Bertrand Russell + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "Everyone has the right...to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers." Universal Declaration of Human Rights + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut." Ernest Hemingway + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Forwarded as information only; no endorsement to be presumed + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Britland Aglow
From www.wsws.org WSWS : News Analysis : Europe : Britain Irish government edges towards legal action against Britain's Sellafield nuclear plant By Steve James 19 April 2000 Back to screen version The Irish government is reluctantly edging towards taking legal moves against the British Sellafield nuclear site. A series of health and radiation surveys have pointed to Sellafield being an ongoing health hazard for people living in much of Ireland, as it is to those living and working near the site. All liquid waste discharged from the plant ends up in the Irish Sea and nuclear waste is also transported across it. A serious accident at Sellafield could shower Ireland with radioactive fallout. Last week, Joe Jacob, Minister for Energy in the Fianna Fail-led coalition government, instructed the Irish Attorney General to investigate the possibility of taking legal action against British Nuclear Fuels Ltd (BNFL) to force Sellafield's closure. Ireland is also collaborating with the Norwegian and Icelandic governments to indict Britain under the terms of maritime anti- pollution treaties. The move follows years in which the Irish government has verbally opposed the Sellafield plant, particularly its recent expansion into the reprocessing of nuclear fuel. Should any case go ahead it would be a further serious blow to the crisis-ridden state-owned BNFL. In 1997, the Radiological Protection Institute of Ireland announced that reports monitoring fallout over Ireland from a 1957 accident at Sellafield (then called Windscale) were never included in the final data recording the fallout pattern from a nuclear fire. Eddie McGrady, Social Democratic and Labour Party (SDLP) MP in the British parliament at Westminster for the Northern Ireland constituency of South Down, has long opposed Sellafield. According to McGrady, a full fallout survey was never completed. Anecdotal evidence compiled since suggests a variety of health impacts of radiation spread following the 1957 fire. A 1998 survey by the Green Audit Irish Sea Research Group, undertaken after a lack of comprehensive data undermined a court case brought by private individuals against BNFL, focussed on coastal areas in Wales believed to be affected similarly to the Irish coast. There are no national cancer statistics maintained in Ireland. The Welsh survey revealed that between 1974 and 1989 children living close to the Irish Sea were on average 4.6 times more likely to contract leukaemia. The statistics also showed a reduction in risk as the distance from the seashore increased. The suggestion was that, with high levels of radionuclides in the Irish Sea, seashore spray could carry radioactive particles several kilometres inland. The Irish Times ran an interview in 1999 with Alan Mullen (aged 41) who was dying from kidney, prostate, stomach and liver cancers, normally only seen in much older men. Born at the time of the 1957 fire, Mullen comes from Louth, Dundalk, which is just 60 miles from Sellafield. The area has a cancer rate 12 percent higher than the Irish average. Out of a population of only 3,000, 76 died of cancer over a three-year period. Mullen called for the entire Louth district to be classified as an environmental disaster area. In 1997, a British Department of Health survey found plutonium in the teeth of some 3,000 teenagers in Britain and Ireland. The quantity varied inversely according to how close the young people lived to Sellafield. This toxic and highly radioactive substance could only have come from Sellafield, either by airborne particles, or spray. Once inside the teeth, the plutonium stays there. The survey suggested that the plutonium was most likely ingested by the teenagers when they were very young. While emissions from the plant fell somewhat in the late 70s and 80s, the advent of reprocessing at the THORP plant in Sellafield has led to a dramatic increase in levels of technetium 99another toxic radio nuclidein the Irish Sea. Levels of krypton 85, a radioactive gas monitored since 1993 and also associated with reprocessing, have also been rising. In 1994, a group of Louth residents tried to take BNFL and the Irish government to court over Sellafield. The latter was included for having failed to take adequate efforts to prevent the THORP plant from opening. The basis of the Louth case was that Sellafield was causing medical and economic harm to people in the area. In 1996 the Irish Supreme Court granted the group leave to proceed with their case. In 1997, following the election of Fianna Fail, the government came to an agreement with the Louth residents. In return for providing limited financial backingabout £200,000the group would drop its case against the Irish government and focus on BNFL. Fianna Fail hoped in this way to defuse the broad- based anger the Louth campaign represented, without embarking on any politically difficult confrontation with the British government. In the intervening three years, the British
Re: [CTRL] **** !!Forum Administrator?
I did not so much decry the word and its value, or lack thereof - as ask i did question the apparent double standard? ~~~ Integrity has no need of rules. -Albert Camus (1913-1960) Except Camoo's - obviously? + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust If the latter do not desire the former - then what is the purpose? + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your common sense." --Buddha Pure Humanistic twaddle - a Buddhist once said he believed in neither "good nor evil" - it was then proposed that a hot pot of boiled water be placed above his head - since their was no good or evil in the enlightened ones "common sense" - it was then suggested that the hot water be poured on his head - the room was quickly vacated by the holy man! To many Nazi's, the Holocaust was reasonable and commonse sense affair - was it not? + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + It is preoccupation with possessions, more than anything else, that prevents us from living freely and nobly. -Bertrand Russell Russell was wont to pompously bleat his religion of atheism - here, he seems to plagiarise the bible- "the LOVE of money (possessions) is the root of all evil" without apparent qualm. + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "Everyone has the right...to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers." Universal Declaration of Human Rights + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Depends who is IN CHARGE of your version of "human rights" - Communists professed "human rights" and murdered millions, as did the Vatican who professed reverence for human life. Human "rights" are mostly concocted by humanists - and as such, are as fickle as the finite human mind that invented them. "Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut." Ernest Hemingway Obviously didn't subscribe to his own drunken waffle. + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Forwarded as information only; no endorsement to be presumed + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] 'Mossad' warns of attack on Vatican
'Mossad' warns of attack on Vatican FROM RICHARD OWEN IN ROME AS the Pope led Palm Sunday ceremonies before 100,000 people in St Peter's Square yesterday, police were on high alert after a warning to Italy and the Vatican that there could be an "Islamic terrorist attack" on him over the Easter period. The tip-off is said to have come from Mossad, the Israeli security service. The exchange of intelligence is said to be one of the first fruits of the warmer relationship between the Holy See and Israel after the Pope's trip to the Holy Land. As part of tightened security measures, all those entering St Peter's Square must now pass through one of 35 metal detectors placed between its magnificent 17th-century marble columns. Police said that the detectors would be used whenever the Pope was inside the basilica or in the square. Hidden video surveillance cameras have been installed and the number of plainclothes police in the square and on surrounding rooftops increased. Commander Roberto Scigliano, the former chief of police in Brindisi, Catania and Bari - all seen as crime "hot spots" - has been appointed to co-ordinate Italian and Vatican security services at St Peter's. The Pope, who is nearly 80, is to travel to the shrine of Fatima in Portugal next month to give thanks to the Virgin Mary for saving his life on May 13, 1981 - the feast day of Our Lady of Fatima - when he was wounded in an attempted assassination. Italian intelligence sources told Il Messaggero, the Rome daily, that terrorists were planning to "strike at the heart of the Catholic Church during the Holy Year". The target was "probably the Pope himself", although other targets were possible, since "what matters is the symbolism of an outrage . . . an attack in or around the Vatican would be enough". Diplomats said that it would be intended to disrupt the Middle East peace process and overshadow the Pope's triumph in the Holy Land, when he not only altered Jewish perceptions of the Church but also backed the moderate Palestinian leadership of Yassir Arafat and endorsed the Palestinian right to a homeland. The Vatican is facing embarrassment over the prospect of Jörg Haider, the Austrian far-Right leader, standing next to the Pope when the pontiff blesses a Christmas tree in St Peter's Square to be donated by the region of Carinthia, of which Herr Haider is governor. The square's tree is usually donated by one of the countries or regions of Europe with a sizeable Catholic population. Two years ago, Carinthia was selected for 2000. http://www.the-times.co.uk/news/pages/tim/2000/04/17/timfgneur01001.html Comment: So what's the "SPIN" here???
Re: [CTRL] SHH!!! rum mister? Poley CUT The CRAP, Please , or else . . .
1. This is no administration I am a benevolent dictator and I am too darn busy a have no time for this foolishness. 2. I understand you are a hurt because you got called on you name calling and I did ask you please not to cuss. But there is a difference in usage, That is not a defense of Poley's use. 3. Poley and J2 have been around for years and do alot of joking around on religious subjects. If you take them seriously , please seek medical attention. There is a grain of truth in their humour and it can be unsettling. 4. There really is a rhetorical differnce in the usage that was applied and if you can see that, there is no use in any discourse. 5. And Tara, nobody emailed me about the remark. I ain't PC, just crabby. I found the "Shithead remark overly offensive provocation 6. As far as Christianity being a pile of . , well with organized and much of what is understood to be Christianity, I personally would concur. I do believe in Jesus the Nazarene aka The Christ. I do not believe in much of the organized dogma and I personaly believe Paul was nuts and a traitor to his "adopted people" and the world stills pays for his perfidity. MHO 7. No one is forced to subsribe to this list. 8. Please keep DISRUPTION down, that is the key to not "generating my wrath.";-) Om K Here was my "castigation" of newmedia Don't be cussing in the headlines and such. And this isn't an abortion discussion list. Om K In a message dated 4/18/00 5:33:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just curious Mr Admin: I posted and used the term "shithead" and was castigated by the administators for a "cussing" - should i have simply used the word "shit" instead? "Shit" does seem to be shovelled about freely here by other posters - so ... is there a change in "shit" policy, to which i ought have been advised - or is there a double standard in place here? That is, some "shits" are more equal than other "shits" ? www.ctrl.org A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] SHH!!! rum mister? Poley CUT The CRAP, Please , or else . . .
In a message dated 4/19/00 12:46:20 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 3. Poley and J2 have been around for years and do alot of joking around on religious subjects. If you take them seriously , please seek medical attention. There is a grain of truth in their humour and it can be unsettling. Probably because of this, and its usage, I did not even notice the fact that the WORD was used untill brought to my attention by you post and its ensuing followers. If you feel slighted, sorry, but thats the rough and tumble world of email lists. ;-) Om K Om K A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] Re: Lansdale grotesque propaganda book
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[CTRL] Microwave harassment mind control experimentation
MICROWAVE HARASSMENT AND MIND-CONTROL EXPERIMENTATION http://www.webcom.com/~pinknoiz/coldwar/microwave.html http://www.lambsheart.com/web/hightech.html SUPPLEMENT Whither the KGB? PART 1 - THE PROBLEM SURFACES The Existing Directed-Energy Arsenal BIOEFFECTS OF MICROWAVE RADIATION CONGRESSIONAL OVERSIGHT PRELIMINARY FINDINGS PART II -- OVERT AND COVERT HARASSMENT OVERT HARASSMENT MIND-CONTROL EXPERIMENTATION by, Julianne McKinney Director, Electronic Surveillance Project Association of National Security Alumni December 1992 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Electronic Weather Control: Why It Doesn't Rain Much Anymore
The End of the Line http://www.west.net/~eotl/political/weapons/weather.htm http://www.west.net/~eotl/political/weapons/weapons.htm Electronic Weather Control: Why It Doesn't Rain Much Anymore Have you noticed how it¹s not raining much again; how most of the weather fronts that have managed to come through this season have been dissipated and broken up? Have you noticed the occasional weird cloud shapes that appear with the few fronts that do manage to pass by? And how the jet stream has been forced North again? How high pressure ridges continue to dominate the Southwest? Some say the rain is being turned on (last year) and off (during the preceding 7-year drought and again this season) by an irritated and vengeful God. In reality, however, it is Man who is playing God and doing the dirty work. None of this is illusory or accidental, for there is powerful and compelling evidence that the bizarre weather patterns of recent years have been - to a very large degree - engineered, controlled, and influenced by both the Russian and American governments. To those of you familiar with the work of the supermind of Nikola Tesla, the following will not come as much of a surprise. On the Fourth of July, 1976, the former Soviet Union began broadcasting huge, pulsed electromagnetic fields from three gigantic 40-million watt transmitters which beamed those signals halfway around the world to the U.S. This electronic assault disrupted and jammed radio and television broadcast signals, enraged the FCC, and irritated ham radio operators, who quickly dubbed the signals 'The Russian Woodpecker,' because of their pulsed cadence. To date, the Russians have completed nearly 30 of the huge transmitters which emit signals primarily in the very dangerous 10-Hertz range, otherwise known as Extreme Low Frequency (ELF). The technology is based on the brilliant work of the peerless electrical genius, Nikola Tesla. So, what exactly does the 'Russian Woodpecker' do and how does it do it? Consider the following: These 'Tesla' transmitters create massive 'standing' ELF waves that form major high pressure 'blocking systems' that change the normal high altitude jet stream pattern, force it to the north, and actually retard the normal flow patterns of incoming weather systems. Ever notice the television weather satellite pictures showing the jet stream pushed north and a big stationary high pressure blocking nearly every major rain system that approaches the southern half of California?... Regarding the 7-year drought, which appears to be rearing its arid head again, the 1/13/93 edition of Discovery Magazine stated: Scientists would be happy if they learned one thing from this (seven year) drought: What causes the massive high pressure system to build up just off the California coast and stay there, like a double-parked delivery truck in rush-hour traffic, pushing storms to the north? Odd things were also being reported back in the winters of the early 1980's: A ridge of high pressure has hovered nearly 800 miles off the California Coast for the past two months, blocking the usual flow of moist air from the Pacific. --Time 1/1981 For the past four months, a single weather pattern...causing the drought is one of the most unusual national patterns ever recorded...such long lasting (high pressure) centers were unheard of until 1977 (when the Soviets began the 'Woodpecker' transmissions --ed.) --Washington Post 2/2/81 It is important to note that the end of the 7-year California drought in the winter of 1992-93 coincided exactly with the well-documented period of intense solar magnetic storms that disrupted all electromagnetic transmissions here on Earth including the 'Woodpecker.' Last summer's Midwest flooding was probably no accident, either. An unusual shift in the jet stream, acting as a barrier (is causing the floods)... --Newsweek 7/26/93 The stagnant high pressure zone acted like a barrier, preventing the normal flow of weather patterns from west to east... New York Times 7/29/93 It is extremely unusual for weather patterns to persist for so many weeks. The reasons for the weather patterns to become fixed...are unclear. --Storm, The World Weather Magazine 9/93 As far back in April, 1969, Spectrum, a publication of the prestigious Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers, featured an article by Seymour Tilson which stated: Workers in the field of atmospheric electricity and cloud physics have accumulated sufficient evidence to suggest that electric fields in the Earth¹s lower atmosphere play a critical role...perhaps the critical role...in the development and behavior of clouds that produces precipitation. Mr. Tilson was correct. Exactly one year after the 'birth' of the Russian Woodpecker, July 4, 1978, the U.S. Government conducted its own ELF weather experiment which created an enormous downpour of rain over six counties of northern Wisconsin. This ELF-generated storm generated winds of 157 mph and caused
Re: [CTRL] Electronic Weather Control: Why It Doesn't Rain Much Anymore
-Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Nicky Molloy Subject: [CTRL] Electronic Weather Control: Why It Doesn't Rain Much Anymore Have you noticed how it¹s not raining much again; No. Its pissing down here again, and has done for weeks. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Wednesday #1
SkeptiNews 000419a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question * Yesterday's bulletins: http://web.pitas.com/skeptinews/18_04_2000.html * Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. * PLEASE do NOT include the ENTIRE bulletin when you reply; cut/paste, eh? * Site of latest notices, excuses, news/views: http://skeptilog.pitas.com * Few chiropractors were infected during the production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Ananova: http://www.ananova.com./video/launchpad.html _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Privacy-loving space aliens smack down on SETI! A SETI radio telescope has been destroyed and scientists fear that space aliens may be responsible. A "pulsating blue beam" streaked out of the sky slammed into the 250-foot Rand Wilson telescope near Johannesburg, South Africa, lighting up the facility and a quarter-mile area surrounding it. Now tangle of twisted metal: http://www.theregister.co.uk/000419-04.html [Thanks, Gerardo!] # Mysterious 'Area 51' Photos Prompt Web Meltdown. SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - Perhaps the aliens pulled the plug. A US firm's move to post Russian spy satellite photos of 'Area 51', the mysterious USAF test site in Nevada, on the Internet prompted a Web meltdown on Tuesday as UFO buffs jammed its computers. http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/2418/wr/life_area_1.html @ Join the Area51 Photo Jam Now: http://www.fas.org/irp/overhead/groom.htm : Have you been attacked by aliens lately? Were you attacked physically/dig- itally/virtually/spiritually? Have you defended yourself? Are you effective? Do you have photos of the battlegrounds/bases/destruction? Posted'em yet??? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Native American Astronomy - Observatory in Stone? Tribe Near Tacoma May Have Mapped the Stars. TACOMA, Wash. (AP) Archaeologists are studying a mysterious "Skystone" they believe could have been used as an observatory 200 years ago by ancestors of the Puyallup Tribe. A 3-dimensional map of the heavens and Earth: http://www.newshub.com/cgibin/rd.cgi?9699789 : Have you read PREHISTORIC ASTRONOMY IN THE SOUTHWEST by Malville Putnam http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1555661165/sr=1-4/104-0957235-0653221 lately? Or maybe EARLY MAN AND THE COSMOS by Evan Hadingham [a little older] http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0806119195/sr=1-2/104-0957235-0653221 or anything else relevant to Native American archaeoastronomy? Do you know about the observatories of the Pawnee, Chumash, 'Anasazi', Incas, etc? Were these peoples aided/controlled by ETs, or did they figure it out themselves? # Argentina Building Largest Cosmic Ray Observatory - targeted by aliens already? http://www.abcnews.go.com/wire/US/reuters2418_3718.html # Universities Telescope Envy: http://newshub.com/cgibin/rd.cgi?9700405 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Space rockets to fire from plane. (BBC) A Russian firm planning to launch satellites into space from rockets dropped out of planes says it will be ready for its first mission in 2003. Much cheaper to put satellites into orbit: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_718000/718351.stm # Sea Launch crash is bitter blow: http://newshub.com/cgibin/rd.cgi?9699317 # Ariane soars to success (BBC) http://www.newshub.com/cgibin/rd.cgi?9699316 # The roaring business of rockets: http://newshub.com/cgibin/rd.cgi?9699315 # Microsoft: World spins in wrong direction - but don't worry, their tech staff has a fix: http://www.theregister.co.uk/000418-12.html : Have you launched any rockets from land/sea/plane/balloon/space lately? Do you have to account for the direction of Earth's rotation? Do your rockets always crash because you point'em the wrong way? Can BillGates fix that? Eh? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ GENETICS PLUS TIME. It does look as if Darwin was, more or less, right. Most new discoveries fit well into his ideas. At the end of the century biology looks like a more straight-forward science than it did even 20 years ago, which is a bit surprising, because, to the public, life seems fundamentally a mess. http://edge.org/3rd_culture/jones/jones_index.html @ Doctors Office: Enter at your own risk! When a patient comes into a med- ical office, there are invisible forces that are put into play. The doctor sees it as his duty to "fix your symptoms" and thus rob you of discovering what created them in the first place. Your compromised state of mind: http://www.homeopathyusa.com/doctors_office_enter_at_your_own.htm : Does your homeopathist know/care what the scientific method is? Does your biologist know/care what homeopathy is? D'ya mind that homeopathy predates the germ theory of disease, and has no doctrines infection? Do you worry?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # i-don't believe it! Council kiosks to change the world. More government guff. Hype breeds hatred: http://www.theregister.co.uk/000418-21.html # Turkey Debates Cyberspace Controls - guard against security threats, see
Re: [CTRL] [LIFE-GAZETTE] Christianity is worth IT (fwd)
Also "The flock is small"; and "Straight is the gate and narrow is the wayand few there be that find it."So how do you reconcile that with the huge numbers of "Christians"? You reconcile it by recognizing that Jesus said Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. Matthew 7:21-23
Re: [CTRL] SHI_!!! Forum Administrator?
I agree with Tara, with J2 in particular being allowed to flame purposely. I had long ago ignored his/her posts, figuring s/he was a nutcake. There is another person on the list I ignore, too. Just like some ignore me. J2 calls himself/herself an elder of zion [sic elder of thepig pen] but no matter how long s/he has been on this list s/he seems to havemore interest in ego gratification through vacuous postings than s/he does in rational conspiracy discussion. I guess seniority counts in the pig pen. I do see that there is a limiting factor in the useof some words: when flaming entails "fighting words" (which btw are not protected under the First Amendment) like "shi_" or "shithea_" then Kris has a duty to protect the list. Traditionally words used to call people names are within the penumbra of "fighting words", depending on the provocation involved. I see the problem as that the words "Jesu_" and "Christianit_" are fighting words to some, they seem to get all riled up over the King of King and Lord of Lords but breathe deeply over false prophets and apostles like Mohammad orWhat's-her-name who built a bomb shelter in Ohio for Church Triumphant, or even Jim Jones. My favorite FP is Mary Baker Eddy. Yet the First Amendment protects religious expression and moreover these are not fighting words in the law. Internallyfigure. I think it makes a diffence whom you call a shit. If it's an abortionist,people email Kris and complain, if it's an entire faith like Christianity, Iguess it's okay with everyone on the list but us :(And gee, I guess if you're J2 you can flame people individually and callthem shithead. I hope not. Let's see what comes of these comments in thelight of recent events on the list.Tara
Re: [CTRL] **** !!Forum Administrator?
DAVE FOR VEEP OF THE PIG PEN. KUDOS for countering the inane (well, most of them) quotes. I did not so much decry the word and its value, or lack thereof - as ask i did question the apparent double standard? ~~~ Integrity has no need of rules. -Albert Camus (1913-1960) Except Camoo's - obviously? + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust If the latter do not desire the former - then what is the purpose? + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your common sense." --Buddha Pure Humanistic twaddle - a Buddhist once said he believed in neither "good nor evil" - it was then proposed that a hot pot of boiled water be placed above his head - since their was no good or evil in the enlightened ones "common sense" - it was then suggested that the hot water be poured on his head - the room was quickly vacated by the holy man! To many Nazi's, the Holocaust was reasonable and commonse sense affair - was it not? + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + It is preoccupation with possessions, more than anything else, that prevents us from living freely and nobly. -Bertrand Russell Russell was wont to pompously bleat his religion of atheism - here, he seems to plagiarise the bible- "the LOVE of money (possessions) is the root of all evil" without apparent qualm. + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "Everyone has the right...to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers." Universal Declaration of Human Rights + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Depends who is IN CHARGE of your version of "human rights" - Communists professed "human rights" and murdered millions, as did the Vatican who professed reverence for human life. Human "rights" are mostly concocted by humanists - and as such, are as fickle as the finite human mind that invented them. "Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut." Ernest Hemingway Obviously didn't subscribe to his own drunken waffle.
Re: [CTRL] Negatives from film shot at Waco are Missing (fwd)
This roll of film is important because it appears to show that there are no government agents standing where flashes show up on infrared surveillance tape of the incident. The absence of agents undercuts the Branch Davidians' claim that the flashes are from the guns of agents firing into the complex. ARMED, CAMOUFLAGED, REMOTE-CONTROLLED ROBOTS PROVE THEIR METTLE AT WACO -- MISSION GOALS ACHIEVED, PLAUSIBLE DENIABILITY A SUCCESS. IT NEVER HAPPENED. At 06:26 AM 4-18-2000 -0700, you wrote: Monday, April 17, 2000 Negatives from film shot at Waco are missing, U.S. says By William H. Freivogel and Terry Ganey Of the Post-Dispatch The Justice Department admitted Monday that it could not find the original negatives of an important roll of film taken on the last day of the siege of the Branch Davidians' complex. But it said it had not tampered with those photos or with infrared and electronic surveillance tapes of the 1993 episode that left about 80 Branch Davidians dead. The government acknowledged in a court filing Monday that it is missing 30 original negatives from the first of at least seven rolls of film shot by an FBI photographer who circled 1,000 feet above the complex in a Cessna surveillance aircraft. The government, however, does have prints of the missing negatives and the original contact sheet of the negatives. This roll of film is important because it appears to show that there are no government agents standing where flashes show up on infrared surveillance tape of the incident. The absence of agents undercuts the Branch Davidians' claim that the flashes are from the guns of agents firing into the complex. One strip of original negatives from that first roll of film has been turned over to the federal court that is hearing the Branch Davidians' wrongful death suit against the government. That strip contains a key photograph that appears to have been taken at 11:24 a.m., within seconds of flashes on the video. That photograph shows no agents in the vicinity of the flashes. But the other negatives from that roll of film have been missing since at least 1997 and have not been found despite an extensive search by the FBI, the Justice Department said. Agents searched for the negatives at least five times. The department said that the strip of original negatives with the photo from 11:24 a.m. was separated from the missing original negatives when Congress requested it as part of its 1995 investigation of Waco. A document analyst with the Special Photo Unit of the FBI, identified only as "ALS," found that the negatives were missing around April 1997. The FBI then made a duplicate set of the negatives from photographs and marked them with the notation "originals lost." The Davidians' attorney, Michael Caddell, had claimed that one of the photos from the replacement negatives had a white scratch that appeared to obliterate a speck that might be a person. But the Justice Department said that the contact sheet, made from the original negative, had no person or speck. The Justice Department also disputed Caddell's claim that several rolls of the film were missing. The photographer taking the film that said he took about 10 rolls, give or take one or two. The FBI produced seven rolls. In Monday's court filing, the department produced logs and records that appear to show that only seven rolls were shot and developed. The government argued in its court filing that it should not be fined for any discrepancies involving the photos or tapes. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot
Re: [CTRL] [LIFE-GAZETTE] Christianity is worth IT (fwd)
Clarification: I should have added that many designate themselves Christians, call themselves Christians. But God will reject some of them - "many" of them. Sorry for the hit and run. -Original Message-From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of FoxterSent: 19 April 2000 12:01To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [CTRL] [LIFE-GAZETTE] "Christianity is worth IT" (fwd) Also "The flock is small"; and "Straight is the gate and narrow is the wayand few there be that find it."So how do you reconcile that with the huge numbers of "Christians"? You reconcile it by recognizing that Jesus said Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. Matthew 7:21-23 Well, thats cleared that up then.
[CTRL] Easter Canceled This Year!
Easter Canceled This Year!Author Unknown Jerusalem, April 15, 1995- -Archeologists who have been excavating in the hills above Jerusalem announced today the discovery of a 2000-year-old mummy bearing puncture wounds through the hands and feet and a deep laceration in the lower left chest. Scientists noted that there was a large accumulation of blood in the lower body, consistent with the body having been upright at the time of death. Carbon dating of the body and its burial shroud indicated death had occurred 1990 +-95 years ago. The archeologists stated that in spite of its age, the body was well preserved in the dry air of the hidden, sealed cave. A senior archeologist, asked if this was the body of Jesus Christ, refused to comment, but agreed that "the evidence is not inconsistent with that hypothesis." A younger archeologist, who requested anonymity, said "This is the corpse of Christ. Period. They're just going to have to cancel Easter this year." A Vatican spokesman said that such a discovery was impossible, because they had the true burial cloth of Christ, the Shroud of Turin. Asked to explain its carbon date of approximately 1300 AD, the spokesman repeated the Vatican position that there was a burst of radiation at the time of the resurrection. In a separate news conference, another spokesman said that a careful reading of the Bible and Catholic doctrine would show that they were "not inconsistent" with such a discovery. Ronald Reagan, former President of the United States, announced outrage that such a discovery should be made. In Lynchburg, Virginia, Jerry Falwell, leader of Moral Majority, denounced it as "an attempt by atheistic scientists to undermine the Constitution." Armed troops were patrolling the Christian sections of Jerusalem after the Chief Rabbi commented that he "had always known the resurrection was a myth." The Israeli government ordered him to make no further statements on the discovery.
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Wednesday #2
SkeptiNews 000419b - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question * Yesterday's bulletins: http://web.pitas.com/skeptinews/18_04_2000.html * Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. * PLEASE do NOT include the ENTIRE bulletin when you reply; cut/paste, eh? * Site of latest notices, excuses, news/views: http://skeptilog.pitas.com * during the production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ You Are Here: http://www.zompist.com/langmaps.html _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Milky Way On Collision Course With Andromeda Galaxy - Run! Run! We're all doomed! http://www.newshub.com/cgibin/rd.cgi?9703575 # UFO SHOCKER! Spaceships Collide Over Brazil In Game Of 'Chicken' http://www.weeklyworldnews.com/archive/stories/1375.html @ Can You Prove That Sputniks Are Tracking You? Yes, I can prove sputniks are tracking me now and in the past. And people with Geiger Counters in the past can never understand why the radiation levels are too high near me for them to explain. That always freaks them. Always. http://community-2.webtv.net/NancyLuft/CanYouProveThat/ : Should Sputniks track cars/UFOs/galaxies so they don't collide? Have you been tracked by Sputniks lately? Is everyone? Do you feel more/less secure? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Pentagon: No ETs in Our Programs. WASHINGTON (AP) - Believe it or not, the Pentagon denied Tuesday that extraterrestrials participate in classified U.S. military programs. Spokesman Ken Bacon was responding to reporters' questions about Monday's Internet posting of the first detailed satellite images of Area 51, the supersecret Air Force test site in Nevada that UFO buffs think holds alien technology. Asked if the Internet posting revealed military secrets, Bacon said he was "not aware that any information was revealed that compromised" military activities. Not that they'd tell HIM, OF COURSE. http://news.excite.com/news/ap/000418/19/pentagon-space-aliens # New Non-Lethal Weapons May Be Used Against US Citizens Part One: http://www.sightings.com/general/nonleth.htm Part Two: http://www.sightings.com/general/nonleth2.htm : Have you colluded with any aliens lately to develop (non)lethal weapons; mind-control / mind-reading / intelligence-gathering systems; ground/space transport systems; sexual enhancers; entertainment electronics? Why not?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # SPECTACULAR WAVE OF UFO SIGHTINGS SWEEPS HOLY LAND! JERUSALEM - A new wave of UFO sightings in the Holy Land has convinced pilgrims,religious leaders and Bible scholars that a religious event of earthshaking proportions is imminent. http://www.weeklyworldnews.com/archive/stories/1783.html # Secret UFO base revealed: http://newshub.com/cgibin/rd.cgi?9703518 # ET Contact. Military reports that 110 different ET species visit the Earth monthly. http://www.caus.org/mc041900.htm # German Fighter Ace Red Baron Shot Down A Ufo In 1917! http://www.weeklyworldnews.com/archive/stories/1293.html # Couple Chases UFO in Yukon: http://www.caus.org/mu041800.htm : Have you sighted/downed/avoided any UFOs lately? Does your UFO experience portend great tumult in the galaxy/world/region/neighborhood? How many ETs do you bump into daily/weekly/monthly? Are they well-groomed, smelly, thin? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Ancient Indian Aircraft Technology. Many researchers into the UFO enigma tend to overlook a very important fact. While it assumed that most flying saucers are of alien, or perhaps Govt/Military origin, another possible origin of UFOs is ancient India Atlantis. http://caus.org/pn041900.htm # Cuzco is Portal to Agartha: The inner world corresponding to earth's morphogenetic fields. http://www.caus.org/os041900.htm # How to tell if you've been contacted by space aliens: http://www.weeklyworldnews.com/archive/stories/1347.html # USAF Warns: One In Four Ufo Pilots Is Drunk! http://www.weeklyworldnews.com/archive/stories/1638.html : Have you had any near-misses with inebriated UFO pilots lately? Were they flying new/old Indian/Govt/Alien/Nazi craft? Were you/they aiming for those subterranean portals when you/they augered in? Should the portals be bigger? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Dotcom CEOs are vapid, empty, shallow - and that's the good ones. Able staff are hard to find: http://www.theregister.co.uk/000418-03.html # She wanted to turn herself into a dot-com, but found that an unemployed philosopher already owned her name. Along with 130 other writers. Darn. http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/tim/2000/03/29/timartart02003.html # THE MARKET ON PROZAC? The press has been preoccupied with explanations for the current extraordinary boom. Many articles say, as they always do while a bubble grows,that this market is "different." Some attribute the differ- ence to new information technology.Others credit changes in foreign trade, or the baby boomer's lack of experience with a real economic depression. But you never see a serious story
Re: [CTRL] Easter Canceled This Year!
-Original Message-From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of blue honeySent: 19 April 2000 13:49To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [CTRL] Easter Canceled This Year! Easter Canceled This Year!Author Unknown Jerusalem, April 15, 1995- -Archeologists who have been excavating in the hills above Jerusalem announced today the discovery of a 2000-year-old mummy bearing puncture wounds through the hands and feet and a deep laceration in the lower left chest. Who are these archaeologists? Scientists noted that there was a large accumulation of blood in the lower body, consistent with the body having been upright at the time of death. Who are these scientists? Carbon dating of the body and its burial shroud indicated death had occurred 1990 +-95 years ago. Who did the carbon dating? The archeologists stated that in spite of its age, the body was well preserved in the dry air of the hidden, sealed cave. A senior archeologist, WHO? asked if this was the body of Jesus Christ, refused to comment, but agreed that "the evidence is not inconsistent with that hypothesis." A younger archeologist, WHO??? who requested anonymity, said "This is the corpse of Christ. Period. They're just going to have to cancel Easter this year." How did he know this? A Vatican spokesmanWHO??? said that such a discovery was impossible, because they had the true burial cloth of Christ, the Shroud of Turin. Asked to explain its carbon date of approximately 1300 AD, the spokesman repeated the Vatican position that there was a burst of radiation at the time of the resurrection. In a separate news conference, another spokesman WHO??? said that a careful reading of the Bible and Catholic doctrine would show that they were "not inconsistent" with such a discovery. Ronald Reagan, former President of the United States, announced outrage that such a discovery should be made. In Lynchburg, Virginia, Jerry Falwell, leader of Moral Majority, denounced it as "an attempt by atheistic scientists to undermine the Constitution." Armed troops were patrolling the Christian sections of Jerusalem after the Chief Rabbi commented that he "had always known the resurrection was a myth." The Israeli government ordered him to make no further statements on the discovery. Reference please? Silas
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Wednesday #3
SkeptiNews 000419c - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question * Yesterday's bulletins: http://web.pitas.com/skeptinews/18_04_2000.html * Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. * PLEASE do NOT include the ENTIRE bulletin when you reply; cut/paste, eh? * Site of latest notices, excuses, news/views: http://skeptilog.pitas.com * Few blunders are made during the production of these bulletins. Very few. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ Beware This Alien: http://www.nbarker.demon.co.uk/demon.jpg _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ * Apology - I inadvertently neglected to include a contributor's questions * along with the piece he sent, used in a earlier bulletin. Here they are: # Privacy-loving space aliens smack down on SETI - pulsating blue sky-beam destroys radio-telescope: http://www.theregister.co.uk/000419-04.html ; Do your alien race hate SETI eavesdroping, do it interfere with Porn TV/ *Net reception, do it causes headaches/psicosis/implant misfiring, what´s your leaders next target, Hubble/Arecibo/Mauna Kea, is SETI a coverup for interestellar Echelon ?? Did they hear you saying President , Allah( Or alien equivalent), when you were calling your Momma? Does your alien race contacted V***GER (remember trekkie fans?) it says "destroy, kill, kick, bring seti down, nuke earth with your blue beams "), or it was a test fire of "ION CANNON" from Command Conquer, or maybe it was Goldeneye. From: "Gerardo E. Arceri" [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ A new kind of object: From Rorschach to Relationship. A new kind of computational object is provoking striking new changes in the narrative of human development, especially in the way people think about life, and about what kind of relationships it is appropriate to have with a machine. http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/story/101.html $ Evil. Handcrafted with love: http://www.tccorp.com/outsider/doll.html # Blair and Pikachu: http://www.drinkfromthefurrycup.com/news/51.shtml @ Fuzzy Logic: http://www.brunching.com/features/feature-fuzzylogic.html # Ananova speaks - cyberrubbish. More long-winded than a govt minister. And no tits: http://www.theregister.co.uk/000419-08.html : Do you have meaningful relationships with humans/ETs/machines/vegetables/ spirits/me? What relationships are appropriate? What relationships can you just barely tolerate? Do mind-control rays broaden your tolerance? When?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Catholics: Jesus-starring PETA billboard is sacreligious. The animal-lov- ing group's billboard features a Christ-like figure. "I said, 'Thou shalt not kill,'" sez the ad, obviously referring to animal butchery. A Catholic Action League official calls the billboard a "tawdry shock tactic," and adds: "They're using Jesus as a vehicle for advertising. It's offensive, inappropriate and in poor taste." [via http://www.obscurestore.com/] http://www.bostonherald.com/news/local_regional/peta04172000.htm # Jesus video distribution offends Florida Jews - pisses me off too: www.sun-sentinel.com/news/daily/detail/0,1136,300116540,00.html # EXTREMIST ISLAMIC REGIME IMPOVERISHES WOMEN IN AFGHANISTAN- Prohibits Them Working: http://www.zenit.org/english/archive/0004/ZE000417.html#item3 @ Mosque Clock - not to be missed: http://www.mosqueclock.com/hard_sell.htm : D'ya market your religious/political/economic/artistic beliefs? D'ya have trademarked icons? Are you angered/wrathful/litigious when someone from ano- ther belief system appropriates your icons? Do you invoke divine punishment? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # RANDI BEGS BENNETH, "KILL ME WITH YOUR VOODOO" - Randi writes, 'I'm told that one of the nut cases out there has declared that "negative vibes" can be sent out against individuals. You know, voodoo, bad thoughts, curses, the whole spectrum. Okay, let's do a test. I invite ALL the bad guys out there to curse me,point-the-bone at me,send me "bad cess," and in general wish me real bad stuff. Try to get me dead by thinking me dead, by putting out every evil wish you can summon up, and let's see what happens.' http://x40.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=585583909CONTEXT=953719051.752418831 # Parents try psychic in search. HAYDEN, Colo. The parents of Marie Blee are turning to a psychic to help find the body of the 15-year-old girl who disappeared more than 20 years ago. Blee, a Hayden resident, vanished Nov. 21, 1979, after going to a party in nearby Craig. Rumors about her disappearance have swept small towns in northwestern Colorado for two decades. http://insidedenver.com/news/0418regio.shtml : Have you had any notable positive/negative/indeterminate interactions with psychics/wizards/spoonbenders lately? Are people claiming paranormal powers cruel/craven/crazy by nature/nurture? Is death too important for psychics?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Planet Earth gets a makeover. (BBC) Nasa has created a stunning composite image of the Earth using data from
[CTRL] Clinton Jokes About E-Mail Probe
After reading the article that Mr. Michael Spitzer brought to the list (about President WJC saying he didn't use the Internet - except for online shopping (?)), and that he used the phone instead, I still wonder about his knowledge regarding intelligence communications and espionage. He knows for sure, but: ...does he feels or thinks that his phone is not tapped? (And in case "this is not happening"...) Perhaps some people know this already, but does he think or know the technology some wealthy have already surpassed the electronic and wire communications years ago? One day this 9 years old little boy will take a real "laugh". Look up to the skies... __ Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Easter Canceled This Year!
This is all this I have for you: http://www.infidels.org/misc/humor/easter.html I believe it was meant to be humorous. Easter Canceled This Year!Author Unknown Jerusalem, April 15, 1995- -Archeologists who have been excavating in the hills above Jerusalem announced today the discovery of a 2000-year-old mummy bearing puncture wounds through the hands and feet and a deep laceration in the lower left chest. Who are these archaeologists? Scientists noted that there was a large accumulation of blood in the lower body, consistent with the body having been upright at the time of death. Who are these scientists? Carbon dating of the body and its burial shroud indicated death had occurred 1990 +-95 years ago. Who did the carbon dating? The archeologists stated that in spite of its age, the body was well preserved in the dry air of the hidden, sealed cave. A senior archeologist, WHO? asked if this was the body of Jesus Christ, refused to comment, but agreed that "the evidence is not inconsistent with that hypothesis." A younger archeologist, WHO??? who requested anonymity, said "This is the corpse of Christ. Period. They're just going to have to cancel Easter this year." How did he know this? A Vatican spokesmanWHO??? said that such a discovery was impossible, because they had the true burial cloth of Christ, the Shroud of Turin. Asked to explain its carbon date of approximately 1300 AD, the spokesman repeated the Vatican position that there was a burst of radiation at the time of the resurrection. In a separate news conference, another spokesman WHO??? said that a careful reading of the Bible and Catholic doctrine would show that they were "not inconsistent" with such a discovery. Ronald Reagan, former President of the United States, announced outrage that such a discovery should be made. In Lynchburg, Virginia, Jerry Falwell, leader of Moral Majority, denounced it as "an attempt by atheistic scientists to undermine the Constitution." Armed troops were patrolling the Christian sections of Jerusalem after the Chief Rabbi commented that he "had always known the resurrection was a myth." The Israeli government ordered him to make no further statements on the discovery. Reference please? Silas
[CTRL] More Schroedinger's Eskimo
Dear Readers, whether or not associated with spirit-assisted tree-dwelling, according to an old Psych dictionary of mine (probably Arthur Rebus', Penguin edition) there is indeed a native-specific Eskimo condition called Piblotko, which is diagnosed by symptoms including wild, outwardbound running behaviour away from the village. I came across this whilst compiling the 'name the syndrome' section of last year's Psych Quiz for a Dept Student Soc social event. Cheers, Tony. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Easter Cancelled This Year!
-Original Message-From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of blue honey This is all this I have for you: http://www.infidels.org/misc/humor/easter.html I believe it was meant to be humorous. Oh, HUMOUR! I remember that, but I'm sure that is not how it goes, isn't humour supposed to be funny? Or have I missed something? Silas
[CTRL] Fwd: Nighttime Gardeners Guide!
Some people whine about the danges of geneticically engineered crops. Other people DO something about it. -- nessie *** A - I N F O S N E W S S E R V I C E http://www.ainfos.ca/ Friends, We were unsure of whether you have ever received a copy of our publication. Let us know if you want a paper copy (with pictures!). thanks and see you in the fields... Nighttime Gardeners Greetings future crop pullers! At last, the new Nighttime Gardener is ready for distribution. After two months, many revisions and a few complaints (where are the Amerikan pictures?) the new guide is done! Why a new guide, you say? Well so much has changed that we decided to update new methods for GE crop decontamination and even include a photo gallery. New sections on GE forestry and expanded "tools" and "planning" sections. Plus, its the winter and we want people to reflect (i.e. plan) their spring planting season and harvesting accordingly with good information. The Winter 2000 Version of the Nighttime Gardeners Guide is a 18 page, self-mailer available through this account and the Bioengineering Action Network Distro. For bulk copies, email us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or check out the first version at http://www.tao.ca/~ban Activists/supporters=free but we take stamps and donations. Infoshops=pay what you can Coporate Price=$5,000/page We take donations (of course) and encourage all nighttime gardeners (and everyone else) to send in your stories, critiques, suggestions, bomb threats etc. What critics have to say about the NGG... -"Loved it...If I wasnt such a wanker...Id be doing the same..." Bob Shapiro, Monsanto -some well intentioned supporter had this to say (via email): "You are sociopaths who disgust me. You are criminals of the highest order...utterly ignorant that the best thought I can muster for you is that you are entirely stupid. And lets not forget our friends at UC-Berkeley: "Let me catch one of them in my field and I'll... The Nighttime Gardener's Guide... from the people who brought you the crop action! (ok, maybe not but it sure sounds good!) The Nighttime Gardener -A guide for the shy gardener in North Amerika- Greetings. The following guide was put together for the WTO gathering in the hopes that people from all over the continent would find this informational useful and inspiring. The corporate biotechnology onslaught embodies the New World Order perhaps better than any other issue. Johnna Appleseed of Reclaim the Seeds, one of several nighttime gardening groups, describes it well: "If you care about wildlife and think the natural world is fine without mutant genes, you should resist genetic engineering. If you care about social justice and don't want to poison farm workers with pesticides and herbicides, you should resist genetic engineering. If you care about biological and cultural diversity as opposed to a global corporate monoculture, you should resist genetic engineering. If you care about laboratory animals and don't want researchers creating hybrid genetic monsters, you should resist genetic engineering. If you eat food, you should resist genetic engineering. If not you, th! ! en who? If not now, when? Resistance to genetic engineering is as transnational as capital." A section on computer security will be released with a future draft of this guide. Please make sure and check it out. There are numerous benefits of encryption technology and anonymous web-surfing. Also, a read-through of the essential book Ecodefense will be most helpful, in particular the "Security" chapter. These GE plants are held captive as biotech slaves. By harvesting them early, we free them from the bonds of corporate servitude. Remember this while gardening because sometimes it feels strange to garden in this manner. Life is sacred, which is why we garden at night in the first place. May nighttime gardening flourish here as it has in Europe and other lands around the globe. -This guide shall be continuously updated. Please give us your input at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Evening Attire for The Nighttime Gardener Gardening is a very dirty job. For the least hassle it is recommended to wear a complete set of old clothes that can easily be discarded in dumpsters after gardening. Don t be cheap. It's really necessary, even if like us, you hate wasting anything. Black evening attire is the most appropriate for shy gardeners. You may get very wet and cold, so wear appropriate cold-weather and rain gear. Have some comfortable clean clothes and shoes to change into before you get home. A forensic scientist can tell roughly where you've been from the composition of the dirt and soil that you will have picked up on your travels. Say, for instance, you've been gardening at a Monsanto test site of GE corn, then traces of earth will be upon
[CTRL] Olympic Broadcast Ban
Now ... the 'games' are scheduled to be from 15th September to 1st October,
2000. Is it not true that in the Northern Hemisphere, this would be the end of
Summer and the beginning of Autumn whereas south of the Equator, it would be
the end of Winter and the beginning of Spring? In them olden days, the U.S.
Olympic training centre was established at Colo Springs, CO, to account for
altitude differences (Mexico City, e.g., but applicable to all locations); is
there going to be some means of accommodating the seasons' changes going from
above to below the equator, I wonder, I do? First the jet lag then the
seasonal lag? AER
Via http://news.ninemsn.com.au/04_sport/story_18620.asp
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SOCOG relents on Olympic broadcast ban
AAP -- Olympic organisers eased restrictions today on television access at the
Sydney Games, allowing a limited number of international broadcasters to film
within the main Homebush site.
Sydney organising chief Michael Knight announced a compromise plan - approved
by the International Olympic Committee - to allay the concerns of non-rights-
holding entities including CNN, ESPN, Fox, Associated Press Television News and
Reuters Television.
Under previously announced guidelines, all non-rights-holders would have been
banned from the entire Sydney Olympic Park area at Homebush, a public area that
is the site for most of the marquee sports, including track and field,
swimming, basketball and gymnastics.
The rule would have restricted access to local Australian rights-holders and
NBC, which paid $US705 million ($A1.2 billion) for exclusive US rights to the
Sept 15-Oct 1 Games.
The ban led to official protests by TV companies and the threat of possible
legal action against Sydney Olympic officials.
Under the new rules, Olympic officials will issue eight permits per day to
international non-rights-holders and eight to Australian non-rights-holders.
The permits will be issued on a rotating basis by the Olympic Co-ordination
Authority, a body of the New South Wales government that controls the Homebush
site.
"This is a victory for common sense and enables the international news
organisations to report the news events that surround every Olympic Games in a
proper manor. It the Olympic ideal that there should be access for all," APTN
managing editor Sandy MacIntyre said.
The IOC has accredited 140 non-right-holders for Sydney, suggesting the
competition will be fierce for the daily permits.
"We are trying to balance crowd management and the legitimate interests of news
media, while protecting our rights holders," Knight said.
"They have paid a lot of money for the rights and don't deserve to be
ambushed."
Sydney officials have cited crowd control as a main reason for their decision
to restrict TV access to the area.
As in previous games, all non-Olympic broadcasters are prohibited from filming
inside the stadiums and arenas. But in the past, non-rights-holders have not
been banned from filming outside the venues.
Those non-rights-holders allowed access to Homebush will be subjected to
several conditions. They will be prohibited from doing live broadcasts or
conducting interviews with athletes outside the venues.
All non-rights-holders - including those without the daily permits - will have
access to the main press centre, which is located in the Homebush area.
Athletes will be encouraged to go to the press centre for interviews, Knight
said.
Knight acknowledged the plan won't satisfy everybody.
"We think it's a fair compromise," he said. "It's always a balancing act. When
you reach a compromise, you usually don't make everybody happy. But it's almost
always the best result." - AP
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Re: [CTRL] Fw: this Magic = SLAVERY!
This means that all answers are already given that we need to think and format the questions and queries That to put all knowledge on a computer will do no good unless you know what questions to ask of it! Communist want to control - since they do not know what will be of value to capitalize on they will just try to take everything. They are the "ultimate negative capaltlist(s)" since they are incapable of seeing that they can earn for the sake of knowledge - it all has to go to the state and if they build or ask questions of what they have done they could be going against the state and get killed. Example: person#1 comes up with an answer - state takes it to question that answer to get a new result requires questioning the state. They have suddenly become an activist and a threat to the state. Communist are not allowed to debate, to enjoy, to use higher thinking skills since to do so will be questioning the state. Even if you were to give them and encyclopedia, they would need someone telling them what is important so that they could question it. Since everything that is important is new and potentially could tear up the state, they have to tear up new inventions and ways of thinking, because those ways of thinking could undermine the states control. The universe as a hologram where everything is connected would undermine ideas like "Goals 2000" where each child is to learn a skill and not be allowed to learn any subject that is not "deemed" required. To say that a computer operator does not need NOT ALLOWED to learn medieval history. They will be a computer operator all their lives (of course it is because of a genetic trait) when they are no longer needed as a computer operator Ah, well. . . They also are not allowed to learn any nutritional properties of food - they might question doctors. to learn government - they might question government to learn propaganda - they might question government Russia seems to be like this China and Japan still have some respect for education and history - it seems as if they are allowed to learn just not say that they have - as such - the base line of Communism is that they are not to question, debate, or to really THINK! Everything is separate, compartmentalized. An Hologram universe would require that they learn how things interconnect. It would require that Americans see that many of these things are not compiracy BUT a take over by those that do not want speculation as to how event interconnect. Up to now conspiracies have been limited to human type. If Communism has it's way any type of new idea would be a potential conspiracy. Think of how the French Revolution was against religion how Leakey and Lucy were trouted as against religion how some things are against government most anything new is a conspiracy and such to be used the Confederate Flag is not seen as a fight against the cannibalism that had happened overseas and against the crowded conditions in the North that they wanted to take the South's lands to put their own governmental slaves there but as a Southern slavery issue - using the African Americans to get the Southern lands. Check on the crowding in New York City during those times and put that together with the Civil War. It makes interesting reading. Will you think while you are still allowed to? You may forward with (c), ending and web page address intact will redo the open source comment on web page - since in the current format I stinks of communism, too. ThePiedPiper - A Purest not a Puritan Creator(t) http://ThePiedPiper.tripod.com/site_map.htm --- David Sutherland wrote: The problem these Gnostics garbed in the skirt of "scientism" have is that they do not comprehend that their own philosophy of "Maya" is an "Illusion!" The so-called "Holographic Universe" is merely a regurgitated form of amoral Hindu Pantheism, which in itself is a fundamentally slavish dogma that craves the subjugation and dissolution of the individual spirit into the communist-like universal "oneness". The Gnostics are, and were, obsessed with phantoms, evil spirits and the evil demiurge "god". Much of the New Testament contains harsh polemic against the Gnostics and their inherent glib view of life and humanity and their paranoid sense of the Cosmic Grim. In some sense, from what I read of the US history, at the apex of the JFK assassination the US as nation embarked on a course toward national Gnosticism. This Gnostic dialectic was and is compounded by the incessant paranoia of "Conspiracy Theory" which itself tends toward fatalism and a sense of powerlessness against the seemingly insurmountable powers of darkness. Heretical so-called "christian" Gnostics were historically the first to surrender liberty, property, and life to the power of the State, since, inherently they held that the material world and physical body, were evil and
Re: [CTRL] Fw: Magic = technology we don't understand
According to Bernard d'Espagnat ("The Quantum Theory and Reality", Scientific
American, Nov.'79,) the
implication of Aspect's (and others)
experiments refuting Bell's Theorem and vindicating the Copenhagen
interpretation of quantum mechanics is that AT LEAST ONE of the
following basic assumptions about "Reality" and the scientific method
is wrong:
1. REALISM - the doctrine that regularities in observed phenomena are caused by some
physical reality whose
existence is INDEPENDENT of
human OBSERVERS;
2. INDUCTIVE INFERENCE is a valid means of reasoning and can be applied
freely, so that legitimate conclusions can be drawn from consistent
observations;
3. EINSTEIN SEPARABILITY (LOCALITY) - no influence of any kind can
travel faster than the speed of light.
"Robert F. Tatman" wrote:
The sender of this message included the following comment: "I don't know the
origin of this essay -- somebody copied it onto another list I'm on, but it
is an eye opener -- among
other things it shows underlying ideas behind the magical law of contagion."
My own reaction was that it validates the observation in *Illuminatus* that
"reality is a consensus statement."
- Original Message -
From: Ambrose Hawk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: snipped
Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2000 1:26 PM
Subject: Magic = technology we don't understand
The Universe as a Hologram
Does Objective Reality Exist, or is the Universe a Phantasm?
In 1982 a remarkable event took place. At the University of Paris, a
research team led by physicist Alain Aspect performed what may turn out to
be one of the most important experiments of the 20th century. You did not
hear about it on the evening news. In fact, unless you are in the habit of
reading scientific journals you probably have never even heard Aspect's
name, though there are some who believe his discovery may change the face
of
science.
Aspect and his team discovered that under certain circumstances subatomic
particles such as electrons are able to instantaneously communicate with
each other regardless of the distance separating them. It doesn't matter
whether they are 10 feet or 10 billion miles apart. Somehow each particle
always seems to know what the other is doing. The problem with this feat
is
that it violates Einstein's long-held tenet that no communication can
travel
faster than the speed of light. Since traveling faster than the speed of
light is tantamount to breaking the time barrier, this daunting prospect
has
caused some physicists to try to come up with elaborate ways to explain
away
Aspect's findings. But it has inspired others to offer even more radical
explanations.
University of London physicist David Bohm, for example,believes Aspect's
findings imply that objective reality does not exist, that despite its
apparent solidity the universe is at heart a phantasm, a gigantic and
splendidly detailed hologram. To understand why Bohm makes this startling
assertion, one must first understand a little about holograms. A hologram
is
a three-dimensional photograph made with the aid of a laser.
To make a hologram, the object to be photographed is first bathed in the
light of a laser beam. Then a second laser beam is bounced off the
reflected
light of the first and the resulting interference pattern (the area where
the two laser beams commingle) is captured on film. When the film is
developed, it looks like a meaningless swirl of light and dark lines. But
as
soon as the developed film is illuminated by another laser beam, a
three-dimensional image of the original object appears.
The three-dimensionality of such images is not the only remarkable
characteristic of holograms. If a hologram of a rose is cut in half and
then
illuminated by a laser, each half will still be found to contain the
entire
image of the rose. Indeed, even if the halves are divided again, each
snippet of film will always be found to contain a smaller but intact
version
of the original image. Unlike normal photographs, every part of a hologram
contains all the information possessed by the whole.
The "whole in every part" nature of a hologram provides us with an
entirely
new way of understanding organization and order. For most of its history,
Western science has labored under the bias that the best way to understand
a
physical phenomenon, whether a frog or an atom, is to dissect it and study
its respective parts. A hologram teaches us that some things in the
universe
may not lend themselves to this approach. If we try to take apart
something
constructed holographically, we will not get the pieces of which it is
made,
we will only get smaller wholes.
This insight suggested to Bohm another way of understanding Aspect's
discovery. Bohm believes the reason subatomic particles are able to remain
in contact with one another regardless of the distance separating them is
not because
[CTRL] SNET: Guns (fwd)
visit my web site at http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon -- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 11:54:33 -0700 From: Lynford Theobald [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Eagles of Ephraim [EMAIL PROTECTED], SNET [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: SNET: Guns - SNETNEWS Mailing List Folks, I just received this from my friend Jim and thought you might be interested. It would seems that those who want to take away our guns have an agenda other than keeping up safe. Lynn Subject: Guns I thought you might be interested in these facts: www.gunowners.org Mar 1999 FIREARMS FACT-SHEET (1999) by Gun Owners Foundation 8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102 Springfield, VA 22151 Self-defense A. Guns save more lives than they take; prevent more injuries than they inflict * Law-abiding citizens use guns to defend themselves against criminals as many as 2.5 million times every year -- or about 6,850 times a day.1 This means that each year, firearms are used more than 60 times more often to protect the lives of honest citizens than to take lives.2 * Of the 2.5 million self-defense cases, as many as 200,000 are by women defending themselves against sexual abuse.3 * Citizens shoot and kill at least twice as many criminals as police do every year (1,527 to 606).4 And readers of Newsweek learned in 1993 that "only 2 percent of civilian shootings involved an innocent person mistakenly identified as a criminal. The "error rate" for the police, however, was 11 percent, more than five times as high."5 * Of the 2.5 million times citizens use their guns to defend themselves every year, the overwhelming majority merely brandish their gun or fire a warning shot to scare off their attackers. Less than 8% of the time, a citizen will kill or wound his/her attacker.6 * Handguns are the weapon of choice for self-defense. Citizens use handguns to protect themselves over 1.9 million times a year.7 Many of these self-defense handguns could be labeled as "Saturday Night Specials." B. Concealed carry laws help reduce crime * One-half million self-defense uses. Every year, as many as one-half million citizens defend themselves with a firearm away from home.8 * Florida. In the ten years following the passage of Florida's concealed carry law in 1987, there were 478,248 people who received permits to carry firearms.9 FBI reports show that the homicide rate in Florida, which in 1987 was much higher than the national average, fell 39% during that 10-year period. The Florida rate is now far below the national average.10 * Do firearms carry laws result in chaos? No. Consider the case of Florida. A citizen in the Sunshine State is almost twice as likely to be attacked by an alligator than to be assaulted by a concealed carry holder. During the first ten years that the Florida law was in effect, alligator attacks outpaced the number of crimes committed by carry holders by a 146 to 88 margin.11 * Nationwide. A comprehensive national study determined in 1996 that violent crime fell after states made it legal to carry concealed firearms. The results of the study showed: * States which passed concealed carry laws reduced their murder rate by 8.5%, rapes by 5%, aggravated assaults by 7% and robbery by 3%;12 and * If those states not having concealed carry laws had adopted such laws in 1992, then approximately 1,570 murders, 4,177 rapes, 60,000 aggravated assaults and over 11,000 robberies would have been avoided yearly.13 * Concealed Carry v. Waiting Period Laws. In 1976, both Georgia and Wisconsin tried two different approaches to fighting crime. Georgia enacted legislation making it easier for citizens to carry guns for self-defense, while Wisconsin passed a law requiring a 48 hour waiting period before the purchase of a handgun. What resulted during the ensuing years? Georgia's law served as a deterrent to criminals and helped drop its homicide rate by 21 percent. Wisconsin's murder rate, however, rose 33 percent during the same period.14 C. Criminals avoid armed citizens * Kennesaw, GA. In 1982, this suburb of Atlanta passed a law requiring heads of households to keep at least one firearm in the house. The residential burglary rate subsequently dropped 89% in Kennesaw, compared to the modest 10.4% drop in Georgia as a whole.15 * Ten years later (1991), the residential burglary rate in Kennesaw was still 72% lower than it had been in 1981, before the law was passed.16 * Nationwide. Statistical comparisons with other countries show that burglars in the United States are far less apt to enter an occupied home than their foreign counterparts who live in countries where fewer civilians own firearms. Consider the following rates showing how often a homeowner is present when a burglar strikes: * Homeowner occupancy rate in the gun control countries of Great
[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] Re: Amnesty Int
Catherine -- excellent post. Loved the Nationsbank bit - 5% yield on $110 Billion is, of course, $5.5 billion profit for NO RISK whatsoever. Now that's what I call a scam. David Fabulous post, Linda. You know, it used to amaze me at HUD. HUD had say $20-30 billion of subsidy, and was putting out $50-100 billion of mortgage insurance credit, doing workouts and various things on that defaulted credit, and doing all sorts of things in regulatory stuff. All the big private profits and stock market plays was in the mortgage insurance and regulatory areabut no one could ever see it..it was this magical stuff that only bankers understood. I will never forget when I first went to Washington, an endless stream of Congressional staff and OMB staff and HUD staff would feed me this complete yah-yah on why we could not do stuff that we for the taxpayers because of all this financial mumbo-jumbo that we bankers use that no one understood. I must have used the expression..."That's ridiculous, of course you can do this or that, you just have to.." Lee Williams has this great song about Jesus is a waymaker. Boy did I feel like a waymaker...all those years of finance suddenly culminating in helping people see that taxpayers and communities were one group and there was an endless series of win-wins. But it taught me that we don't know where most of the money is or how it works, particularly how it works by place. How does all this mumbo jumbo come down plop and infect or infuse the little ecosystem that I and my family swim around it. I think that is what we are all figuring out how to do. For example, I have read so many descriptions of the Federal Reserve/banking system that did not resonate. I do not think these guys are making a fortune charging interest on our currency. I think they are making a fortune in using the currency and the credit to understand how all the money works. Fed profits get paid into Treasury, but the data and knowledge is used to make sure the banking system can arbitrage the federal credit like crazy for rigged profits, but then manipulate the lending so that the taxpayers pay for the folks in the circle to control all the equity on highly leveraged basis. Bid rigging and insider trading. The bankers are using the banking system and the data that comes from doing that to manipulate and rig the finance system and equity ownership. Meantime, we think because the Fed's interest earnings are coming back to the Treasury we are getting something. I say, let's let them keep the interest and we control all the data and they can not see it or have access. It is what Negroponte said. In a digital age, data about money is worth more than money. One little story as illustration that I have told before, but will tell again. In the early 1990's the head of commercial banking at Nationsbank complained to me that the Mayor of DC was out of place for criticizing Nationsbank for not making small business loans in the district. He pointed out that small business loans were not profitable for Nationsbank, they could do better with their money elsewhere. The implication was that she was out of order and out of place interfering with the private sector. I pointed out that Greenspan was "pumping" short term money so the banks were able to access short term deposits and money at very low prices using the federal credit (that means guaranteed by the taxpayers)as well as using the federal credit to soak up huge amounts of retail deposits from all of us citizens around the country. In the meantime, Nationsbank had $110BB invested in what appeared to be medium and long term Treasury bonds, for an automatic profit of 5% above cost...(know as the spread). OK, so what that meant was that Nationsbank got to use our credit to suck up all our money and then reinvest it in bonds in which we guaranteed the payment plus interest and while they got huge profits because of Greenspan pumping away to flow the trouble banks out..the same people who guaranteed all the risk and provided all the money, were not good enough credits to have their businesses funded.. Now you know why corporations have a low cost of capital and you can't get funded starting a business.your money is to busy in big pools which consider you and me to be not good investments.. A week later I read that Nationsbank announced a new multibillion initiative with the Mayor to do mortgages and small business loans in the District.what a chuckle I got. That meant NationsBank bought another year or so getting 5% pure profit simply trading our bonds with our credit and guaranteesa pure money machine. It reminds me of a study we did at Dillon Read in the late 1980's. We discovered that if we had filled the trading floor chairs with monkeys and just run the average balance during the period, we would have made more money. If you want to see an example of
[CTRL] OEN 4/19/00
from: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ Click Here: A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe/A - The Cuban Boy Police Probe Attack by Cuban Diplomats Diplomatically immune beatings. WASHINGTON (AP) District police said Tuesday they have launched a criminal investigation into allegations that some 15 people from the Cuban diplomatic mission here assaulted Cuban-American protesters who were demanding that 6-year-old Elian Gonzalez remain in the United States. Some of the protesters suffered minor injuries in the fracas just before nightfall last Friday and were treated at local hospitals. The disclosure came as the State Department summoned a top Cuban diplomat here to express ''extreme concern'' over the beatings. The diplomat, asked for an explanation, did not comment on the allegations but said he hoped to obtain an explanation later, said a department official, who spoke on condition of anonymity. Sgt. Joe Gentile, a Metropolitan Police Department spokesman, said the incident is being investigated as a simple assault. He would not comment further. If Cuban diplomats were involved, they would not be subject to prosecution because of diplomatic immunity. But officials said that would not prevent an investigation from being carried out. Several protesters, speaking at a midday news conference Tuesday in front of the Cuban mission, said an all-male group emerged from the Cuban mission building and started pummeling the demonstrators, believed to number about 14. ''I was punched twice in the face,'' said Mauricio Claver Carone, a college student. ''I have bruises on my chest.'' Estrella Carie Noda, a U.S. government employee, said she suffered black and blue marks on her arms and legs. Brigida Benitez, a lawyer who was not at the news conference, said in a telephone interview that she was grabbed by the arms and thrown into the street. Her husband, Jorge, said that after suffering a blow to the head, he experienced fogginess and was diagnosed at a hospital as having a minor head trauma. He also suffered a contusion on his head. Others required hospitalization but it was not clear how many. Luis Fernandez, a spokesman for the Cuban mission, would not comment on the allegations. However, he said people hostile to Cuba and to Elian's father, Juan Miguel Gonzalez, ''have been performing provocative actions against the integrity and dignity of our diplomatic mission, disrupting its normal functions.'' The protesters insulted women and children at the mission and also passed objects through the fence, Fernandez said. Miami Mayor Joe Carollo, who was among those who spoke to reporters, said Attorney General Janet Reno told him Monday she planned to investigate the incident. Later, Reno said she had asked Carollo to make sure he reported the occurrence to the local police and said she would follow if the complainants had trouble in getting the assistance they needed. News media camera crews had been deployed at the interest section most of the day Friday but left before the incident took place. Witnesses said two agents from the Secret Service, which has responsibility for protecting diplomatic missions, struck the assailants with batons to induce them to stop. When reinforcements were summoned, the assailants retreated back onto the mission grounds, the witnesses said. The episode added yet another bizarre twist to the saga of Elian Gonzalez, who has been at the center of a custody fight between his Cuban father and Cuban-American relatives since he was rescued from the ocean south of Florida last November. His father has been here since April 6, trying to recover custody of his son. The news conference took place under a steady rain across the street from the three-story sand-colored structure that houses the Cuban mission. An official with a videocamera could be seen taping the proceedings from a second story window. Associated Press, April 18, 2000 - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, All My Relations. Omnia Bona Bonis, Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A
Re: [CTRL] Fw: Magic = technology we don't understand
EINSTEIN's original claim to fame was that
he worked for the Swiss patent office.
Was he for Democracy or Communism?
It could have colored his thinking.
ThePiedPiper
WK wrote:
According to Bernard d'Espagnat ("The Quantum Theory and Reality", Scientific
American, Nov.'79,) the
implication of Aspect's (and others)
experiments refuting Bell's Theorem and vindicating the Copenhagen
interpretation of quantum mechanics is that AT LEAST ONE of the
following basic assumptions about "Reality" and the scientific method
is wrong:
1. REALISM - the doctrine that regularities in observed phenomena are caused by
some physical reality whose
existence is INDEPENDENT of
human OBSERVERS;
2. INDUCTIVE INFERENCE is a valid means of reasoning and can be applied
freely, so that legitimate conclusions can be drawn from consistent
observations;
3. EINSTEIN SEPARABILITY (LOCALITY) - no influence of any kind can
travel faster than the speed of light.
"Robert F. Tatman" wrote:
The sender of this message included the following comment: "I don't know the
origin of this essay -- somebody copied it onto another list I'm on, but it
is an eye opener -- among
other things it shows underlying ideas behind the magical law of contagion."
My own reaction was that it validates the observation in *Illuminatus* that
"reality is a consensus statement."
- Original Message -
From: Ambrose Hawk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: snipped
Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2000 1:26 PM
Subject: Magic = technology we don't understand
The Universe as a Hologram
Does Objective Reality Exist, or is the Universe a Phantasm?
In 1982 a remarkable event took place. At the University of Paris, a
research team led by physicist Alain Aspect performed what may turn out to
be one of the most important experiments of the 20th century. You did not
hear about it on the evening news. In fact, unless you are in the habit of
reading scientific journals you probably have never even heard Aspect's
name, though there are some who believe his discovery may change the face
of
science.
Aspect and his team discovered that under certain circumstances subatomic
particles such as electrons are able to instantaneously communicate with
each other regardless of the distance separating them. It doesn't matter
whether they are 10 feet or 10 billion miles apart. Somehow each particle
always seems to know what the other is doing. The problem with this feat
is
that it violates Einstein's long-held tenet that no communication can
travel
faster than the speed of light. Since traveling faster than the speed of
light is tantamount to breaking the time barrier, this daunting prospect
has
caused some physicists to try to come up with elaborate ways to explain
away
Aspect's findings. But it has inspired others to offer even more radical
explanations.
University of London physicist David Bohm, for example,believes Aspect's
findings imply that objective reality does not exist, that despite its
apparent solidity the universe is at heart a phantasm, a gigantic and
splendidly detailed hologram. To understand why Bohm makes this startling
assertion, one must first understand a little about holograms. A hologram
is
a three-dimensional photograph made with the aid of a laser.
To make a hologram, the object to be photographed is first bathed in the
light of a laser beam. Then a second laser beam is bounced off the
reflected
light of the first and the resulting interference pattern (the area where
the two laser beams commingle) is captured on film. When the film is
developed, it looks like a meaningless swirl of light and dark lines. But
as
soon as the developed film is illuminated by another laser beam, a
three-dimensional image of the original object appears.
The three-dimensionality of such images is not the only remarkable
characteristic of holograms. If a hologram of a rose is cut in half and
then
illuminated by a laser, each half will still be found to contain the
entire
image of the rose. Indeed, even if the halves are divided again, each
snippet of film will always be found to contain a smaller but intact
version
of the original image. Unlike normal photographs, every part of a hologram
contains all the information possessed by the whole.
The "whole in every part" nature of a hologram provides us with an
entirely
new way of understanding organization and order. For most of its history,
Western science has labored under the bias that the best way to understand
a
physical phenomenon, whether a frog or an atom, is to dissect it and study
its respective parts. A hologram teaches us that some things in the
universe
may not lend themselves to this approach. If we try to take apart
something
constructed holographically, we will not get the pieces of which it is
made,
[CTRL] Fwd: Filmed Columbine Shooter NOT Harris or Klebold!
4.19.00 Columbine Revisited: Filmed Shooter NOT Harris or Klebold! Information EVERYONE needs to know. NewsHawk® Inc. +++ + + + + + + + + 2.15.00 Shooter Filmed in Columbine Cafeteria NOT Harris or Klebold! Video "Withdrawn" From Public Circulation by Law Enforcement! --Image Attached Some footage from whatever was left of a Columbine High School security camera video--after FBI "special effects" wizards got through with it--which had been released to the media, shows an individual in a semi-crouch position, aiming a rifle into the main part of the school cafeteria. The videotape was filmed by the security camera in the Columbine High School cafeteria on April 20, 1999. The attached still from this video, taken from a TV broadcast of a portion of the video, has pretty dismal image quality. However, ONE thing undeniably is clear. This person is wearing a short-sleeved, light-colored shirt or T-shirt. Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold had SUPPOSEDLY--according to NUMEROUS accounts--entered the cafeteria only moments before this video was taken, clad in a FULL-LENGTH black trenchcoats. Eyewitness accounts from AFTER the shooting in the cafeteria ALSO describe gunmen wearing black trenchcoats. This person is wearing no such clothing. So where's the trenchcoat? Who IS this person? Witnesses ranging from Brooks Brown outside in the parking lot to witnesses in the cafeteria report that the two gunmen were garbed in full-length BLACK trenchcoats, and some cafeteria witnesses reported they saw THREE assailants, at least some of whom wore MASKS. The fact that some of the assailants wore MASKS makes allegations that Harris and Klebold were the ONLY gunmen significantly more dubious. In fact it calls into question claims the two were even shooters at all. Some proficient imaging experts have worked with the attached image; which depicts "someone" on a landing several steps above the main area of the cafeteria, wearing a light colored short-sleeved shirt or T-shirt and taking CAREFUL aim with a rifle at targets in the cafeteria proper. Although the results are somewhat preliminary, the clarified image, according to a consensus of opinions from these imaging pros and some other people, indicates the following. The shooter is in the half-kneeling position used by TRAINED military sharpshooters. Some object of furniture or in fact an actual rifle support is being used as a brace to steady the weapon; greatly increasing the ability to aim precisely at targets. This person was a TRAINED SHOOTER, positioned carefully and securely and in NO HURRY at all. He is NOT just "spraying" the area wildly with bullets, as was reported to have been the case with the trenchcoated, MASKED assailants PRESUMED to have been Harris and Klebold. The shooter is apparently wearing a cap, with either a ponytail or some kind of strap as for eyeglasses hanging down the back of his neck. The weapon (rifle) being used has a sling attached. The shooter appears to be significantly taller and older than either Harris or Klebold. As many have pointed out, this appears to be someone in their 20s. This shooter appears to have very dark and probably long hair unlike either Harris or Klebold, and again is taller than either one. The shooter depicted here is wearing what appears to be either a communications device or POSSIBLY a handgun, in holster-like apparatus around his waist in the rear. AGAIN: of course, he is NOT wearing any full-length black trenchcoat: a CRUCIAL fact which was reported by MANY witnesses before, during and after the cafeteria shootings; in reference--OBVIOUSLY--to persons OTHER than the trained marksman depicted in this image. Preliminary but well-founded conclusions? The shooter depicted in the image is definitely NOT Eric Harris or Dylan Klebold. It's most fortunate that the FBI's "special effects" imaging wizards somehow neglected to mutilate or simply remove this extremely significant photographic proof that OTHER GUNMEN were definitely involved in the massacre at Columbine. Undoubtedly though, this lapse on their part is the MAIN reason that within one day of this video footage having been released to media, it was "RECALLED" or withdrawn (unbe-LIEVE-able!!) by Jefferson County Sheriff's goons--UNDOUBTEDLY at the insistence of the FBI and/or other feds. RECALLED!! This most outrageous action on the part of sheriffs in Jefferson County, Colo. literally proves the case: the released video footage contains CRUCIAL EVIDENCE of a much wider and MORE SINISTER conspiracy regarding the Columbine High School massacre than the public has been consistently and unrelentingly led to believe through intentional disinformation and manipulation of the "news". (Revised 2.15.00) John Quinn/NewsHawk® Inc.
[CTRL] Environment News Service: Indoor Plants May Not Cure Sick Building Syndrome
http://ens.lycos.com/ens/jan2000/2000L-01-13-01.html Title: Environment News Service: Indoor Plants May Not Cure Sick Building Syndrome Search for: Lycos HomeNewsEnvironment Top News Headlines Environment News Message Board Personal News Page Environment Websites News Web Guide Current Events Chat Science News E-WireInstant Updates Environment News Index Environment Events Calendar ENS Features EcoTravel EDF Scorecard Shopping Green SustainableBusiness Cartoons Environment Indoor Plants May Not Cure Sick Building Syndrome PERTH, Australia, January 13, 2000 (ENS) - They may look beautiful but forget about buying a few indoor plants to improve the quality of the air in your home or office, says environmental scientist Peter Dingle of Murdoch University in Western Australia. A variety of organic molecules known as volatile organic compounds (VOCs) have been found in office air and linked to sick building syndrome, a range of symptoms that leaves people feeling tired, irritable and unwell but with no specific illness. Corn plant imparts a touch of green to a New York City office. (Photo courtesy Earthborn Indoor Gardeners) Furniture, carpeting, and cleaning products can contain dangerous chemicals like formaldehyde, polyethylene, and benzene, that can emit gases into the air. For example, formaldehyde is found in particleboard, some plywood, adhesives, fabrics, and some furniture. Formaldehyde is a toxic chemical that can irritate the eyes, skin and throat. It is thought to cause nausea, dizziness and lethargy at levels as low as 50 parts per billion (ppb). It may also aggravate asthma and hay fever and is a potential carcinogen. Aside from obvious moves such as improving ventilation and removing sources of VOCs, potted plants have been suggested as a potential solution to the problem - although evidence that they remove pollutants is sparse. "Everybody believes plants are the answer to sick buildings and indoor air pollution," says Dingle. "It's one of the great urban myths." To test whether this particular myth has any basis in fact, Dingle and his colleagues examined the effects of plants on levels of formaldehyde. Dingle and his colleagues measured formaldehyde levels in offices where the occupants had complained of poor air quality. They studyied 18 office buildings in Perth and 20 temporary buildings on the Murdoch University campus. These structures are typically built using major sources of formaldehyde - pressed wood products such as plywood and some types of foam insulation. Average levels of formaldehyde ranged from 10 ppb to 78 ppb in the office buildings. But concentrations in the temporary university buildings ranged from 420 ppb to 2,110 ppb - far in excess of the World Health Organization's safety standard of 82 ppb. Dingle then set up five experimental cabins each with a floor space of eight square metres (86 square feet). Into each cabin, he placed five plants every two days until there were 20 plants in each cabin. With up to 10 plants in a cabin, formaldehyde concentrations remained unchanged. With 20 plants, average levels of formaldehyde were only reduced from 856 ppb to 761 ppb. If potted plants do help treat sick building syndrome, Dingle concludes, the effect is psychological. "They really make a place more comfortable and beautiful, but they do not clean the air of pollutants to any significant degree." Spider plants in the middle row blend into an indoor landscape. (Photo courtesy Michigan State University) Jeff Llewellyn, an expert on indoor air quality with Britain's Building Research Establishment in Watford, says that the importance of such psychological factors shouldn't be underestimated. He also points out that the ability of plants to remove other pollutants has not been adequately studied, "Formaldehyde is but one pollutant," Llewellyn said. Indoor plants are apparently useful in removing some pollutants. Research in the United States at the National Aeronautics and Space Administration's National Space Technology Laboratories in Mississippi has demonstrated the ability of common houseplants such as spider plants (Chlorophytum elatum var.vittatum) and golden pothos (Scindapeus aureus) to remove such indoor air pollutants. B.C. Wolverton, Ph.D., a NASA researcher, presented a report in 1985 that found formaldehyde and carbon monoxide were removed by spider plants and golden pothos from closed chambers. Pollutant source removal or modification is an effective approach to resolving an indoor air quality problem when sources are known and control is possible. Routine maintenance of heating, ventilation and air conditioning systems such as periodic cleaning or
[CTRL] Happy Easter
A HREF="http://www2.bluemountain.com/cards/box7749a/uun7pwmmrpcbax.htm" /A hA HREF="http://www2.bluemountain.com/cards/box7749a/uun7pwmmrpcbax.htm"ttp: //www2.bluemountain.com/cards/box7749a/uun7pwmmrpcbax.htm/A A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Sleeping with Extra-Terrestrials
Editorial Reviews Amazon.com "It's easy to imagine a TV sitcom making fun of a character who visits psychics and astrologers and channels Sarah Bernhardt," opines Wendy Kaminer, "but virtually impossible to imagine it laughing at anyone who takes the Bible literally and believes that someone named Jonah once lived in a whale." She goes on to demonstrate that, despite the complaints from many religious people that the "secular media" mocks their beliefs, American culture still shows a high degree of respect for the faithful and pious, while popular hostility towards atheists continues to rise. But "why should it be socially acceptable to make fun of psychics and not priests?" That's one of many provocative questions Kaminer raises in Sleeping with Extra-Terrestrials, a critical assessment of the extent to which U.S. society has succumbed to the irrational. Kaminer goes on to sift her way through pop spirituality "classics" like The Celestine Prophecy and Conversations with God and visits seminars by New Age gurus (leaving her "amused and dismayed by the painful stupidities that people embrace to ease their fears of death"), but Sleeping with Extra-Terrestrials is not merely an assault on religion--Kaminer also attacks purveyors of junk science, the influence of the recovered-memory movement on both feminism and the American court system, and the "cyberspacy" claims made by boosters of technological progress. Whether she's considering the extensive belief in UFOs and alien abductions or wondering why so many people worshipped Princess Diana in the hour of her death, Kaminer shows how an unrestrained culture of faith "encourages passivity, gullibility, and a childlike craving for authority." Rationalists will find her skepticism a refreshing tonic. --Ron Hogan The New York Times Book Review, Caroline Knapp The world, it seems, has gone to hell in a handbasket, and Kaminer--a sharp, outspoken thinker--sees evidence of this at every turn. From Kirkus Reviews A thorough examination of faith-based beliefs, from visitations by angels to abductions by aliens, with a detailed list of the problems these beliefs create in society at large. Cultural commentator Kaminer (I'm Dysfunctional, You're Dysfunctional: The Recovery Movement and Other Self-Help Fashions, 1992, etc.) covers broad ground in her criticisms. Shes not afraid to lump together established religious groups and the followers of New Age movements in her presentation of their influence on... read more Book Description In Sleeping with Extra-Terrestrials, Wendy Kaminer argues that we are a society intoxicated by the irrational: religion, spirituality, and popular therapies threaten to replace rational thought with supernaturalism and impassioned but unexamined personal testimony. Ranging from our fascination with angels, aliens, and near- death experiences to the rise of junk science, the recovery movement, and the digital culture, Kaminer points out the amusing and ominous effects of our deference to... read more A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust
Re: [CTRL] Easter Canceled This Year!
4/19/00 I thought it might be intended as a joke. It wasn't a gut buster, but sort of cute. Except for me, atheists aren't very funny. Get used to the shock god guys. One day soon you will read an article similar to this and it will be real. The end is nigh. Enjoy it while you can. Joshua2 = Easter Canceled This Year! Author Unknown Jerusalem, April 15, 1995- -Archeologists who have been excavating in the hills above Jerusalem announced today the discovery of a 2000-year-old mummy bearing puncture wounds through the hands and feet and a deep laceration in the lower left chest. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Easter Cancelled This Year!
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[CTRL] AF News 20m Apr 00 Part 2
WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a prelude to war! 000593. Guard, Reserve help overcome shortage, transition to EAF by Staff Sgt. A.J. Bosker Air Force Print News WASHINGTON -- The shortage of trained active-duty aircrews and the current operations tempo have increased the Air Force's reliance on the Air National Guard and Air Force Reserve to help accomplish the mission and make the transition to an expeditionary aerospace force, said Secretary of the Air Force F. Whitten Peters. "We are an integrated Total Force and rely on the critical contributions of our Guardsmen and Reservists," Peters said. "We have been moving a lot of what had been active-duty requirements into the Guard and Reserve to free up resources for other tasks. "The total number of the active-duty force will not vary much over the next few years so it is critical that the Air Force effectively allocate its manpower where needed most," he said. According to the secretary, the Guard and Reserve have been moving into less traditional roles at home. The ANG is transitioning to F-16 training missions at Kelly Air Force Base, Texas, and Springfield ANG Base, Ohio, and to F-15 training at Tyndall AFB, Fla. The Reserve is also transitioning to the F-16 training mission at Luke AFB, Ariz., and is conducting test support at Edwards AFB, Calif.; flight check functions at Air Force depots at Hill AFB, Utah; Robins AFB, Ga.; and Tinker AFB, Okla. Additionally, both Guard and Reserve instructor pilots are contributing to the primary pilot-training mission at specialized undergraduate pilot-training bases. "Our efforts to engage with the Guard and Reserve have been very successful," Peters said. "On a recent trip to Columbus AFB, Miss., I had the opportunity for an orientation flight. My instructor pilot was a Guardsman, the IP in the other aircraft in our formation was a Reservist and his 'back-seater' was an active-duty first assignment instructor pilot -- not an unusual occurrence any longer." The Guard and Reserve instructor pilot associate unit program initiative is designed to help with the Air Force's current active duty pilot retention problem. Associate units have no assigned aircraft and use active-duty aircraft for training and mission accomplishment. "We don't have a quick-fix for the retention problem, and at the same time, we cannot deploy without experienced pilots leading our younger pilots on their wing," said Brig. Gen. Walter E. Buchanan III, 325th Fighter Wing commander, Tyndall AFB. Tyndall's ANG F-15 IP program will allow 21 active-duty pilots to return to the combat air forces. "(Our) partnership with the Guard is a good way to strike a balance that allows us to take advantage of the ANG's resident F-15 experience, while trying to bridge our current pilot gap," Buchanan said. The 944th FW commander, Col. Craig Ferguson at Luke AFB, agrees. "Our Reserve associate program is a logical extension of the expeditionary aerospace force concept. It gives the Total Force the option of capturing experienced fighter pilots who leave active duty but who still want to be a part of the Air Force Reserve. It also allows more active-duty fighter pilots to fill positions at operational assignments around the world." The Reserve F-16 IP program at Luke will allow 45 pilots to return to other active-duty combat units. Establishing an IP associate program expands America's total fighter pilot force, captures invested training dollars and helps alleviate our active-duty pilot shortage," said Gen. Lloyd W. "Fig" Newton, Air Education and Training Command commander. "Additionally, if we are going to fly and fight together, it's logical that we train together." "Each of these forces -- active-duty, Guard and Reserve -- have unique and complementary characteristics that make the Air Force a strong and versatile team," Peters said. "Our goal is to develop the right Total Force combination to accomplish the mission and successfully complete the transition to an expeditionary aerospace force." 000596. General Handy now Air Force vice chief of staff WASHINGTON (AFPN) -- General John W. Handy received his fourth star before assuming duties as the Air Force vice chief of staff, April 13. As vice chief of staff, the general presides over the Air Staff and serves as a member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Joint Requirements Oversight Council. Before becoming vice chief of staff, he was the deputy chief of staff for installations and logistics, headquarters U.S. Air Force. Handy succeeds Gen. Lester L. Lyles, who is assuming command of Air Force Materiel Command, Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, Ohio. 000600. Retiree dental program: different legislation, different rules AURORA, Colo. (AFPN) -- With the fiscal 2000 National Defense Authorization Act, the Department of Defense has the necessary authority, unavailable a year ago, to explore options for enhancing the TRICARE Retiree Dental Program.
[CTRL] AF News 20m Apr 00 Part 1
WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a prelude to war! 000595. AEF schedule eases mission, brings predictability by Staff Sgt. Jerome Baysmore Air Combat Command EGLIN AIR FORCE BASE, Fla. (AFPN) -- For members of the 33d Fighter Wing "Nomads," constant deployments have long been a way of life. However, since the Air Force launched the Aerospace Expeditionary Force schedule in October 1999, many "Nomads" are reaping the benefits of fewer deployments, further intervals between contingencies, and supporting both on a more predictable basis. The 33d Fighter Wing has two operational F-15 squadrons that are each assigned to separate AEFs. The 58th Fighter Squadron "Gorillas" support AEF 2 and the 60th Fighter Squadron "Fighting Crows" support AEF 4. "When your deployments are forecasted, you can plan for them and make arrangements before leaving," said Staff Sgt. Ken Lloyd, 60th Fighter Squadron dedicated crew chief. "The AEF schedule helps me do that because I know ahead of time when I'm leaving." In December 1999, Lloyd was one of more than 550 maintenance troops, pilots and support people, who deployed along with F-15Cs from the 60th FS to Keflavik, Iceland, as part of AEF 4. Lloyd said he appreciates the advance notice of deploying with the AEF and is relieved he won't deploy again until March 2001. "It seems to work a lot better than when I was deployed before, with only a few weeks notice," he said. "Now you know about deployments ahead of time and you can prepare yourself better for them." The Air Force's evolution toward an expeditionary aerospace force is intended to bring stability to the operations tempo, to provide commanders with rapidly responsive forces, and forces tailored for specific needs during peacetime contingencies. By operating on a known AEF schedule, ongoing deployments become more predictable for Air Force people and their families. Lloyd noted the previous operations tempo of his job here, before AEF implementation, caused strains in his family life. During his first year with the "Nomads," he spent about nine months deployed. "The first year I got here, in 1996, I only spent three months at home," he said. "I enjoy going TDY, but while I was away, my wife had to take care of the house, my son and she had her own full-time job." Lloyd said he and his wife filed for a divorce in December 1999. Although he doesn't blame the military for this, he feels being away supporting contingencies had a lot to do with it. The AEF schedule brings welcome predictability to family members in the home as well as to the work place. Kat Scott, wife of Capt. Terry Scott, 58th FS pilot, noted her husband once received an hour's notice on New Year's Eve to report to the squadron with his bags packed. She said she understands it's going to happen sometimes; "it's part of their job," she said. "The AEF concept is a great thing," said Kat, "now the military lets us know ahead of time when our spouse will be deployed, which allows us to take care of family matters ahead of time. We can prepare mentally and physically -- it's a good improvement." Technical Sgt. John Davis, 33rd Maintenance Squadron production superintendent, who recently returned from the AEF 4 deployment, also feels the AEF schedule helps make it easier to plan for family activities throughout the year. "The AEF schedule makes it easier because you can plan for family things," Davis said. "Knowing ahead of time when I'm going to deploy, is easier for my wife and son mentally. I have time to sit down with my son and explain to him when I am going away and when I'm coming back." Captain Murray "Ord" Nance, 58th FS pilot, said he couldn't agree more. "It doesn't matter if I miss a holiday every once in awhile supporting a deployment," he said. "It matters when they say you only have two weeks to prepare for one. It's not a big hassle for me or my family anymore because we have time to plan for and around my deployments." For most "Nomads," the EAF concept is a welcome change. Nance said the AEF schedule gives people time to satisfy their mission training requirements and prepare the necessary equipment to support a contingency. The pilot was among wing members deployed to Incirlik Air Base, Turkey, supporting Operation Northern Watch. "I went to ONW in September 1999, and I knew I was going six months prior to the deployment," he said. "I was happy I knew about it ahead of time and that the time we were to deploy didn't change. It allowed us time to get the people and the jets ready to deploy." The 33rd FW "Nomads" aren't scheduled for another deployment until the 58th FS leaves later this year as part of AEF 2. 000594. Tomorrow's AF faces many challenges by Staff Sgt. A.J. Bosker Air Force Print News WASHINGTON -- Tomorrow's aerospace force will deal with many operational complexities including those dictated by delicate political coalitions, said Gen. John Jumper, commander
Re: [CTRL] Easter Cancelled This Year!
Yes humor, I'm sorry that it is something that you have to "remember". I thought it was funny (I still do), I think that you taking it so personal is humorous too...There are a lot of "comedies" on television that I don'tthink are funny...should I write the a letter and tell them that I don't find their shows funny? Or have I missed something? When you say "...have I missed something?"...maybe you have. Maybe it went right over your head. Oh, HUMOUR! I remember that, but I'm sure that is not how it goes, isn't humour supposed to be funny? Or have I missed something? Silas
Re: [CTRL] Easter Cancelled This Year!
"Two guys walk into a bar and order drinks, the bartender sa..." Wait wait wait What BAR?!? What guys??? DRINKS?? There are many drinks one could order at a bar...Reference please. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] How to handle a synthetic person.
__ A - I N F O S N E W S S E R V I C E http://www.ainfos.ca/ hello every one. here's a report from a guy called Bob Oslen (he's a major activist!), regarding the water c risis in Bolivia. just a reminder: the bolivian government sold her water company to the foreign Bechtel company, after a while the company had more then doubled the price per family for water, the poor Bolivian who could not stand the prices started revolting and finally kicked Bechtel out!!! R. Cochabamba, Bolivia Thursday - April 13, 2000 Dear Friends: It has been one hell of a week here in Cochabamba. Humble Bolivians, led by a 45 year old machinist, kicked the Bechtel Corporation out of the country after one of the world's largest companies tried to pick their pockets over water. I'd like to see a consumer revolt in my homestate of California match that. The people stood down President Banzer and martial law. Some did not survive what happened here, including Victor Hugo, the 17 year old killed by an army bullet here Saturday. Those people we mourn and honor. I am in awe, as well, at what we were able to accomplish together, all across the globe, using the Internet. Hacking away at this keyboard in a corner of the Andes that few ever think about, the news of what happened here went out to thousands and thousands of people. In a matter of hours, with a little research and a lot of support, we took the Bechtel Corporation and turned it from being "the invisible hand" behind the scenes to a corporation on the hot seat. Hundreds upon hundreds of e-mails forced the corporate giant to respond, with a hedging P.R. statement that became headlines in Bolivia and forced the Bolivian government to say once and for all, Bechtel's water company isn't coming back. The solidarity and support expressed around the world was utterly amazing, messages from Mexico, England, Canada, Iceland, India, Pakistan, Egypt, Nepal, Australia, all over the U.S. and elsewhere, giving people here heard that the whole world was indeed watching. And how can I ever forget those amazing New Zealanders who cared so much about the people here that they drove a bright red fire truck, adorned with protest banners, to the Bolivian consulate in Auckland and hosed the place down (story below). God I love that! And we made the powerful speak. This morning I received an e-mail from a Finnish journalist in Washington alerting me that some enterprising reporter (who probably got our material from one of you) asked the President of the World Bank Wednesday about Bolivia, giving him a public chance to stick his foot properly in his mouth (see below). I am grateful, very grateful, to all of you who became citizens of the world, spreading these alerts and requests like wildfire and demanding that reporters cover the story across the world. Gathering and confirming the facts was no small challenge in the midst of press censorship and key sources having to go into hiding. I want to thank Tom Kruse, Lee Cridland, Kathryn Ledebur, and Theo Roncken for their incredible help in getting the facts. I want to thank as well my family, Lynn, Elizabeth, Miguel and Simone the dog for their patience as I neglected them entirely for ten days. Even though the formal "state of emergency" is still in effect (see below) I knew life was returning to normal Tuesday morning when the doorbell rang early, our friend who had left his bus in our driveway (stuck by the barricades days earlier) had come to claim it. In the street our neighbors were running off to work. Once again our biggest problem was the neighbor's dog sneaking in to chase the cat. Thanks for your patience and interest in all these messages. I promise to be quiet for a while. Despite it all, Bolivia is still is the most peaceful place I know. Despite the end of national protests over water and other issues, the 90 day "state of emergency" declared by President Banzer is still in effect here, including an evening curfew, limits on public meetings, and the ability to arrest without warrant. While it is unclear how much of these rules will be enforced, labor, human rights and civic groups have demanded that it be lifted. People in the U.S. can help by contacting the Bolivian Embassy in Washington to demand that it be ended: Tel: 202-483-4410; Fax: 328-3712. RLD BANK HEAD COMMENTS ON WATER PROTEST AS BOLIVIAN PROTEST LEADER HEADS TO WASHINGTON On Wednesday the director of the World Bank, James Wolfensohn, commented directly on the Bolivia water protests and the World Bank's connection. His comments, provided by a Finnish correspondent, come as thousands prepare to descend on Washington to protest Bank policies in developing nations. According the Finnish reporter who attended the Bank leader's news conference in Washington, Mr. Wolfensohn argued that giving public services away leads inevitably to waste and said that countries like Bolivia need to have a "a
[CTRL] [BRIGADE] Tales From the War Zone
WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a prelude to war! Dear Brigade, "Right now, the Chinese Communists sell us 40 percent of their exports and they take 1 percent of ours -- the same percentage they took in 1900, a hundred years ago. Who's negotiating these deals? And what are they using that money for?..." - PJB Great column from the Chicago Sun Times! GO PAT GO Linda From: BBowes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2000 10:22 PM To: Linda Muller Subject: MD Press Coverage of Buchanan at Teamsters Rally Tales from the war zone Jack W. Germond and Jules Witcover WHEN SEVERAL thousand Teamsters rallied at the foot of the Capitol this week against permanent normal trade relations (NTR) status for China, among those awaiting his turn to speak was Pat Buchanan, the Republican- turned-Reform Party presidential candidate. A local union member came up and offered him his shiny blue Teamsters jacket. Mr. Buchanan slipped off his own gray suit coat, handed it to an aide and slipped on the union garb. Then he proceeded to piggy back on the labor rally to make what started out as a tirade against free trade with China and ended up a pitch of sorts for his White House bid. "Right now," he said, "the Chinese Communists sell us 40 percent of their exports and they take 1 percent of ours -- the same percentage they took in 1900, a hundred years ago. Who's negotiating these deals? And what are they using that money for? They're persecuting Christians, they're persecuting folks like [Chinese dissident] Harry Wu, they're using that money to buy weapons to threaten our friends in Taiwan" as well as the United States itself. "You know something," he went on, "if I were there in the White House, and they came into my office and said, 'We want permanent NTR,' I'd tell them: 'You stop persecuting Christians and you stop threatening our country, or you guys have sold your last pair of chopsticks anywhere in the United States of America!'" The Teamster crowd loved it. Warming to its cheers, Mr. Buchanan promised that rather than have U.S. Trade Representative Charlene Barshefsky negotiating trade deals with China, "if I get there [the Oval Office] it won't be Charlene Barshefsky sitting down in Beijing, it'll be Jim Hoffa!" Mr. Buchanan's political battlefield promotion of the Teamsters president, standing on the speaker's platform behind him, really ignited the crowd. "Hoffa! Hoffa!" The shouts came up to greet the Reform Party candidate. Mr. Buchanan decided to quit while he was ahead, and after a few more rousing words, left to thunderous applause. He doffed the Teamsters jacket, returned it to its owner, slipped on his suit jacket and waded through a throng of glad-handers. Thus is the presidential campaign of the man who elected to leave his lifelong home in the Republican Party for this free-lance bid. He is a guerrilla political warrior living off the land, seizing whatever opportunities offer themselves to get his message out among like-minded Americans. This was not a Buchanan rally nor was there any way of knowing how many of those cheering Teamsters might vote for him in November, but he turned it into one for a few minutes. While he continues to take forums where he can find them, Mr. Buchanan is working hard to get the Reform Party on the ballot in all 50 states -- the task set for anyone who wants to be considered the party's nominee. With Minnesota Gov. Jesse Ventura and multimillionaire playboy Donald Trump having taken themselves out of contention, and party founder Ross Perot expected to do the same, Mr. Buchanan appears to have the inside track by default. With the nomination comes $12.6 million in federal funds, which isn't close to the $65.5 million Al Gore and George W. Bush will get, but it's not bad for an experienced guerrilla warrior like Mr. Buchanan. His prime objective once he has the nomination, to be decided at the party convention in Long Beach in August, will be to get into the debates with Mr. Gore and Mr. Bush in the fall. He says he thinks he can have 15 percent support in the major polls by then, one yardstick for admission set by the Commission on Presidential Debates. But the commission will decide whether he has "a realistic chance of winning" (another of its yardsticks), and that will be tough. In that regard, Mr. Buchanan says, he hopes the pressure of public and news media attention will get the Federal Election Commission to intercede on his behalf, just as such attention generated by John McCain in the New York primary earlier this year finally got Gov. George Pataki to open ballot access to him. Meanwhile, he keeps living off the land -- and keeping his powder dry. Jack W. Germond and Jules Witcover write from The Sun's Washington Bureau. Mr. Germond's latest book is "Fat Man in a Middle Seat -- 40 Years of Covering Politics" (Random House, 1999). Mr. Witcover's latest book is "No Way
[CTRL] MISSING TIME: A Mind Control Comic Strip (On-Line)
Now Showing at http://www.mackwhite.com in the Zircon Theatre: MISSING TIME -- A Tale of Mind Control and Assassination . . . Filmed in Startling Gif-O-Vision . . . * Coming Soon: THE MILLENNIUM MURDERS -- Rex Maynard Discovers the Terrifying TRUTH behind the Y2K Hoax . . . * Held Over by Popular Demand: OPERATION BLUE BEAM -- A Rex Maynard Thriller . . . Psychedelic Toad-Licking Cultists in Wrestler Masks Stage Princess Diana Apparitions . . . A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Baghdad, Belgrade and Moscow Collaborate Against Washington
WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a prelude to war! STRATFOR.COM Weekly Global Intelligence Update 19 April 2000 Baghdad, Belgrade and Moscow Collaborate Against Washington SUMMARY Russia has reportedly brokered a deal to upgrade Iraqi air defense systems. The weapons upgrades Iraq could receive are of the same type that may have downed an F-117 stealth plane over Serbia during Operation Allied Force. After a visit to Belgrade, Iraq's defense minister met his Russian counterpart in Moscow April 14. There is a substantial history of military cooperation among the three countries, and Iraq and Yugoslavia have recently indicated a possible alliance. The possibility of such an alliance, tacitly supported by Russia may be nearing reality and could threaten U.S. policy. ANALYSIS Iraqi Defense Minister Col. Gen. Sultan Hashim Ahmad arrived in Moscow April 14 and met with Russian Defense Minister Igor Sergeyev, reported Interfax. Prior to his arrival in Moscow, Ahmad was in Belgrade, Yugoslavia. The past military cooperation among the three countries offers an explanation of Ahmad's travels. The three may be cooperating to create simultaneous crises for U.S. policy. Prior to and during Operation Allied Force, Yugoslavia and Iraq maintained close military cooperation. A Yugoslav military delegation, headed by the deputy defense minister, visited Baghdad just before commencement of the NATO bombing of Serbia, according to a March 1999 Jerusalem Post report. Both nations, threatened by U.S. warplanes, needed improved air defense systems. Serb technicians regularly serviced Iraq's Soviet-made MiG-21s and MiG-29s, according to the Jerusalem Post. The two nations also reportedly worked out a deal. In return for Yugoslavia rebuilding Iraqi air defenses, Baghdad would provide Belgrade with oil and cash to sustain the war effort. The Washington Times in March 1999 cited a U.S. intelligence official who said that some of Iraq's integrated air-defense system, including surface-to-air missiles (SAM), was of "Yugoslav origin" and may have been sent from Russia via Yugoslavia. The paper also claimed that there were reports of limited contacts between Iraqi and Yugoslav air-defense officials several months prior to Operation Allied Force. During Operation Allied Force on March 27, 1999, a U.S. Air Force F-117 stealth fighter-bomber went down over Yugoslavia. A U.S. Pentagon official initially assessed that a Serb SAM hit the F-117, reported The Washington Times. The official said the plane apparently dropped below 20,000 feet, at which time the Serbs optically spotted the plane and launched either an SA-3 or SA-6 SAM. The report also cited several unnamed U.S. sources, who speculated that Russia had helped upgrade Serbia's air defenses. The Times of London reported Oct. 7 that Russia, in violation of an arms embargo, had actually supplied the Yugoslav army with new warheads, fuses and sensors for its SA-6 missiles. The Pentagon has still not officially disclosed its findings on what caused the F-117 to go down. Operation Allied Force stretched U.S. forces to their limits. When the bombing campaign began in March 1999, the aircraft carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt, stationed in the Persian Gulf, re-deployed to assist the war effort. Another carrier, the USS Kitty Hawk re- deployed from the Pacific region to cover the Persian Gulf - leaving the entire Pacific region void of a U.S. carrier presence for 86 days. Additionally, many U.S. warplanes stationed in Turkey to enforce the northern no-fly zone in Iraq were used for missions in Yugoslavia - leaving the northern no-fly zone under-patrolled. Recently, Iraq and Yugoslavia have expressed renewed enthusiasm in mutual cooperation. A Yugoslav delegation, headed by Deputy Prime Minister Maja Gojkovic, was in Baghdad March 28 and met with Iraqi Vice President Taha Yasin Ramadan, who expressed Iraq's eagerness to expand comprehensive cooperation with Yugoslavia. Iraq now appears to be looking to Yugoslavia and Russia to upgrade its air defenses. Interfax Russian News reported April 16, 2000, that Iraqi Defense Minister Col. Gen. Sultan Hashim Ahmad arrived in Moscow via Belgrade. In Moscow, Iraq's defense minister met with Russian Defense Minister Igor Sergeyev. On the same day, the London-based Sunday Telegraph reported that Russian military officials have brokered a deal with Belarus to rebuild Iraq's air defenses. The report stated that the Belarussian state-owned military hardware company, Beltechexport, agreed to upgrade Iraqi air defense systems. Under the deal, Beltechexport will upgrade Iraqi anti-aircraft guns as well as Iraq's SA-3 anti- aircraft missiles. Also, Iraqi air defense crews will reportedly be sent to Belarus for specialized training, where they will be familiarized with the latest Russian electronic warfare systems. If the report is true, it would not be the first time Iraq has attempted to upgrade its air defenses to
Re: [CTRL] Easter Cancelled This Year!
Mike, this is not my story, I'm the sarcastic barstard who merely responds Regards Silas Silas -Original Message-From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of uaicvtmbSent: 19 April 2000 22:32To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [CTRL] Easter Canceled This Year!At 02:54 PM 4/19/2000 +0100, you wrote:To: Silas:Where in the World did you get this "Story"? I never read anything about what you hadmentioned back in 1995, which is the Date of the Article. The Rest of us Christian Conservativeswould like an answer. Thanks, and By the Way - The Only One That Can Cancel Easter is GOD.!HAPPY EASTER SILAS !~ Mike ~ -Original Message-From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of blue honeySent: 19 April 2000 13:49To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [CTRL] Easter Canceled This Year!Easter Canceled This Year!Author UnknownJerusalem, April 15, 1995- -Archeologists who have been excavating in the hills above Jerusalem announced today the discovery of a 2000-year-old mummy bearing puncture wounds through the hands and feet and a deep laceration in the lower left chest. Who are these archaeologists? Scientists noted that there was a large accumulation of blood in the lower body, consistent with the body having been upright at the time of death. Who are these scientists?Carbon dating of the body and its burial shroud indicated death had occurred 1990 +-95 years ago. Who did the carbon dating?The archeologists stated that in spite of its age, the body was well preserved in the dry air of the hidden, sealed cave. A senior archeologist, WHO? asked if this was the body of Jesus Christ, refused to comment, but agreed that "the evidence is not inconsistent with that hypothesis." A younger archeologist, WHO??? who requested anonymity, said "This is the corpse of Christ. Period. They're just going to have to cancel Easter this year." How did he know this? A Vatican spokesman WHO??? said that such a discovery was impossible, because they had the true burial cloth of Christ, the Shroud of Turin. Asked to explain its carbon date of approximately 1300 AD, the spokesman repeated the Vatican position that there was a burst of radiation at the time of the resurrection. In a separate news conference, another spokesman WHO??? said that a careful reading of the Bible and Catholic doctrine would show that they were "not inconsistent" with such a discovery. Ronald Reagan, former President of the United States, announced outrage that such a discovery should be made. In Lynchburg, Virginia, Jerry Falwell, leader of Moral Majority, denounced it as "an attempt by atheistic scientists to undermine the Constitution." Armed troops were patrolling the Christian sections of Jerusalem after the Chief Rabbi commented that he "had always known the resurrection was a myth." The Israeli government ordered him to make no further statements on the discovery. Reference please?Silas
[CTRL] The MYTH of EVOLUTION - SCIENTISTS SPEAK!
The MYTH of EVOLUTION - SCIENTISTS SPEAK! The size of this Conspiracy is enormous! Permeating all western thought from religion, philosophy, ethics, science, astronomy, sociology, and so forth! Top-flight scientists have something to tell you about evolution. Such statements will never be found in the popular magazines, alongside gorgeous paintings of ape-man and Big Bangs and solemn pronouncements about millions of years for this rock and that fish. Instead they are generally reserved only for professional books and journals. Most scientists are working in very narrow fields; they do not see the overall picture, and assume, even though their field does not prove evolution, that perhaps other areas of science probably vindicate it. They are well-meaning men. The biologists and geneticists know their facts, and research does not prove evolution, but assume that geology does. The geologists know their field does not prove evolution, but hope that the biologists and geneticists have proven it. Those who do know the facts, fear to disclose them to the general public, lest they be fired. But they do write articles in their own professional journals and books, condemning evolutionary theory. Included below are a number of admissions by leading evolutionists of earlier decades, such as *Charles Darwin, *Austin Clark, or *Fred Hoyle. The truth is that evolutionists cannot make scientific facts fit the theory. An asterisk ( * ) by a name indicates that person is not known to be a creationist. The Darwinian theory of descent has not a single fact to confirm it in the realm of nature. It is not the result of scientific research, but purely the product of imagination.*Dr. Fleischman [Erlangen zoologist]. It is almost invariably assumed that animals with bodies composed of a single cell represent the primitive animals from which all others derived. They are commonly supposed to have preceded all other animal types in their appearance. There is not the slightest basis for this assumption.*Austin Clark, The New Evolution (1930), pp. 235-236. The hypothesis that life has developed from inorganic matter is, at present, still an article of faith.*J.W.N. Sullivan, The Limitations of Science (1933), p. 95. Where are we when presented with the mystery of life? We find ourselves facing a granite wall which we have not even chipped . . We know virtually nothing of growth, nothing of life.*W. Kaempffert, The Greatest Mystery of All: The Secret of Life, New York Times. The theory of evolution is totally inadequate to explain the origin and manifestation of the inorganic world. Sir John Ambrose Fleming, F.R.S., quoted in H. Enoch, Evolution or Creation (1966), p. 91 [discoverer of the thermionic valve]. I think, however, that we must go further than this and admit that the only acceptable explanation is creation. I know that this is anathema to physicists, as indeed it is to me, but we must not reject a theory that we do not like if the experimental evidence supports it.*H. Lipson, A Physicist Looks at Evolution, Physics Bulletin, 31 (1980), p. 138. I am not satisfied that Darwin proved his point or that his influence in scientific and public thinking has been beneficial . . the success of Darwinism was accomplished by a decline in scientific integrity.*W.R. Thompson, Introduction to *Charles Darwins, Origin of the Species [Canadian scientist]. One of the determining forces of scientism was a fantastic accidental imagination which could explain every irregularity in the solar system without explanation, leap the gaps in the atomic series without evidence [a gap required by the Big Bang theory], postulate the discovery of fossils which have never been discovered, and prophesy the success of breeding experiments which have never succeeded. Of this kind of science it might truly be said that it was knowledge falsely so called. *David C.C. Watson, The Great Brain Robbery (1976). The hold of the evolutionary paradigm [theoretical system] is so powerful that an idea which is more like a principle of medieval astrology than a serious twentieth century scientific theory has become a reality for evolutionary biologists.*Michael Denton, Evolution: A Theory in Crisis (1985), p. 306 [Australian molecular biologist]. The particular truth is simply that we have no reliable evidence as to the evolutionary sequence . . One can find qualified professional arguments for any group being the descendant of almost any other.J. Bonner, Book Review, American Scientist, 49:1961, p. 240. It was because Darwinian theory broke mans link with God and set him adrift in a cosmos without purpose or end that its impact was so fundamental. No other intellectual revolution in modern times . . so profoundly affected the way men viewed themselves and their place in the universe.*Michael Denton, Evolution: A Theory in Crisis
Re: [CTRL] Dominatrix Pig Pen? Oi Veh!
OINK!!! Twice if you lhuuuv moi! RITPPL!!! (rolling in the pig pen laughing!) - Original Message - From: "Franklin Wayne Poley" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 2:24 PM Subject: [CTRL] Dominatrix Pig Pen? Oi Veh! On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, David Sutherland wrote: what is exactly is acceptable etiquette in the dominatrix pig pen? Cool! FWP A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] (TARA) HULDA CLARK - Cheap Cancer
(TARA) HULDA CLARK - Cheap Cancer cure-all! From what i remember of this old bird - she had this gadget she was flogging to death (excuzi moi the aussie lingo) - this device was a miraculous electronic cancer cure-all constructed from a few dollars worth of electronic bits from your local (Radio Shack?) electronics store, some wiring, and a couple of alligator clips, with short metallic pipes attached (and variations thereof). Voila!!! Now, i'm all for alternative "health" and all that jive - but i'm not so certain i'm a keen supporter for alternative death - as yet! - Original Message - From: "Tara" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 1:46 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] FW: DR. HULDA CLARK CHARGES DISMISSED! HALLELUJAH!!! I hope she was a whole lot better than the woman practicing medicine without a license in Canada, where that isn't illegal by the way, who killed my 34 year old sister. Tara -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 3:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] FW: DR. HULDA CLARK CHARGES DISMISSED! HALLELUJAH!!! Dave Hartley http://www.asheville-computer.com/dave-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 12:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: DR. HULDA CLARK CHARGES DISMISSED! HALLELUJAH!!! Subj: hallellujah...a victory for Clark... Date: 4/17/00 7:27:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: A HREF="mailto:PLANETNEWS"PLANETNEWS/A BCC: A HREF="mailto:Sh0shanna"Sh0shanna/A I am a human becoming...help me to become... A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [LIFE-GAZETTE] SHIT!!! Forum Administrator? (fwd)
I agree with a lot of what you say - my point was not the initial word but the double standard applied. Since the dawn of time, Religionists have always subscribed to the Serpents dictum "ye shall be as gods". Genesis 3:5 To be a "god", means there can be no other rival gods or truths. Christianity, Judaism,Talmudists, New Agers, Gnostics, Estoterics, and et al, despise the LAW of God as in like manner Jesus said of their true their ancestral mentors, their fathers - the Pharisee's: "And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition." Mark 7:9 Here we see that the professed religionists are simultaneously ANTINOMIANS and LEGALISTS!!! That is, on the one hand they truly despise the LAWS of God, and on the other - strive for heaven by their own do-gooder merits and "traditions" (laws). Church men and women will rant and rave against the 613 laws of the Bible, but have little conflict with 613,000,000 laws, statutes, codes, and so forth - created by them, and their incarnate "god" they give homage to - the STATE! As ever, like the Pharisees - in this they say, "... we have no king but Caesar." John 19:15 As it was, so it is, so shall it be - nothing new under the sun! - Original Message - From: "Franklin Wayne Poley" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 2:09 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] [LIFE-GAZETTE] SHIT!!! Forum Administrator? (fwd) -- Forwarded message -- Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 20:20:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Franklin Wayne Poley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIFE-GAZETTE] SHIT!!! Forum Administrator? On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, David Sutherland wrote: Just curious Mr Admin: I posted and used the term "shithead" and was castigated by the administators for a "cussing" Not by me. This is a Free Speech Zone. And the frustration of dealing with a bunch of religiocratic "shits" or "shitheads" (you choose) is enough to drive anybody to use such words. But hopefully we will get some reasonable discourse going with the religionists before Life-Gazette turns into the cyber version of Jerry Springer. Look, the "Greatest Story Ever Told" is very natural and when it is supernatural it is not the "wierd shit" you get from the religiocrats. They twist and pervert the Bible. I was almost moved to tears last year when I watched an interview with a distinguished Canadian lawyer who worked on the "Christian Brothers" (Mount Cashell) case. This man was smart, well-educated, well-spoken and a seasoned middle-aged professional. A real gentleman. After hearing what they had done to those children he went into a deep depression and couldn't work again for five years. I read in the Humanist Newsletter a few years back that a patient/client is twice as likely to be sexually molested by a so-called "Christian" councillor than a nonreligious councillor. Now, I'm not a Humanist but let's just recognize the truth where we find it. I think they probably had the stats on their side. Often when I spend some time with the "wierd shitters" of churchianity I feel like I need to take a bath. Church is not the place to go for spiritual uplifting unless you can avoid the human element. So I think it is better to vent this stuff than to go into a depression as long as we all stay this side of legality. I won't even tell you what I'd like to do with that food truck with the big white cross on the side which drives up in front of the courthouse in the "poorest ghetto in Canada" as it is called. But I won't do it whatever it is. Lorna Dueck featured them on "Listenup" recently along with the other religion racketeers who exploit the poor in the ghetto for their vanity and profit. She called them "Angels" of something or other. What? Hell's Angels? The Hell's Angels Bikers I have met over the years impressed me as more decent people than "Lorna's Angels". What did Jesus say? "Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them" That is 100% clear. And it makes intuitive sense to those whose minds and hearts still work. The "missions" in the ghetto from Slavation Army to Roman Catholic line up the poor on the street to be served a meal. What restaurants which cater to a poorer clientelle do this? None. When the tv crew goes by these people shuffle their feet and look down. My Jesus Christ doesn't compel unfortunate people to lick His boots and suffer humiliation for the crumbs from the table of pseudo-charity. So we are talking about very different Saviours here. Angels indeed. They can't even see reality. The religion racketeers who commute into the ghetto drive through traffic congestion and dangerous streets administered by the
Re: [CTRL] FW: DR. HULDA CLARK CHARGES DISMISSED! HALLELUJAH!!!
In a message dated 4/18/00 10:47:12 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I hope she was a whole lot better than the woman practicing medicine without a license in Canada, where that isn't illegal by the way, who killed my 34 year old sister. Clark is a quack of the highest order...to wit- The Bizarre Claims of Hulda Clark Stephen Barrett, M.D. Hulda Regehr Clark, 70, claims to cure cancer, AIDS, and many other serious diseases. She describes herself as an "independent research scientist" with bachelor and master's degrees from the University of Saskatchewan and a Ph.D. degree in physiology from the University of Minnesota (1958). She also lists a naturopathic (N.D.) degree, but the source is not identified [1]. Her treatment is available at Century Nutrition, a clinic in Tijuana, Mexico, where the basic fee for two weeks of "treatment" is $4,500 (plus 10% tax). This figure does not include the cost of a motel room (approximately $210/week); meals ($250/week); blood tests ($70 each); standard diagnostic imaging tests ($40 to $400); dental x-rays (at least $206); "individually tailored" supplements ($400 to $1,500 for a month supply); equipment (about $350); tooth extractions ($80 each); and partial or full dentures ($450). Bizarre Claims Clark claims that all cancers and many other diseases are caused by "parasites, toxins, and pollutants" and can be cured by killing the parasites and ridding the body of environmental chemicals. Her book The Cure for All Cancers states: All cancers are alike. They are all caused by a parasite. A single parasite! It is the human intestinal fluke. And if you kill this parasite, the cancer stops immediately. The tissue becomes normal again. In order to get cancer, you must have this parasite. . . . This parasite typically lives in the intestine where it might do little harm, causing only colitis, Crohn's disease or irritable bowel syndrome, or perhaps nothing at all. But if it invades a different organ, like the uterus, kidneys or liver, it does a great deal of harm. If it establishes itself in the liver, it causes cancer! It only establishes itself in the liver of some people. These people have propyl alcohol in their body. All cancer patients (100%) have both propyl alcohol and the intestinal fluke in their livers. The solvent propyl alcohol is responsible for letting the fluke establish itself in the liver. In order to get cancer, you must have both the parasite and propyl alcohol in your body [1:1-2]. Clark further alleges: The adult fluke "stays stuck to our intestine, (or liver, causing cancer, or uterus, causing endometriosis, or thymus, causing AIDS, or kidney, causing Hodgkin's disease)." [1:4] Or the pancreas, causing diabetes; the brain, causing Alzheimer's disease; the prostate (causing prostatitis; or the skin if you have Kaposi's sarcoma [1:35]. As soon as there are adults in the liver. . . . a growth factor, called ortho-phospho-tyrosine appears. Growth factors make cells divide. Now YOUR cells will begin to divide too! Now you have cancer. . . . Having propyl alcohol in your body allows the fluke to develop outside of the intestine [1:8]. When the fluke and all its stages have been killed, the ortho-phospho-tyrosine is gone! Your cancer is gone [1:9]. Clearly, you must do 3 things: (1) Kill the parasite and all its stages; (2) stop letting propyl alcohol into your body; and (3) flush out the metals and common toxins from your body so you can get well [1:10]. It is not unusual for someone to have a dozen (or more) of the parasites I have samples of. You can assume that you, too, have a dozen different parasites [1:10]. Three herbs, used together, can rid you of over 100 types of parasites: black walnut hulls, wormwood, and common cloves [1:11-12]. But the amino acids ornithine and arginine improve this recipe [1:15]. Use of these five products will kill the cancer-causing fluke in the first five days and the remaining parasites in another two weeks [1:19]. It takes 5 days to be cured of cancer regardless of the type you have. Surgery, radiation, or chemotherapy can be canceled because, after Clark's recipe cures the cancer, it cannot come back [1:introductory passage]. All metal (fillings, crowns, bridges, etc.) should be removed from the mouth, and all teeth with root canals should be extracted, because their presence damages the immune system [1:46-48]. To prevent recurrence, stay on a maintenance program of killing parasites and give yourself a high-dose program at least twice a year. Also treat all family members and household pets [1:23-26]. Clark is also using and promoting two devices. Her Syncrometer is claimed to identify diseased organs and toxic substances by noting whether the device makes various sounds when "test substances" are placed on a plate [1:373-427]. The device is simply a galvanometer that measures skin resistance to a low-voltage current that passes from the device through a probe touched to the patient's
Re: [CTRL] FW: Allopathy exposed
In a message dated 4/18/00 9:10:47 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Conventional medicine "exposed" by an M.D. who is also a Homeopath. That's like a cop who is also a felon...credibility is key, this moron has none. Bill. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] SNET: Guns (fwd)
In a message dated 00-04-19 15:56:19 EDT, you write: * Guns are not the problem. On the contrary, lax criminal penalties and laws that disarm the law-abiding are responsible for giving criminals a safer working environment. We can thank the present administration for not vigorously enforcing existing laws. We can also thank the Courts-Lawyer-System for making deals with criminals and having them plead guilty to a much lesser crime than they committed. Criminals have no respect for laws or anything else and the biggest criminals are not even prosecuted at all - government/corporations. * Los Angeles riots -- USA Today reported that many of the people rushing to gun stores during the 1992 riots were "lifelong gun-control advocates, running to buy an item they thought they'd never need." Ironically, they were outraged to discover they had to wait 15 days to buy a gun for self-defense. I wonder if this changed their minds? How many of these people were killed, wounded, or terrorized because they were not armed? * Press reports show that the few criminals who get their guns from retail outlets can easily get fake IDs or use surrogate buyers, known as "straw purchasers," to buy their guns. On a bright note - guns shows occasionally catch criminals. In a Colorado Springs gun show a few weeks ago a murderer who had escaped from Arizona was buying a handgun from a dealer and filled out the application using his own name. He waited over an hour while the ATF came from Denver and arrested him. Surely a nomination for world's dumbest criminal. * Federal Bureau of Investigation registers gun owners (1998). Despite prohibitions in federal law, the FBI announced that it would begin keeping gun buyer's names for six months. FBI had originally wanted to keep the names for 18 months, but reduced the time period after groups like Gun Owners of America strongly challenged the legality of their actions. GOA submitted a formal protest to the FBI, calling their attempt at registration both "unlawful" and "unconstitutional." Gun registration is a dangerous thing. Gun confiscation is the goal. Anyone who is an anti-gunner should be called pro-criminal. * California. State officials have used the state background check -- required during the waiting period -- to compile an illegal registry of handgun owners. These lists have been compiled without any statutory authority to do so. Get the picture - government is the true enemy. Be smart buy an unregistered gun, it is legal in most States. If they don't know you have a gun they will be less likely to take it away. 1. The Brady Law has failed to result in the incarceration of dangerous criminals. After the first year and a half, there were only seven successful prosecutions for making false statements on Brady handgun purchase forms -- and only three of them were actually incarcerated.50 With only three criminals sent to jail, one can hardly argue that the law is working to keep violent criminals from getting handguns on the street. I wonder how much money was wasted passing this law. If the current administration would enforce this law and jail people who try to illegally purchase guns, then the streets would be safer because more habitual criminals would be behind bars where they belong. Obviously Clinton and his goons want to keep criminals on the streets hoping people will be stupid enough to demand more protection "from guns" rather than "from criminals" how can people be that stupid? Yet people still support Clinton, some people are not too bright. asked the Attorney General whether his SKS Sporter rifle would be legal in the state. The citizen was assured the rifle was legal, and based on that information, he subsequently moved into the state. But in 1998, California officials reversed course and confiscated the firearm. Don't move to Calif. Don't believe what the government tells you, they have an agenda that does not include you. Regards, Bob Stokes A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL
Re: [CTRL] The MYTH of EVOLUTION - SCIENTISTS SPEAK!
Could the person who posted this please re-post in PLAIN TEXT? It's impossible to read in HTML, the type is way too small and fuzzy. Thanks in advance. Tenorlove __ Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [Anti-Feminism] Mother Baby
What's it gonna take for the public to wise up to not only worldwide thugs deprivation of our Freedoms, but their insidious demands that we pay more, and more, and more taxes so they can experiment with their morally bankrupt social programs; the female has to work if the Family wishes to maintain its standard of living which is slowly, and most assuredly, be eroded with the result being worldwide economic and social chaos. I didn't cast my vote for these socialist bastards and bitches! Did you? Bard BUCHANAN-Reform http://gopatgo2000.com/default.htm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 4/19/00 11:46:25 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: To: CinLife [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mothers rather be with their kids Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] STUDY FINDS MOTHERS PREFER TO BE HOME WITH KIDS LONDON, Apr 5 (LSN.ca) - A survey by Mother Baby Magazine and Bupa questioned 2000 mothers and pregnant women (average age 30) and found that 81 per cent would stay at home and look after their children if they could afford it. 84 per cent, considered "a mother and a father" ideal for bringing up a child, 90 per cent said motherhood had made them happier and 99 per cent felt a sense of pride and achievement. Source: LifeSite Daily News ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Your high school sweetheart-where is he now? With 4.4 million alumni already registered at Classmates.com, there's a good chance you'll find her here. Visit your online high school class reunion at: http://click.egroups.com/1/3139/0/_/608835/_/956191153/ -- Bard There's not a dime bit of difference between a DemoRat and a RepubRat, they're simply two wings of the same bird of prey. BUCHANAN-Reform http://gopatgo2000.com/default.htm A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] blood of the lamb saves Elian
http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=2000/4/19/151759 -- Bard There's not a dime bit of difference between a DemoRat and a RepubRat, they're simply two wings of the same bird of prey which loves to feast on your gross pay. BUCHANAN-Reform http://gopatgo2000.com/default.htm Title: NewsMax.com: Inside Cover Story LeBoutillierYes, the State Dept. Says Cuba Mistreats Blacks, Gays, Journalists Advertise Your Banner Here With Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com StaffFor the story behind the story... Wednesday April 19, 2000 4:01 PM EST Passover Saves Elian -- A Story of Biblical Proportions NewsMax.com pundit and radio host Barry Farber just called to congratulate us on the news that the court ruled in Elian's favor. Barry a believing Jew reminded us that Elian was saved by Passover. Tonight, of course, begins the Jewish holiday of Passover, when the first sons of all Jewish families were saved because they had put the blood of the lamb on their doorposts. The first sons of Egypt, who did not listen to Moses, died that night. So, Elian, also a first son, has been saved in this case from the Old Lady. No doubt Reno was planning a Waco style assault to bring the boy to Pharoah Castro and to the death of his freedom. KSFO's Mike Savage has noted the religious symbolism of the story as well, recently telling his audience this is one of Biblical proportions. Elian was saved, like Moses, from the sea. For Jonah it was a whale, but Elian was saved from the sharks because dolphins and swordfish surrounded his rubber life saver,according to the boy's account and the fishermen who saved him. Savage notes he was also rescued on Thanksgiving Day. And of course, Elian in Hebrew means Carrier of God. Inside Cover Stories Passover Saves Elian -- A Story of Biblical Proportions ABC News Shrink Warned Elian's Return Would Be 'Second Death' Shrink Who Said Elian Should Go Has Ties to Hillary Clinton, Elian and the Rule of Law Easter "Festivities" in San Francisco Mayor Requests Probe Into Beating of Pro-Elian Protesters New York Times Makes Gephardt Speaker of the House Justice Officials Meet with Miami Police Outside Elian's Home More Inside Cover Stories Home · Search · Free E-mail News · ZipMax.com-Free Webmail · Columnists · News Links · Late Night Jokes Archives · Shopping Mall · Cartoons · Magazines · Forum · Classifieds · Contact Us All Rights Reserved © NewsMax.com
[CTRL] PLEASE POST IN TEXT FORMAT ONLY! (WAS: Re: [CTRL] The MYTH of EVOLUTION - SCIENTISTS SPEAK!)
Let me extend this request to ALL members of CTRL. PLEASE, people, post ONLY in *text format*. Sure, I use Outlook Express and can read HTML messages fine...much better, obviously, than Tenorlove and the others who use Web-based mail such as Yahoo! and Hotmail. But as an IT professional, I also know that HTML messages can carry viruses, especially if you use Outlook 9x or 2000 and have enabled Word as your e-mail editor. There are also Javascript and VBScript "viruses" that can travel directly in HTML, as well as nasty Java applets that might as well be viruses. It's not simply a matter of politeness, although that *is* a factor in my request. It's really a matter of information hygiene--keeping your e-mail free of anything that can, even potentially, harm someone else's system. Please try to follow these two basic rules: 1. Always use text format. Not everyone has a mail program that can handle HTML or fancy formatting. 2. Don't use attachments or URLs when you want to share something with the list. Copy and paste the text into a message, and post *that*. (AOL users, could you please try to keep that in mind? I know AOL doesn't make it easy, but it really would help if you could *paste* text into your messages instead of just forwarding it as an attachment.) Thanks for helping Bob - Original Message - From: "Tenorlove" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 9:00 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] The MYTH of EVOLUTION - SCIENTISTS SPEAK! Could the person who posted this please re-post in PLAIN TEXT? It's impossible to read in HTML, the type is way too small and fuzzy. Thanks in advance. Tenorlove A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Mind Control Rally: Sacramento, CA-Sunday July 23, 2000
NEXT SACRAMENTO RALLY: Date alteration by officialdom: Saturday 22/7/2000 to *SUNDAY, 23rd July, 2000.* Australia: There are victims of neuro-electromagentic/psychotronic technology all around the world, including Australia. The Internet has made it possible for victims who are connected to it to network for mutual encouragement and to share information. This is not a true indication of the numbers of victims, alive or dead! There would be many more. In the Western or Third World USA is the major perpetrator, with or without local national compliance, accessory or accomplice. The Soviet Union/Russia is also in this murderous practise, within and without its borders. Last year the European Parliament passed resolutions calling for a world convention to ban these weapons for human manipulation. 'Resolution on the Environment, Security and Foreign Policy. A4-0005/99. January 28th, 1999. EPl159' See full text in book: Page 10, EARTH RISING, THE REVOLUTION; TOWARD A THOUSAND YEARS OF PEACE by Dr. Nick Begich, James Roderick, Earth Pulse Press Inc. http://www.earthpulse.com or website: http://www.glasscity.net/users/1927/europar2.htm *Victims have the covert equivalent of mandatory sentences, torture under house arrest, with no right of appeal. *The use of these technologies for socio-political or other purposes makes nonsense of a justice system. *Interviews or correspondence with politicians, within or without Government have been of no assistance or avail whatsoever. *Victims do not have access to space-age devices of detection or measure which only a national defence force or a university is likely to have, if at all. *In effect, we are disenfranchised! *We need help! Betty Daly-King 8 Bursaria Crescent Ferndale W.A. 6148 Tel. No. (08) 9458 3943 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] . "Get up, stand up, don't give up the fight." - Bob Marley Announcing a new rally! On the April 8 demonstartion we had 75 people and ABC News took footage. Thanks to Rod Orr, Bill MacIntosh, Mary Ann Statton, John and Judy Reiman and Steve Naghdi for speaking and all others who attended. We are going to build on this success and make human experimentation an issue. The new rally will be on Saturday, July 22, 2000 on the West Steps of California State Capitol. We will improve our attendance from the media and the public. All help is welcome. If you want to speak contact Tim by email or (916) 684-3821. Stop Human Experimentation! The Past: *The CIA drugged and tortured men, women, and children over long periods of time under the name MK-ULTRA and Behavior Modification in the 1950's, 60's and 70's. There were Congressional hearings about these experiments from 1975-77. One lawsuit was successful. In Orlikow vs. United States they were found to have drugged and tortured 9 Canadian victims. *The U.S. military conducted a series of radiation experiments on its own soldiers. There were a number of casualties. The U.S. Government denied the experiments for about 25 years until they were "declassified". The families of the victims are still trying to gain reparations. However, the government is claiming immunity from their lawsuits. *The U.S. military conducted bacteria and chemical weapons xperiments on its own citizens. They dropped bacteria over the San Fransisco area and subjected children at Clinton Elementary School in Minnesota to dangerous chemicals. There were a number of casualties. About 25 years later, the government admitted the experiments, but claims immunity from the lawsuits of the victims. *The CIA conducted LSD experiments on U.S. citizens. There were a number of casualties. About 25 years later, the U.S. Government admitted or "declassified" the experiments. However, the government still claims immunity from the lawsuits of the victims. The present: At least 300 survivors in the United States claim to be present or past victims of Electromagnetic Weapons experiments. These weapons are also called Neuro-EM weapons, Radio Frequency weapons or Mind Control devices. The victims are subject to constant torture, and are often dehabilitated. The victims are isolated with survaillance from satellites and through-the-wall radar. Also, the victims are financially crippled and subject to terrorist break ins and harassment. Former military personnel, ex-government employees, and U.S. civilians are still being tortured to this day. *Please help stop human experimentation and gain reparations for past victims and the families of the deceased. These atrocities are the result of an unchecked bureaucracy: the military and the federal agencies. They need to be held accountable to the laws of this democracy. Rally! Help end 50 years of human experimentation by the U.S. government. Corruption in the LAPD is bad, in the federal government it's much worse. The CIA tortured children. They still do. Why is there another department called the NSA watching
[CTRL] Domestic Surveillance and Mind Control Technology?
http://www.west.net/~eotl/political/weapons/nsa.html The End of The Line Domestic Surveillance and Mind Control Technology? (The following are the first six pages of evidence in a lawsuit filed by a citizen against the National Security Agency (NSA) in 1992 alleging harassment and seeking relief for same. This lawsuit was filed in the U.S. Courthouse in Washington, D.C. but later withdrawn. The bringer of this original suite reported he has brought a subsequent civil suit against some or all of the original Defendants. The text has been reformatted for easier reading but remains completely unabridged.) Evidence for the Lawsuit filed at the U.S. courthouse in Washington, D.C. (Civil Action xx-) Xxx Xxxx vs NSA, Ft. George G. Meade, Maryland. My knowledge of the National Security Agency's structure, national security activities, proprietary technologies and covert operations to monitor individual citizens. The NSA's mission and the NSA's domestic intelligence operation Communications Intelligence (COMINT) Blanket coverage of all electronic communications in the U.S. and the world to ensure national security. The NSA at Ft. Meade, Maryland has had the most advanced computers in the world since the early 1960's. NSA technology is developed and implemented in part from private corporations, academia, and the general public. Signals Intelligence (SIGINT) The Signals Intelligence mission of the NSA has evolved into a program of decoding EMF waves in the environment for wirelessly tapping into computers and tracking persons with the electrical currents in their bodies. Signals intelligence is based on the fact that everything in the environment with an electric current in it has a magnetic field around it which gives off EMF waves. The NSA/DOD has developed proprietary advanced digital equipment which can remotely analyze all object whether (tran-maze?) or organic that have electrical activity. Domestic Intelligence (DOMINT) The NSA has records on all U.S. citizens. The NSA gathers information on U.S. citizens who might be of interest to any of the over 50,000 NSA agents (HUMINT). These agents are authorized by executive order to spy on anyone. The NSA has a permanent National Security Anti-Terrorist surveillance network in place. This surveillance network is completely disguised and hidden from the public. Tracking individuals in the U.S. is easy and can effectively implemented with the NSA's electronic surveillance network. This network (DOMINT) covers the entire U.S. and involves thousands of NSA personnel, and tracks millions of persons simultaneously. Cost-effective implementation of operations is achieved by NSA computer technology designed to minimize operations costs. NSA personnel serve in quasi-public positions in their communities and run cover business and legitimate businesses that can inform the intelligence community of persons they would want to track. NSA personnel in the community usually have cover identities such as social workers, lawyers, and business owners. Individual citizens occasionally targeted for surveillance by independently operating NSA personnel NSA personnel can control the lives of hundreds of thousands of individuals in the U.S. by using the NSA's domestic intelligence network and cover businesses. The operations independently run by them can sometimes go beyond the bounds of law. Long-term control and sabotage of tens of thousands of unwilling citizens by NSA operatives is likely to happen. NSA DOMINT has the ability to covertly assassinate U.S. citizens or run covert psychological control operations to cause subjects to be diagnosed with ill mental health. NSA's domestic electronic surveillance network As of the early 1960's the most advanced computers in the world were at the NSA, Ft. Meade. Research breakthroughs with these computers were kept for the NSA. At the present time the NSA has advanced technology computers that are 15 years ahead of present computer technology. The NSA obtains blanket coverage of information in the U.S. by using advanced computers that use artificial intelligence to screen all communications, regardless of medium, for key words that should be brought to the attention of NSA agents/cryptologists. These computers monitor all communications at the transmitting and receiving ends. This blanket coverage of the U.S. is a result of the NSA's Signals Intelligence (SIGINT) mission. The NSA's electronic surveillance network is based on a cellular arrangement of devices that can monitor the entire EMF spectrum. This equipment was developed, implemented and kept secret in the same manner as other electronic warfare programs. Signals Intelligence Remote Computer Tampering The NSA keeps track of all PCs and other computers sold in the U.S. This is an integral part of the
[CTRL] EcoNews:Russian Torture Practices in Chechnya
NEAR GROZNY, Russia, April 14 (AFP) - Russia is torturing detainees at secret "filtration" camps across Chechnya despite an international outcry over abuses at the notorious Chernokozovo prison, witnesses say. Ex-inmates interviewed by AFP in Chechnya and neighbouring Ingushetia confirmed the existence of detention centres such as PAP-5 in Grozny and one housed in a former school in the southwestern town of Urus-Martan. Ruslan, 21, spent nearly two months until March 30 in a dark underground cell in PAP-5 in the depths of a former bus maintenance depot, where he said guards meted out brutal beatings, torture and even committed murder. The Russian military denied the site existed when UN High Commissioner for Human Rights Mary Robinson pressed to see it and neighbouring PAP-1 on a visit to the war-ravaged Chechen capital a fortnight ago. "The guards would come in and say 'it's time for massage'," said Ruslan, interviewed in his home village near the northwestern outskirts of Grozny where Russian troops arrested him on February 5th. Placed on a stool, his hands tied behind his back, two or three masked soldiers would beat Ruslan with rubber truncheons and rifle butts for half an hour at a time, swinging blows at his legs, arms and back. "I lost consciousness many times," the young man mumbled hesitantly with a pained look on his face, before burying his head in his hands. On international women's day on March 8th, the guards got drunk and decidedto experiment on the prisoners, Ruslan said. Pulling up his trousers to show a deep scar in his left leg stretching up from the ankle nearly to the thigh, he explained: "They stuck a knife in me and then slowly, very slowly cut upwards into my leg. "You are a boyevik (a Chechen guerrilla fighter), we know you are," the soldier wielding the knife taunted Ruslan. But he was far luckier than others among the nine men squeezed into his tiny cell. Four were killed, including a 23-year-old from his village, Ruslan said: "I heard the shots when they finished them off after beating them nearly to death" in the nearby interrogation room. Deaths under detention also occurred in the former school in Urus-Martan, according to 30-year-old Alikhan Shakiyev, who was kept there for four days from February 29. One fellow-inmate, Aslanbek, 20, was dying when the guards dumped him back in their cell, but was refused permission to see a doctor. His wrists, hands, and fingers broken, he lay rasping as he tried to breathe, blood oozing out of his mouth. One hour later the soldiers took him out of the cell, and relatives then found his body abandoned on the street. The beatings and torture by elite interior ministry OMON troops took place in a windowless room, bare except for a table and chair, with a light bulb dangling from the ceiling. Seven metres (21 feet) away, Shakiyev and the others in his cell could hear cries of pain all day long. Many had nails torn out and on the back of one 18-year-old man, Aslan, the guards burnt a drawing into his skin with lighted cigarettes, according to Shakiyev. "It wasn't a filtration camp. It was a concentration camp," he said, interviewed in the Ingush border town of Sleptovskaya where he has taken refuge. Fear permeates the survivors, who said they had been threatened with severe reprisals if they spoke about their experiences. Just before a delegation from the Council of Europe led by Lord Frank Judd visited Chernokozovo in northwest Chechnya on March 12, Ruslan and others in PAP-5 were threatened by guards nervous the Western observers might turn up. "They warned us, 'If you speak to the foreigners don't tell them you were beaten. If you do, we'll kill you, they'll go away in any case and then we'll deal with you'," he said. Apart from the fear of talking, information is also scant because very few recent inmates of detention centres have managed to flee to Ingushetia since the Russian military do not return their passports. But Russian human rights organisation Memorial estimates there are already nearly 15 'filtration' camps holding several thousand people in Chechnya, not counting police cells and underground pits at many military checkpoints. *---* CivilSoc is an electronic information service provided free of charge to 1,600 subscribers worldwide by CCSI--Center for Civil Society International--in association with Friends Partners. To submit items for posting to CivilSoc, send them to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from CivilSoc: 1. Address an e-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2. Leave Subject line blank. In the Message area, type: unsub civilsoc 3. Send message. For more information about civic initiatives in Eurasia, visit our Web site: http://www.friends-partners.org/ccsi/ Past CivilSoc postings can be found at: http://www.friends-partners.org/ccsi/info/civilsoc.htm ** --
[CTRL] Russia: Goldman Environmental Prize to Russian NGOs
GOLDMAN PRIZE GOES TO 2 SEU MEMBERS The Goldman Environmental Prize is the world's largest prize program honoring grassroots environmentalists. Founded in 1990 by Richard and Rhoda Goldman, the Prize awards $125,000 annually to six environmental heroes from each of the inhabited continental regions. Nominated by a network of internationally known environmental organizations and a confidential panel of environmental experts, recipients are chosen for their sustained and important environmental achievements. This year Goldman prize was awarded to the 6 grassroots activists - and 2 of them are SEU members. Alltogether, SEU boasts 5 Goldman Prize winners - Sviatoslav Zabelin (1993), SEU founder, Alexander Nikitin (1997) - environmentalist from Bellona Foundation, reveling the truth about radioactive contamination of the North-West of Russia, Paul Cox (1997) - Chairman of the Seacology, the world's premiere nonprofit, nongovernmental organization whose sole and unique purpose is to preserve the environments and cultures of islands throughout the globe. Introducing 2000 year winners: taken from Goldman foundation press-release A S I A Oral Ataniyazova, Uzbekistan Over the past several decades, the Aral Sea - one of the world's largest freshwater inland seas has shrunk to almost half its size primarily due to water diversion for cotton production. The result has been a devastating ecological nightmare that has negatively affected the health and livelihood of some three million inhabitants in the region. An obstetrician, Oral Ataniyazova has addressed the high rate of birth related problems in the ethnically distinct Republic of Karakalpakastan. She has been raising awareness of the environmental and health impacts of the Aral Sea crisis and improving the lives of local people, especially the women and children. Early in the Soviet era, the entire region along the Amu-Darya River (which includes Kyrgyzstan, Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan) was designated for cotton production and the river was dammed to divert water for irrigation. The heavy use of pesticides and defoliants needed for this monoculture crop, as well as heavy metals from mining operations, and discharge from chemical and biological weapons factories have severely polluted the region. Today, the groundwater in the region surrounding the sea is no longer suitable for drinking and each year tons of salt from the dry seabed blow onto nearby fields, resulting in the loss of thousands of acres of farmland. Women and children are among those most affected by the Aral Sea crisis. In 1992 Oral Ataniyazova - who also holds a doctorate in medical science - established Perzent, the Karakalpak Center for Reproductive Health and Environment, in order to help the women and children of Karakalpakstan. Due to the severity of the pollution in the area, it is believed that its entire population has been exposed to dangerous chemicals over extended periods of time. Public health in the region has deteriorated with the worsening ecological situation. Over the past 15 years, there has been an increase in the rates of anemia, kidney and liver diseases, allergies, tuberculosis, birth defects and reproductive pathologies. In addition to scientific research, family planning and medical assistance, Perzent offers a wide range of educational and community programs that focus on raising public awareness about the region's environmental and health problems. Most of Ataniyazova's activities concentrate on women and how they can improve their lives, including family health and the quality of food and water. Perzent trains local groups in areas such as health and hygiene, sustainable agriculture, as well as women's and children's rights. With branches in several rural districts, Perzent has created a 50-acre organic farm, a women's clinic and a publishing house. To fully involve the local people, Perzent actively solicits ideas from communities for practical solutions to the region's problems. More than 10,000 people have been involved in the organization's activities. Ataniyazova has worked on these issues at the national, regional and international levels. As an expert in reproductive health, she has been a key spokesperson addressing various international agencies, including the United Nations. Despite many difficulties during the past two decades, Ataniyazova has helped improve the health and status of women and children in one of the world's most dramatic ecological hot spots. Undaunted, she continues to speak out about the crisis that is destroying the lives of her patients and the future of their communities. For contacts: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] E U R O P E Vera Mischenko, Russia Vera Mischenko has been a pioneer in supporting citizen's rights on environmental issues and was the first to use
Re: [CTRL] Fw: Magic = technology we don't understand
For a well-written summary of the "laws" of magic, see P.E.I. Bonewits,
*Real Magic* (1978). See also Arthur C. Clarke's story "Superiority"
(anthologized in numerous collections), which includes his famous statement
that "sufficiently advanced technology is indistiguishable from magic."
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According to Bernard d'Espagnat ("The Quantum Theory and Reality",
Scientific American, Nov.'79,) the
implication of Aspect's (and others)
experiments refuting Bell's Theorem and vindicating the Copenhagen
interpretation of quantum mechanics is that AT LEAST ONE of the
following basic assumptions about "Reality" and the scientific method
is wrong:
1. REALISM - the doctrine that regularities in observed phenomena are
caused by some physical reality whose
existence is INDEPENDENT of
human OBSERVERS;
2. INDUCTIVE INFERENCE is a valid means of reasoning and can be applied
freely, so that legitimate conclusions can be drawn from consistent
observations;
3. EINSTEIN SEPARABILITY (LOCALITY) - no influence of any kind can
travel faster than the speed of light.
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[CTRL] Chip Implant Offer Taken Very Seriously
Gotcha! Chip Implant Offer Taken Very Seriously http://www.privacytimes.com/ It was a deal that sounded too bad to be true. But to some folks it sounded good enough to sign up. The company would pay you $250, and all you had to do was have one of their computer chips installed in your hand so it could track how you used your computer mouse. Within a few days, not only did 100 people sign up for chip implant, but the site was scoured by unknown officials from America's leading corporations and military components. Shocked at the response, "proprietor Bill Cross" decided September 21 to pull the plug on his web site, www.idchip.com, and announce it was all a hoax. He described it as the Internet's version of "The War of The Worlds," the realistic Orson Wells radio show that convinced some listeners that the Martians were invading, even prompting a few to jump out windows. It appeared nobody jumped out of windows after visiting idchip.com, but some Christian fundamentalists certainly hit the roof. "Are you people completely stupid, mindless, or just simply evil?" asked one angry e-mail. "Taking a chip, as an implant, is called "taking the Mark Of The Beast". Period. It is taking Satan's mark, of ownership. Which obviously you have already done. Enjoy your time in Hell, eternity." But some people were ready to jump in. Cross estimated that among the 125 people who volunteered to have the chip implanted, between 40 and 75 were serious. He said this caught him off guard, and persuaded him to remove the fields from the application form in which people volunteered sensitive data, like their credit card numbers. (Cross said that he destroyed all personal data provided by these "applicants." Perhaps the most interesting aspect of the "experiment" was the attention paid to it by the "military industrial complex." The most active visitors to the Web site included unknown persons from Microsoft, IBM, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Air Force, Navy, NASA, Intellimark and American International Group (AIG). Intellimark is a high-tech "applications" company that works with the military and also is involved in the electronic patient record. AIG is a "world leader in insurance and financial services." Cross listed these organizations as the most active visitors because they spent the most time at the Web site, and visited every page. For instance, 83 visitors came from the IBM Internet connection, resulting in 737 "page views," lasting almost 5 and1/2 hours. There were 18 visitors from ibm.com, resulting in 283 "page views," lasting nearly 1 and 1/2 hours; 12 visitors from Microsoft.com, 319 "page views," lasting nearly 2 hours. The Air Force: 17 visits, 247 "page views," 2 hours. The Navy: 15 visits, 193 page views, one hour. NASA: 24 visits, 193 page views, 1 and 1/2 hours. Boeing: 14 visits, 192 page views, under 1 hour. The site received some 6,800 visitors in 48 hours. Cross said he couldn't always distinguish between serious and humorous visitors. He said hoax was merely part of a project to create a comedy Web site. "If this project had been done not as a spoof but rather as a genuine hoax by someone less benign than myself, I am thoroughly convinced that it would have led to a cataclysmic event," he wrote. -- Revelation 13:15-18 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. *[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Patriot Resource Center: http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/6627/ Online Patriot Internet Radio: http://www.geocities.com/aresister_2000/ **Live Free or Die!* A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at:
[CTRL] The MYTH of EVOLUTION - SCIENTISTS SPEAK!
Many excellent quotations. Darwinian evolution has been repeatedly discredited by several good books documenting the litany of missing chains (not links). It is the holy grail of mainstream science to think that they are able to explain the genesis of humankind. Evolution doesn't come close, but they will desperately cling to it untill they can conjure up another theory which allows them to explain everything scientifically. Darwiniian macro-evolution is a religion. It has never been observed or repeated in a laboratory. Total nonsense. Gavin. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [LIFE-GAZETTE] Christianity is not worth SHIT (fwd)
Franklin Wayne Poley wrote: On Tue, 18 Apr 2000, Nurev Ind Research wrote: HOLY SHIT POLEY !!! WHO THE HELL INVITED YOU TO BE AN ELDER OF ZION? My Great Uncle Hymie ( for whom NYC is named after, ) is head of the Learned Elders of Zion, and went ape shit upon hearing of your conversion. He delicately queried " Does that no good Khazar bastard retard think he can just decide to become a LEZ?" " May all his teeth fall out but one, and that one should always ache!" So forget it Poley. You don't have the right stuff. Joshua2 For Uncle Hymie. Now how does this Uncle Hymie compare to my great great great grandpa Shlomo Poley who WROTE the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion, founded Kazar U. and invented the bagel? FWP. He's taller, handsomer, and has a Python shlong. Poley! If you were really an LEZ then you would know better than to discuss bagels in a public forum. You know that it is forbidden to divulge how the hole is made in a bagel. If the Goyim ever found out they would stop buying them, and then we would lose our funding for taking over the world. I leave you with the warning that Zeus gave Narcissus - " You better watch yourself!" Joshua2 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The MYTH of EVOLUTION - SCIENTISTS SPEAK!
Gavin Phillips wrote: Many excellent quotations. Darwinian evolution has been repeatedly discredited by several good books documenting the litany of missing chains (not links). It is the holy grail of mainstream science to think that they are able to explain the genesis of humankind. Evolution doesn't come close, but they will desperately cling to it untill they can conjure up another theory which allows them to explain everything scientifically. Darwiniian macro-evolution is a religion. It has never been observed or repeated in a laboratory. Total nonsense. Gavin. === This is the dumbest thing I've ever seen you write. I won't even bother to respond to such an absurdity, because to do so might lead some half baked idiot to think that there are two sides to this argument, when there is no argument at all. Whatever happened to your mind? Joshua2 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Patriot's Day: Tribute to Lexington and Concord
Happy Patriot's Day! - April 18, 2000 by Chuck Baldwin Tomorrow is Patriot's Day here in the United States. It is the day when the shot was fired that was heard round the world. It was the day those colonists drew their line in the sand at Lexington Green and Concord Bridge and America's War for Independence began. It's not likely very many will notice, however. Public schools haven't taught American history for some time now. The media will focus on Waco (sparingly) and the Oklahoma City bombing. (Before these disastrous events, April 19 came and went without even so much as a mention from the propaganda press.) What most Americans have forgotten (or never learned) is that it was the attempt by the Crown to confiscate their arms that caused those Minutemen to shoulder muskets. Until then, the conflict had been largely peaceful and nonviolent. Independence was debated, even argued, but until King George sent troops to confiscate the Americans' firearms, it was an urbane disagreement. Attempted gun confiscation turned a political debate into a bloody Revolutionary War. It's funny how history tends to recycle itself. Listening to America's political leaders today (Democrats and Republicans), you would think you were living in 1775. In fact, the government of today has invented tyrannically invasive schemes that make old King George look rather tame by comparison. I submit that whatever red-blooded American patriots are left today would have no choice but to respond in a similar way when the modern day Machiavellian attempts a repeat at crossing the Concord Bridge. In the mean time, here is Emerson's tribute to those brave colonists who fought and died to procure a land of liberty for their posterity. Believe it or not, there was a time when this poem was actually found in the history books of America's schools. (It was in another dispensation.) By the rude bridge that arched the flood, Their flag to April's breeze unfurled, Here once the embattled farmers stood And fired the shot heard round the world. The foe long since in silence slept; Alike the conqueror silent sleeps; And Time the ruined bridge has swept Down the dark stream which seaward creeps. On this green bank, by this soft stream, We set today a votive stone; That memory may their deed redeem, When, like our sires, our sons are gone. Spirit, that made those heroes dare To die, and leave their children free, Bid Time and Nature gently spare The shaft we raise to them and thee. -end article- - Waco: April 19th, 1993 NEVER AGAIN!!! - Oh! thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand Between their loved home and the war's desolation! Blest with victory and peace, may the heav'n rescued land Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation. Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just, And this be our motto: "In God is our trust." And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave! *[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Patriot Resource Center: http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/6627/ Online Patriot Internet Radio: http://www.geocities.com/aresister_2000/ **Live Free or Die!* A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The MYTH of EVOLUTION - SCIENTISTS SPEAK!
There is no proof of the existence of human evolution. I learned that in a study of archeology in university. I wouldn't even bother to respond to a half baked idiot who assumes the formatted position and claims the rest of us are mindless. Wow, you are so ignorant to everyone. Is it a psychiatic problem? Tara -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Nurev Ind Research Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 11:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] The MYTH of EVOLUTION - SCIENTISTS SPEAK! Gavin Phillips wrote: Many excellent quotations. Darwinian evolution has been repeatedly discredited by several good books documenting the litany of missing chains (not links). It is the holy grail of mainstream science to think that they are able to explain the genesis of humankind. Evolution doesn't come close, but they will desperately cling to it untill they can conjure up another theory which allows them to explain everything scientifically. Darwiniian macro-evolution is a religion. It has never been observed or repeated in a laboratory. Total nonsense. Gavin. === This is the dumbest thing I've ever seen you write. I won't even bother to respond to such an absurdity, because to do so might lead some half baked idiot to think that there are two sides to this argument, when there is no argument at all. Whatever happened to your mind? Joshua2 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Patriot's Day: On April 19th in History
On April 19th in History http://www.sierratimes.com/arjp041900.htm April 19, 2000 Patriots Day, April 19, 1775 -- Massachusetts, when an unordered 'shot heard around the world' began the American Revolution. APRIL 19 1861 -- The US Civil War claims its first fatalities: four Union soldiers were stoned to death by a Baltimore mob. "The communal revolution started with the popular initiative of March 18, inaugurates one new era of experimental, positive, scientific policy. It is the end of the old governmental and clerical world, militarism, officialism, the exploitation, agiotage, the monopolies, of the privileges, to which the proletariat owes its serfdom, the fatherland its misfortunes and its disasters.(...) We, citizens of Paris, we have the mission of achieving the modern revolution, broadest and most fertile of all those which illuminated the history. We have the duty to fight and overcome!" ---excerpt, "Declaration of the commune of Paris to the French people, " of April 19, 1871." Translation by AltaVista's Babelfish APRIL 19 1919 -- Mutiny of the Sailors in the Black Sea (19 to 21 April). Several French warships around Sébastopol (brought in to aid in stopping the advances of the Red Army) are subject to mutiny. Begins with the sailors on the battleship "France," spreads. A delegation, made up partly of anarchist sailors, demands suspension of the war against Russia, the return of the ships to France, no disciplining for their actions. In Sébastopol, French officers massacre participants in a demonstration to prevent them from fraternizing with the mutineers. Despite the promises of the officers, the mutineers (such as Alphonse Sauveur Cannone; see 15 February) are treacherously arrested receive from 10 to 20 years of prison. APRIL 19 1933 -- President Franklin D. Roosevelt takes the US off the gold standard. APRIL 19 1943 -- A contingent of 2,000 heavily armed Schutzstaffel troops with tanks enter the Warsaw Poland: Ghetto . While the civilian population hides in underground bunkers, the ghetto fighters attack the Germans with incendiary bottles a few guns. Shocked by the Jewish resistance, the SS is forced to withdraw. Unable to put down the revolt with conventional weapons, the Germans resort to setting the ghetto on fire. APRIL 19 1948 -- Costa Rica abolishes its army. APRIL 19 1952 -- England: 35 Operation Gandhi supporters picket Aldermaston AWRE, a spy base. April 19,1960 -- Namibia Founding of Swapo April 19,1960 -- After that, the Korean peninsula was divided at the 38th parallel. In the north, "Kim Il-sung" who was backed up by the USSR and in the south "Syngman Rhee" who was supported by the USA established each government respectively. In South Korea, President Syngman Rhee ruled the nation with anti- communism as a state policy. President Lee was ousted by an uprising called "the April 19 Revolution". April 19, 1961-- Failed Bay of Pigs disastrous invasion of Cuba- freedom fighters betrayed by being promised air support, which was not provided. The declassified CIA documents show that the final invasion plan did bar the U.S. pilots from joining in the bombing runs. But the exile pilots, who had been attacking Cuban airports and other targets for three days before the invasion collapsed on April 19, "were exhausted and dispirited," according to the documents. Initially, the CIA blamed the lack of air cover for the invasion's failure, but the CIA inspector general's report blamed the CIA itself its arrogance, poor planning and "almost willful bungling." APRIL 19 1971 -- US: Several hundred Vietnam Veterans Against the War begin an encampment on Capitol Hill, Washington, D.C. Launch "Operation Dewey Canyon III (April 19-23). APRIL 19 1971 -- Sierra Leone Proclamation of the Republic APRIL 19 1978 -- California Governor Jerry Brown refuses a request to extradite American Indian Movement (AIM) leader Dennis Banks to South Dakota to stand trial. 04/19/1980 --Colombia Founding of M-19 The "April 19 Movement (M-19)," a leftist guerrilla group. APRIL 19 1989 -- Forty seven U.S. sailors were killed by an explosion in a gun turret on the USS Iowa during gunnery exercises in the waters off Puerto Rico..Turret explosion is initially blamed on alleged suicide pact between gay sailors, as conjectured by Naval Investigative Service as leaked to NBC News. April 19, 1992 -- Protestors rally in the annual Easter Protest at the site of nuclear weapons testing, and nearly 500 are arrested. April 19, 1992 first attempted raid on the Weaver Family April 19, 1993 - Federal agents attack Branch Davidian compound near Waco, Texas, shooting or incinerating over 80 women, men, children. Branch Davidian compound burned to the ground with 86 persons inside, including 17 children. April 19th 1994 -- Henry Kissenger, World Affairs Council Press Conference, Regent Beverly Wilshire Hotel , "[The New World Order] cannot happen without U.S. participation, as we are the most
[CTRL] Activist alert: Email question to MSNBC before 7:00 PM PDT tonight!
.. From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: Conspiracy Shopping Cart: http://a-albionic.com/shopping.html From: J. Neil Schulman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Activist alert: Email question to MSNBC before 7:00 PM PDT tonight! Date: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 1:17 PM People, Tonight at 10:00 PM to midnight, Eastern Daylight Time (7:00 PM to 9:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time), MSNBC will be hosting a live TV Town Hall meeting: "Up In Arms: What Should America Do?" featuring President Clinton. MSNBC is soliciting questions to be used for the program to be emailed in beforehand. You can email in a question by filling out a form on the MSNBC website at http://www.msnbc.com/news/392129.asp#mailbag . The description of the show is as follows: ON WEDNESDAY, APRIL 12, at 10 p.m. ET / 7 p.m. PT, MSNBC Cable presents Up in Arms: What Should America Do? a two-hour long special town meeting on gun violence in America. Broadcast live from the University of Denver one year after the tragedy at Columbine High School in Littleton, Colo., this forum will include President Bill Clinton, members of the National Rifle Association and other top leaders battling over safety and gun control. The first hour will be a detailed question-and-answer session with the president. Have a question for him about guns and gun control? Send it to us. Well select the best and ask them. I also suggest taping the show, if you have access to MSNBC. Here is the question I emailed in: -- Mr. President, Why is it that in your most recent press conference, and in other discussions of firearms, you never mention that leading criminologists tell us that 2.5 million times each year Americans successfully use a firearm in defense of their lives and their families lives? If all we knew about cars is that people die in them, wouldn't we all feel like banning cars, too? J. Neil Schulman, webmaster The World Wide Web Gun Defense Clock http://www.pulpless.com/gunclock/ Author of Stopping Power: Why 70 Million Americans Own Guns Self Control Not Gun Control -- J. Neil Schulman Shop for Cars On-Line: http://a-albionic.com/ads/srch.html Forwarded for info and discussion from the New Paradigms Discussion List, not necessarily endorsed by: *** Lloyd Miller, Research Director for A-albionic Research (POB 20273, Ferndale, MI 48220), a ruling class/conspiracy research resource for the entire political-ideological spectrum. Quarterly journal, book sales, rare/out-of-print searches, New Paradigms Discussion List, Weekly Up-date Lists E-text Archive of research, intelligence, catalogs, resources. To Discuss Ideas: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://msen.com/~lloyd/ For Ordering Info Free Catalog: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://a-albionic.com/formaddress.html For Discussion List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] text in body: subscribe prj [EMAIL PROTECTED] **FREE RARE BOOK SEARCH: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Explore Our Archive: http://a-albionic.com/a-albionic.html Every Diet Has Failed! What Can I do? Click Below to "Ask Dr. Kathleen"! http://www.radiantdiet.com/cgi-bin/slim/deliver.cgi?ask-1364 *** A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] FW: Allopathy exposed
I agree with your comments, the web site sucked, but anybody who even remotely thinks that a MD (drug dealer) is current and knowledgeable has a severed optic nerve. On the web, you really have to watch where these people are coming from and how much they want to make. If you want a little bit of history on the medical mafia, look no further than the Carnegie's and the Rockefeller's. Homeopathy was wiped out in the early 1900's because it presented formidable opposition to the money hungry MD's and upcoming pharmaceuticals. One person's sickness is another person's profit. Without allopathic medicine there would be much less profit. Troy No patent, no profit William Shannon wrote: In a message dated 4/18/00 9:10:47 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Conventional medicine "exposed" by an M.D. who is also a Homeopath. That's like a cop who is also a felon...credibility is key, this moron has none. Bill. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Will Gun Control Lead to Civil War?
Will Gun Control Lead to Civil War? by Michael E. Cook http://www.sierratimes.com/edmc041900.htm I have always said what I think and try not to offend too many people. However, this week I am going to get right down to it, so if you get offended easily then don't read on. This one will not help you at all. I am talking about what will happen in the future if the government tries to take away our rights and impose laws on We the People that are not constitutional. I know that many out there fear this very thing as I do. Freedom is a constant battle in this old world of ours. I, like many of you went out and fought for freedom and our way of life and have many times put it all on the line for that freedom. I, like many of you will be willing and able to do it again. Now we can get down to the point I am trying to make. Those that would take our rights away from us are using the violence in our schools and other places as a vehicle to take those rights. We have already lost our property rights to the endangered species act and other federal laws. Many of you are out of work and Coos County is Depressed because of this. Our way of life and the quality of that life has suffered in Coos County. The violence they tell us is beyond control as long as you and I have the right to own firearms. We must give up our most important right, which by the way, gives us the ability to protect our other rights, to stop crime and violence in our streets. This is what they try to push down our throat every day. My questions to those who would take that right are: What is an acceptable body-count for taking that right? How many Americans are you willing to have killed on both sides of the issue to take that right? What's the value of that right to you? I will tell you this right now, if they try to take firearms from most of the gun owners I know, including me, it will be another civil war here in America. The last one had a high body count and this one will be even higher. The reason is because everyone killed is American. There will be law enforcement officers, military personnel, and civilians lost in this war. This is one fight I am not looking forward to and I know it will destroy America. The rules of engagement are lost on the civilians. We don't have jet aircraft and smart bombs, so we will have to fight with whatever we can until they kill us. We will fight and we will do the best we can, however I know the outcome and I'm ready for that also. I'm at peace with my God. The bottom line is we don't need to even have this fight. If the traitors who are in our government and elsewhere would stop their treason, or get arrested and punished for it, this would not happen. You and I have let this happen by allowing our media and our government to push this on Americans. We can no longer allow that to happen if we want to avoid a war. That is the bottom line. When Sarah Brady at Handgun Control, Inc. can draw down a salary of $277,891.00 a year for her treasonous acts against the Second Amendment, without standing trial, and getting that kind of wage, we will continue to be run over. HCI has an annual budget of $7,624, 306. They spend this and more each year to take your rights. The president of the NRA doesn't get a salary. Does this tell you anything? You can make life tuff for HCI. Write and ask for a copy of form 990, which they are required by law to provide. The address is: Handgun Control, Inc. 1225 Eye Street, N.W., Room 1100 Washington, D.C. 20005. They have to pay staff to copy and send you 13 pages of that report. You need to include an addressed, stamped envelope. We could make them so busy they won't have time to fight. Keep your ear to the ground and your eyes open, and your powder dry. It is coming and it won't be fun. Michael E. Cook, Retired Sheriff - Coos County. -end article- "...but if circumstances should at any time oblige the government to form an army of any magnitude, that army can never be formidable to the liberties of the people, while there is a large body of citizens, little if at all inferior to them in discipline and use of arms, who stand ready to defend their rights..." -Alexander Hamilton *[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Patriot Resource Center: http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/6627/ Online Patriot Internet Radio: http://www.geocities.com/aresister_2000/ **Live Free or Die!* A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always
Re: [CTRL] PLEASE POST IN TEXT FORMAT ONLY! (WAS: Re: [CTRL] The MYTH of EVOLUTION - SCIENTISTS SPEAK!)
As a research professional I like to have the citations of what ever propaganda is being fed to me. If it is good I like being able to use those citations when I write my own essays. Normal an web page is easy to read. As far as it's capability of having a virus - from now on I will put a dis-claimer on a post that it is a web page and allow a person the choice of opening it. My netscape will not allow me to paste the text from a FRAME page on it in the original formatting. I do not have the time to re-do formatting. This also comes into play in another way since I have two lists that come in through my Explorer browser and If I want to post those First I have to send it to my mailbox that is tied to my Netscape browser then I have to reformat to send it. to give you some idea of what happens when I type a full line 000 this email program does not allow it, but it will send a web page in original I will preface it with a HTML tag in the subject line and attempt to make sure that I never send anything like that one. I could not read it either. ThePiedPiper A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] More on HTML and URLs was Re: [CTRL] PLEASE POST IN TEXT
--- "Robert F. Tatman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't use attachments or URLs when you want to share something with the list. Copy and paste the text into a message, and post *that*. Let me also add that HTML takes up 4 times the bandwidth of the same amount of plain text. URL's I don't have a problem with because they take up less space than copy/paste the whole text. I don't surf while I'm reading my email. I write them down and type them into my browser window later, after I close all other applications. That way I don't lose data when the computer totally freezes up, like it does for some web sites. Best bet is still a good virus detection program, like Norton http://www.norton.com or McAfee http://www.mcafee.com installed on your machine. I have McAfee's VShield configured to run constantly, beginning at startup. On Windows systems, click Start, Programs, McAfee Virus Scan, VShield Configuration Manager. You'll know it's running when the red, white and blue shield-shaped icon appears on your taskbar next to the clock. And if you must download an attachment from an email, save it to a floppy, run your virus detection program over the floppy, THEN open the file. You can't be THE ONE who blows the whole conspiracy shebang out of the water, becoming the world's hero/heroine, if your computer is down with a virus. Tenorlove, who is still waiting for a re-post of the original message __ Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The MYTH of EVOLUTION - SCIENTISTS SPEAK!
Arthur C. Clarke is half baked in the light of todays knowledge. But I guess they and their Communist ideas are right they are genetically not able to evolve or learn. No wonder Communist want to acquire and (try to) capitalize on what the Jones have. They are not capable of seeing that they MIGHT be able to earn something themselves so they have to take it from someone else. that if someone were telepathic that the brain would atrophy and electric connections would not be made to learn or think on it's own. When asked if they want brains or telepathy you can tell which one they chose. . . But they can just use someone else's brain? About as good as having a computer or a database program, only as good as the queries that you format or that someone else has left you. Telepaths that can do original thinking? Ha!! They are not wired right, they are not in their right brains or in their left brains since their brains have left. By the way evolution would be right since telepathic brains would atrophy from not being used. If you can lose something then I guess you should be able to acquire it. Evolve it if you think it is needed? De-Evolution of the Human Race. Tara wrote: There is no proof of the existence of human evolution. I learned that in a study of archeology in university. I wouldn't even bother to respond to a half baked idiot who assumes the formatted position and claims the rest of us are mindless. Wow, you are so ignorant to everyone. Is it a psychiatic problem? Tara -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Nurev Ind Research Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 11:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] The MYTH of EVOLUTION - SCIENTISTS SPEAK! Gavin Phillips wrote: Many excellent quotations. Darwinian evolution has been repeatedly discredited by several good books documenting the litany of missing chains (not links). It is the holy grail of mainstream science to think that they are able to explain the genesis of humankind. Evolution doesn't come close, but they will desperately cling to it untill they can conjure up another theory which allows them to explain everything scientifically. Darwiniian macro-evolution is a religion. It has never been observed or repeated in a laboratory. Total nonsense. Gavin. === This is the dumbest thing I've ever seen you write. I won't even bother to respond to such an absurdity, because to do so might lead some half baked idiot to think that there are two sides to this argument, when there is no argument at all. Whatever happened to your mind? Joshua2 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A
Re: [CTRL] (TARA) HULDA CLARK - Cheap Cancer
(TARA) HULDA CLARK - Cheap Cancer cure-all! From what i remember of this old bird - she had this gadget she was flogging to death (excuzi moi the aussie lingo) - this device was a miraculous electronic cancer cure-all constructed from a few dollars worth of electronic bits from your local (Radio Shack?) electronics store, some wiring, and a couple of alligator clips, with short metallic pipes attached (and variations thereof). Voila!!! Now, i'm all for alternative "health" and all that jive - but i'm not so certain i'm a keen supporter for alternative death - as yet! The zappers as used by Hulda Clarke and others (Bob Beck) have a long history of effectiveness. Small electric currents run through the body are shown by user testimonials to be extremely effective in clearing up fungal, parasitic and other microorganisms that shouldn't really be in a healthy human body. Heck, there are a heap of farmers who have cured themselves of Ross River virus simply by grabbing their electric fence for a minute or so. As always, there will be johnny-come-latelys who merely try to cash in on the popularity of zappers, but these zappers are only popular because they work. regards Duncan Duncan M. Roads Editor, NEXUS Magazine PO Box 30, Mapleton Qld 4560 Australia Tel: +61 (0)7 5442 9280; Fax: +61 (0)7 5442 9381 http://www.nexusmagazine.com ICQ#62399259 "The nature of the universe is such that ends can never justify the means. On the contrary, the means always determine the end." (Aldous Huxley) A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] More on HTML and URLs was Re: [CTRL] PLEASE POST IN TEXT
I do not know about your program but in mine all that is sent is the url It just allows you mail program to go to that url. Bandwidth is less, not more. The reason that your browser can have a problem is because you are not connected to the internet so that your e-mail program access the web page. If you can tell me of a browser (easily) do what you seem to want to require and are willing to buy it for me - are you attempting to get some of us to buy some kind of easy cut and paste browser? Or just trying to cut down on the amount of research that this list is currently capable of doing ThePiedPiper Tenorlove wrote: --- "Robert F. Tatman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't use attachments or URLs when you want to share something with the list. Copy and paste the text into a message, and post *that*. Let me also add that HTML takes up 4 times the bandwidth of the same amount of plain text. URL's I don't have a problem with because they take up less space than copy/paste the whole text. I don't surf while I'm reading my email. I write them down and type them into my browser window later, after I close all other applications. That way I don't lose data when the computer totally freezes up, like it does for some web sites. Best bet is still a good virus detection program, like Norton http://www.norton.com or McAfee http://www.mcafee.com installed on your machine. I have McAfee's VShield configured to run constantly, beginning at startup. On Windows systems, click Start, Programs, McAfee Virus Scan, VShield Configuration Manager. You'll know it's running when the red, white and blue shield-shaped icon appears on your taskbar next to the clock. And if you must download an attachment from an email, save it to a floppy, run your virus detection program over the floppy, THEN open the file. You can't be THE ONE who blows the whole conspiracy shebang out of the water, becoming the world's hero/heroine, if your computer is down with a virus. Tenorlove, who is still waiting for a re-post of the original message __ Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Voodoo doctors practicing medicine w/o licence
My sister died of cancer at 34 because she was convinced by a woman named Helga, who claims all kinds of cance healings with her crystal analyzing crap and vitamin and homeopathic rememdies. She told my sister NOT to get any conventional treatment. My sister is not the first woman, or man whom she has been responsible for the death of. She even claims to have treated my doctor's son for leukemia, and curing him. She tells all of her patients the story, and about how the cancer center sends her their most hopless cases. I asked my doc if the story about his son was true and it was a bald faced lie. Adam had never even met the quack! He was cured through conventional therapy at 6 and is now still cancer free at almost 20. I belive in non-convential treatment, but always with the support of an actual doctor. Maybe my beautiful sister would still be alive if she'd never met this terrible woman. And in Canada their is no organization, including any level of policing or physician's board that will even do anything. And she continues to see 'patients' at over 70 bucks a visit + all the crap she wants you to take (usually billing out at 200-400$ a visit). It may not be a true conspiracy, but there's something in the conspirational doctrine of the nwo here. Of that I have no doubt. By the way, my father in law, in his 90's, cures skin infections with a plantain poultice and it works, but that's proven folk medicine, not b.s., empty your bank acoount, voodoo. Tara A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The MYTH of EVOLUTION - SCIENTISTS SPEAK!
I believe there is sufficient evidence for Micro-evolution by the fossil record. I even believe that some forms of Macro-evolution may occur under proper circumstances, but that there is little if any evidence from the fossil record for same. Regardless of where you stand on this issue it must be acknowledged that the scientific establishment is hide bound and recalcitrant when it comes to opposing viewpoints which call into question their dogma, and evolution is perhaps the greatest dogma of all. Even if all of evolution is indeed true in the sense that it happened pretty much like scientists surmise, all of the anti-evolutionists/Deists/Christians/Creationists, can still take heart because there is absolutely nothing which I am aware of in the scientific literature which explains the rise of life from non-life, and in fact it is accepted scientific fact (by the scientists themselves) that a-biogenisis cannot occur. SO. . .that means they still can't explain where life came from even if they can tell how it came to be so diverse. On Wed, 19 April 2000, David Sutherland wrote: The MYTH of EVOLUTION - SCIENTISTS SPEAK! The size of this Conspiracy is enormous! Permeating all western thought from religion, philosophy, ethics, science, astronomy, sociology, and so forth! Top-flight scientists have something to tell you about evolution. Such statements will never be found in the popular magazines, alongside gorgeous paintings of ape-man and Big Bangs and solemn pronouncements about millions of years for this rock and that fish. Instead they are generally reserved only for professional books and journals. Most scientists are working in very narrow fields; they do not see the overall picture, and assume, even though their field does not prove evolution, that perhaps other areas of science probably vindicate it. They are well-meaning men. The biologists and geneticists know their facts, and research does not prove evolution, but assume that geology does. The geologists know their field does not prove evolution, but hope that the biologists and geneticists have proven it. Those who do know the facts, fear to disclose them to the general public, lest they be fired. But they do write articles in their own professional journals and books, condemning evolutionary theory. Included below are a number of admissions by leading evolutionists of earlier decades, such as *Charles Darwin, *Austin Clark, or *Fred Hoyle. The truth is that evolutionists cannot make scientific facts fit the theory. An asterisk ( * ) by a name indicates that person is not known to be a creationist. The Darwinian theory of descent has not a single fact to confirm it in the realm of nature. It is not the result of scientific research, but purely the product of imagination.*Dr. Fleischman [Erlangen zoologist]. It is almost invariably assumed that animals with bodies composed of a single cell represent the primitive animals from which all others derived. They are commonly supposed to have preceded all other animal types in their appearance. There is not the slightest basis for this assumption.*Austin Clark, The New Evolution (1930), pp. 235-236. The hypothesis that life has developed from inorganic matter is, at present, still an article of faith.*J.W.N. Sullivan, The Limitations of Science (1933), p. 95. Where are we when presented with the mystery of life? We find ourselves facing a granite wall which we have not even chipped . . We know virtually nothing of growth, nothing of life.*W. Kaempffert, The Greatest Mystery of All: The Secret of Life, New York Times. The theory of evolution is totally inadequate to explain the origin and manifestation of the inorganic world. Sir John Ambrose Fleming, F.R.S., quoted in H. Enoch, Evolution or Creation (1966), p. 91 [discoverer of the thermionic valve]. I think, however, that we must go further than this and admit that the only acceptable explanation is creation. I know that this is anathema to physicists, as indeed it is to me, but we must not reject a theory that we do not like if the experimental evidence supports it.*H. Lipson, A Physicist Looks at Evolution, Physics Bulletin, 31 (1980), p. 138. I am not satisfied that Darwin proved his point or that his influence in scientific and public thinking has been beneficial . . the success of Darwinism was accomplished by a decline in scientific integrity.*W.R. Thompson, Introduction to *Charles Darwins, Origin of the Species [Canadian scientist]. One of the determining forces of scientism was a fantastic accidental imagination which could explain every irregularity in the solar system without explanation, leap the gaps in the atomic series without evidence [a gap required by the Big Bang theory], postulate the discovery of fossils which have never been discovered, and prophesy the success of breeding experiments which have never succeeded. Of
[CTRL] Fwd: The LOOP : McCaffrey attempts to supress report
^^^\| ||\ | Opium EXPRESS | ||','''|'''\___, | __ | ||__|'__|___|| ['''(@)'(@)**|(@)(@) *'(@)* From Seattle to Sydney 2000: Of its kind : The most powerful communications group in existance The "Oversight Olympiad" 86% of the all the heroin on the streets of Aus? Editorial : If you call the New York Times and tell them that you are concerned as to how General Barry McCaffrey, while unable to oust Aus's local smack dealers, the Burmese military junta, is waging a genuine war upon drugs.. They will tell you that there are hundreds (too many) of disgruntled people, all waging war on McCaffrey. However, the following accusation is both different from the usual, and may lay at the very heart of all our concerns, if proven true. What can one do against such Pentagoonian odds? One can only suggest to those who need to get into the Front Line with some extra rapido, consider this possibliity of a war crime accusation against the workings of the offices of the US Drug Czar, as extra motivation to bring down the Games. If the General and his friends are defiant, foolish and corrupt enough to allow Rangoon to send a team to the Opium Olympiad. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/World/Americas/2000-04/warcrimes190400.shtml The Independent (UK) General attacks journalist over war crimes allegations By Andrew Marshall in Washington 19 April 2000 A high-profile battle has broken out in Washington between a retired general and a leading journalist over allegations of war crimes by US forces in Iraq. What is particularly unusual is that the allegations have been made public by the man at the centre of them, in what appears to be a pre-emptive strike. Indeed, that is the only form in which the allegations exist: no one else has publicly raised them. General Barry McCaffrey, who runs the White House war on drugs, has attacked journalist Seymour Martin Hersh for making claims about war crimes in an article he is preparing for The New Yorker magazine, even though Mr Hersh has written nothing so far. The protagonists are both highly experienced and respected in their fields. General McCaffrey was the most highly decorated and youngest four-star army general at retirement, with two Distinguished Service Crosses and two Silver Stars for his actions in Vietnam. He commanded 26,000 soldiers of the US Army 24th Infantry Division Combat Team during Desert Storm, and was awarded the Distinguished Service Medal for leading a massive left-hook attack into Iraq. He now heads the Office of National Drug Control Policy in the White House, and is a very controversial figure. Mr Hersh is one of the best-known investigative reporters in the world. As a freelance in 1969, he wrote the first account of the My Lai massacre in Vietnam. He has worked for The New York Times and written for The New Yorker, as well as publishing books on Henry Kissinger, Gulf War Syndrome, and a controversial book on John F Kennedy, The Dark Side of Camelot. _ Follow the plea by Daw Aung San Suu Kyi, and the appreciations of HH the Dalai Lama, the Shan Democratic Union, film maker John Pilger, the Free Burma Coalition, author Alan Clements, MPs Dennis Skinner, Tony Benn, Ann Clwyd, Maria Fyfe, Mike Hancock, Congress-woman Maxine Waters, Dr and Welsh rugby star JPR Williams, Hendrix bassist Noel Redding, S African jazz pianist Abdullah Ibrahim, All Burma Students Democratic Organisation, All Burma Students Democratic Front, Tasmanian Trades Labour Council, SACP, COSATU, Tim Gopsill, editor. [EMAIL PROTECTED], and numerous others. Supporting a Genuine war upon drugs and human rights abuse. Sydney 2000 : Burma Out! http://www.mihra.org/2k/burma.htm Music Industry Human Rights Association http://www.mihra.org / [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [CTRL] [LIFE-GAZE --NOPOST J2
Please J2, if you haven't been "fllowing the latest controversy" - tough-, but there is really no reason "to poke at the animals in their cages" "funny" comments but the provocation in headline is bad form MHO Please, ALL, desist this uncivil silly divisve bs. Take it somewhere else. I ain't got the time or paitence. two day nopost. Om K A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Rag-Tag Riders
"Rag-Tag Riders" carry Bell's message April 19, 2000 07:50 CST http://www.cosmiverse.com/paranormal041901.html Veteran radio host Art Bell may be going off the air April 26, but a movement is afoot to keep the airwaves open to the kind of controversial topics Bell has tackled in his quest for answers to the unexplained over the years. Earlier this week, Rob McConnell, of Newstalk 610 CKTB and Affinity Radio Group, fired off a memo to leadership in the UFO reporting and disclosure community saying that a new group of "Riders" has been formed to maintain Bell's momentum. Bell announced in late March that he was retiring from his nationwide Coast-to-Coast evening radio program for personal and professional reasons. Since Bell's surprise move, speculation has increased that there might be something more to the story. For his part, McConnell's not happy with Bell's replacement, nor with the alleged censorship changes that have occurred on Bell's website since his announcement in March. "There are a group of long-time, very loyal, Art Bell fans that have gotten together," said McConnell. "We call ourselves the RIDERS, as in Wanna Take a Ride, that Art has been using for a long time. We have found that since the announcement '¥the message boards at www.artbell.com have come under extreme scrutiny and censorship by the webmaster. So we RIDERS have formed an online e-mail messaging service and are communicating and posting messages there instead of on Art's former website," McConnell said in a memo distributed via Skywatch and other paranormal./UFO-related sites. "We are concerned that what (Bell's successors) are doing is to water-down and whitewash Coast to Coast, because we think Art shook too many trees...that in mind, we are also afraid that many of you, Art's long-time favorite guests, will not be able to get onto the program with your reports - especially in a timely manner," said McConnell. "So, with that said, we RIDERS have an idea, and we'd like you all to participate. You don't need to leave home, and if you're already on-line, it won't cost you anything. We are all meeting next Saturday afternoon, April 22, at 5:00 pm EDT/2:00 pm PDT at www.egroups.com. This will be the AfterMidnight Group Chat Meeting. One of the things we intend to discuss is the possibility of organizing and setting up a webcast radio-type program, where you all will be invited to speak," he said. "Please know also, that we are not trying to subvert Coast to Coast Premier network, or Art Bell. We are just trying to preserve the timely flow of important information." McConnell signed his message "the rag-tag group of After Midnight Riders." Staff Writer Sally Suddock A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
