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2002-08-19 Thread Euphorian

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From http://www.progressive.org/0901/anth0498.html

Anthrax for Export
U.S. companies sold Iraq the ingredients for a witch's brew

by William Blum



The United States almost went to war against Iraq in February because of Saddam


Hussein's weapons program. In his State of the Union address, President Clinton 
castigated
Hussein for developing nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons and the missiles to
deliver them.

You cannot defy the will of the world, the President proclaimed. You have used 
weapons
of mass destruction before. We are determined to deny you the capacity to use them
again.

Most Americans listening to the President did not know that the United States supplied 
Iraq
with much of the raw material for creating a chemical and biological warfare program. 
Nor
did the media report that U.S. companies sold Iraq more than $1 billion worth of the
components needed to build nuclear weapons and diverse types of missiles, including the
infamous Scud.

When Iraq engaged in chemical and biological warfare in the 1980s, barely a peep of 
moral
outrage could be heard from Washington, as it kept supplying Saddam with the materials
he needed to build weapons.

From 1980 to 1988, Iraq and Iran waged a terrible war against each other, a war that
might not have begun if President Jimmy Carter had not given the Iraqis a green light 
to
attack Iran, in response to repeated provocations. Throughout much of the war, the 
United
States provided military aid and intelligence information to both sides, hoping that 
each
would inflict severe damage on the other.

Noam Chomsky suggests that this strategy is a way for America to keep control of its 
oil
supply:

It's been a leading, driving doctrine of U.S. foreign policy since the 1940s that the 
vast and
unparalleled energy resources of the Gulf region will be effectively dominated by the 
United
States and its clients, and, crucially, that no independent indigenous force will be 
permitted
to have a substantial influence on the administration of oil production and price.

During the Iran-Iraq war, Iraq received the lion's share of American support because 
at the
time Iran was regarded as the greater threat to U.S. interests. According to a 1994 
Senate
report, private American suppliers, licensed by the U.S. Department of Commerce, 
exported
a witch's brew of biological and chemical materials to Iraq from 1985 through 1989. 
Among
the biological materials, which often produce slow, agonizing death, were:

* Bacillus Anthracis, cause of anthrax.

* Clostridium Botulinum, a source of botulinum toxin.

* Histoplasma Capsulatam, cause of a disease attacking lungs, brain, spinal cord, and

heart.

* Brucella Melitensis, a bacteria that can damage major organs.

* Clostridium Perfringens, a highly toxic bacteria causing systemic illness.

* Clostridium tetani, a highly toxigenic substance.

Also on the list: Escherichia coli (E. coli), genetic materials, human and bacterial 
DNA,


and dozens of other pathogenic biological agents. These biological materials were not
attenuated or weakened and were capable of reproduction, the Senate report stated. It
was later learned that these microorganisms exported by the United States were 
identical
to those the United Nations inspectors found and removed from the Iraqi biological 
warfare
program.

The report noted further that U.S. exports to Iraq included the precursors to chemical-
warfare agents, plans for chemical and biological warfare production facilities, and
chemical-warhead filling equipment.

The exports continued to at least November 28, 1989, despite evidence that Iraq was
engaging in chemical and biological warfare against Iranians and Kurds since as early 
as
1984.

The American company that provided the most biological materials to Iraq in the 1980s 
was
American Type Culture Collection of Maryland and Virginia, which made seventy shipments
of the anthrax-causing germ and other pathogenic agents, according to a 1996 Newsday
story.

Other American companies also provided Iraq with the chemical or biological compounds,
or the facilities and equipment used to create the compounds for chemical and 
biological
warfare. Among these suppliers were the following:

* Alcolac International, a Baltimore chemical manufacturer already linked to the 
illegal
shipment of chemicals to Iran, shipped large quantities of thiodiglycol (used to make
mustard gas) as well as other chemical and biological ingredients, according to a 1989
story in The New York Times.

* Nu Kraft Mercantile Corp. of Brooklyn (affiliated with the United Steel and Strip
Corporation) also supplied Iraq with huge amounts of thiodiglycol, the Times reported.

* Celery Corp., Charlotte, NC

* Matrix-Churchill Corp., Cleveland, OH (regarded as a front for the Iraqi government,

according to Representative Henry Gonzalez, Democrat of Texas, who quoted U.S.
intelligence documents to this effect in a 1992 speech on the House floor).

The 

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In a message dated 8/19/02 5:46:33 AM, RAMillegan writes:

The groundbreaking ceremony took place on

September 11, 1941.

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RE: PHOTO TRICKEROLOGY? 
911 DATES IN US HISTORY

[WORLD TRADE CENTER SPLIT  ILLUMINATED BY RISING SUN]
http://www.midasreport.com/images/wtcphoto.jpg

This picture was taken by a lady returning on a cruise this past summer (July 28, 
2001). It
is a sunrise over lower Manhattan.

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9-11 DATES IN US HISTORY
(SCOTTISH RITE JOURNAL OF FREEMASONRY COURTESY OF US POSTAL
SERVICE'S REFUSAL TO DELIVER MAIL TO CORRECT ADDRESS)
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SEPTEMBER 11, 1941 -- PENTAGON GROUNDBREAKING

http://www.defenselink.mil/pubs/pentagon/facts.html

Facts  Figures

The Pentagon—a building, institution, and symbol—was conceived at
the request of Brigadier General Brehon B. Sommervell, Chief of
the Construction Division of the Office of the Quartermaster
General, on a weekend in mid-July 1941. The purpose was to
provide a temporary solution to the War Department’s critical
shortage of space.The groundbreaking ceremony took place on
September 11, 1941. The building was dedicated on January 15,
1943, nearly 16 months to the day after the groundbreaking. 



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SEPTEMBER 11, 1826 -- FREEMASONS MURDER CAPTAIN MORGAN
ANTI-MASONIC PARTY FOUNDED IN NEXT PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION

Publius Press
by Ralph Epperson

A Review of the Book Titled 'MORALS AND DOGMA' 

A second source of the words of the Masonic ritual is contained
in a book entitled FREEMASONRY EXPOSED [AKA Illustrations of
Masonry]. It was published in 1826
by Captain William Morgan, and its publication exposing the
ritual of the Masons caused a national scandal after the Captain
was murdered by them on September 11, 1826. Some of the American
people were so outraged by this murder that they formed the
Anti-Mason Party, the first of this nation's 3rd political
parties, and they ran candidates for the Presidency and Vice
Presidenncy of the United States in the election of 1832. They
received about 7% of the national vote [7 times greater than

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www.cuttingedge.org http://cuttingedge.org:80/newsletters/../index.html  August 17, 
2002
 

MAJOR NEWS ALERT!

BUSH ADMINISTRATION IS IMPLEMENTING DEADLY NEW POLICE STATE POLICIES

Suddenly, this past week, two stories emerged that demonstrates the true spiritual and 
political character of President Bush and Attorney General John Ashcroft.

First, Reuters carried a story that was picked up in The London Guardian, that Bush 
has ordered American military and intelligence services to begin murdering suspected 
terrorists in whichever country they found them. According to some news sources, the 
original Reuter's article included suspected terrorists located within the United 
States. These suspected terrorists would have no rights to trial, no guarantees that 
they could defend themselves against charges that may turn out to be true. In other 
words, a person may be murdered because of untrue charges. Just such an American 
operation in the Vietnam War murdered many innocent citizens, so the precedent has 
been set for the same thing to happen here. As in Vietnam, citizens may be murdered 
simply because the government wants dissenters out of the way, or simply because 
another citizen wanted to get even with a personal enemy!

Secondly, Attorney General John Ashcroft announced plans to create concentration camps 
for suspected enemy combatants within the United States! Experience with Ashcroft 
since 9/11 has taught us that when he declares someone an enemy combatant that 
person is arrested and jailed without charges, without releasing his name, and without 
anyone knowing where he is or how he is being treated! In other words, Ashcroft has 
used this term - enemy combatants - as a cover for denying people their 
Constitutional Rights!

Thirdly, when you understand that the Bush Administration has already re-defined a 
terrorist in such a way that he could be an American citizen totally unrelated to 
Muslim terror, you understand the terrible implications of these new Police State, 
dictatorial policies.

America could see assassinations of her citizens on our streets, in our homes, and on 
our work places. No more serious breach of fundamental American principles is 
imaginable. This is very, very serious.

We have posted an analysis of this terrible development on Headline News, 
http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1691.cfm 
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Planes of 9/11 exceeded their software limits and 9/11 'cell calls impossible'
http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?id=149495article=32117

Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 20:36:34 -0500
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Planes of 911 exceeded their software limits

Submitted by: Anonymous Jim Heikkila Saturday August 17, 2002

Two of the aircraft exceeded their software limits on 911


The Boeing 757 and 767 are equipped with fully autonomous flight capability,
they are the only two Boeing commuter aircraft capable of fully autonomous
flight. They can be programmed to take off, fly to a destination and land,
completely without a pilot at the controls.

They are intelligent planes, and have software limits pre set so that pilot
error cannot cause passenger injury. Though they are physically capable of
high g maneuvers, the software in their flight control systems prevents high
g maneuvers from being performed via the cockpit controls. They are limited
to approximately 1.5 g's, I repeat, one and one half g's. This is so that a
pilot mistake cannot end up breaking grandma's neck.

No matter what the pilot wants, he cannot override this feature.

The plane that hit the Pentagon approached or reached its actual physical
limits, military personnel have calculated that the Pentagon plane pulled
between five and seven g's in its final turn.

The same is true for the second aircraft to impact the WTC.

There is only one way this can happen.

As well as fully autonomous flight capability, the 767 and 757 are the ONLY
COMMUTER PLANES MADE BY BOEING THAT CAN BE FLOWN VIA REMOTE CONTROL. It is
a feature that is standard to all of them, all 757's and 767's can do it.
The purpose for this is if there is a problem with the pilots, Norad can
fly the planes to safe destinations via remote. Only in this flight mode
can those craft exceed their software limits and perform to their actual
physical limits because a pre existing emergency situation is assumed if
this mode of flight is used.

Terrorists in fact did not fly those planes, it is totally and completely
impossible for those planes to have been flown in such a manner from the
cockpit. Those are commuter aircraft, not F-16's and their software knows
it.

Another piece of critical evidence: the voice recorders came up blank.

The flight recorders that were recovered had tape that was undamaged inside,
but it was blank. There is only one way this can happen on a 757 or 767. When
the aircraft are commandeered via remote control, the microphones that go to
the cockpit voice recorder are re routed to the people doing the remote
controlling, so that the recording of what happened in the cockpit gets made
in a presumably safer place. But due to a glitch in the system on a 757/767,
rather than shutting off when the mic is redirected the voice recorder keeps
running. The voice recorders use what is called a continuous loop tape, which
automatically re passes itself past the erase and record heads once every half
hour, so after a half hour of running with the microphones redirected, the
tape will be blank. Just like the recovered tapes were. Yet more proof that
no pilot flew those planes in the last half hour.

Eight of the hijackers who were on those planes called up complaining that
they were still alive. I'd bet you never heard about our foreign minister
flying to Morocco and issuing an official apology to the accused, did you?
No, terrorists did not fly those planes, plastic knives and box cutters
were in fact too ridiculous to be true. Any of the remaining accused have
certainly been sought out and 

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I have no explanation or understanding of this hoax beyond huh?
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At any rate, the Bill Gates assasination is the subject of a movie,
http://www.nothingsostrange.com/

The movie site has a clip that is a Must See, because it explains the factual
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[CTRL] Fwd: [NewPacifica] Top 10 Lies About West Nile Virus

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Top 10 Lies About West Nile Virus (written in 2000)

By Robert Lederman

1. THE ONLY SIDE-EFFECTS OF PESTICIDE EXPOSURE ARE COUGHING, STUFFY NOSE,
ITCHING AND WATERY EYES
Exactly like an allergic reaction to pollen, these responses to the toxic
ingredients of Anvil, Malathion etc. are an attempt by a person's immune
system to flush the substances from the body. Mucus nasal secretions, tears
and coughing to expel the irritant from the lungs are not the harmful
effects of exposure but are simply proof that the body recognizes Anvil as
something it wants to get rid of immediately.
The symptoms of a disease are not the effects of a disease. If you have
emphysema from cigarette smoking, you may feel tired and have difficulty
breathing. In response, you might use an inhaler and temporarily breath
better, but that would hardly mean you had recovered from the disease or
from permanent damage to your lung tissue.
The suspected, and in many cases already proven, long-term effects of
exposure to pyrethroid pesticides such as Anvil include immune-system and
liver damage, endocrine disruption, possible proliferation of breast-cancer
cells, possible lowered sperm counts and cognitive difficulties. The latest
science concerning this finds that at minimal exposures, serious health
effects and endocrine disruption have been observed. The real damage from
exposure to these chemicals won't be manifested until long after the
itching, runny nose or coughing have stopped. By then, few people will
remember or be able to prove the connection between exposure and their
illness.

2. WEST NILE VIRUS (WNV) IS A DEADLY DISEASE
The media keep referring to WNV as a deadly disease transmitted by killer
mosquitoes. Yet, they qualify these claims by saying that WNV is very hard
to become infected by and that most people who do get infected recover
without any treatment and without experiencing any symptoms. So which is
it - a deadly infectious disease, or very mild and hard to become infected
by? It can't be both.
According to the Center for Disease Control (CDC), the largest-known WNV
epidemic in history occurred in Romania in 1996. Approximately 100,000
people allegedly became infected. About 400 of those people became ill with
symptoms of encephalitis. Only 15 of those people, all of whom were older
than 65, died. Considering the level of health care in that country and the
poor nutritional status and immune health of its senior citizens, these
statistics indicate that the virus is less dangerous than the common cold.
[See: www.naba.org/wnvirus.html]. In New York City, according to the
Department of Health's own study, of the four NYC residents alleged to have
died in 1999 from WNV, three were taking immunosuppresant cancer drugs and
the fourth was HIV-positive. This indicates that only people with severely
compromised immune systems die from WNV and that even in those cases, death
is rare. If you read the most recent accounts of people who are allegedly
infected or who died from WNV in 2002 all were recovering from surgery, or
were previously quite ill or had otherwise very weak immune systems. What is
the most common side-effect of pesticide exposure? A weakened immune system.
[See: New York City Department of Health, West Nile Virus: A Briefing, City
Health Information Vol. 19, No. 1 (May 2000) at
http://www.ci.nyc.ny.us/html/doh/html/chi/chi.html]

3. SEVEN PEOPLE DIED LAST YEAR (written in 2000) FROM WNV
Every Giuliani press release and every news report prominently mentions that
seven people died in the general NYC area last year from WNV. Like the
Mayor's crime statistics or the Federal government's claims that the 

[CTRL] [BCPOLITICS] ALF media spokesperson reporrts on renewed harrassment by the State (fwd)

2002-08-19 Thread Party of Citizens

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Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 09:21:46 -0700
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Subject: [BCPOLITICS] ALF media spokesperson reporrts on renewed
harrassment by the State

This is state terrorism at its worst.
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Canadian Secret Police Raid Activist's Home for U.S. Authorities

Political police continue harassment campaign against Animal Liberation
Front
spokesperson

By David Barbarash
North American A.L.F. Press Office
Aug. 18, 2002

On Tuesday July 30, 9 members of the RCMP, Canada's national police agency,
led by Cpl. Derrick Ross of the Integrated National Security Enforcement
Team
(see sidebar article, Insidious INSET below), executed a Search Warrant
and
raided my home and office in Courtenay, British Columbia. The search and
seizure was carried out on behalf of law enforcement from two counties in
the
State of Maine, under the auspices of the Mutual Legal Assistance in
Criminal
Matters Treaty.

Although no one was home at the time, and access to the house could easily
have been gained by breaking a window or picking a lock (the latter of which
they would normally do to install electronic eavesdropping devices), the
RCMP
felt it somehow necessary to kick in the door. The wood was shattered, the
window was cracked, and the doorframe and wall were damaged, all of which
made
the door completely unusable. When the police completed their search at 6:30
pm, ten and a half hours after they began, they screwed in a sheet of
chipboard over the doorway, leaving behind ransacked rooms, scattered files
and garbage, and probably a few more bugs in the walls and ceilings.

Seized from my home were both my computers, dozens of computer disks,
hundreds
of videos, miscellaneous photos, files, and papers, four U.S. postal mail
bags, plus documents and files seized (and later returned) from previous
RCMP
raids.

One might reasonably suspect that there was some recent ALF action of
immense
and costly proportions in which I was suspected of having some involvement
to
warrant such a cross-border raid, but in fact the incidents Kennebec and
Sagadahoc County Sheriffs are investigating took place three years ago in
the
summer of 1999, and the damages from the relatively minor actions total no
more than $8700.

From May through Sept. 1999 the Animal Liberation Front took credit for four
actions against hunting clubs and one action against a Food and Drug
Administration building in Maine. The actions essentially boil down to break
and enter, spray painted walls, broken windows and doors, and stolen stuffed
animal heads, which were returned to their natural environment to rest in
peace according to the Communique received by the Press Office.

Chronology

In July 1999 I took over the ALF Press Office and became the North American
spokesperson. The actions in Maine were some of the first I worked on in my
new role, giving interviews to Maine media outlets in Sept. 1999.

Four months later on Jan. 23, 2000 Kennebec County Sheriff Everett Flannery
made a request for a search to be conducted against my home. On Oct. 11,
2000
and on May 14, 2001 supplemental requests for a search were made by U.S.
authorities to the Canadian Minister of Justice.

Almost one year later, on May 07, 2002, the Canadian Justice Minister
approved
the request, and two and a half months after that on June 25 RCMP Cpl.
Derrick
Ross swore out an Information to Obtain a Search Warrant which was approved
and signed by Associate Chief Justice Patrick Dohm of the BC Supreme Court.

(Dohm was recently in the news regarding another search warrant he signed
against a former Premier of British Columbia. In that instance, RCMP
officers
traveled to California where Dohm was vacationing at the time to obtain his
signature for the warrant, apparently wanting to ensure they got the warrant
signed. Dohm is known for being extremely conservative; perhaps another
Justice might have refused their request.)

(Perhaps not-so-coincidentally, Dohm was also the Justice who authorized
wiretaps to be placed in my home and vehicle back in 1996 in regard to an
RCMP
investigation of mail bombs sent to fascists and razor-blade letters sent to
hunters. Charges of sending razor-blade letters to BC guide outfitters were
laid in 1998 but dropped in 2000 for lack of evidence and because the RCMP
did
not want to disclose critical information as ordered to by a judge.)

On July 30, 2002 the Search Warrant was executed by four INSET members and
five Vancouver Island based RCMP members.

It must be noted that I am neither charged nor under investigation for any
actions or crimes in either country.

I have no real interest in Barbarash at all, said Sheriff Flannery. (Comox
Valley Record, Aug. 09, 2002)

Information to Obtain

To secure a Search Warrant an officer must swear out an Information to
Obtain,
upon which a judge will make the determination if he/she will authorize a
search 

[CTRL] Fwd:Re: US NM: Tea Might be OK'd For Religious Practice

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I've never posted to the C-List before, having been a lurker for quite a
while. Could the post below please be forwarded, or if not, could I be told
how to go about getting it sent? I realize that it hardly qualifies as
on-topic but I feel that some misinformation is accidentally being
promulgated, and in the arena of the War on (Any) Drugs (That Free Your
Mind Instead of Enslaving It) that's a big, big, problem.

Thank you!

Begin forwarded message:

 I apologize for occupying so much traffic-space with what likely is of not
 too much interest to most of the list, but I find it hard to see
 information passed on which could conceivably be misleading.

 This (belowquoted) is not -quite- accurate. Ayahuasca can refer to a single
 plant (a vine known to botanists as Banisteriopsis Caapi, to many South
 Americans as yage) or to one of many, many different mixtures, often of
 yage and various plants containing dimethyltryptamine. Ayahuasca never
 refers to a snuff. The mixtures are usually boiled, and always eaten.
 Sometimes mixtures are made of plants un(genetically)related to yage (the
 vine) which contain indoles or other chemicals of interest, mostly
 tryptamines and various beta-carbolines (especially harmine and hamaline)
 .
 Some good information is available at:

 http://www.yage.net/ayahuasca/

 Those who enjoy the writings of the Beat authors may wish to find a copy
 of -The Yage Letters- (William S. Burroughs and Allen Ginsberg). -Vine of
 the Soul- (Richard Evans Schultes) (vine of the soul is one name for
 yage)
  is an excellent text by one of the great authorities in the field.

 The snuffs to which the belowquoted writer refers are usually (but hardly
 always) made from plants in the Virola genus (which contain methylated
 tryptamines and many other contents). They are often called epena but
 have many, many names. Jonathan Ott has recently written an very good book
 on this subject entitled -Shamanic Snuffs or Entheogenic Errhines-.

 Ayahuasca in any form is not a substance one takes for fun, in the least
 degree. It is a sacrament, in the opinion of almost everyone who has ever
 dared it. The experience is typically as terrifying, exhilarating,
 wrenching and life-altering as only a true and profound religious
 experience can be. (Yes, I speak from experience.)


 Date:Sun, 18 Aug 2002 19:58:17 -0700
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 Newshawk: The War on Drugs IS Terrorism
 Pubdate: Sun, 18 Aug 2002
 Source: Santa Fe New Mexican (NM)
 TEA MIGHT BE OK'D FOR RELIGIOUS PRACTICE

 A Santa Fe-based group might get permission to drink a hallucinogenic
 tea
 called hoasca.


 Ayahuasca - Thats the snuff that you may have seen S American Indians
 blowing up each others noses.

 Base plant for DMT.

 Yes, it's called hoasca in the southwest. Same thing.

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[CTRL] The Other Reparations Movement

2002-08-19 Thread M.A. Johnson

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~~for educational purposes only~~
[Title 17 U.S.C. section 107]

The Other Reparations Movement
by Thomas J. DiLorenzo

Jack Kershaw of Memphis, Tennessee, wants to
file a class-action lawsuit against the US
government for reparations. Not on behalf of
the descendants of slaves but on behalf of
Southerners of all races whose ancestors
were the victims of the US government's
rampage of pillaging, plundering, burning,
and raping of Southern civilians during the
War for Southern Independence.

In 1860 international law -- and the US
government's own military code -- prohibited
the intentional targeting of civilians in
war, although it was recognized that civilian
casualties are always inevitable. Foraging
to feed an army was acceptable, but compensation
was also called for. The kind of wanton looting
and destruction of private property that was
practiced by the Union army for the entire
duration of the war was forbidden, and
perpetrators were to be imprisoned or hanged.
This was all described in great detail in the
book, International Law, authored by San
Francisco attorney Henry Halleck, who was
appointed by Lincoln as general in chief of
the Union armies in July 1862.

International law, the US army's own military
code, and common rules of morality and decency
that existed at the time were abandoned by the
Union army from the very beginning. A special
kind of soldier was used to pillage and plunder
private property in the South during the war.
In The Hard Hand of War Mark Grimsley writes
that the federal Army of the Potomac possessed
its full quotient of thieves, freelance foragers,
and officers willing to look the other way, and
that as early as October 1861 General Louis
Blenker's division was already burning houses
and public buildings along its line of march
in Virginia. Prior to the Battle of First
Manassas in the early summer of 1861 the Army
of the Potomac was marked by robbing hen roosts,
killing hogs, slaughtering beef cattle, cows,
the burning of a house or two and the plundering
of others.

In Marching through Georgia Sherman biographer
Lee Kennett noted that Sherman's New York regiments
were filled with big city criminals and foreigners
fresh from the jails of the Old World.

Unable to subdue their enemy combatants, many Union
officers waged war on civilians instead, with
Lincoln's full knowledge and approval. Grimsley
describes how Union Colonel John Beatty warned the
residents of Paint Rock, Alabama, that Every time
the telegraph wire was cut we would burn a house;
every time a train was fired upon we would hang a
man; and we would continue to do this until every
house was burned and every man hanged between
Decatur and Bridgeport. Beatty ended up burning
the entire town of Paint Rock to the ground.

The Union army did not merely gather food for
itself; it pillaged, plundered, burned, and raped
its way through the South for four years. Grimsley
recounts a first hand account of the sacking of
Fredericksburg, Virginia, in December of 1862:

Great three-story houses furnished
magnificently were broken into and
their contents scattered over the
floors and trampled on by the muddy
feet of the soldiers. Splendid
alabaster vases and pieces of
statuary were thrown at 6 and 700
dollar mirrors. Closets of the very
finest china were broken into and
their contents smashed . . . rosewood
pianos piled in the street and
burned . . . Identical events occurred
in dozens of other Southern cities
and towns for four years.

Sherman was the plunder-in-chief, and he had three
solid years of practice for his March to the Sea.
In the autumn of 1862 Confederate snipers were
firing at Union gunboats on the Mississippi River.
Unable to apprehend the combatants, Sherman took
revenge on the civilian population by burning the
entire town of Randolph, Tennessee, to the ground.
In a July 31, 1862 letter to his wife Sherman
explained that his purpose in the war was
extermination, not of the soldiers alone, that
is the least part of the trouble, but the people.

In the spring of 1863, after the Confederate Army
had evacuated, Sherman ordered his army to destroy
the town of Jackson, Mississippi. They did, and in
a letter to General Ulysses S. Grant Sherman boasted
that The inhabitants [of Jackson] are subjugated.
They cry aloud for mercy. The land is devastated
for 30 miles around.

Meridian, Mississippi was also destroyed after the
Confederate Army had evacuated, after which Sherman
wrote to Grant: For five days, ten thousand of
our men worked hard and with a will, in that work
of destruction, with axes, sledges, crowbars,
clawbars, and with fire, and I have no hesitation
in pronouncing the work well done. Meridian . . . no
longer exists.

In Citizen Sherman Michael Fellman describes how
Sherman's chief engineer, Captain O.M. Poe, advised
that the bombing of Atlanta was of no military
significance (the Confederates had already abandoned
the city) and 

[CTRL] This Is 2002?

2002-08-19 Thread M.A. Johnson

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~~for educational purposes only~~
[Title 17 U.S.C. section 107]

This Is 2002?
by Bob Wallace

Sometimes I have a hard time believing it is the year 2002. It
just doesn't feel like it. I was at least expecting levitating
skateboards, like the one Michael J. Fox had in one of the
Back to the Future movies. Not that I would ride it. My
dog would like it, I'll bet. There are few things funnier than
seeing a pug grin. I'd even buy him a little helmet, like the
one moronic adults wear when they ride their bikes on a
busy city street.

Instead, what I see are janitors on strike where I work.
These are adults, in their 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s. They're making
$7.50 an hour. After taxes and deductions for their benefits,
there ain't much left. They certainly aren't going to be
buying skateboards, levitating or not. I saw one of the
elderly female janitors going into her apartment, located in
some not-so-hot public housing. Some of the cars on the
street were not only not levitating up and down, they
weren't going back and forth, not unless people pushed
them. It's a bit hard to keep a car running on $7.50 an hour,
even if it is an 250,000-mile ex-taxi that cost $200.

These janitors should be making $30,000 a year. My
grandfather, who was born in 1893, dropped out of school
in the 8th grade, yet was still able to raise nine kids and live
a middle-class existence. He installed and sanded wooden
floors. But in those days, taxes, inflation, regulations, and
the federal deficit were but a fraction of what they are now.
What he did is now impossible.

My father told me that when he was a kid, his father would
send him to the corner bar to bring back a big bucket of
beer for the workers to drink. My father was about ten. Let
a kid try that these days. And if you think that's bad, I saw
a 90-year-old man carded for a pack of cigars at a
Walgreens. How old do you think I am? he asked the
clerk. I don't know, she replied. I'll bet you couldn't find
your butt with both hands, he told her, and walked out.
That's when I found that trying to stifle laughter makes you
snort. She had a J-Lo I Only Need One Hand butt.
Speaking of butts, I'll bet mine is smarter than the entire
management of Walgreens.

When my grandfather was a kid, opiates were legal, so you
could buy Bayer heroin at the corner drugstore. But when
he was an adult, it was during Prohibition, so he was a
bootlegger. Too bad he didn't become filthy rich running
rum, like Joseph Kennedy. I wouldn't be driving a 2000
Chevy Cavilier. And I'd be in Congress, chasing Ted
Kennedy around, saying, Here, stupid drunken fat socialist
piggie.

All people understand that when they get a tax cut, their
salaries go up. Few understand that when businesses get a
tax cut, they use the money to give employees raises,
otherwise other businesses will use their newfound money
to hire them away. (I really shouldn't say all people.
Richard Gephardt, who is as lacking in brains as he is in
eyebrows, certainly doesn't understand it.)

Mean average wages haven't budged since about 1974,
which is when Nixon severed the dollar from gold (who
was advising him? His dog, Checkers?) In the 20th century,
the dollar lost 99% of its value through the government
inflating the money supply. Forty-five percent of that loss
has been since 1983, nine years after the Checkers-brained
Nixon allowed inflation to proceed with no brakes at all.

I believe if the unconstitutional Federal Reserve Bank hadn't
been created in 1913 (thereby allowing inflation), if the IRS
had never come into existence, if the federal deficit was a
single-digit fraction of what it is now, and if all these asinine
job-destroying regulations didn't exist, then those janitors
would be making $30,000 a year. Most people don't know
it, but half of what they make goes to taxes. Most of those
taxes are hidden. How many people know exactly how
much tax is hidden in the price of a gallon of gasoline?

Historically, people who have half of what they make taken
from them are called slaves.

I grew up on The Jetsons and the original Star Trek. (I
spent hours in front of the mirror, trying to raise my
eyebrow like Spock. And I succeeded. Even today, I can
raise my left eyebrow. But not my right.) As a little kid I
watched 2001: A Space Odyssey goggle-eyed. I halfway
expected 2001 to be like 2001. I expected Jetsons flying
cars and those little Star Trek saltshaker thingies that Bones
used to scan patients with (You need a heart transplant.
Plop. Okay, done.)

Today ain't even close to what I expected, and I blame it on
the State. (I won't blame it for my jumping off the barn roof
with a blanket as a parachute. At least I learned my lesson
by getting the wind knocked out of me. Seven years old,
and I was smarter than the feds. I only needed to make a
mistake once.)

In the past 3600 years there have been more than 14,000
wars. God knows where the human race would be if they
hadn't been fought. With space stations, and with colonies

[CTRL] today at psy-op

2002-08-19 Thread ulrich stuart
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Return of the Burning Times? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/psy-op/message/12256
Feds attempt take-over of California's Power http://groups.yahoo.com/group/psy-op/message/12257
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[CTRL] The Controller's Ultimate Motives

2002-08-19 Thread William Shannon
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The Controller's Ultimate Motives 
by Victor Thorn 

Here’s where we get into the nitty-gritty of the Controller’s ultimate motives. The elite very desperately need to create a work-force of unquestioning slaves to let them survive the coming cataclysm. Whether it be the arrival of a rogue planet or comet, worldwide viruses, full-scale nuclear war, or global warming to the point of burning us out, the Controllers (via access to cache’s of hidden knowledge) are fully aware that our days on this planet in our CURRENT FORM are numbered. Why do you think they’ve already built scores of underground bunkers all around the country (and world), and are rapidly constructing new one in places like Indiana? Is it because of a band of rag-tag terrorists from Afghanistan? Hardly. The Controllers know that when disaster strikes, the majority of us won’t survive. It’s happened before to the Mayans, Incas, and on Atlantis, so don’t write this scenario off as inconceivable. If it weren’t a direct possibility, why would the Controllers be building and updating their bunkers with such fervor? Hell, George Bush even ADMITTED to their SHADOW GOVERNMENT preparations in underground bases. Regrettably, once they’re inside of them and the doors are locked, guess who won’t have a set of keys to get in. Yup – you and me! 

Right now, plenty of people are getting themselves in an uproar about mind control, but those are only short-term worries. Sure, secret service agencies in a number of countries have experimented with mind control (and continue to do so), but when the final conspiracy plays out, there won’t be any minds left to control, or humans as we even know them! By mapping our genome/DNA to know what makes us tick, and also developing technology of mind-blowing proportions, a “Brave New World” is on the horizon; but it’s not one that would appeal to us in any way, shape, or form. 

This is scary shit, folks. Those of us in our 30’s and early 40’s probably won’t see it fully, but our kids and their kids (whatever that means) will. Think about a future where sexless machines … yes, sexless … why would the Controllers want us to be distracted with something as gratifying and mundane as sexual thought? Heck, think about how much time humans “squander” on being horny. The Controllers can’t have that, especially when we won’t even need sexual organs to replicate ourselves. We’ll be Machine People, and enjoyment, relaxation, or fornication aren’t elements of the equation. 

Someone may protest, “I’ll think about sex if I want to,” but in all honesty, you might not have a chance to. What do I mean? Well, picture it as follows. In the future, we’re all Artificial Intelligence creations with robotic-machine bodies and computer software minds. The Controllers, of course, at the helm of all this technology, will determine which entities get which software. How do they decide? Well, the answer probably lies in our current status. Ask yourself, if a cataclysmic world event occurred tomorrow, would the Controllers send you an invitation to scurry to their underground bunker to survive? If the answer is NO, then it’s a safe bet they won’t receive anything other than standard Artificial Intelligence slave software. And what does this entail? First of all, you’ll have a limited amount of accessible “memory.” A perfect metaphor would be modern-day home computers. If they have three gigabytes of memory and become full, nothing else will fit. The same reasoning applies to our future AI-software brains. The Controllers won’t want you to become distracted with thoughts revolving around sex, rebellion, creation, or errant daydreaming. Instead, you’ll be a worker, similar to drone bees in a hive. Thus, you’ll be programmed to attend work each day, where you’ll be plugged into or accessed by a Central Control Computer, or C3. At work, then, the C3 will “scan” you and make sure that only what’s supposed to be on your software is there … y’know, concepts like work, work, and more work. And since you only have a limited amount of accessible memory, nothing else will fit onto your software. 

Even more advanced, author Richard Dolan tells us about a procedure known as “Mindscan” where an “entity probes the person’s mind telepathically and ‘sees’ their innermost thoughts. This might be interpreted as tremendous psychic power possessed by the entity; but such a thing could easily be done by implants within the alien beings brain.” Not quite convinced? Well, check this out. Right now, chimpanzees can navigate a computer cursor across a monitor by simply using their mind (after, of course, their brain had been implanted with a microchip)! 

This madness is occurring RIGHT NOW, and is barreling forward with frightening speed each day. What if a maniacal regime like the Chinese – those with 

[CTRL] Terror on the Web, with an olive branch

2002-08-19 Thread Tenorlove

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 Terror on the Web, with an olive branch

 By Shahar Smooha

 At first glance, the official Web site of the ELN, an
 underground group in Colombia, looks like it's owned and
 operated by a respectable think tank.  At second glance, as
 well.
 Unthreatening links to the peace process, human rights,
 ideas and debate and drugs and corruption lead to pages
 with well-written essays that analyze the crimes of the
 Colombia government against its citizenry.

 There are illustrations reminiscent of Amnesty
 International's, pictures of children and drawings of a
 peace dove with an olive branch in its beak.  Nowhere does
 the site mention the hundreds of people the ELN kidnaps
 every year, using the ransoms to pay for its activities.
 There's no mention of the judges, politicians, businessmen
 and many other civilians who have been killed by the ELN
 since their uprising against the government began in 1964.

 The Web site run by the Tamili Tigers, who are fighting for
 Tamili independence in Sri Lanka, complains about harm done
 to Tamili women.  There's no mention of terror, including
 suicide bombers, assassinations, and massacres.  And when
 there is mention of the organization's violent operations,
 it's always in the context of anti-government actions and
 against military targets.

 The Turkey's Revolutionary People's Liberation Front, a
 Marxist group operating since 1978 against government and
 American targets in the country, carries a letter on its Web
 site directed to the European Union.  The letter refers to
 the EU's decision not to include it and the PKK on a
 terrorist list as proof that the real terrorist element in
 the country is the Ankara government.

 The sober reality presented to Net travelers by the ELN and
 other groups is not unusual.  It is an accurate reflection
 of the main thesis of a three-year-old study by Prof.  Gabi
 Weiman and Dr.  Yariv Tzfati from the University of Haifa's
 Communications Department.  The study was updated in January
 2002, following September 11.  The researchers, who sum up
 their findings in an article to appear in an upcoming issue
 of Rand, the American think tank's journal, decided to
 examine the Web-based rhetoric of terror groups and found
 that almost all the groups either hide their violent
 activity or make no mention of it.

 The reason, they believe, is that the terrorist groups
 perceive the general Western public, but particularly
 Internet users, as educated and liberal.  So, they emphasize
 those subjects that Western democracies would find
 sympathetic.  Government actions against terrorism, like
 harming freedom of speech, arrests without trials, and
 torture, contradict the basic values of Western democracies,
 and are emphasized at the sites.  From the PKK to the ETA,
 the Tamili Tigers to the Shining Path, the Web sites are
 devised to embarrass their government enemies, and on the
 Internet, a liberal means of communication that is both
 chaotic and decentralized, the tactic works beautifully.

 Anti-Microsoft The similarity between the terrorist
 rhetoric on the Internet and other media is the wealth of
 propaganda techniques, transferring the guilt to the other
 side and justifying the use of violence, says Weiman.  The
 difference is that terrorist rhetoric on the Net is much
 more pacifist and liberal, and uses terms that we found more
 on the Internet than elsewhere.

 Weiman says that the terrorists assume that the Net carries
 its own non-violent message of freedom of speech, liberty,
 open globalization, and certainly not violence, so they
 adapt themselves to the nature of the medium and the
 audience.

 A good example that Weiman and Tzfati point to is the Web
 site run by the Zapatistas, the Mexican underground fighting
 for Chiapis independence against the federal government.
 Their site promises that it was designed to be viewed
 properly with Mozilla, Opera, and Linux browsers -
 alternative Web browser's to Microsoft's, and therefore a
 dig at the corporate giant, and by implication, announcing
 to the site visitor that this is an anti-capitalist,
 anti-corporate site.  It's not atypical of alternative Web
 sites trying to reach millions of Web travelers who are fed
 up with Microsoft's domination of the PC.  Visitors to the
 site will therefore identify with the campaign against
 globalization and especially the Nafta agreement between the
 North American countries.

 But the Zapatista perception of the global village is not
 limited to technical affairs like which browser to use.  The
 organization pushes issues like freedom of speech, human
 rights, social justice, and opposition to corporate
 globalization, no less than it emphasizes the messages of
 its charismatic leader SubCommandante Marcos, who already in
 the mid-1990s was using a laptop, modem and e-mail to send
 his message to supporters worldwide.  Two years ago, at his
 prompting, hundreds of hackers conducted digital warfare on
 the 

[CTRL] Umberto Eco: The poisonous Protocols

2002-08-19 Thread Tenorlove

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 The poisonous Protocols

 Umberto Eco on the distinction between intellectual anti-semitism and
 its
 popular counterpart

 http://books.guardian.co.uk/review/story/0,12084,775668,00.html

 The poisonous Protocols

 Umberto Eco on the distinction between intellectual anti-semitism
 and its popular counterpart

 Saturday August 17, 2002

 The Guardian

 Amid the controversy following the desecration of Jewish graves
 in Rome last month, some words of Pier Ferdinando Casini,
 speaker of Italy's chamber of deputies, have been remembered.
 He claimed that anti-semitism is less rooted in Italy than in
 other countries.  It is my belief that a distinction must be
 made between intellectual anti-semitism and popular anti-semitism.
 Popular anti-semitism is as old as the Jewish diaspora.  It
 arose from an instinctive reaction of the common people to
 different people, who spoke an unknown language evocative of
 magic rites.  A people steeped in the culture of the book,
 the Jews learned to read and write.  They practised medicine,
 engaged in trade, and lent money - hence the resentment towards
 them as intellectuals.  Such were the roots of peasant
 anti-semitism in Russia.

 Certainly the Christian condemnation of the people who killed
 God carried weight, but ultimately there was a (private)
 relationship of shared interest and mutual respect between
 Christian and Jewish intellectuals throughout the middle ages,
 not to mention the renaissance.  The desperate hordes who
 followed the crusades and laid waste the ghettoes by fire
 and the sword were not inspired by doctrine, but controlled
 by the urge to pillage.

 Intellectual anti-semitism as we now know it originates from
 the modern world.  In 1797, Abbé Barruel wrote his Mémoires
 pour servir à l'histoire du jacobinisme to show that the
 French revolution was a plot of the Knights Templar and the
 freemasons.  Later it was an Italian, Captain Simonini, who
 suggested to him that it was above all the perfidious Jews
 who were acting behind the scenes.

 It was only after this point that the argument surrounding
 international Jewry began, and the Jesuits seized on it as
 an argument against the sects of the Carbonari.  The
 controversy raged throughout Europe, but found its most
 fertile soil in France, where Jewish finance was now
 identified as an enemy to defeat.  The controversy was
 certainly fuelled by Catholic legitimism, but it was in
 secular, political circles that the ill-famed Protocols
 of the Learned Elders of Zion slowly took shape.  These
 were then published in Russian Tsarist circles and were
 finally used by Hitler.

 The Protocols were a rehash of serialised fictional material,
 and prove their own unreliability, since it is hardly credible
 that the baddies would reveal their fell purposes so blatantly.
 The Elders even declare that they intend to encourage sport
 and visual communication to dupe the working class (a passage
 more reminiscent of Berlusconism than Judaism).  Nevertheless,
 though rough and ready, this was intellectual anti-semitism.
 Conceding to Deputy Casini, it can be said that Italian popular
 anti-semitism has been less strong than in other European
 countries (for various social, historical and even demographic
 reasons).  Indeed, ordinary folk ended up opposing racial
 persecutions by helping the Jews.  But in Italy, Jesuitical
 anti-semitic doctrine flourished (the novels of Father
 Bresciani are but one example).  This merged with the
 bourgeois anti-semitism which ultimately produced the
 notorious academics and writers who contributed to the
 infamous journal La difesa della razza [The Defence of the
 Race] and the version of the Protocols published by Julius
 Evola in 1937.

 Evola wrote that the Protocols had the value of a spiritual
 tonic.  He added: Above all, in these decisive hours of
 western history, they cannot be ignored or dismissed without
 seriously undermining the front of those fighting in the name
 of the spirit, of tradition, of true civilisation.

 International Jewry, he claimed, lay behind the main sources
 of the perversion of western civilisation:

 Liberalism, individualism, egalitarianism, free thinking,
 anti-religious enlightenment and their various appendages
 which lead to the revolt of the masses and to communism
 itself. For the Jew it was a duty to destroy every
 surviving trace of true order and superior civilisation...
 One Jew is Freud, whose theory is understood to reduce the
 interior life to instincts and unconscious forces.  Another
 is Einstein, who has brought 'relativism' into vogue...
 Schoenberg and Mahler, leading exponents of the music of
 decadence.  Tzara is a Jew, the creator of dadaism, the
 extreme limit of degradation of so-called avant garde art...
 It is the race, it is an instinct at work here...  Now is
 the time when the forces are rising up everywhere, because
 now the face of the destiny to which Europe was about to
 succumb is 

[CTRL] Abu Nidal is dead

2002-08-19 Thread Tenorlove

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 http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/meast/08/19/iraq.nidal.reut/index.html

 Abu Nidal 'dead in Iraq' - report
 August 19, 2002 Posted: 6:37 AM EDT (1037 GMT)

 RAMALLAH, West Bank (Reuters) -- Abu Nidal, a
 Palestinian guerrilla leader and long-time enemy of
 Palestinian President Yasser Arafat, was found dead from gunshot
 wounds in his Baghdad home, senior Palestinian sources said on
 Monday.

 Abu Nidal, 65, had a reputation as one of the most ruthless
 Palestinian guerrilla commanders. The Palestinian sources
 confirmed a report in the Palestinian Al-Ayyam newspaper which
 said on Monday Abu Nidal's death was apparently a suicide and
 occurred three days ago. The militant leader, Sabri al-Bana, was
 widely known by his nom de guerre Abu Nidal as the head of the
 Fatah-The Revolutionary Council group that broke with the
 Palestine Liberation Organization in 1974, saying it was too
 moderate. His group was considered responsible for dozens of
 attacks in 20 countries against Middle Eastern, European and
 U.S. targets which killed hundreds of people, including PLO
 officials. He was sentenced to death in absentia by a Fatah
 military court. In 1982, his group tried to assassinate Israel's
 ambassador to Britain, setting off Israel's invasion of Lebanon
 to root out Palestinian guerrilla groups.
 Copyright 2002 Reuters. All rights reserved.

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[CTRL] The Invisible Enemy

2002-08-19 Thread William Shannon
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The Invisible Enemy 
August 19, 2002
>From BabelMagazine.com
by: Mike Bellinger

"A nation can survive its fools and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banners openly against the city. But the traitor within the gates freely, his sly whispers rustling through the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears no traitor; he speaks in the accents familiar to his victim, and he wears their face and their garments and he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation; he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city; he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to be feared. The traitor is the plague." 

Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 AD - 43 AD) - reading the danger of internal subversion in a speech to the Roman Senate, as recorded by Sallust 

We are living in a time of great danger to our safety and our freedoms. All around us are the warning signs of impending doom. Many of these warnings are out in the open and seem to be insurmountable: global warming, nuclear war, terrorism, famine, drugs, illiteracy, economic depression, religious fanaticism, intolerance, etc. 

We are now being told that Globalism is the answer. Global trade, global cooperation, a global war on terrorism, a global outlook overall and that our "petty" problems of unemployment and financial ruin are of small consequence in the overall scheme of things. After all, the Third World is in agony and despair, so how can us greedy Americans, Canadians and Europeans dare complain about our low-wage service-based jobs and lack of financial advancement when others have to worry about even finding a crust of bread to eat? I will answer that question by the end of this report. 

Everywhere you look in the mainstream (i.e. elite-controlled) media, the news stories and documentaries are being dragged out and run over and over again ... Globalism ... "the global marketplace" ... are we ready for the realities of global cooperation? ... We have to help our global trade partners ... and of course, "global trade" is the answer to all our woes. More on the deceitful trade aspect a little further on. 

The question is: do we really need a global war on terrorism? Did we really need a War on Poverty, or the War on Drugs? What did these "wars" accomplish? Nothing! They were never meant to. In fact, they were used to exacerbate these very problems. These "wars" had a hidden purpose. Their real purpose was to create bureaucracies, appropriate money, empower and enrich the elite who headed the agencies, perpetuate the problem and expand the socialization powers of government while assuming control over the very issues they were supposed to be remedying. Look at the United States' Food Stamp program implemented by President John F. Kennedy as a temporary measure to alleviate poverty in low income American families. Has it solved any part of the problem of poverty? Has it gone away? Of course not. It wasn't meant to. It is now another vast bureaucracy in the ever expanding, ever more socialistic U.S. Government. 

The War on Terrorism is no different. The Invisible Enemy has created terror from the beginning. It has a purpose. The goal is to create an emergency situation that will allow Police State control measures to be agreed upon by the inhabitants of a country the terror occurs in. It really is that simple. Look around you and you will see it. 

The Invisible Enemy is a socialist and fascist and wants the world herded in that direction. He will use any means necessary to achieve that end. Massacres, assassinations, terrorism and war are his instruments of choice. Fear is the most effective and best-known method of assuming control over a population, and the people will beg for government imposed "order" to save them from the terror ... (or whatever instrument is being used at the moment). 

So, who is the Invisible Enemy? They are your political leaders, your business leaders, your military leaders and media moguls, your clergymen and your bankers. They have a shared hidden agenda. They want complete, global control of this planet. They belong to an elite group of international Secret Societies who have been manipulating nations and peoples around the world since the Middle Ages (and before). If you think this sounds absurd, I can prove it to you. Go to the Internet or to your local library and look up a group known as the Bilderbergs, or "policy groups" known as the Council on Foreign Relations, and its British version, the Royal Institute of International Affairs. These semi-secret and super-secret groups include among their membership and attendees William Jefferson Clinton, Henry Kissinger, Tony Blair, Margaret Thatcher, Mikhail Gorbachev, Colin 

[CTRL] Al Martin: Bushonomics Close Encounters with the Neighborhood Watch

2002-08-19 Thread William Shannon
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http://www.almartinraw.com/column68.html



Bushonomics  Close Encounters with the Neighborhood Watch
by Al Martin

(August 19) Bush's so-called conference on revitalizing the economy was held in Waco, Texas of all places. (You knew that had to be auspicious). It was full of Republican shills who immediately took control of the entire thing. This was billed as an "economic forum of the people," in which the people could give their opinions on what the Bush Administration is doing wrong. Brokerage firm owner Muriel Siebert said that we should take the next five years period and allow people to double the amount of money they can put in their 401(k)'s and IRA's in order to make up for losses that people have sustained over the last eighteen months. Of course, she was very careful to make sure that the eighteen months didn't coincide, in anyone's mind, with Bush's tenure.

 They didn't show the audience, and they purposely didn't pan the camera over the audience (I think they're going to do this from now on). After Muriel Siebert said that, Bush said he thought that was a good idea, and some guy yells out from the audience, "But, Mr. President, the people don't have any money left. All your Republican pals stole it all."

 Then they went to a break. They took the camera off the president and showed a bunch of people standing and a few seconds later they panned the audience and in the front row, there was a person missing. Evidently the guy had been hauled out, but they didn't want to show it on camera.

 According to a New York Times article, a recent poll indicates that Vice President Cheney has become a net liability to the Bush Administration. There are the Halliburton scams and people relate Harken, Bush's scam, and Halliburton because they're both oil, and it's the whole concept of how Republicans and Big Oil Money are linked together. So Cheney has become a liability.

 If the Republicans do poorly come November, I would say that Cheney might be eased out. Most likely they'll make him some kind of scapegoat for the Republican failure.

 Then Bush made another interesting faux pas. The panel was talking about the acceleration of tax cuts for the rich and Steve Forbes said that he was tired of hearing this and that it's just Democratic propaganda. He was referring to all the times you hear on the news that the tax cuts are for the "rich" or the "Republican rich." But he planted that in everyone's mind. Then Bush said that he thinks we should "accelerate tax cuts for the rich." After he realized what he said, he added, "I didn't mean to say that. I meant for the people."

 He then said that it's just Democratic propaganda, despite the fact that the GAO has reported that 48% of Bushonian tax cuts go to those making more than $250,000 a year. And of those people who make $250,000 a year or more, 70% of them are Republican.

 The Bush Administration recently confirmed what AlMartinRaw. Com had been warning people since the beginning -- from the day Bush was elected -- that the Bush Administration will begin dipping into Social Security funds again the way his father George Bush I did. In other words, they will use BFLAP (Bush Fantasy Land Accounting Principles) to start to count Social Security contributions as general revenue. The Reagan-Bush Regime did exactly the same thing during the 1980s and early 1990s. They managed to suck $3 trillion out of Social Security. Now the Bush II Administration will do it again. But they actually came out and said in the statement that they wouldn't start doing it - until after the November elections because they didn't want to give the Democrats another campaign issue. They are so confident of their own power that they would actually say something like that.

 It has been reported that the total market decline has made $7 trillion worth of wealth vanish since the spring of 2000. The market began to soften in late 1999 when the high tech stocks begin to burst. Then the speculative balloon began to leak air in earnest in the spring of 2000. Since the day George Bush was elected, $5 trillion in equity has been lost. Then when you add another $2 trillion lost eleven months prior to the election, you have a total of $7 trillion.

 People hate to hear the truth, but a lot of this can be blamed on George Bush and Bushonian economics, which certainly abetted and accelerated the decline. Even before Bush got into office, people knew what Bushonian economics meant - the creation of federal budget deficits, an increase in the national debt, tax cuts for the rich, this self-feeding process.

 What's different about Bush Administrations is that the market will react to a Bush Administration from the very day that they're elected. You don't have to wait until they're inaugurated. Remember he doesn't put economic policy in place until April or May. This is six or seven months after he is elected before he is able to change any economic policy at all, but the market 

[CTRL] THOUGHT POLICE ON STEROIDS - BRAIN FINGERPRINTING

2002-08-19 Thread William Shannon
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http://www.etherzone.com/2002/blow082602.shtml



THOUGHT POLICE ON STEROIDS
BRAIN FINGERPRINTING

By: Joe Blow

Orwell’s vision of 1984 inches closer to realization every day, yet how many people are even paying attention to Big Brother? The headlines alone should convince most citizens that the trend is negative and invasive, despite the rhetoric coming from the feds.

Apparently, it isn’t enough that some airlines are using low level x-ray machines that enable newly hired federal "security" screeners to see through the clothing of passengers and fully expose their naked images on screen. Now NASA is planning to read the minds of terrorists at airports by using space technology to monitor their brain-wave patterns.


Frank J. Murray writes, "Officials of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration have told Northwest Airlines security specialists that the agency is developing brain-monitoring devices in cooperation with a commercial firm, which it did not identify. Space technology would be adapted to receive and analyze brain-wave and heartbeat patterns, then feed that data into computerized programs "to detect passengers who potentially might pose a threat,"…NASA wants to use "noninvasive neuro-electric sensors," imbedded in gates, to collect tiny electric signals that all brains and hearts transmit. Computers would apply statistical algorithms to correlate physiologic patterns with computerized data on travel routines, criminal background and credit information from "hundreds to thousands of data sources," NASA documents say."

The federal government is again searching for a technological fix. It will spend millions of dollars on research and testing, purchase some new Buck Rogers black boxes, and presto! there you have it, airport security at its finest. At least that’s what the press release will say. My guess is that the reality will be much different.

We already know that the newest, very expensive weapon screening systems don’t work, yet they are still being manufactured, purchased, and installed. It’s all a show. It’s all about maintaining the illusion of safety and security, without getting your hands dirty. Don’t forget: this mind reading system will be run by the same people who are currently confiscating 2" plastic G.I. Joe toy guns because they are "replicas" as defined by the TSA. I’m convinced that this acronym actually stands for "Too Stupid Already."

"NASA aerospace research manager Herb Schlickenmaier told The Times the test proposal to Northwest Airlines is one of four airline-security projects the agency is developing…He likened the proposal to a super lie detector that would also measure pulse rate, body temperature, eye-flicker rate and other biometric aspects sensed remotely. Though adding mind reading to screening remains theoretical, Mr. Schlickenmaier says, he confirms that NASA has a goal of measuring brain waves and heartbeat rates of airline passengers as they pass screening machines."

At this point some readers may raise the question of a warrantless search, but the feds have already got that legal angle covered.

"Last year, the Supreme Court ruled unconstitutional police efforts to use noninvasive "sense-enhancing technology" that is not in general public use in order to collect data otherwise unobtainable without a warrant. However, the high court consistently exempts airports and border posts from most Fourth Amendment restrictions on searches."

"We're getting closer to reading minds than you might suppose," says Robert Park, a physics professor at the University of Maryland and spokesman for the American Physical Society. "It does make me uncomfortable. That's the limit of privacy invasion. You can't go further than that. We're close to the point where they can tell to an extent what you're thinking about by which part of the brain is activated, which is close to reading your mind. It would be terribly complicated to try to build a device that would read your mind as you walk by." The idea is plausible, he says, but frightening."

That’s all you need to know. If it is plausible, you can expect that it will become a reality, whether or not it actually works, because the "need" exists, the proposal is already underway, and unlike privately funded projects, the feds have no spending limit.

The concept isn’t exactly new. Lawrence Farwell, a neuroscientist from Iowa, co-published a "Brain Fingerprinting" article in the Journal of Psychophysiology in 1991. Julia Scheeres also wrote a piece about it ("Thought Police Peek into Brains") for wired.com in October 2001.

The disturbing portion of her article comes from one of Farwell’s detractors, his former professor and mentor at the University of Illinois, Emanuel Donchin. "We made it very clear in that paper that ours is just a lab demonstration of the feasibility of the approach and that considerable research is necessary before this can be used in an applied setting as 

[CTRL] Planes of 911 Exceeded Their Software Limits

2002-08-19 Thread William Shannon
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http://www.friendsofliberty.com/



Planes of 911 Exceeded Their Software Limits

 
Submitted by: Anonymous "by Jim Heikkila
Saturday August 17, 2002 

Two of the aircraft exceeded their software limits on 9/11.


The Boeing 757 and 767 are equipped with fully autonomous flight capability, they are the only two Boeing commuter aircraft capable of fully autonomous flight. They can be programmed to take off, fly to a destination and land, completely without a pilot at the controls. 

They are intelligent planes, and have software limits pre set so that pilot error cannot cause passenger injury. Though they are physically capable of high g maneuvers, the software in their flight control systems prevents high g maneuvers from being performed via the cockpit controls. They are limited to approximately 1.5 g's, I repeat, one and one half g's. This is so that a pilot mistake cannot end up breaking grandma's neck. 

No matter what the pilot wants, he cannot override this feature. 

The plane that hit the Pentagon approached or reached its actual physical limits, military personnel have calculated that the Pentagon plane pulled between five and seven g's in its final turn. 

The same is true for the second aircraft to impact the WTC. 

There is only one way this can happen. 

As well as fully autonomous flight capability, the 767 and 757 are the ONLY COMMUTER PLANES MADE BY BOEING THAT CAN BE FLOWN VIA REMOTE CONTROL. It is a feature that is standard to all of them, all 757's and 767's can do it. The purpose for this is if there is a problem with the pilots, Norad can fly the planes to safe destinations via remote. Only in this flight mode can those craft exceed their software limits and perform to their actual physical limits because a pre existing emergency situation is assumed if this mode of flight is used. 

Terrorists in fact did not fly those planes, it is totally and completely impossible for those planes to have been flown in such a manner from the cockpit. Those are commuter aircraft, not F-16's and their software knows it. 

Another piece of critical evidence: the voice recorders came up blank. 

The flight recorders that were recovered had tape that was undamaged inside, but it was blank. There is only one way this can happen on a 757 or 767. When the aircraft are commandeered via remote control, the microphones that go to the cockpit voice recorder are re routed to the people doing the remote controlling, so that the recording of what happened in the cockpit gets made in a presumably safer place. But due to a glitch in the system on a 757/767, rather than shutting off when the mic is redirected the voice recorder keeps running. The voice recorders use what is called a continuous loop tape, which automatically re passes itself past the erase and record heads once every half hour, so after a half hour of running with the microphones redirected, the tape will be blank. Just like the recovered tapes were. Yet more proof that no pilot flew those planes in the last half hour. 

Eight of the hijackers who were on those planes called up complaining that they were still alive. I'd bet you never heard about our foreign minister flying to Morocco and issuing an official apology to the accused, did you? No, terrorists did not fly those planes, plastic knives and box cutters were in fact too ridiculous to be true. Any of the remaining accused have certainly been sought out and killed by now. 

Our information IS controlled 

The cell phone calls from the aircraft could not have happened. I am a National Security Agency trained Electronic Warfare specialist, and am qualified to say this. My official title: MOS33Q10, Electronic Warfare Intercept Strategic Signal Processing/Storage Systems Specialist, a highly skilled MOS which requires advanced knowledge of many communications methods and circuits to the most minute level. I am officially qualified to place severe doubt that ordinary cell phone calls were ever made from the aircraft. 

It was impossible for that to have happened, especially in a rural area for a number of reasons. 

When you make a cell phone call, the first thing that happens is that your cell phone needs to contact a transponder. Your cell phone has a max transmit power of five watts, three watts is actually the norm. If an aircraft is going five hundred miles an hour, your cell phone will not be able to 1. Contact a tower, 2. Tell the tower who you are, and who your provider is, 3. Tell the tower what mode it wants to communicate with, and 4. Establish that it is in a roaming area before it passes out of a five watt range. This procedure, called an electronic handshake, takes approximately 45 seconds for a cell phone to complete upon initial power up in a roaming area because neither the cell phone or cell transponder knows where that phone is and what mode it uses when it is turned on. At 500 miles an hour, the aircraft will travel three times the range of a cell phone's five 

[CTRL] Tesla, NASA Weather Control, and AI

2002-08-19 Thread ulrich stuart
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Tesla was also known for having developed ways to use "Scalar Electromagnetics". The use of which could be for "Good" purposes or "not so good" ones. One of the "Inventions" he had, he called the "Earthquake Machine". He claimed that with the "Press of a button", he could split the Earth in two. There are also variations of this, depending on the frequency used and the ocillating rate. A small tremor could be produced, or a huge catastrophe. http://www.freedomdomain.com/weather.html
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The study "Controlling the Global Weather" can be found at NASA's Institute for Advanced Concepts under "Funded Studies" in two parts, at these url's: http://peaches.niac.usra.edu/files/studies/abstract/589Hoffman.html and http://peaches.niac.usra.edu/files/studies/abstract/715Hoffman.html
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NASA's AI Programs http://www-aig.jpl.nasa.gov/
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The term artificial intelligence or AI denotes the concept of machines capable of intelligent thought. Since the beginning of the computer science field researchers have been working on developing machines capable of performing higher intellectual processes which are characteristically human. Such tasks include; the ability to reason, discover meaning, generalize, or learn from past experience. Within the AI field are a multitude of interwoven subfields which include: expert systems, genetic algorithms or evolutionary computation, image understanding, information navigation and retrieval, intelligent agents, intelligent assistance, knowledge sciences, logic, natural language recognition, neural networks, planning and scheduling, reasoning, robotics, and rule-based systems. http://library.gsfc.nasa.gov/SubjectGuides/ai.htm
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Long before the movie coming out next week, smart rovers such as Sojourner used artificial intelligence to traverse Mars in 1997. The rover had the decision-making capability to move around and decide a path for itself without the help of ground controllers. Artificial intelligence software on NASA's Deep Space 1 was tested in 1998, and in the fall of 2002, JPL will fly the latest AI software that will command the mission for a period of three months. http://sse.jpl.nasa.gov/whatsnew/pr/010621C.html
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1990: Aresearch program investigating the use of Artificial Intelligence (AI) techniques to aid in the development of a Tactical Decision Generator (TDG) for Within Visual Range (WVR) air combat engagements is discussed. The application of AI programming and problem solving methods in the development and implementation of the Computerized Logic For Air-to-Air Warfare Simulations (CLAWS), a second generation TDG, is presented. The Knowledge-Based Systems used by CLAWS to aid in the tactical decision-making process are outlined in detail, and the results of tests to evaluate the performance of CLAWS versus a baseline TDG developed in FORTRAN to run in real-time in the Langley Differential Maneuvering Simulator (DMS), are presented. To date, these test results have shown significant performance gains with respect to the TDG baseline in one-versus-one air combat engagements, and the AI-based TDG software has proven to be much easier to modify and maintain than the baseline FORTRAN TDG programs. Alternate computing environments and programming approaches, including the use of parallel algorithms and heterogeneous computer networks are discussed, and the design and performance of a prototype concurrent TDG system are presented. http://techreports.larc.nasa.gov/ltrs/90/aiaa-90-3435.refer.html
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1989: A research program investigating the use of Artificial Intelligence (AI) techniques to aid in the development of a Tactical Decision Generator (TDG) for Within-Visual-Range (WVR) air combat engagements is discussed. http://techreports.larc.nasa.gov/ltrs/89/aiaa-89-3525.refer.html
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Practically endless links on AI at NASA http://search.spacelink.nasa.gov/query.html?col=nasacol=spacelnkcharset=iso-8859-1ht=0qp=qt=artificial+intelligenceqs=qc=pw=100%25ws=0la=enqm=0st=1nh=10lk=1rf=0rq=0si=0
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Introduction to Universities Space Research Association http://www.usra.edu/about/history.htmlfrom which the following is snipped: "In March 1981. Dr. Paul J. Coleman, Jr. became the third president of USRA, and served until April 2000. Dr. Coleman received numerous awards and appointments during his time with USRA, including the NASA Exceptional Scientific Achievement Medal for his contributions to the exploration of the moon, and appointments to two positions at the Los Alamos National Laboratory: Director of the Earth and Space Sciences Division and Director of the Los Alamos branch of the Institute of Geophysics and Planetary Physics (IGPP). In 1984, President Reagan appointed Dr. Coleman to the National Commission on Space."
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Each institute or program of USRA is overseen by a Science Council that serves, in effect, as a scientific board of directors: for"Councils under the responsibility of 

[CTRL] More on Oregon Fire

2002-08-19 Thread ulrich stuart
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My earlier post, http://groups.yahoo.com/group/psy-op/message/12256refers to the types of communities that happen to live in the fire areas of Colorado, Arizona, and Oregon - a rather independent lot and we all know what thethe established powersthink of independence. I should have also mentioned that wild areas where "right"-thinking people live are NOT on fire and that the areas that ARE on fire are areas that are known to be home to a largely environmental populace. The below quote, taken from the article even further below, talks about the Kalmiopsis Wilderness, a place that has been at the center of environmental battles for many a year. It just happens to be on fire.
"The fire has burned over much of the Kalmiopsis Wilderness Area in the Siskiyou National Forest and into northwest California, and it is now threatening homes and businesses in Agness, Ilahe, Oak Flat, upper Pistol River, upper Chetco River, Cave Junction, O'Brien and Selma."
see also Arson and "Salvage" Logging
thefollowing is copied from http://www.missoulian.com/display/inn_news/news02.txt
Oregon fire zone residents in 'wait and see' mode




U.S. Forest Service firefighters Cody Gibney, left, and Kim Hunter, right, both from Prineville, Ore., mop up the Biscuit fire near Agness, Ore., on Sunday. The blaze has blackened more than 435,000 acres and is the largest in Oregon in a century. JOHN GRESS/Associated Press
By JOHN ENDERS Associated Press
Thousands working to gain ground on state's worst blaze in a century
AGNESS, Ore. - Things had calmed down a bit along Oak Flat and the nearby town of Agness, a resort and fishing village on southern Oregon's Rogue River. Homeowners, told to evacuate Thursday, were watching the glow of a massive wildfire burning nearby, hoping for the best.


Then the fire exploded.


Within an hour Saturday afternoon, the northwest flank of the fire blew up, raising huge billowing white and brown plumes of smoke 20,000 to 30,000 feet into the air. The "thwop, thwop, thwop" of heavy-lift helicopters filled the normally placid skies above the river.


People grew increasingly nervous by the hour.


"Normally, it's pretty stress-free living," said Gayle Soule, owner of the Old Agness Store.


"When you go to sleep at night and you hear helicopters, and fire trucks ..." Soule said, her voice trailing off.


These days, stress has filled the lives of those in the path of Oregon's Biscuit fire, the largest wildfire in the state in a century and the largest fire burning in North America.


By Sunday, 435,654 acres had burned and more than 6,500 people were fighting the blaze, including 470 Canadians, 39 Australians and nine fire managers from New Zealand. The fire was 35 percent contained.


Crews gained ground on the fire's northwestern flank Sunday as they finished burning a fire line around Agness. With good wind conditions holding, they were expected to next conduct burnouts along the fire's western side near Pistol River and Gardner Ranch, where residents were under a pre-evacuation notice, fire officials said.


The flames have been eating through the forests of southwest Oregon since July 13 when a lightning storm moved through the area. Officially, the blaze is known as the Biscuit Fire, but some residents have taken to calling it "the Beast."


The fire has burned over much of the Kalmiopsis Wilderness Area in the Siskiyou National Forest and into northwest California, and it is now threatening homes and businesses in Agness, Ilahe, Oak Flat, upper Pistol River, upper Chetco River, Cave Junction, O'Brien and Selma.


Sunday, it was one of about two dozen major active fires burning in the West. More than 5.7 million acres have burned this summer, and the states of New Mexico, Arizona, Colorado and Oregon have suffered their biggest wildfires on record, according to fire information officer Peter D'Aquanni.


He said predictions of slightly lower temperatures and higher humidity could keep the Biscuit fire from kicking up and help firefighters into the week.


Residents, meanwhile, waited to see if they would have to abandon their homes to the flames over the weekend. About a dozen helicopters buzzed in the air overhead, dumping fire retardant and water.


A half-mile up the road, 40-year old Shawn O'Connor raked and gathered pine needles and other burnable materials from the land around her home. She had been doing the same thing regularly for three weeks.


"Nobody in our neighborhood is leaving" O'Connor said. "We're just kind of waiting to see."


If the fire gets too close, O'Connor will grab her 13-year old son and a neighbor and head out.


She and her neighbors are watching the fire "in a state of controlled hysteria," she said. They also watch the wind, which had picked up but was blowing upstream, away from their houses. They wait. Sometimes wind is a friend; sometimes it's your worst adversary.


"When you feel the wind, you don't know whether to be glad or scared," O'Connor said.


[CTRL] Bombshell: Planes of 911 Exceeded Their Software Limits - More evidence of remote hijack !!!

2002-08-19 Thread ulrich stuart
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Terror: Planes of 911 Exceeded Their Software LimitsPosted by: VALIS on Aug 19, 2002 - 09:58 PM




 Two of the aircraft exceeded their software limits on 9/11. The Boeing 757 and 767 are equipped with fully autonomous flight capability, they are the only two Boeing commuter aircraft capable of fully autonomous flight. They can be programmed to take off, fly to a destination and land, completely without a pilot at the controls. They are intelligent planes, and have software limits pre set so that pilot error cannot cause passenger injury. Though they are physically capable of high g maneuvers, the software in their flight control systems prevents high g maneuvers from being performed via the cockpit controls. They are limited to approximately 1.5 g's, I repeat, one and one half g's. This is so that a pilot mistake cannot end up breaking grandma's neck. No matter what the pilot wants, he cannot override this feature. The plane that hit the Pentagon approached or reached its actual physical limits, military personnel have calculated that the Pentagon plane pulled between five and seven g's in its final turn. The same is true for the second aircraft to impact the WTC. There is only one way this can happen. As well as fully autonomous flight capability, the 767 and 757 are the ONLY COMMUTER PLANES MADE BY BOEING THAT CAN BE FLOWN VIA REMOTE CONTROL. It is a feature that is standard to all of them, all 757's and 767's can do it. The purpose for this is if there is a problem with the pilots, Norad can fly the planes to safe destinations via remote. Only in this flight mode can those craft exceed their software limits and perform to their actual physical limits because a pre existing emergency situation is assumed if this mode of flight is used. Terrorists in fact did not fly those planes, it is totally and completely impossible for those planes to have been flown in such a manner from the cockpit. Those are commuter aircraft, not F-16's and their software knows it. Another piece of critical evidence: the voice recorders came up blank. The flight recorders that were recovered had tape that was undamaged inside, but it was blank. There is only one way this can happen on a 757 or 767. When the aircraft are commandeered via remote control, the microphones that go to the cockpit voice recorder are re routed to the people doing the remote controlling, so that the recording of what happened in the cockpit gets made in a presumably safer place. But due to a glitch in the system on a 757/767, rather than shutting off when the mic is redirected the voice recorder keeps running. The voice recorders use what is called a continuous loop tape, which automatically re passes itself past the erase and record heads once every half hour, so after a half hour of running with the microphones redirected, the tape will be blank. Just like the recovered tapes were. Yet more proof that no pilot flew those planes in the last half hour. Eight of the hijackers who were on those planes called up complaining that they were still alive. I'd bet you never heard about our foreign minister flying to Morocco and issuing an official apology to the accused, did you? No, terrorists did not fly those planes, plastic knives and box cutters were in fact too ridiculous to be true. Any of the remaining accused have certainly been sought out and killed by now. Our information IS controlled The cell phone calls from the aircraft could not have happened. I am a National Security Agency trained Electronic Warfare specialist, and am qualified to say this. My official title: MOS33Q10, Electronic Warfare Intercept Strategic Signal Processing/Storage Systems Specialist, a highly skilled MOS which requires advanced knowledge of many communications methods and circuits to the most minute level. I am officially qualified to place severe doubt that ordinary cell phone calls were ever made from the aircraft. It was impossible for that to have happened, especially in a rural area for a number of reasons. When you make a cell phone call, the first thing that happens is that your cell phone needs to contact a transponder. Your cell phone has a max transmit power of five watts, three watts is actually the norm. If an aircraft is going five hundred miles an hour, your cell phone will not be able to 1. Contact a tower, 2. Tell the tower who you are, and who your provider is, 3. Tell the tower what mode it wants to communicate with, and 4. Establish that it is in a roaming area before it passes out of a five watt range. This procedure, called an electronic handshake, takes approximately 45 seconds for a cell phone to complete upon initial power up in a roaming area because neither the cell phone or cell transponder knows where that phone is and what mode it uses when it is turned on. At 500 miles an hour, the aircraft will travel three times the range of a cell phone's five watt transmitter before this handshaking can occur. Though it is sometimes 

[CTRL] Mahony withheld info, Olson, Trauma Memory, abuse - New Zealand, Taliban

2002-08-19 Thread Smart News

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this may be heavy for survivors

Archdiocese for Years Kept Claims of Abuse From Police - 8/18/02 -  Church
also let accused priests flee, say documents, interviews. But Mahony has been
relatively aggressive in dismissing clergy. By Glenn F. Bunting, Ralph
Frammolino and Richard Winton, Times Staff Writers Faced with allegations
that parish priests had sexually abused minors, the Los Angeles Archdiocese
under Cardinal Roger M. Mahony for many years withheld information from
police and allowed clerics facing prosecution to flee to foreign countries,
internal records and interviews show. At the same time, Mahony has been more
aggressive than many U.S. bishops in dismissing members of the clergy.
www.latimes.com

Global Eye - The Past Is Prologue By Chris Floyd 8/16/02 In the summer of
1953, a few months before his death, Frank Olson made several trips to Europe
to investigate secret U.S.-British research centers in Germany. There he
found the CIA was testing truth serums and other torture drugs on
expendables, including captured Russian agents. He told a British colleague
that he had witnessed horrors thereHis British colleague told his own
superiors about Olson's concerns; they in turn informed the CIA that Olson
was now a security risk. Not long after his return, Olson was given the
LSD. Then he was flown to New York, ostensibly for psychiatric treatment, at
the hands of a CIA doctor -- who prescribed whiskey and pills. Then he was
taken to a CIA magician -- yes, a magician -- who apparently tried to
hypnotize him for interrogation. Finally he checked into a cheap hotel --
with a CIA handler in tow. Olson called his wife, told her he was feeling
better and would be home the next day. But that night, he was found dead on
the street, 10 floors below. The handler said that Olson had apparently
thrown himself through the closed window in a suicidal fit. And so the first
coverup began: 22 years, until the 1975 meeting with Ford.
http://www.moscowtimes.ru/stories/2002/08/16/120.html

Trauma and Memory - Research Research has shown that traumatized individuals
respond by using a variety of psychological mechanisms. One of the most
common means of dealing with the pain is to try and push it out of awareness.
Some label the phenomenon of the process whereby the mind avoids conscious
acknowledgment of traumatic experiences as dissociative amnesiathere is
near-universal scientific acceptance of the fact that the mind is capable of
avoiding conscious recall of traumatic experiencesSummary of the results
of scientific literature showing a high prevalence of full or partial
dissociative amnesia for traumatic events in traumatized populations. Studies
show that a period of either partial or full amnesia is reported by between
30 and 90% of adult victims of childhood sexual abuse. Moreover, no study
that has looked for evidence of traumatic or dissociative amnesia after child
sexual abuse has failed to find itResearch has shown that the content of
recovered memories are just as likely to be accurate as those of continuously
held memories of traumaResearch shows that children rarely fabricate
stories about being abused.
http://www.leadershipcouncil.org/Research/Trauma___Memory/trauma___memory.html

Abuse carries steep price by Chris Schultz Shirley Julich says 25 per cent
of girls and 9 per cent of boys are sexually abused in some way by the time
they reach 16She says the sexual abuse of children is costing New Zealand
$2.4 billion a year. The figure comes from adding together the cost of lost
earning, extra health bills and the unmet potential of adult survivors of
childhood sexual abuse. Dr Julich also found 8,600 children in New Zealand
are sexually abused for the FIRST time EVERY year. Her research shows only
7.5 per cent of adult victims ever report their abuse. She found an offender
averages 50 victims before being caught. Western Leader (New Zealand)
8/15/02

from L. Moss-Sharman
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A33677-2002Aug18.html
Report Says U.N. Urged Probe of Taliban Deaths
Associated Press Monday, August 19, 2002  ISLAMABAD, Pakistan, Aug. 18 -- A
confidential U.N. memorandum found evidence to justify a full-fledged
criminal investigation into the deaths in Afghanistan of hundreds of Taliban
prisoners held by the U.S.-backed Northern Alliance, Newsweek reported today.

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[CTRL] Fwd: Israel's grip on the news media in America

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  Israel-sponsored "non-governmental organizations" 
 manipulating the national media and Congress -- 
 succeed in influencing US foreign policy makers



US thinktanks give lessons in foreign policy 

The Guardian (UK)
Monday August 19, 2002 

A little-known fact about Richard Perle, the leading advocate of hardline policies at the Pentagon, is that he once wrote a political thriller. The book, appropriately called Hard Line, is set in the days of the cold war with the Soviet Union. Its hero is a male senior official at the Pentagon, working late into the night and battling almost single-handedly to rescue the US from liberal wimps at the state department who want to sign away America's nuclear deterrent in a disarmament deal with the Russians. 

Ten years on Mr Perle finds himself cast in the real-life role of his fictional hero - except that the Russians are no longer a threat, so he has to make do with the Iraqis, the Saudis and terrorism in general. 

In real life too, Mr Perle is not fighting his battle single-handed. Around him there is a cosy and cleverly-constructed network of Middle East "experts" who share his neo-conservative outlook and who pop up as talking heads on US television, in newspapers, books, testimonies to congressional committees, and at lunchtime gatherings in Washington. 

The network centres on research institutes - thinktanks that attempt to influence government policy and are funded by tax-deductible gifts from unidentified donors. 

When he is not too busy at the Pentagon, or too busy running Hollinger Digital - part of the group that publishes the Daily Telegraph in Britain - or at board meetings of the Jerusalem Post, Mr Perle is "resident fellow" at one of the thinktanks - the American Enterprise Institute (AEI). 

Mr Perle's close friend and political ally at AEI is David Wurmser, head of its Middle East studies department. Mr Perle helpfully wrote the introduction to Mr Wurmser's book, Tyranny's Ally: America's Failure to Defeat Saddam Hussein. 

Mr Wurmser's wife, Meyrav, is co-founder, along with Colonel Yigal Carmon, formerly of Israeli military intelligence - of the Middle East Media Research Institute (Memri), which specialises in translating and distributing articles that show Arabs in a bad light. 

She also holds strong views on leftwing Israeli intellectuals, whom she regards as a threat to Israel (see "Selective Memri", Guardian Unlimited, August 12, 2002). 

Ms Wurmser currently runs the Middle East section at another thinktank - the Hudson Institute, where Mr Perle recently joined the board of trustees. In addition, Ms Wurmser belongs to an organisation called the Middle East Forum. 

Michael Rubin, a specialist on Iran, Iraq and Afghanistan, who recently arrived from yet another thinktank, the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, assists Mr Perle and Mr Wurmser at AEI. Mr Rubin also belongs to the Middle East Forum. 
Another Middle East scholar at AEI is Laurie Mylroie, author of Saddam Hussein's Unfinished War Against America, which expounds a rather daft theory that Iraq was behind the 1993 World Trade Centre bombing. 

When the book was published by the AEI, Mr Perle hailed it as "splendid and wholly convincing". 
An earlier book on Iraq Saddam Hussein and the Crisis in the Gulf which Ms Mylroie co-authored with Judith Miller, a New York Times journalist, became the New York Times's No 1 bestseller. 

Ms Mylroie and Ms Miller both have connections with the Middle East Forum. Mr Perle, Mr Rubin, Ms Wurmser, Ms Mylroie and Ms Miller are all clients of Eleana Benador, a Peruvian-born linguist who acts as a sort of theatrical agent for 

[CTRL] Fwd: There Goes the Neighborhood, Part 67934 -- the Oceans

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30 PERCENT DROP IN WORLDS PLANKTON
--likely CLIMATE RELATED

Monday 19 Aug 2002 
CNN (via www.EconomicDemocracy.org)

Concentrations of microscopic plants that comprise the foundation of the ocean's food supply
have fallen during the past 20 years as much as 30 percent in northern oceans, according to a satellite checkup of planetary health

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The shrinking population of phytoplankton could be associated with regional or global climate changes, said scientists, who combed through data from numerous U.S. orbiting spacecraft.

The mini-water plants, which thrive on sunlight and nutrients, have dwindled particularly in places characterized by rising ocean surface temperatures and declining ocean winds.

The reason for the lower numbers could be that warming water layers on top prevent cooler and more nutrient-rich waters down below from reaching the surface-dwelling plankton, which are crucial to the survival of many ocean species, the scientists said.

"The whole marine food chain depends on the health and productivity of the phytoplankton," said researcher Watson Gregg of NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Maryland.

By measuring surface readings of chlorophyll concentrations, Gregg and colleague Margarita Conkright of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) determined that phytoplankton levels in the Northern Pacific Ocean dropped more than 30 percent since the 1980s.

The North Atlantic Ocean experienced a 14 percent decline in the same period.

"This is the first time that we are really talking about the ocean chlorophyll and showing that the ocean's biology is changing, possibly as a result of climate change," Conkright said.

Whether the changes are caused by long-term global or short-term regional cycles remains unknown, the scientists said.

In some locations, especially the equatorial regions, phytoplankon concentrations actually increased during the time period. But overall, across the entire planet, there was a net decline, they said.

Besides fueling the food chain, phytoplankton plays a crucial role in cycling a primary greenhouse gas through the environment.

Phytoplankton accounts for 50 percent of the transfer of carbon dioxide from the atmosphere back into the biosphere through photosynthesis, the process through which plants absorb carbon dioxide gas to grow.


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August 18, 2002 The New York Times Officers Say U.S. Aided Iraq in War Despite Use of Gas By PATRICK E. TYLER WASHINGTON, Aug. 17 -- A covert American program during the Reagan administration provided Iraq with critical battle planning assistance at a time when American intelligence agencies knew that Iraqi commanders would employ chemical weapons in waging the decisive battles of the Iran-Iraq war, according to senior military officers with direct knowledge of the program. Those officers, most of whom agreed to speak on the condition that they not be identified, spoke in response to a reporter's questions about the nature of gas warfare on both sides of the conflict between Iran and Iraq from 1981 to 1988. Iraq's use of gas in that conflict is repeatedly cited by President Bush and, this week, by his national security adviser, Condoleezza Rice, as justification for "regime change" in Iraq. The covert program was carried out at a time when President Reagan's top aides, including Secretary of State George P. Shultz, Defense Secretary Frank C. Carlucci and Gen. Colin L. Powell, then the national security adviser, were publicly condemning Iraq for its use of poison gas, especially after Iraq attacked Kurds in Halabja in March 1988. During the Iran-Iraq war, the United States decided it was imperative that Iran be thwarted, so it could not overrun the important oil-producing states in the Persian Gulf. It has long been known that the United States provided intelligence assistance to Iraq in the form of satellite photography to help the Iraqis understand how Iranian forces were deployed against them. But the full nature of the program, as described by former Defense Intelligence Agency officers, was not previously disclosed. Secretary of State Powell, through a spokesman, said the officers' description of the program was "dead wrong," but declined to discuss it. His deputy, Richard L. Armitage, a senior defense official at the time, used an expletive relayed through a spokesman to indicate his denial that the United States acquiesced in the use of chemical weapons. The Defense Intelligence Agency declined to comment, as did Lt. Gen. Leonard Perroots, retired, who supervised the program as the head of the agency. Mr. Carlucci said, "My understanding is that what was provided" to Iraq "was general order of battle information, not operational intelligence." "I certainly have no knowledge of U.S. participation in preparing battle and strike packages," he said, "and doubt strongly that that occurred." Later, he added, "I did agree that Iraq should not lose the war, but I certainly had no foreknowledge of their use of chemical weapons." Though senior officials of the Reagan administration publicly condemned Iraq's employment of mustard gas, sarin, VX and other poisonous agents, the American military officers said President Reagan, Vice President George Bush and senior national security aides never withdrew their support for the highly classified program in which more than 60 officers of the Defense Intelligence Agency were secretly providing detailed information on Iranian deployments, tactical planning for battles, plans for airstrikes and bomb-damage assessments for Iraq. Iraq shared its battle plans with the Americans, without admitting the use of chemical weapons, the military officers said. But Iraq's use of chemical weapons, already established at that point, became more evident in the war's final phase. Saudi Arabia played a crucial role in pressing the Reagan administration to offer aid to Iraq out of concern that Iranian commanders were sending waves of young volunteers to overrun Iraqi forces. 

Re: [CTRL] Bunk! 100,000 Men and Boys, Machine-Gunned to Death!!

2002-08-19 Thread Joe Gillaspie
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100,000 Men and Boys, Machine-Gunned
to Death!!
Memo To: Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison
From: Jude Wanniski
Re: Holy Cow!!!That's Genocide!!!
Did you happen to read the letter in
the NYTimes
Tuesday about how Saddam Hussein in 1988 had "100,000 Kurdish men and
boys rounded up, trucked to remote areas and machine-gunned to death, their
bodies bulldozed into mass graves."? The reason I ask you of all people,
Senator, is that I read in the Washington
Post that you are eager
to pre-emptively strike Iraq to deal with this monster, as soon as you
have collected enough of a case against him. I had wondered if you put
the Times letter from Human Rights Watch into your Evidence Envelope,
as it certainly would persuade me we should kill as many Iraqis as it would
take, with bombs and bullets, to rid the Middle East of his ugly presence.
You know from my previous contacts with you and your capable staff that
I consider you to be among the very best U.S. Senators, in the top ten
if not the top five. So if these 100,000 machine-gunned men and boys are
weighing on your decision, I think you can relax on that account.
The story is pure bunk. I've looked into
it and can tell you it never happened. The story actually began as a rumor
picked up by two staff members of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee
who were in Kurdistan at the time the Iran/Iraq war ended in August 1988.
They reported hearing that 100,000 Iraqi Kurds were GASSED to death by
Saddam's army in a matter of days, soon after he concluded his peace with
Iran. The story was dopey to begin with as most of the Iraqi Kurds of fighting
age had fought side-by-side with the Iraqi army. There were a small number
of Iraqi rebels among the Kurds, who defected to the Iranians expecting
Iran would win the war. Of the 2 million male Kurds in Iraq, more than
half were too young or too old to be rounded up and machine-gunned, so
we are talking about Saddam bumping off more than 10% of the relevant population
in a matter of days. The rumor would not have gone very far, Senator, but
Secretary of State George Shultz held a press
conference and told the world that Saddam had GASSED 100,000 men and
boys of fighting age. When asked how he knew, he said it was a secret!
Our State Department essentially confirmed the stupid rumor without an
investigation.
In the years since, Human Rights Watch
has conceded all those fellas could not have been killed by gas, which
the Army War College tells me has a kill rate of only 2% unless your head
is in the oven. Having raised so much money, the Human Rights Watch folks
had to come up with another theory, which is how they now happen to have
been rounded up, machine-gunned to death, and bulldozed into mass graves.
Fourteen years ago. The folks at the Army War College (who you should talk
to, by the way) tell me only one "mass grave" was found, with 14 corpses,
and there has been no other sign of the rest of the 100,000 bullet-riddled
bodies. The reason Human Rights Watch say they were "trucked to remote
areas" before being bulldozed into mass graves, one might suppose, is that
modern technology can spot such doings by satellite, and no such disturbances
of the land have been located.
They REALLY must be remote because American
newshounds sniffing around right after all this blood was supposed to have
been spilled did not smell a thing. Milton
Viorst of the Washington Post, who knows Kurdistan as well as
any American journalist, rushed to the spot as soon as George Shultz loosed
that bolt from the blue, and reported to his readers:
>From what I saw, I would conclude that
if lethal gas was used, it was not used genocidally -- that is, for mass
killing. The Kurds compose a fifth of the Iraqi population, and they are
a tightly knit community. If there had been large-scale killing, it is
likely they would know and tell the world.
But neither I nor any Westerner I encountered
heard such allegations. Nor did Kurdish society show discernible signs
of tension. The northern cities, where the men wear Kurdish turbans and
baggy pants, were as bustling as I had ever seen them. I talked to armed
Kurds near the border, members of Iraqi military unites mobilized against
the rebels.
On the other hand, Iraq probably used
gas of some kind in air attacks on rebel positions. Journalists visiting
the Turkish camps saw refugees with blistered skin and irritated eyes,
symptoms of gassing. But doctors sent by France, the United Nations and
the Red Cross have said these symptoms could have been produced by a powerful,
but nonlethal tear gas.
Citing national security, Mr. Shultz has
declined to submit the U.S. data to scrutiny, even by America's NATO allies,
though State Department sources say it is the sort of information that
the United States routinely shares with them. American officials acknowledge
that Mr. Shultz's evidence, chiefly radio intercepts, may be subject to