Re: [CTRL] Fw: HAARP - Who is Jeane Manning?

1999-08-26 Thread Don Allen

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Who is Jeane Manning and what is her specific level of expertise?

What is Jeane's experience with resonance?

I'm just trying to understand why David posted this message
from Jeane..anyone can post an opinion, but I'm keen to
find out if she is connected with research in this area.

Does Jean have any verifiable facts to add to the topic or HAARP?

Don





At 10:01 AM 08/26/1999 -0700, David Crockett Williams wrote:
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forwarding knowledgeable feedback on yesterday's post on HAARP
-Original Message-
From: Jeane Manning
To: David Crockett Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thursday, August 26, 1999 8:23 AM
Subject: Re: HAARP


David, I'm leaving town in a few minutes to go to Salt Lake City, and in
any
event am not going to get into a discussion on the internet...However I
just
want to say to you as a friend that what  "NewsHawk Inc." wrote is a very
confused and fear-inducing mixture of some fact and some fiction. Where
does
this Montauk-connnections stuff come from? Only a couple of people as far
as
I've heard... And yes there are patents on e/m mind-altering technologies
as you
are well aware. And the ELF bouncing back down from the ionosphere when
perturbed by larger-scale HAARP-type technologies could accidentally
interfere
with the functioning of humans or other life forms in some regions.  But
HAARP
itself as it stands couldn't be used to target anyone's brain.  Small
devices on
the ground can and do, but not a diffuse broadcast effect...
As for targeting Turkey, why would the US want to do that?
My concern is more about accidental upsets of our planet's interconnected
electrical etc systems.
got to run, literally
Jeane


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Re: [CTRL] Mom Madleine

1999-08-25 Thread Don Allen

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At 09:14 PM 08/25/1999 +0200, Mrs. Jela Jovanovic, Secretary General wrote:



RADULOVIC POSSESSES INCONTESTABLE FACTS PROVING THAT
MADLEINE OLBRIGHT HAS SOLD HER SON

According to Philip Radulovic US State Secretary M. Olbright has sold her
son DWEIGHT, born from an affair with a certain " NYEGOSH " for US
$50.000. - Hearing before the court in Paris on September 17.

Jela,

You aren't going to find any supporters of "Mad Bomber" Albright on
this list, so pretty much if Mad Bomber sold out her son, she also
sold out her own country long ago.

I personally would love to strap her fat ass to my Tesla Coil primary
and throw the switch. Fitting isn't it, that a well-known Serbian invention
could be used to channel hundreds of amps through her flesh and
watch high voltages of long purple streamers emit from "her topload".

Mad Bomber is a waste of human flesh.

Don




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Re: [CTRL] [Fwd: To all you gun haters out there!]

1999-08-25 Thread Don Allen

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At 05:58 PM 08/25/1999 -0400, Bill wrote:

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Ah I see...so you are a good judge of idiots?  What makes
that so?  Are they people who disagree with you, or do not
posess the correct aura of gentility?  People like this,
whether you like it or not, are the reason you can even say
what you just did.  And hopefully you will always be able to

It was funny Bill. That someone would turn in a bunch of
non-working weapons, get a bunch of money in return
and turn around and use that money to buy working weapons
is priceless. A great way to beat the system. :-)

Joshua2 can whine and pout all he wants. TFB. Stick around
and watch him have a whole series of knee-jerk responses
to this thread, it's usually hilarious. A post like yours is like
waving a red flag in front of a bull, to him. He'll rant on and on
for days. His blather is great for lots of yuks. :-)

Don



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[CTRL] Proper Y2K tests to do on your machine

1999-08-17 Thread Don Allen

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At 08:13 AM 08/17/1999 -0400, YnrChyldzWyld wrote:

I would suggest people actually LEARN something about computers before
disseminating such garbage

How a date DISPLAYS has absolutely NOTHING to do with how it is defined
to the operating system...

An OS can be Y2K compliant, and still display a 2-digit date...if it is
compliant, it will correctly interpret 01/01/00 as January 1, 2000

If it is NOT compliant, setting it to display a 4-digit date won't
matter, as it will rollover to January 1, 1900 (or whatever earliest year
the BIOS recognizes, usually sometime in the early 1980s)



Microsoft has posted on it's site that the "4 digit date" info being
posted on mailing lists is a _hoax.  Just changing the display date in
the Control Panel doesn't do anything except "look cosmetic" and
make the gullible "feel better".

The only way to *properly* determine if you PC is truly Y2K compliant
is to perform a series of tests at the DOS and BIOS level.  Boot
your PC with a start-up disk directly to DOS, type "Date" and "Time".
Set both to a minute before midnight on Dec 31, 1999. Let your machine
sit for at least a couple of minutes beyond the rollover. Type "Time"
and "Date" again. See what it displays. Re-boot the machine, again using
the start-up disk directly to DOS. Re-type "Time" and "Date". Observe
what it displays. If it reverts to "1980", your machine has problems. Next,
do this test again, except turn OFF your machine. Leave it off for awhile
and then turn it back on and re-enter DOS. See what the date and time
displays.

If it reflects the date and time properly to the year 2000, your machine
is Y2K compliant at the _DOS_ level.

Next, re-boot the machine and intercept it before it's gets to DOS. You
want to enter the BIOS. Once in the BIOS setup, change the time and
date to just a couple of minutes before midnight on Dec 31, 1999.
WATCH the time and date for the rollover. If you see the rollover
perform successfully to 2000, leave the new time and date in place,
turn your machine OFF, leave it off for a few minutes and then turn
it back on and re-enter BIOS. If, on re-entering BIOS, you see the
new time and date are still there (ie, Jan. 01, 12:18am, 2000) THEN
and ONLY THEN can you claim your machine is truly Y2K compliant
at _both_ the DOS and BIOS level.

If it doesn't rollover, your machine definately has a problem and NO
amount of cosmetic trickery with the clock display of 4-digit dates in the
Control Panel will fix it.

There's no halfway measure to this people. Your machine is either
compliant or it isn't. Flaming others won't fix it. DO the tests on your
machine and see what happens. I suggest you leave Windows out
of it and go directly to DOS. This doesn't mean drop to a DOS
prompt. Don't even load Windows, go directly to DOS and BIOS
level.

Good luck on your mission. Remember, Failure is NOT an option.



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Re: [CTRL] HAARP and Mind Control

1999-08-09 Thread Don Allen

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At 11:18 AM 08/08/1999 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


It is interesting that people don't focus on this area very much, especially
in light of the FACT that AFOSI (the Air Force Office of Special
Investigations) officers actually did use technological means to drive a
person crazy.  I can't remember the mans name at the moment but they did beam
"messages" to him while he was monitoring AF bases in the Southwest US.
Admittedly he may have been unstable and they only added to it, but this is a
clear example of such technology being used in the real world.

His name is Paul Bennowitz. AFOSI did a first-rate disinfo job on him.

Don

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Re: [CTRL] Phoney News

1999-08-09 Thread Don Allen

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This confirms my decision many years ago NOT to watch the Nightly
Spewage propaganda broadcasts, was indeed a wise choice.

I'll take "Animal Planet" over Chicken Noodles News any day.

Don

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ps., Edison Electric merged with another company in the earlier
part of this century to become General Electric, owner of NBC.

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The CNN newsreader just reported on the plutonium exposure story. They
did not even mention the fact that the government did not disclose to the
workers that the were handling plutonium instead of uranium. They only
referred to a lawsuit by some of the former employees.

I guess this is to be expected to a 'news' network that is now owned by
Time, Inc.

Steve


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Re: [CTRL] David Icke and Corso

1999-08-09 Thread Don Allen

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At 02:48 PM 08/09/1999 -0500, William Hugh Tunstall wrote:
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Perhaps Icke is a disinformation specialist.  Is Col. Gregory
Corso and his tale of alien technology and back-engineering credible?
Or is Corso another disinfo specialist?

I thought his name was Phillip Corso? He's since passed on and
none of the "credible" big names in Ufology ever took him or his
alien-technology claims seriously.

Having read a great deal on Nikola Tesla, plus just last week
ordered his "Colorado Springs Notes 1899-1900" and in the
process now of building a Tesla coil, it doesn't surprise me one
bit that the government may have taken possession of his lab
notes. I've read claims that his notes, drawings and such
ended up at Los Alamos right after Tesla's death in 1943. I've
read the FBI FOIA accounts on Tesla's death and they, the FBI,
claim it wasn't them who removed the contents of his safe after
his death, but some obscure branch of the "Justice Dept" (Just
Us criminals). It's clear from reading the FBI FOIA accounts of
Tesla's life that the Feds considered his lab notes, etc to be
a "security risk" if they were to "fall into the wrong hands".

If Tesla lived today, he'd _still_ be a "man out of time", way ahead
of his time. He understood the principles of resonance, an issue
I'm just beginning to grasp. I'd be real happy to figure out how to
reduce the amount of RFI spikes produced by the spark gap and
the tank circuit so I don't fry my home electronics while running
the coil. RF chokes are more a problem than a solution.

Don










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[CTRL] Fwd: UFO UpDate: Richard Hall's final 'Reality Check'

1999-08-09 Thread Don Allen

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Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 16:46:58 -0400
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Subject: Richard Hall's final 'Reality Check'


[I am forwarding this posting to the Project 1947 List with
permission from Richard Hall.]

Richard Hall has sent along his last column submitted to UFO
Magazine. He gave them the option of publishing it as a letter
to the editor. They did not publish it, but instead left the
readers with the impression that he was disappearing from their
pages for no specific reason.

He has allowed us to post the column here.


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CALL ME A PURIST!

By Richard Hall


It has been my privilege to contribute a column ("The column
formerly known as Reality Check") to this magazine for several
years, and I am grateful to editor Vicki Cooper Ecker for this
opportunity. Now, however, I have decided to resign and I feel
that I owe the readers an explanation.

As I explained in a private communication, I am just old
fashioned or simple minded enough to think that UFO Magazine
should be about UFOs, not about all the other things it is
increasingly about, such as the total domination of the June
issue by Egyptian archeology. Leave borderline science (and
sometimes beyond the fringe pseudoscience) for aficionados of
same. Leave science fiction for a science fiction publication.
Leave imaginative fiction...please!

To my way of thinking UFOs are a real, physical scientific
mystery that have been swept under the carpet by the major
institutions of our society. The failure of Government to
acknowledge the problem in an open and positive way, and the
failure of conventional news media to ferret out the story
through standard methods and investigative journalism, leaves a
very confused public. When we, the advocates of a real mystery,
mix in other oddball or offbeat ideas with UFOs and toss in
fiction and imagination, it can only lead to further confusion.

There is a clearcut need for good investigative journalism,
which Vicki and Don Ecker have demonstrated an aptitude for. But
whatever economic imperatives or organizational biases are at
work, UFO Magazine has drifted more and more toward subject
matter that has little if anything to do with UFOs. The tone of
the magazine has become uncomfortably close to anti-scientific
or anti-establishment, often entertaining some pretty far-out
notions in the process as if they were more accurate than
present knowledge.

It won't do to simply say that mainline science or scholarship
doesn't have all the answers, and that reasonable alternative
explanations are being offered. Good "borderline science"
(Fortean) research obviously is needed in many areas, and
science needs to wake up to strong evidence of anomalies. But
credible scholarship on the part of some contributing authors
often is lacking. The disc-plane article in the May issue, for
example, is simply bad history.

The speculations about alleged operational U.S. "flying saucer"
craft are totally unsupported by any objective, documented
evidence. The notion that the 1947 Arnold sighting and the 1950
McMinnville, Oregon, photographs (among other cases) could have
been secret U.S. disc craft is, frankly, nonsense. In neither
case did the UFO perform like conventional craft. Arnold's UFOs
oscillated and flipped. The Oregon object hovered silently.

Beyond that, there is not an iota of evidence that any of the
proposed aircraft ever became operational. Lots of patents and
other "paper plans" for unusual aircraft exist, but not the
actual craft itself. The AVRO "saucer" clearly never went beyond
the air cushion machine stage. Also, the author's quaint notion
that the 1955 Air Force photograph showed an actual craft in
flight is laughable. The double image is a fake.

When this sort of blatant speculation is presented as if it were
somehow superior to current knowledge, and slick "theories"
(here and elsewhere) are advanced that far outstrip good
evidence, sensible and scholarly people can only wince. Half-
baked theories are a dime a dozen, and contaminate the UFO field
on a regular basis.

Meanwhile, the relationship of many feature articles to the
serious, factual UFO mystery ranges from tenuous to nonexistent.
Already this year we have seen articles about a killer asteroid,
the future mission of the Air Force, and human evolution. We
have also seen Peter Gersten in a funny looking robe traipsing
around in the desert in pursuit of an obvious hoax. We have seen
issues devoted to fake photographs, even on how to fake
photographs, up to and including a rehash of the now thoroughly

[CTRL] Fwd: UFO UpDate: New Free Internet UFO/Paranormal TV Station

1999-08-09 Thread Don Allen

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Subject: New Free Internet UFO/Paranormal TV Station
Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1999 23:33:09 +0100


The Enigma Channel is one of three new TV networks being
launched in association with EAVAP - the European Academy of
Video  Audio Production - which is having a £3million broadcast
studio complex being built at Alexandra Palace London, England.
Alexandra Palace was the place where John Logie Baird first
broadcast television pictures fifty years ago.  Now, as we enter
the 21st Century, it is once again the epicentre of an important
technological breakthrough in television. The Enigma Channel is
the first TV network specifically designed to broadcast
documentaries about esoteric subjects on the Internet.

The Enigma Channel is a completely FREE TV service offering
programmes 'on demand'. There are several programme categories
for viewers to choose from including UFOs, Crop Circles, Earth
Mysteries, The Paranormal, New Science, Religion  Politics.
Once a viewer has located a programme which they want to watch
it is simply a matter of clicking on the title, and after just a
brief pause the programme will start to roll.

You do not need any special equipment to watch The Enigma
Channel.  It doesn't matter if you have a PC or a Mac - once you
have the Enigma Channel 'GAP' software downloaded (which takes
just 2 minutes) everyone will be able to watch.  You can use any
Browser and any standard modem. Netscape Navigator 4.0  a 56K
modem is recommended for better picture quality - but even
viewers with 28.8 modems will be able to enjoy the wide range of
exciting, esoteric programmes on offer. The new breed of
satellite 'surf boxes' which allow you to surf the internet via
a standard satellite TV dish will enable you to watch The Enigma
Channel on your standard TV, alongside all your favourite TV
channels.

The Enigma Channel has a potential english-speaking on-line
audience of 500 million people - far bigger than any cable or
satellite TV network presently in operation.  Arabic, Spanish
and Japanese sub-titled services of the Enigma Channel will be
launched in the 4th quarter of 2000. Test transmissions will
start at 9pm GMT on the 9.9.99.  Viewers will be able to apply
for their FREE Enigma Channel TV License at www.enigmatv.com
later this year. Full Service will start at 6pm GMT on Christmas
Day 1999.

The documentaries transmitted are exclusive to The Enigma
Channel, have never before been seen on TV and can be bought on
VHS tape from the Enigma Channel on-line shop.  The Enigma
Channel will be launching an on-line interactive TV Guide called
"ZAP! Magazine" which will list all the programmes on the
channel plus information about other on-line TV stations such as
The Healing Channel  D.I.Y.- TV.

Chairman/CEO of The Enigma Channel, Christopher Everard,
addressed the Digital Media Convention in London last week; "The
Enigma Channel's programme content exactly matches the on-line
demographics of the Internet. Our pre-launch market research
suggests we'll be having over 9.6million viewers per day.  After
one year on the air, we'll be attracting more viewers than some
UHF TV channels!  We are part of a grassroots revolution in
Television which will eventually see the TRUTH broadcast - not
merely items that fit in with the government's agenda. The
Enigma Channel is committed to bringing people high quality
in-depth documentaries about subjects which the mainstream media
refuse to cover in a serious way.  Our first season of
programmes features over 4 hours of Crop Circle documentaries -
all made by people who have a deep empathy for the subject -
that's more TV airtime than all the TV stations in the whole
world have dedicated to the subject in the last 20 years!  The
Enigma Channel is the best way of finding out up to date
information on UFOs, Crop Circles, Earth Mysteries and other
esoteric subjects. You can watch what you want to watch -
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[CTRL] Fwd: UFO UpDate: Research Proposal - Hypnotic Suggestibility

1999-08-09 Thread Don Allen

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Subject: UFO UpDate: Research Proposal - Hypnotic Suggestibility

From: Tim D. Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Research Proposal - Hypnotic Suggestibility
Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 23:39:00 -0500


Subject: Research Proposal - Hypnotic Suggestibility, Event
Related Brain Potentials, and Paranormal Experiences

Hello all,

After some talk with various members of this list in regards to
abduction research, I have finally finished a rough draft of a
research proposal which grew out of these discussions. It has
changed quite a bit from my original intentions and is less
obviously related to UFOs. Original plans were to have abduction
experiencers be specifically sought out and have them examine
ambiguous stimuli while brain potentials were recorded via EEG,
and these results would be compared to controls. The focus has
shifted to examine the theoretical "fantasy prone personality,"
paranormal belief and experiences, and how all of this may may
relate to hypnotic suggestibility as well as what goes on in the
brain when people evaluate ambiguous stimuli. I think it has
taken on a more 'doable' (and yes, conservative) form, and may
lay some groundwork for future research which is more directly
related to UFOs/abductions. I have in no way written off more
directly related UFO/abduction studies, and I hope to get the
chance to push the envelope a bit more in the future. The
abstract follows, as well as an earlier "pre-proposal" which
gives a bit more detail. If anyone cares to review the full
proposal, feel free to request it (just so I can avoid spamming
20 pages over the list to those who dont want it).

Best,

Tim Brigham
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Research Proposal:
Hypnotic Suggestibility, Event Related Potentials, Stimulus
Ambiguity, and Fantasy Proneness

Abstract

The proposed study aims to explore the nature of hypnotic
suggestibility and how decisions are made regarding ambiguous
external stimuli. Three categories of visual stimuli, differing
in ambiguity, will be presented immediately following recorded
oral statements regarding these stimuli. Some of these
statements will be accurate while others will be inaccurate.
Participants will indicate agreement or disagreement with the
oral statement after the visual stimuli is presented. Event
Related Potential data will be obtained via scalp electrodes
during stimulus trials, and this data will allow objective
measurement and comparison of cognitive processes at work.
Fantasy proneness, cognitive failures, and reports of personal
paranormal experiences and beliefs will also be measured. The
researcher hypothesizes that highly hypnotizable participants
will demonstrate a greater degree of suggestibility than low
hypnotizables while in a hypnotic state of the same depth. It is
further hypothesized that fantasy proneness and cognitive
failures will correlate positively with hypnotic suggestibility.



Pre-Proposal

Hypnotic Suggestibility, Event Related Potentials, Stimulus
Ambiguity, Fantasy Proneness, and Paranormal Experiences


The proposed study aims to explore the nature of hypnotic
suggestibility and how decisions are made regarding ambiguous
stimuli. Event Related Potential data will be obtained via scalp
electrodes during stimulus trials, and this data will allow
objective measurement and comparison of cognitive events at work.
It is also hoped that data will be gathered that will provide
information regarding if and how decision making processes are
related to fantasy proneness and level of hypnotizability. A
total of 30 participants will be involved in the study, with 15
selected because they test "high in hypnotizability" and the
remaining 15 because they test "low in hypnotizability." All
participants will be involved in the research in both hypnotized,
and 'normal,' states of consciousness. Randomization and counter-
balancing will be used in determining the order of each
individual's participation, and the order in which groups of
stimuli are presented.

Participants will be presented with images (via a computer
monitor) using the STIM system located in the Neurocognition Lab
at The University of West Florida, and oral statements regarding
the nature of these stimuli will be presented by the researcher,
in pre- recorded form, just before each image is presented.
Participants will indicate whether they agree disagree with the
oral statement presented by pressing the corresponding button on
a provided input device.

Three categories of images will be used as stimuli. The first
category of images presented will be extremely simple in nature.
In 50% of images in this category, the screen will be filled with
a solid color. The researcher will present an oral statement
regarding the nature of 

[CTRL] Fwd: UFO UpDate: Re: C-E: Hubble Moon Photos Found

1999-08-09 Thread Don Allen

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From: David Rudiak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1999 20:57:16 EDT
Subject: Re: C-E: Hubble Moon Photos Found
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 Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 08:09:58 +0200
 Fwd Date: Sun, 08 Aug 1999 12:08:22 -0400
 Subject: C-E: Hubble Moon Photos Found


 NASA Lied Again - Hubble Moon Photos Found

 http://oposite.stsci.edu/pubinfo/pr/1999/14/pr-photos.html

 The Space Telescope Science Institute (STSI) released pictures
 of a celestial object that most people thought the Hubble
 telescope was not allowed to view: our own Moon. - Sky and
 Telescope Magazine. Many People have requested NASA to cause the
 Hubble Space Telescope to be pointed towards the Moon and send
 back high resolution pictures of any or all of the alleged
 Apollo Lunar landing sites showing any equipment left behind
 such as the LEM pads, or anything large enough to be spotted by
 the HST at an average distance of perhaps 1.28 billion feet,
 which is an average of about 15,400,000,000 inches distance from
 Earth. NASA objected stating, "the Moon is too bright", commonly
 followed-up by, "the Hubble can't focus on something that close"
 [250,000 miles?]. We knew that this was a lie since the HST has
 sufficient resolution to return exquisitely clear images of the
 Lunar landscape. Positive evidence has turned up that indeed
 NASA  Co. have been lying all along about this Moon is too
 bright/too close balderdash. I'd just like to say... See?... I
 told you so. - Bible Thumper

 HEY NASA! Now that we know you CAN do it... how about taking
 high resolution close up photos using the Hubble Telescope of
 the following alleged Apollo landing locations on the Lunar
 surface: Mare Tranquillitatis 0.67N - 23.49E, Oceanus
 Procellarum 3.20S - 23.38W, Fra Mauro 3.67S - 17.47W, Hadley
 Rille 26.10N - 3.65E, Descartes 8.99S - 15.51E, Taurus-Littrow
 20.16N - 30.76E

 What lie will NASA tell now?

They aren't lying about not being able to resolve lunar landing
sites with Hubble.  I suggest you read your own referenced
Website:

http://oposite.stsci.edu/pubinfo/pr/1999/14/pr-photos.html

Note the part near the bottom which reads:

(lower right) A close-up view of Copernicus' terraced walls.
Hubble can resolve features as small as 280 feet across.

280 feet is a bit larger than a LEM, much less a LEM pad, no?
Can Hubble do better than this?  Not according to basic optical
physics.  A mirror about 2 meters across imaging something
220,000 miles away in blue light (which would give maximum
resolution), can only barely resolve features about 280 feet
across.

Sorry, that's just the way it is.  No lies by NASA here.


David Rudiak



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Re: [CTRL] TOO CLOSE TO THE REAL TRUTH??

1999-06-03 Thread Don Allen

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 The only "agenda showing" here is your inane off-meds blather.

=

At 09:52 AM 6/3/99 -0700, E Mael wrote:


corporal punishment, would that include kent state and tianimen square;
methinks this day doth protest too much. maybe you ought to get past
covering the crimes of your betters with your finger pointing. and
speaking of big bright asses in the noon day sun; your agenda is showing.
oh do tell me how logical you are and how the cool light of reason is the
guide for your agenda. nothing as petty as avarice would ever guide your
hand. your personal crimes do not look so bad when you can point fingers a
larger crime without. something about fussing about the sliver in your
neighbor's eye takes your mind off of the 12 x12 plank in your own eye.
paipas! ya he got paipas. my resume is written in the sky and i am proud
of it. everyone who has had the priveledge to behold it are very
impressed, but you my little puppy dog, will have to wait until you manage
to remove the plank from your eye to see it. stop bothering me, you are a
bore and a bother. certainly not resume material as far as i can see.

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[CTRL] Kosovo - What is This Current Crisis Really About?

1999-05-18 Thread Don Allen

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URL - http://www.rumormillnews.com/current/kosovo.html

 Kosovo:
 The Truth Behind the Headlines
 What Is This Current Crisis Really About?



 03.26.99 RM News Readers who have been following RMNews know that
 there area two things we have been predicting, the return of the
 Iron Curtain and the Second American Revolution. Our predictions of
 these coming world events are based on conversations with men who
 have been, and are privy to the great halls of power on a world wide
 basis. In 1996, one of our best Sources told us that Continental
 Europe (this means the UK is not included) was primarily responsible
 for the "seeming" collapse of the Soviet Union and the freeing of
 the European nations who were enslaved by the Soviets after World
 War Two. According to the Source, this was done to free "some" of
 the European nations that were given to the Soviets by the Allies at
 the end of World War Two.

 This source told us that the collapse of the Soviet Union was only
 an "illusion" and it would be a temporary one.  Evidently the deal
 that was made would see that the USSR stayed in ruins long enough
 for the European nations of Hungary, Czechoslovakia, Slovenia,
 Herzegovina and Montenegro to become free from the Soviet yoke and
 become part of Europe once again.

 The source who gave us this information did not mention Poland,
 Serbia, Romania or Bulgaria or any of the other countries that
 suffered under the Soviets. RMNews does not know if these countries
 were intended to remain part of the newly created European Union, or
 if they would fall once more under the Russian boot once the Iron
 Curtain goes back up.

 Our source told us that the small ethic and tribal wars that are
 raging around the world troubled him. He said that in today's world,
 it is much too easy for a rogue nation or a rogue faction to create
 or buy nuclear and/or biological weapons. And unfortunately, there
 are too many of "rogues" to keep track of. He said the only way to
 bring these rogue nations and factions back under control was to
 bring back the Iron Curtain and the Cold War.

 He maintained that "peace" was far easier to keep when the United
 States and the Soviets had their nuclear missiles pointed at each
 other. He laughed when he said this, as if he knew the cold war was
 really a sham which  owed the world to be divided between two
 Masters.

 Just think how easy it was for Washington to raise our taxes and
 increase our military when the Soviets had nuclear weapons pointed
 at us. If there was no nuclear threat, would the American people
 hand over their money to the IRS and allow the United States to
 spend billions on developing a Star Wars system? The International
 bankers who are behind the New World Order created the best enemy
 money could buy when they created the Soviet Union.  The Two
 Factions RMNews has written many times about the two factions that
 vie for control of the world, but for the  sake of those who have
 not read our back issues, a brief explanation is in order.
 Faction One is called the New World Order. It is made up of the
 International Bankers who control the English throne, financed the
 Russian Revolution, created the U.S. Federal Reserve Bank, the
 International Monetary Fund, he World Bank, the United Nations, and
 the modern day environmental movement through which humans become
 "an alien specie" and become targeted for "population control," i.e.
 elimination.

 Faction Two was originally made up from a group of Continental
 Europeans who believe that the International Bankers of the New
 World Order destroyed their idyllic way of life, burned their Empire
 and plundered their fortunes.

 Many members of Faction Two are descended from the thrones that were
 part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire.  These people have knowingly
 done battle with the New World Order since 1776. This was the year
 the  Illuminati threat to the thrones of Europe was exposed by the
 King of Bavaria. Once exposed, the Illuminati agents were thrown out
 of the royal courts.

 After World War Two, many of these men were forced into hiding. Some
 of them came to the United States and were put to work for various
 intelligence agencies. At the moment, the leaders of Faction Two
 hide within Navy Intelligence. The members of Faction Two are
 everywhere, even in the White House and the Council of Foreign
 Relations.

 The Illuminati is the driving force behind the men who keep alive
 the dream of a One World Government which is based on their version
 of Utopia. Their Utopia would be an Idyllic Paradise where all
 rights flowed to mankind from their government, and the only purpose
 for mankind was to serve the government. The Illuminati spirit now
 runs the International Banks and forms the basic belief system of
 the New World Order.

 Faction Two claims to believe in an ancient Knights Templar Charter
 which states: Each living being possesses basic divine rights. The
 most basic right 

Re: [CTRL] Credit Card Processor Holds Y2K Funds For 210 Days

1999-05-17 Thread Don Allen

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At 01:04 PM 5/16/99 -0700, Eric Lash wrote:
 -Caveat Lector-

I have just been informed by a company from which I ordered some Y2K items
that their credit card processor (not the bank) has placed a 210 day hold
on all charged funds for Y2K related products.  I have heard rumors about
this recently, but this is the first time I have heard about it first-hand.
 This puts smaller and mail-order merchants in quite a bind.

I seem to recall reading a few weeks ago that a few banks were
with-holding the funds of some Y2K outfits on the web alleging
that these outfits were committing "fraud", and freezing their
accounts. This sounds like nervous bank pisswits to me, rather
than a conspiracy.

You didn't state what item(s) you were trying to purchase, but my
advice to you is to cancel your order, if you can, and find another
company. Also, don't overlook stores off the web like Wal-mart,
Sam's, Costco, Ace Hardware, Home Depot...even a feed and
tack store, if available in your area. I have had great success
in these stores and have been able to fulfill almost my whole
Y2K list already. None of these stores will refuse your valid
credit card, and there's no waiting period. I still see plenty
of cheap available propane tanks for heating and cooking
in these stores. I've seen 5Kw gensets, water purifiers and
non-hybrid seeds in feed and tack stores. You can get
bulk food at Costco and Sam's, long burning glass candles
at Wal-mart for under 2 bucks. Regardless of what's
happenning with some Y2K sites, don't let that be a deterrent
to you to have a backup contingency plan. If it's alternate
energy related you're after (wind generator, solar) try
http://www.jademountain.com. That's a huge site and one
not likely to be messed with by pisswit bankers.

You can also take a look at my Y2K resources page on
my site - http://www.totcon.com/users/dona and see if
there's anything that might be of help to you. I've tried to
cover all the Y2K bases with resources.

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[CTRL] Channel from SpiritLife Newsletter

1999-05-13 Thread Don Allen

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From a friend...


Hi everyone -
I received a note from the editor of SpiritLife Newsletter.
He sent in a channel as part of it - to be shared to all :

Here is an excerpt from the most recent channeling from Archangel Ariel,
dated May 4th, 1999.

Archangel Ariel Channeling
through Isaac George, Sedona, AZ May 4th, 1999

There is a hundred day window that began on May 2 and that continues
through August 11th, 1999.  This window is an opportunity for many of the
starseeds and lightworkers to finish many of their personal issues, to
complete the karmic effects of some of the choices they have made in this
lifetime and in others.  It is also a time frame during which the planet and
the mass-consciousness of humanity is cleaning up their act.

It is very important to be most aware of one's thoughts and emotional
responses during this time frame, as it will have an outward effect, an
outward response in the environment very quickly.  You are reaching a time
within this  hundred day cycle when the planet herself will no longer be
present within the photon belt directly.  However, your sun's activity
within that realm of energy is going to be significant and increase
exponentially between now and the August 11th Solar Eclipse and beyond.

What you will also see is corresponding response within the weather patterns
and also within the political and social arenas that will look very much in
the way of chaos.  There is also going to be a corresponding chaotic
fluctuation within the financial markets and also within the various hot
spots around the planet.  You have a situation that is brewing in the Middle
East that has not yet been understand by most of your media and analysts.
This is a delicate time coming up between now and August 11th.

To look at the immediate future we will look at May 11th through the end of
May: This is a download of new energies that will be coming in, some of it
traveling with your solar winds, some of it coming in from the galactic
solar center Alcyone (the Central Sun).  Also on this rise of energy will be
carried many of the encodements necessary to awaken the next level of
humanity.  This awakening will create a ground swell of people seeking
assistance between the period of July and December.  That is why  most of
you will be very busy attending to the confusion and attending to the
release of emotional trauma and patterns that have been held in the
physical, mental and emotional bodies of individuals.

There will also be those who will be seeking to become more awake and more
aware of their function.  Now how does this translate in terms of the
process of lightbody?  Between now and the end of May you will be seeing a
new quotient of the lightbody process activated.  There is going to be some
of the beings that were raised in the first group from 1987 to 1997 who will
begin to translate into tenth level lightbody.  This has happened to some
degree but not consistently nor with stability for some individuals.
When this occurs it will be a quantum shift on some level for the beings
that are awake and have been in the awareness that they are starseeds, that
they are also highly evolved souls that have come to assist the planetary
birthing process.  This will be come more and more evident through the
months of June and July.

In the month of June, particularly near the end of June there will be the
beginning of a solar cycle initiated.  From the time that the planet
actually exits the photon belt, the 15th, 16th or 17th of June, and then at
the end of the month there will be a major solar eruption, solar storm, that
will impact the planet by the 1st, 2nd and 3rd of July.  This could be of
such severity that it may incapacitate for a temporary time most of the
planetary communications on one side of the globe.  It could also trigger
severe tornado and thunderstorm activity. It could also bring hurricane
season into being much sooner than its regular cycle of  late August through
early October.  Therefore,  it is most important to be in awareness that
these things are part of natural evolution, natural forces.

Some of the galactic forces that are in attendance in your world will do
what they can to modify the effects of the solar storm before it actually
depresses the magnetosphere of your planet and creates the atmospheric
disturbances mentioned.  There is to be a step-up of this activity as you
have seen through the news reports of massive tornado destruction in
Oklahoma and Kansas.  This is the tip of the iceberg.  These have been the
result of the coronal mass injections that have been occurring since May 1st
and 2nd.

There will be more of an interrelatedness observed by your scientists and
meteorologists between the solar activity and the weather patterns on the
planet.  It is not all because of the manmade greenhouse effect; it is not
all because of the emissions from fossil fuels and the effects on the
ionosphere and the ozone layer.   What is 

Re: [CTRL] Why GUNS are here to stay.

1999-05-12 Thread Don Allen

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At 01:15 AM 5/12/99 -0400, Howard R. Davis III wrote:
 -Caveat Lector-

 Right! Like you gun loonies are really going to stop tanks with your
 9mms
 and your shotguns.

During the Hungarian revolution many Russian tanks were taken out with
"Molotov cocktails". Tanks are not necessarily unstoppable. Also, TOW
missiles might become readily available if a civil war were to erupt.
However, as I am sure you realize, a well armed citizenry would be
impossible to stop even if the opposition had help from outside forces

Howard,

While your arguments are well made, you're wasting your ascii on this brain
dead fool. Let him continue to rant about "gun control" when FEMA comes
to pick up his sorry ass and he isn't able to defend himself, is taken off to
a concentration camp and summarily executed.

Don


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[CTRL] Star Fire: The Gold of the Gods - Pt. 1

1999-05-09 Thread Don Allen

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- STAR FIRE -

The Gold of the Gods

The true Grail bloodline originated with the Anunnaki gods in southern
Sumeria  at least 6,000 years ago and was sustained by ingestion of an
alchemical  substance called 'Star Fire'.

Part 1 of 3


Extracted  from  Nexus  Magazine, Volume 5, Number 6
(October-November 1998).
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From our web page at: http://www.icom.net/~nexus/
From a lecture presented by
Sir Laurence Gardner, Kt St Gm., KCD, KT St A.
at the 1998 NEXUS Conference held in Sydney, 25  26 July
Transcript © Sir Laurence Gardner 1998


It is now nearly two years since my book, Bloodline of the Holy Grail,
was  published, and for those of you who have not read this  (or  have
not  seen  the   serialised lecture transcript in NEXUS magazine), the
investigation is  essentially concerned with the  Messianic  Bloodline
as  it  has  descended through  the family of Jesus Christ down to the
present day.  It is also concerned with  comparing the  New  Testament
Gospels  with  the  first-hand  historical  accounts  of   the era, as
related in both the Roman and Jewish archives.   In  this  regard,  it
details   how   the  eventual  Christian  High  Church  corrupted  and
manipulated the  early records to suit its own political agenda.

Despite the contrived doctrine that Jesus was born of a virgin and was
the 'one  and only' son of God (definitions that did  not  feature  in
the  original  pre-Roman  texts), the New Testament Gospels of Matthew
and Luke actually give details ofJesus'  descendant  lineage  from
David  of  Israel  and  the  Kings  of Judah. This has  led to the one
question I have been  asked  more  than  any  other  during  the  past
months.   The  question (in its various forms) asks quite simply: What
was so  special about this Bloodline in the first place?

Given that the dynastic  succession  from  Jesus  has  been  expressly
prominent  insovereign and political affairs through 2,000 years -
with  the  family  constantlysupporting  constitutional  democracy
against  control  by the Church establishment  - its status rests upon
the fact that Jesus was a lineal descendant of King  David.

But, what was it that made the line of  David  so  important,  and  so
different from   any other?  It was this very question which set me on
the trail for my next book,  Genesis of the Grail Kings,  which  tells
the story of the Messianic line from the  very beginning.

The  Bible  explains that the Bloodline story began with Adam and Eve,
from whose  third son, Seth, evolved a line which  progressed  through
Methuselah  and  Noah,  and eventually to Abraham who became the Great
Patriarch of the Hebrew nation.  It then relates that Abraham  brought
his  family  westwards  out  of Mesopotamia  (present-day Iraq) to the
land of Canaan (or Palestine), from where some  of  hisdescendants
moved into Egypt. After a few generations they moved back into  Canaan
where,  in  time,  the  eventual David of Bethlehem became King of the
newly  defined Kingdom of Israel.

If viewed as it is presented in the scriptures, this is a  fascinating
saga;  butthere  is nothing anywhere to indicate why the ancestral
line of David and his  heirs was in any way special.  In  fact,  quite
the reverse is the case.  His  ancestors are portrayed as a succession
of  wandering  territory-seekers  who are  seen to be of no particular
significance until the time of King David.  Theirbiblical  history
bears  no  comparison  to,  say, the contemporary Pharaohs of  ancient
Egypt. Their significance, we are told, comes from the fact that (from
 the time of Abraham) they were designated as 'God's  chosen  people'.
But  eventhis  leaves  us  wondering,  because,  according  to the
scriptures, their God led  them through nothing but  a  succession  of
famines,  wars  and  general hardship -  and, on the face of it, these
early Hebrews do not appear to have been too  bright!

We are faced, therefore, with a couple of possibilities.  Either David
was not of  this Abraham succession at all,  and  was  simply  grafted
into the list by later  writers.  Or maybe we have been presented with
a  very  corrupted  version of the  family's early history - a version
that was specifically designed to uphold the  emergent  Jewish  faith,
rather than to represent historical fact.  In consideration of this, I
was  reminded  of  precisely what I had found with the  New Testament.
The Gospel texts that have been in the public domain  forcenturies
bear  little  relation to the first-hand accounts of the era.  The New
Testament, as we know it, was compiled by the 4th-century  bishops  to
support thenewly  contrived  Christian  belief.   But, what if the
Jewish scribes had previously  done exactly the same thing?

Clearly, I had to get back to the more ancient writings  in  order  to
find anyanomalies.

[CTRL] Star Fire: The Gold of the Gods - Pt. 2

1999-05-09 Thread Don Allen

 -Caveat Lector-

Star Fire Part 2

- STAR FIRE -

The Gold of the Gods

Once  the  Anunnaki departed Sumeria, the preselected Master Craftsmen
developed a  substitute for Star Fire: a mystical bread made from  the
alchemical white powder  of gold.

Part 2 of 3


Extracted from Nexus Magazine, Volume 6,
Number 1 (December 1998 - January 1999).
PO Box 30, Mapleton Qld 4560 Australia. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Telephone: +61 (0)7 5442 9280; Fax: +61 (0)7 5442 9381

From our web page at: http://www.icom.net/~nexus/
From a lecture presented by
Sir Laurence Gardner, Kt St Gm., KCD, KT St A.
at the 1998 NEXUS Conference held in Sydney, 25  26 July
Transcript © Sir Laurence Gardner 1998



It was this very concept of 'being' or 'self-completeness' which posed
the  ultimate problem for Enlil-Jehovah. In contrast, his brother Enki
knew  that   humans who partook of the Tree of Knowledge (the Anunnaki
wisdom) and of the  Plant of Birth  (the  Anunnaki  Star  Fire)  could
themselves become  almost  like   gods.  Even Jehovah was said to have
recognised this, and Genesis states that   when  Adam  had  taken  the
fruit of the Tree, Jehovah said, "Behold, the man is  become as one of
Us".

Enki  the  Wise,  Guardian  of the Tree of Knowledge, also had another
name in the  Hebrew tradition.They  called  him  Samael  (Sama-El)
because  he  was the designated  Lord of Sama in northern Mesopotamia.
The teachings of the early mystery-schools  were very  specific  about
the Trees of Life and Knowledge, and they emulated the  very teachings
of  Enki  himself.It  was  said:  Nothing  is  obtained  simply by
wanting.  And nothing is achieved by relinquishing responsibility to a
higher  authority.  Belief is the act of 'beliving', for to 'be  live'
is to 'believe' -  and Will is the ultimate medium of the Self.

The  Sumerian  records  relate that Cain's son, King Etana, partook of
the Plant of  Birth in order to father his  own  son  and  heir,  King
Baali  -  and  the  Plant  ofBirth  was  directly  associated with
individual longevity and the office of  Cainship, or Kingship. It  was
itself  related  to  Star  Fire  and  to  pineal  gland  activity, and
partaking of the Plant of Birth was the ritual of ingesting the   Star
Fire  -  the  pure  Anunnaki  female  essence,  the  Nectar of Supreme
Excellence.  In this regard, the Anunnaki 'flow-er' (flower  or  lily)
was  held  to  be the  Cup-bearer, the transmitter of the Rich Food of
the Matrix. In this capacity,  she was called the Rose of Sharon (from
the word Sha, meaning 'Orbit', alongwith  the  words  Ra  and  On,
relating to the ultimate temple of 'Light'). The  significance of this
highly  venerated  station  is  actually made apparent in the  Bible's
esoteric Song of Solomon wherein the Messianic Bride proclaims to  the
King, "I am the Rose of Sharon and the Lily of the valleys".

A Star Fire recipient King was considered to have become qualified for
Kingshipwhen  he  reached  a  pre-destined  state  of  enlightened
consciousness - a state when  his aptitudes for wisdom and  leadership
had  been  enhanced  to  a realm of Kingship  called the Malkû. It was
from this Mesopotamian word Malkû that  the  Hebrewsderived  their
words Malchus (King) and Malkhut (Kingdom).

Only  in  very  recent  times  have  medical scientists identified the
hormonal  secretion of the pineal gland, finally isolating it in 1968.
The essence was  called melatonin, which means  'night  worker'  (from
the  Greek,  melos,  meaning'black', and tosos, meaning 'labour').
Those with a high melatonin output react   strongly  against  sunlight
because  it  affects  their  mental  capability; they are  essentially
night operatives.  Melatonin is called the 'hormone  of  darkness'  as
it is produced only at night or in the dark.  Exposure to an excess of
sunlightactually  makes  the  pineal  gland  smaller  and  lessens
spiritual awareness,  whereasdarkness  and  high  pineal  activity
enhance  the  keen  intuitive  knowledge  of  thesubtle mind while
reducing the stress factor.

At this stage, it is of interest to note how it was that the Christian
Church  eventually demolished the true significance of the  Star  Fire
ritual  bymanoeuvring it into the realm of sinister Gothic legend.
In the old tradition,  the ultimate holders of the Malkhut were  known
as  Dragons  or Pendragons, and the  reigning head was always known as
Draco.

By virtue of their bodily conditioning through supplementary melatonin
and other  hormonal secretions, they were in fact Princes of Darkness;
and they gained  their heightened awareness, above-normal  powers  and
longevity from the Star Fire  - the lunar blood of the Anunnaki Queens
and the  priestly Scarlet Women.  As detailed in Bloodline of the Holy
Grail, the brutal Catholic Inquisitions of  the Middle Ages  were  set
against  all  the  so-called  heretics  who  in  one  way  or  another
supported the Messianic Blood Royal (the Sangréal) 

[CTRL] Star Fire: The Gold of the Gods - Pt. 3

1999-05-09 Thread Don Allen

 -Caveat Lector-

Star Fire Part 3


- STAR FIRE -

The Gold of the Gods

Once  the  Anunnaki  departed  Sumeria,  Master  Craftsmen developed a
substitute for  Star Fire in the form of a mystical  bread  made  from
the alchemical white powder  of gold.

Part 3 of 3


Extracted  from  Nexus  Magazine,  Volume  6,
Number 2 (February-March 1999).
PO Box 30, Mapleton Qld 4560 Australia. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Telephone: +61 (0)7 5442 9280; Fax: +61 (0)7 5442 9381

From our web page at: http://www.icom.net/~nexus/
From a lecture presented by
Sir Laurence Gardner, Kt St Gm., KCD, KT St A.
at the 1998 NEXUS Conference held in Sydney, 25  26 July
Transcript © Sir Laurence Gardner 1998


By  the  1880s,  the  governing  establishments  of  Christendom  were
dreading  the  very  word 'archaeologist'. And so, archaeological digs
were brought under strict  control, and their funding and undertakings
had to be approved by newly  designated authorities.

One of these, the Egypt Exploration Fund, was established  in  Britain
in 1891,  and on the very first page of its Memorandum and Articles of
Association  it  isstated  that the Fund's objective is to promote
excavation work "for the purpose  of elucidating or  illustrating  the
Old Testament  narrative".  In short, this meant that if something was
found which could be used to support  the scriptural teaching, then we
(the public) would be informed.  Anything which  did not  support  the
Church  interpretation of the Bible was not destined to see  the light
in the public domain.

Now we are going to take a look at one of the  monumental  finds  from
that  era - a  discovery about which very little is known to people at
large.  In fact, it is  probably the most important biblical discovery
ever made and it has stunning  implications far beyond  the  discovery
itself,  for  this  is  the  ultimate  story  of   the Phoenix and the
Fire-stone.

Within the Book of Exodus, a significant biblical mountain  is  named.
It  sits in  the extensive range of the Sinai Peninsula - the upturned
triangular land-mass  which lies above the Red Sea between the Gulf of
Suez and the Gulf of Aqabah. In  the Old Testament,  the  mountain  is
firstly called 'Mount Horeb', then it is  called 'Mount Sinai', and is
subsequently called 'Horeb' again as the story  progresses.

The  story,  of course, is that of Moses and the Israelite exodus from
Egypt. This  was the mountain upon which, according to  Exodus,  Moses
saw  the burning bush;  the mountain where he talked with Jehovah; and
the place where he received the  Ten Commandments and  the  Tables  of
Testimony.

Something  that  we should recognise at this stage is that at the time
of Moses  (roughly 1350  BC)  there  was  no  mountain  called  'Mount
Sinai'. There was no  mountain by that name even in the days of Jesus,
nor even  for  another 300 years.  It should also be said that the Old
Testament which is familiar to us today  is  atranslation  from  a
Hebrew  text compiled only 1,000 years ago, and it is  therefore a few
centuries younger even than the canonical New Testament.

The mountain now generally known as Mount Sinai sits in the  south  of
thepeninsula,  quite  near  to  the  bottom  point of the upturned
triangle.  It was given  its name in the 4th century AD by  a  mission
of  Greek Christian monks, 1,700  years after the time of Moses. It is
now sometimes called 'Gebel Musa' (or  'Mount of Moses'), and a  small
Christian  retreat,  St  Catherine's  Monastery,   still exists there.
But, was this the  Sinai  mountain  which  the  Bible  calls'Mount
Horeb'?  Well, it transpires that it was not.

The Book of Exodus goes into some detail to explain the route taken by
Moses  andthe  Israelites from the Nile Delta land of Goshen, down
across Sinai, across the  wilderness regions of Shur and Paran, to the
land of Midian (which is to the  north of  present-day  Jordan).  From
this  route  it  becomes  very easy to identify  the location of Mount
Horeb. It sits a good deal north of Gebel Musa.  The word horeb simply
means 'desert', and the great desert mountain which  soarsto  over
2,600  feet  within  a  high stone plateau above the Plain of Paran is
today  called 'Serâbît' - or, to be more  precise,  Serâbît  el-Khâdim
(the Prominence of  the Khâdim).

In  the  late  1890s,  the  British  Egyptologist Sir William Flinders
Petrie, a  Professor at the University College, London, applied to the
Egypt Exploration  Fund to take an expedition into Sinai.  By  January
l904,  he  and his team were in  Sinai, and in March of that year they
took their expedition to the heights of  Mount Serâbît.

In the following year, Petrie published the detailed  results  of  his
findings,but  added  to  his report the fact that this information
would not be made  available officially to the Egypt Exploration  Fund
subscribers;  they  wouldreceive  only maps and a general outline.
Furthermore,  Petrie  explained  that  even

Re: [CTRL] Why GUNS are here to stay.

1999-05-09 Thread Don Allen

 -Caveat Lector-

At 04:25 PM 5/9/99 -0700, nurev wrote:


   "Guns will make us powerful; butter will only make us fat."

 --Hermann Goering, radio broadcast (1936)

Who is this Herman guy? Some fat NRA redneck from Idaho? Can't
even spell his own name right.
***


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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Illuminati News

1999-05-03 Thread Don Allen

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At 05:38 AM 5/3/99 -0400, Colleen Jones wrote:


Colleen

http://user.tninet.se/~gbl020q/illum_index.htm

That's way cool. Thanks for digging that up.

Don


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[CTRL] How to lose web traffic - or stupid webmaster tricks

1999-05-01 Thread Don Allen

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Found on the web at http://www.ascension.com, on their home page:

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Got Java?
If you don't have the Java2 platform installed on your system, this applet
will download it for you. It is approx. 10 MEGS, but then you won't have to
download it again, for this site or others that use Java2. Your system may
appear to hang for a few seconds while the applet initializes, this is normal.

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Unless you are willing to spend hours and hours d/l the "java2 platform", you
are left looking at a blank index page with no alternative method of
navigation.

Dumb..really dumb.



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Re: [CTRL] Art Bell is GONE

1999-04-30 Thread Don Allen

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At 12:11 AM 4/30/99 -0400, T Nohava wrote:
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  Source - http://www.stephens-behold.com/index.html

Oh, one more URL -

http://www.stephens-behold.com/nasa_documentation.html

I suppose you're going to TRY to pathetically claim those NASA badges
are "fake" too, eh?

Hehehe.

Bell Cult loses.
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Re: [CTRL] Art Bell is GONE

1999-04-30 Thread Don Allen

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At 12:11 AM 4/30/99 -0400, T Nohava wrote:

http://crossfields.com/~watcher/robertamstephenspage.html


PHONY SEAL POSTERCHILD '98: ROBERT A.M. STEPHENS
Robert A.M. Stephens laid claim to being a SEAL Reservist attached to SEAL
Team THREE, a NASA Space Shuttle contractor and a government "BlackOps
insider" with information on everything from UFO cow lip research to DoD
Kaptain Krunch decoder rings. He foisted his nonsense to hundreds of
thousands of listeners on the Art Bell radio program until we hoisted him up
by his skivvies on the yardarm. http://the-south.com/TheTeams/fakers.shtml

You are entirely free to believe dis-info. You can call NASA and verify
Stephens. In addition, if you have the guts, you can visit the crossfields.com
link above and see for yourself what the truth is. It exposes the dis-info
campaign for what it is - a pack of scurilous lies.

In addition, Stephens has posted his CV in two GIF files located at
http://www.stephens-behold.com/public_cv_1.html . That too, can be
verified.

The Cult of Bell loses.

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Re: [CTRL] Art Bell is GONE

1999-04-29 Thread Don Allen

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At 05:28 AM 4/29/99 -0400, T Nohava wrote:
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 Source - http://www.stephens-behold.com/index.html

 News Break
 4-28-1999 @10PM MST
 ART BELL IS GONE


This link should answer the credibility of the above.
http://www.borderlands.com/robertfraud.htm

And _this_ link answers the blatant DIS-INFORMATION of the the Borderlands link
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http://crossfields.com/~watcher/robertamstephenspage.html

Read it and weep, dis-info agent!


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[CTRL] Richard Hoagland Fakes Heart Attack

1999-04-28 Thread Don Allen

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Source - http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Runway/1793/

The
Richard C. Hoagland
Debunkery Homepage
(a.k.a. The "Dick" Hoaxland Buggery Homepage)


!!! News Flash !!!

Richard Hoagland Fakes "Heart Attack"

Art Bell and Other Disinformation Cronies Fall Into Line

An unnamed, yet reliable, government source has just informed this site that
Richard C. Hoagland, of The "Enterprise Mission" homepage, has faked his
recent heart attack. He performed this heinous act to ostensibly garner
sympathy following a recent devastating blow to his ego and reputation after
verified and authenticated reports of his continued blatant and futile
attempts at (apparent and seeming) Plagiarism, Fraud and other forms of
unethical and asinine behavior made him look even more ridiculous and
pathetic than he has looked in the past.

One man on the street was heard commenting as follows:

" How anyone could do such a thing is beyond me. I didn't even think Dick
Hoaxland would sink this low. This is definitely the beginning of the end
for that S.O.B. "

A doctor (admittedly, a Chiropractor), who shall remain nameless to protect
his good reputation, when contacted for comments, made the observation that:

" Even Mr. Hoagland couldn't recover from an acute myocardial infarction
(severe heart attack -- Ed.) as fast as he supposedly did. Did you see the
picture of him on his website, supposedly taken the day after his "open
heart surgery"? I don't think so. It was probably just gas. "

Yes, even medical professionals know RCH is full of hot air (or just full of
"it"?), and that something stinks in Denmark regarding this obvious ruse.
There can be no other explanation!

Of course, Art Bell quickly joined Hoagland's cause-apparent, attempting to
add further credibility to the events at hand. This backfired horribly,
however, since Art Bell lost all credibility some time ago (ask anyone -- do
you hear anything else anymore?). And whom among us really believed Art
didn't know what was really going on. He was cooler and colder reporting on
his "friend" Hoagland's "heart attack" than he was signing off for the last
time (yeah, right) a few months ago in his "good by cruel world"
announcement. Is this guy made of stone, or what? Either he's a heartless,
emotionless bastard, or we are right about him having prior knowledge of
"the event" and being "in" on the whole ordeal. Could there be any other
explanation? btw - Did you catch the attempted faux emotion in Bell's voice
(he's no (good) actor) -- we were expecting crocodile tears to come
streaming through the speakers at any time.

The net affect of Art Bell's "involvement" was to further sensationalize the
media circus surrounding this oh-so-unfortunate and nasty incident, which is
what we are sure was the main goal anyway (gotta tend dem ratings). More
people than you would think can't wait until the day arrives when Art Bell '
farsights ' Richard Hoagland the way he did Courtney Brown (The Farsight
Institute -- thereby the verbage) and David Oates (Reverse Speech) among
others (or vise versa -- six of one, a half dozen of another). Just wait --
time will be very telling in this respect. And one can only hope that Ed
Dames (Technical Remote Viewing) and Whitley Strieber (Communion, tc.) are
on that short list, as well. (And we recently hear that Sean David Morton is
on the outs, as well...and all references to him and others have been
removed from the Art Bell website...how petty is that? Did you expect
anything less? (or is it more? -- wait, what was the middle one?))

And, speaking of Whitley Strieber and Courtney Brown, did you catch that
hilarious debacle the other night with those Millennium Group Nerds? With
Art Bell attacking them the way he attacked Brown, but letting up on them
like he didn't on Brown (for god knows what reason -- who knows what goes
through that guy's scrambled brains).

And when the Nerds gave some "solid" evidence that the Hale Bopp Companion
images that were Brown's downfall were actually tested by an
honest-to-goodness image specialist (as opposed to just being eye-balled by
some goofball radio announcer, and him taking the word of some supposed
"astronomer" and obvious canardian black ops plant, and labeling the images
"fake") and the fact was made known that there is a small Hawaiian telescope
that shoots photographic film (like many of us already knew, but Art Bell
conveniently ignored), and the images are now found to be "real", did Art
Bell sound or seem sorry for what he did to Courtney Brown?
You might have noticed a very slight hesitation, but nothing more. Not from
The Great Art Bell. (you gotta say that/read it in Art's "radio voice" -- it
sounds twice as funny) It was fun listening to Strieber back-pedal and try
to assuage his obviously guilty conscience, though. Good for a few laughs,
anyway. (oh, and like Art Bell really doesn't know who "James Neff"
is...yeah, right (webmasterless for Jeff Rense's Sightings on the Radio

Re: [CTRL] It's about children, not brownie points.

1999-04-27 Thread Don Allen

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At 12:10 PM 4/26/99 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 -Caveat Lector-

Previous thread: The FACTS are still the FACTS.

Fellow Lollards,

Housewife June has asked if I can document my "claim", and
adds that: "[S]ecurity guards as a rule are worthless in defending
the public, rarely if ever receive any sort of professional training,
rarely if ever even get trained in first aid and CPR..."

You aren't winning in this "argument". All you're doing is showing
that instead of dealing with issues, you're more interested in
spewing out the ad homenim insults to make your "ego" look
"right".

What possible difference could it make that June is a "housewife" ?
Are the opinions of "housewives" any less important than yours?

Mae Brussel was a housewife too..and probably the best conspiracy
researcher of all time.

You lose in this round. Next time, try dealing directly with issues and
drop the insults.



Gee June, did you happen to know that the security guard
was an off-duty Jefferson County Officer who, by radio, WAS
in direct contact with the dispatch center?

Here in Colorado, where we are one officer at a time becoming
a police state, off-duty officers rotate in shifts, or work opposite
of their regular police shift, in schools; video rental stores; high
traffic entertainment centers; etc.

People like myself, are part of a movement which is pointing out
that these off-duty officers are using state vehicles, gas, etc.,
while making money at their part-time jobs.  Either way, this
was a COP on duty as the High School's security guard.

This proves to be only ONE of Revcoal's ill-informed statements.

Revcoal's entire argument about "point to point" radio contact,
as well as your assumptions toward the inability of the "security
guard, are BOTH completely irrelevant in light of the fact that
this was an off-duty POLICE officer.

Revcoal truly does not know what she is talking about, and
she is [unfortunately] spreading disinformation through her
own lack of credible data.

In a message dated 99-04-26 07:48:43 EDT, revcoal says:
Remember, there are over 2000 students at this school...even if
only one percent of them tried to call on pay and cell phones, you're
talking approximately 20 calls coming in at once on a system that
probably only has about 20 lines operational...

You have a valid point!!!

Let's see, 20 incoming calls, 20 lines operational.

Is there supposed to be a problem here?

Before you open your piehole, make sure that you
are not falling into the trap that I am setting for you.

Do *YOU* know how many emergency calls were placed
between 11:00 a.m.and 11:30 a.m on Tuesday the 20th?

In a message dated 99-04-26 07:48:43 EDT, revcoal says:
The teacher was only one of DOZENS of
callers who were kept online...

This is irrelevant.  The point of contention, was that this teacher
could not have been on hold, blocking her OWN call's inability to
get through to 911; which, Revcoal's own contradictive statements
foolishly concluded.

In a message dated 99-04-26 07:48:43 EDT, revcoal says:
The teacher was only one of DOZENS
of callers who were kept online...

Considering that we have not been able to confirm ANY calls
more than the couple that have been released via tape, I would
sure like to see this assumption of Revcoal's documented.

The readers on this list should note that the great majority
of my own statements do not begin with, "we can guess"
or "presumably", "probably", as Revcoal's are forced to.

In a message dated 99-04-26 07:48:43 EDT, revcoal says:
I can't see any fault with the 911 operators themselves.

Readers, this is just one of June's semantic arguments which
were never the point of discussion in the first place.  The point
was that the 911 dispatch operator's "hide and wait" plan, was
also what we witnessed to be the plan from the police who
patiently waited outside for the gunfire to end.

That is the bottom line.

In a message dated 99-04-26 07:48:43 EDT, revcoal says:
Press conferences are NEVER given to 'unleash facts'...they are
given to 'sell' something those holding the conference wish to provide

We must address this because this was the central issue.

Are the police not offering information because of an ongoing
investigation?  Well of course, yes...and it doesn't take even
a numbskull to figure that one out, and June's presence on
this list has not failed to prove this to be true.

Readers, it is my hope that we understand-- when we agree with
the people who are *actually* covering up their OWN mistakes
under the guise of "not tipping their hand" to future suspects
--as June would have us foolishly believe-- we are part of the
problem and not the solution.

The reason I find Davis' press conference SO disconcerting, is that
the parents of children who were sent to school TODAY, have a right
to know the FACTS that Davis' did not answer.

If there IS another suspect; if there IS reason to believe that there
will be another attack today, the 26th, these 

[CTRL] World War Three Set To Start In July - Nostradamus

1999-04-26 Thread Don Allen

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Source -

http://my.netscape.com/news/OddlyEnough/04_26_1999.reodd-story-bcoddnostrada
mus.html



World War Three Set To Start In July - Nostradamus

CAPE TOWN (Reuters) - World War Three will start in July in the
Balkans, last seven months and end in victory for the U.S.-led North
Atlantic Treaty Organization, according to a new analysis of 16th
century French seer Nostradamus.

"He is clear it will start before the end of the century during the
period of Cancer which is between June 22 and July 23, and in a
triangle bordered by Greece, Italy and Turkey, which is the
Balkans," University of Stellenbosch Professor of Political Science
Willie Breytenbach told Reuters Monday.

"I have to emphasize I am a skeptic. I am an academic who was bored
on a Sunday. But what I found was so chilling that I put pen to
paper," he added.

NATO allies have been bombing targets in Serbia for more than a
month in a so-far abortive effort to force Serbian President
Slobodan Milosevic to stop expelling the ethnic Albanian majority in
the Serbian province of Kosovo.

The air campaign has triggered angry responses from Russia, caused a
biblical exodus of refugees from Kosovo and forced the allies to
contemplate sending in ground forces.

Breytenbach said he found references to the conflict in 18 of the
950 quatrains written by Michel de Notre Dame in 1555 which have
been found to refer to the fire of London, Louis Pasteur and Adolf
Hitler among others.

"In one quatrain he mentions the Slav people. He also mentions war
in the mountains which, taken with what we know and the talk of land
forces, all gelled," he added.

One of the quatrains also mentions a "tyrant" whose name begins
with "M," which could refer to Milosevic.

Another notes that the Serbs will "change their prince," which
Breytenbach took to be a reference to the possible overthrow of the
Serb leader.

In another verse there is a reference to three years and seven
months of peace before the war.

"I suddenly noticed that the Dayton peace accord was signed on
November 21, 1995. Adding three years and seven months to that
brings us to the end of June 1999," Breytenbach said.

The Dayton peace accord, to which Milosevic was a signatory, finally
ended the conflict in Bosnia.

Breytenbach said Nostradamus made several references to the fact
that Greece would be involved in the conflict and that there would
be bloodshed in Turkey. There is also mention of the involvement of
Italy.

There are references to the Alus, which Breytenbach took to refer to
the NATO allies in which the United States is the dominant force,
and the Mabus which he said could refer to Macedonia, Montenegro,
Albania, Bosnia and Serbia.

"He, Nostradamus, is quite clear the war will last seven months and
the ultimate victor will have been born on American soil,"
Breytenbach said.

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[CTRL] Serbs TV HQ Destroyed many innocents massacred by HATO

1999-04-23 Thread Don Allen

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** Forwarded from ralph@teaminfinity **

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Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 22:53:33 -0400
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Subject: SERBS TV HQ DESTROYED  MANY INNOCENTS MASSACRED by HATO
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KOSOVO - NATO - TREPCA GOLD SILVER COAL LEAD ZINC  CADMIUM MINES
TALK about TREPCA TODAY ! http://TeamInfinity.com/~ralph/trepca
WORLD WIDE ANTI-NATO-VIOLENCE RALLIES this WEEKEND DETAILS BELOW
COMMUNIQUE #2120
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US  NATO MASSACRE TV CREWS of SERBS in BELGRADE

Message is clear, from US and HATO, LIFE is CHEAP !
CLINTON tells kids, use words not violence, as HE KILLS !!!
Clinton may soon send many highschoolers to DIE  KILL 
From TiM: Serb TV Knocked Off the Air; Many Civilian Casualties
Reported
BELGRADE, Apr. 22 - NATO's bombing targets have indeed become
amazingly predictable.
Just as we warned yesterday that Serb TV headquarters may become
NATO's next target (see Day 29, Update 1, Item 3, Apr. 21), it
happened today at about 2:00AM Belgrade time (Apr. 23).
Ron Allen, MSNBC correspondent in Belgrade, has just reported
from his hotel in Belgrade that there were apparently "a lot of
civilian casualties, and a huge amount of damage over there."


US and NATO BUTCHERS MASSACRE in COLD BLOOD all personnell in
BELGRADE TV Stations...
"When it comes to my country, it has already become
the world capital of resistance to the domination of
one country's will and interest over the entire
humankind." Milosevic's Wife to BRITISH BASTARDS
Slobodan said, ``Everybody's running away because of
bombing. Serbs, Turks, Gypsy, Muslims, of course.
Albanians their number is biggest. Everybody's running.
Deers are running, birds are running, everybody's
running away because of [HATO] bombing.''
Full contextual quotes below including last Serbian TV report...
19 EVILLY LEAD COUNTRIES GANG RAPING a COUNTRY the SIZE of OHIO
Apparently human lives are worthless to the MAD MEN at the HELM
of NATO, now being called HATO !!! This was ALL pre-planned.
NATO = NAZI AMERICAN TERRORIST ORGANIZATION
From the LAND of supposed FREEDOM of SPEECH, US and NATO have,
as promised, destroyed virtually every RADIO and TV transmitter
in SERBIA, and even killed the brave jounalists and crews
manning those facilities. HATO promised it would if Serbs would
not allow HATO programming to be carried at least 6 hours a day.
HATO followed though on its promise, but who would have thought
they would launch cruise missles into buildings housing
civilians ? It just goes to show how wicked the people running
the show really are.
NEXT STEP, as promised by HATO is to surround TINY SERBIA with
HATO TV and RADIO Transmitters which will pump 24 hour a day
HATO PROPAGANDA. If you doubt this, read below. The
transmitters have already been installed.
Read transcript of LAST transmission on SERBIAN TV below USIA
report:
U.S. LAUNCHES 24-HOUR BROADCASTS TO SERBIA (Transmitters erected
to beam unbiased news) (640) By Charlene Porter USIA Staff
Writer
Washington -- The chairman of the U.S. Broadcasting Board of
Governors (BBG) have announced that the government's
international broadcasters will launch round-the-clock
programming into Yugoslavia starting on April 8.
Chairman Marc Nathanson expressed concern about a "media
blackout" in Yugoslavia and said, "We must get our message to
the Serbian people, and that message is just unbiased news and
information about what is going on in Kosovo and the rest of the
world."
Programming from the Serbian language services of the Voice of
America (VOA) and Radio Free Europe (RFE) will be broadcast into
Yugoslavia via a ring of FM transmitters that is being erected
"at a frantic pace" around the Balkan nation. Nathanson said
VOA and RFE are working with the U.S. Agency for International
Development to put up a transmitter "in an emergency fashion" to
begin broadcasts from a neighboring nation.
The initial broadcasts will be carried on frequency 106.5 FM
MHZ, reaching Belgrade and most of northern Serbia. The
broadcasting board chairman said later expansion of the
broadcasts will allow complete coverage of the country.
Nathanson did not specify from which nation the first broadcasts
are to begin. He said Bosnia, Bulgaria and Romania have entered
agreements with the U.S. to host the transmitter sites. He said
the U.S. State Department is still negotiating with other
nations in the region to win their support for the emergency
broadcasting project.
Ultimately, Nathanson said the government's intent is to build
as many as six or seven transmitters to support the
24-hour-a-day broadcasts to Yugoslavia. The broadcasts will be
delivered in Serbian, as well as some programming in Bosnian,
Croatian, Albanian and English.
Nathanson said that some U.S. government broadcasts are still
being transmitted into Yugoslavia on shortwave 

[CTRL] Excerpt from Space Aliens From The Pentagon

1999-04-23 Thread Don Allen

 -Caveat Lector-

An excerpt from the book, "Space Aliens from the Pentagon"
Subtitle - Flying Saucers Are Man-Made Machines
Author - William R. Lyne, copyright 1993, 1995
Revised and expanded second edition
ISBN 0-9637467-1-5
$17.95
William R. Lyne
Creatopia Productions
Lamy, New Mexico 87540
(505) 466-3022

*** begin excerpt ***

  SYNOPSIS OF FACTS

My book is related to the following list of little-known, officially
suppressed or publically unknown facts:

1. An American citizen (naturalized), Nikola Tesla (an athiest and a
capitalist), invented the flying saucer, before 1900, and reduced it to
practice by 1915.

2. The American government helped the Nazis steal the invention from Tesla
(who hated the Nazis),and by 1937, the Nazis were secretly developing it at
Los Alamos, New Mexico (then called the "p2" project), under the direction
of the Baron Wernher von Braun, who also collaborated in rocket research
with Dr. Robert Goddard at Roswell, funded by the American Rocket
Society (The Smithsonian Institution and the Guggenheim Foundation).

3. The American government later helped Wernher von Braun, the Nazis,
and the Trilateral Commission and Illuminati (who still retain control) remove
the "KT-p2" Projekt ("KT" is for "Kreisel-Teller" [German, for "Gyrating
Plate"], and "p2" is the electronic designation for an "oscillating
electromagnetic dipole") to Germany, after 1937.

4. The Nazis, who attempted to develop and use the flying saucer during the
war (called "Foo-Fighters" by us, "Fireballs" and "Flying Turtles" by them),
were unsuccessful in developing appropriate weapons for it until too late,
and finally traded it back to us during the stalemate of 1945, in exchange
for amnesty for numerous persons (including many war criminals), and for
other concessions and guarantees (many of which are too numerous or
incredible to mention here).

5. The U.S. government (N.S.A., O.S.I.), on behalf of the Trilateral
Commission, continues with and enforces a Nazi-originated "Big Lie"
program, in which it perpetuates the hoax that flying saucers ("U.F.O.s")
are: (a) Extraterrestrial in origin; (b) psychological phenomena ("collective
consciousness archetypal images", ala C. G. Jung); (c) swamp gas; (d)
"free-floating plasmas"; (e) piezo-electric effects; (f) ball-lightning; (g)
other natural phenomena; (h) unknown life forms; (i) hallucinations; (j)
non-existent; (k)hoaxes by attention-seekers; (l)the products of hysteria,
insanity, etc., etc.

6. The German navy surrounded the U.S. with 24 U-boats, armed with (V-6?)
I.C.B.M.s, having celestial guidance systems, and armed with neutron bomb
warheads, trained on key American cities and centers, in a 1945 stalemate;
German Admiral Karl Doenitz negotiated a secret truce and amnesty agreement
with American authorities, under which he was required to order all 24
U-boats "...scuttled, with all hands on board...", under the agreement,
pursuant to which Nazi skippers opened the hatches and the subs and all men
on board went to the bottom. Under Operation Paperclip, all Nazi scientific
research materials, most of their important scientists, and the "KT-p2
Projekt" technology, were transferred to the U.S. and to the Trilateral
Commission corporations, thus attempting to insure that the Illuminati would
retain control of the materials. Certain unusual security procedures were
initiated to insure this, including the "sacrificing" of some major German
scientists to the Soviets, to plant misinformation, and to insure that the
hoax was successful.

7. During the war, German scientists bypassed development of the "atom
bomb", and built and tested the neutron bomb. German field marshall Erwin
Rommel and the Afrika Korps were originally sent to North Africa to test the
neutron bomb, as well as Tesla's "death ray" (which freezes whole armies);
this technology was acquired by American corporations, held chiefly by David
Rockefeller, and was later sold in part back to the U.S. government and
tested in the '60s, and the same technology was again sold to the U.S.
government again in the '70s and '80s, as "star wars" technology.

8. Over 15,000 German military, technical, intelligence, and support
personnel were brought to America (mostly New Mexico-Manzano
Base, Sandia Base, White Sands Missile Range, Alamogordo,
Holloman A.F.B., Los Alamos, etc.) with the "KT-p2" project, in
Sept., 1945, at which time, under Operation Paper Clip, Wernher
von Braun became Director of Research, U.S. Army Ordnance,
Ft. Bliss, Texas; he and his 116 top rocket scientists commenced
rocket (and flying saucer) R. D. at nearby White Sands Missile
Range, and Alamogordo.

9. Howard Hughes "Glomar Explorer" was built to retrieve the 24 scuttled
German U-Boats, before terrorists or unfriendly governments found and
retrieved the subs, missiles, bombs, and related technology, and because
the WW II German U-boats were powered by a type of magnetic-electric
generator (invented by an 

[CTRL] Response to Jim Hickman of Skywatch

1999-04-23 Thread Don Allen

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Jim Hickman wrote:


I personally lost all respect for these groups on April 19, 1995, at 9:02am,
When I was dispatched to the Murrah Building in Oklahoma City, as part of
the rescue team, to clean up the mess a "Militia Group" made to our state. I
hope you can understand my reasoning, I don't want to ever have to pick
through debris for body parts again.

However, I will gladly contact the person(s) who posts such articles ISP
provider, and their local police department and/or the FBI for further
action if these posts don't quit TODAY.

Please consider this a legal notice to quit.


The government would never lie to you, nor would the CIA and OSI
lie about UFO's. It's only swamp gas. There is no UFO cover-up.
The CIA has never been involved in drug running. Clinton never
inhaled. There is no "secret government". Los Alamos never
worked on Tesla's stolen UFO propulsion system. Janet Reno
didn't give orders to barbecue children at the Waco compound,
since she wanted to "save them". Roswell was only "crash
dummies". The government would never spray dangerous chemicals
into the atmosphere to harm us. There is no "tri-lateral commission"
and the meeting of the Bilderberg group in Spain in June is just
the rantings of overheated conspiracy buffs. HAARP is a benevolent
endeavor to "balance" the earth. Faster than Light travel is not possible.
Our Physics textbooks are sacred and are never wrong. Science is
our God and is never ever incorrect. Lee Harvey Oswald single-handedly
assassinated Kennedy. There was never any conspiracy. President
Clinton is always right in his decisions and would never undermine
our freedom. He was only being "gracious and polite" to the Red
Chinese regime. He would never sell his office for re-election funds.
His decision to bomb the Serbs MUST BE obeyed and supported by
every red-blooded American. After all, War is Peace. Never challenge
authority. Don't think for yourself, when the Government can tell you
what is always right. The ATF and IRS are our friends, and must be
obeyed. There was no "cover-up" on the Murrah bombing. ATF agents
would never plant explosives. Timothy McVeigh brought down the
whole building with a truck full of fertilizer. There is no cover-up. Don't
bother to investigate, since the government has already done so
and it would be a waste of your time. The government would never lie
to you. They only have your best interest at heart. There is no "new
world order". There is no UFO cover-up. There are no UFO's. It's
only ball lightning and Venus. Y2K is not a problem. Your life will
go on un-interrupted. Don't stock up food or water. The government
will take care of you. Trust the government. Listen to Clinton. Obey
the authorities. Always believe CNN. Ken Starr is evil and has an
agenda against Clinton. The Democrats always know best. Guns
are bad and should be banned. There is no need for guns. The United
Nations is looking after your good, as an obedient servant of the People.

There is no conspiracy.

Trust the government.

There is no UFO cover-up.

Believe The USAF. Roswell never happenned. It was only a radar balloon.

The CIA always supports the Constitution and would never meddle
in the affairs of foreign countries.

Obey the government.

Pay your taxes. Always obey the Law.

Go back to sleep and don't worry. You will be taken care of...by
your government and they will reward you well.

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Re: [CTRL] Clinton Helped China Defeat the US in WWIII

1999-04-22 Thread Don Allen

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At 04:21 AM 4/22/99 -0400, Das GOAT wrote:

``Measures to protect sensitive nuclear weapons information must be
constantly scrutinized,'' Clinton said in a statement.

I didn't want anyone to miss this precious gem. This lying sackashit
holds up the Cox Report because he doesn't want _his_ treason
"constantly scrutinized".

I need a barf bag.


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[CTRL] Beware of outcome-based-education

1999-04-22 Thread Don Allen

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Source - http://www.best.com/~jdulaney/obe2-26.html

BEWARE Of outcome-based Education by [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The latest buzzword in public school circles is "Outcome Based Education."
Of all the horrendous teaching gimmicks, from the new math to open
classrooms, inflicted on our children in recent years, OBE may be the
absolute worst. I saw a bumper sticker recently that summed it up concisely:
"Educators don't experiment on lab animals, they use children."

OBE is a last desperate attempt by the public education establishment and
its apologists to protect its monopoly. It promises utopian reform to
reverse the unmistakable decline in the quality of instruction in recent
years under the stewardship of the very same kind of people who now profess
to have the answer.

Actually, OBE isn't even a new idea. It's merely a warmed-over version of
Dr. Benjamin Bloom's experiment with something called "mastery learning,"
which was tried and failed in the Chicago schools 15 years ago. It's a
behaviorist notion with a political agenda rife with social engineering and
biased against individualism.

Today's OBE gurus include social engineer like Theodore Sizer and Robert
Muller, intent on preparing our children for a New Age of Globalism. The
curriculum is laden with touchy-feely behavioral modification exercises,
trendy liberal values and a pervasive bias toward a collectivist approach to
social interaction. Educrats call the "affective" learning, geared toward
emotions, feelings and behavior, as opposed to traditional "cognitive"
learning, focusing on basics such as history, literature, math and science.
The OBE virus has quietly infiltrated public schools all over country, in
varying degrees and under a variety of names.

(Private schools don't seem very interested in it. You don't suppose there's
a message there?)

In Pennsylvania, where OBE is state law, students must achieve 51 "learning
outcomes" to earn high school diplomas.

For example: "All students explore and articulate in writing and speech,
the similarities and differences among varied cultural values and the
contributions of diverse cultural programs." "All students relate in
writing, speech or other media, the history and nature of various forms of
prejudice to current problems facing communities and nations." "all
students relate basic human development theories to care- giving and
child-care strategies." All students develop interpersonal
communication, decision- making, coping and evaluation skills and apply them
to personal, family and community living."

You get the idea. It is just this kind of OBE program that Clinton is now
endorsing in the frightening "Goals 2000", and it has Ted Sizer's
fingerprints all over it.

My basic objections to OBE are

1) I'm not willing to divert limited time available in school to these kinds
of vague, social engineering projects at the expense of essential academic
courses, and

2) I don't particularly want my kids indoctrinated with answers educated
liberals deem "politically correct."

What it points up is the basic fallacy in the premise upon which centralized
public education rests; Consensus. These is no consensus i public education
today. And it is unreasonable to think that there can or ought to be.
Different parents want different things for their kids. Rather than forcing
back-to-basics parents into the OBE mold or vice versa, why not let them
choose from a myriad of options? Liberals are pro-choice right? So let us
choose.

Fundamental academics, OBE, letter grades on report cards, self esteem
touchy-feeliness, sex education, condom distribution, multiculteralism,
involuntary community service, individualism, collectivism, competition,
cooperation, sports, music, etc. It's futile to craft a district curriculum
with the right mix of all these things and more. Why not, instead, let a
thousand flowers bloom? Continue to fund public education through taxes, but
let parents select the curriculum they want, delivered in the public or
private school of their choice. This is called a voucher system. It's an
idea whose time is rapidly coming. Choice.

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[CTRL] Jerry Black's Update on Whitley Strieber

1999-04-22 Thread Don Allen

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Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 17:50:49 -0400
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Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 15:10:00 -0500
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Glenn Joyner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Black's Update on Whitley Strieber


Jerry Black recently made an offer to Whitley Strieber. He got
no response. Jerry has asked that this update be sent to the
list. Thanks,  GJ


Update On Whitley Strieber

On January 4, 1999, I placed an extensive 4 1/2 month review of
the various books of Whitley Strieber [which concerned his
encounters with “The Visitors”] on the internet. This review
included his latest book, “Confirmation.”

In this report, I offered Mr. Strieber and his wife, Anne, the
opportunity to take a properly sponsored polygraph test. I had
agreed to not only bring the polygraph expert to them at their
home in San Antonio, Texas, but to pay for all the expenses
incurred for both polygraph tests, transportation and other
related expenses. I stated in this report that Mr. Whitley
Strieber would need to respond by February 4, 30-days from the
time it appeared on the internet.

When nothing was heard from Mr. Whitley Strieber within this
30-day period, I decided to also ‘priority-mail’ a copy of this
report directly to his address to ensure that he received the
report. This report was mailed to Mr. Strieber on January 18,
and he should have received it on January 20.

As of writing this report on April 10, 1999, I have not received
any reply from Mr. Strieber concerning any willingness to take
this third-party sponsored polygraph test. As I have stated
earlier, all of Mr. Strieber’s previous polygraph tests that he
mentions in his books were either self-sponsored or given by
people who had an interest in his passing these tests.

I was trying to give Mr. Strieber the opportunity -if indeed his
account is a factual one- to take a properly sponsored polygraph
test which would go a long way in helping to support his claims
of encounters with the visitors.

My fairness and objectivity in giving these tests certainly
cannot be questioned. As of this date, I have offered polygraph
tests in four separate UFO-related cases. In two of those cases,
the Travis Walton abduction and the Casey County, Kentucky
Incident, those participants agreed to take the tests and all
parties passed the polygraph examinations that I administered to
them. In the Liberty, Kentucky abduction, the participants were
Mona Stafford, Elaine Thomas and Louise Smith. The test was
administered by Mr. James Young who, at that time, was the
president of The Polygraph Association of Kentucky. Likewise,
more recently, Travis Walton, Mike Rogers and Allen Dallas all
agreed to take polygraph tests that were offered to them, and
all three passed. In the early 90’s, I offered a polygraph test
-on two different occasions- to Ed Walters. On both occasions,
Mr. Walters has done just what Whitley Strieber has done by not
acknowledging my offer for a properly sponsored polygraph test.

Inasmuch as Mr. Strieber and his wife Anne have refused to
respond to my request for the polygraph test -and lacking any
evidence whatsoever to support his numerous claims of encounters
with visitors, it is my opinion that Mr. Whitley Strieber has
perpetrated a massive hoax on not only the UFO community, but
against the American people.

For someone with the writing skills of Mr. Strieber to
perpetrate a hoax of this magnitude is certainly unforgivable.
Because of Mr. Strieber’s experience as a well known
science-fiction writer, he has the ability to make his words
more realistic, more interesting and more believable.

Whitley Strieber has been called a ‘contactee’ by Art Bell,
because of his alleged encounters with the visitors during the
middle and late 80’s. The contactee, because of his numerous
experiences, affords the UFO researcher an opportunity to set-up
motion detection equipment, cameras, tape recorders and other
instruments to try and document the incident on audiotape or
film. There is even the hope that staying overnight at the
alleged contactees home may result in a personal experience with
the alleged visitors. I am personally unaware of any case with
Mr. Strieber where any UFO researchers were able to obtain any
documentation or evidence to confirm the alleged encounters with
these visitors.

The reasons that no information is obtainable from any of these
contactees varies from case to case. In some instances, the
alleged contactee -while allowing the equipment to be placed in
his home for long periods of time- claims that the encounters
stopped because, in his opinion, the visitors [or
extraterrestrial beings] knew that the equipment was there. In
other cases, the subject would 

[CTRL] Michael C. Ruppert - High Noon

1999-04-22 Thread Don Allen

 -Caveat Lector-

Source - http://www.copvcia.com/high_noon.htm


HIGH NOON

In the 1950s classic western about honor and conformity, fear and courage,
Marshal Gary Cooper faces a murderous gang of killers all by himself while a
town, paralyzed by fear, does nothing to help. Cooper risks not only his
life but the love of Grace Kelly and does what honor, and a higher moral
compass require of him. The spineless town, which had hired him to do for
them what they would not do for themselves, vacillates, cringes and waffles.
Cooper, terrified and abandoned, faces the gunmen alone. At the end of the
movie the killers are dead but there is no resolution. The only thing that
remains is an empty street awaiting the next group of bandits. There is no
Marshal, no hero, no martyr. He has left in disgust, happily for him, with
Grace by his side, his badge lying in the dust. There is nothing there
worthy of sacrifice.

The San Jose Mercury News reported, on November 22, that hearings in the
House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HPSCI) will take place
sometime in mid to late January on Volume II of the CIA Inspector General's
report on Contra drug trafficking. The Mercury calls the pending hearings,
Congress' "final look" at the issue. With those hearings every issue raised
by Gary Webb's stories and all the efforts of many men and women, for
decades, will be laid to rest. There will be no more chances in our
lifetimes. The matter will be officially closed.

I offer you two scenarios. Scenario One: Moved by a massive outcry from the
public and enormous pressure on the news media, HPSCI holds well publicized
hearings, with advance publicity, and calls Gary Webb, Cele Castillo, Mike
Levine, Mike Ruppert, Dee Ferdinand, Danillo Blandon, Oliver North, John
Poindexter, Robert Gates, Alan Fiers and a dozen others as witnesses. The
hearings result in a massive public outcry and Congress, faced with
overwhelming evidence of CIA wrongdoing, condemns the Agency and opens
the door for reparations, abolition of CIA, and long overdue reforms in our
criminal justice system.

Scenario Two: Due to the fact that no public interest was expressed, HPSCI
holds sudden hearings, which are covered only by C-SPAN with no notice. The
witness list is short and limited only to Fred Hitz, George Tenet and Maxine
Waters. The major media does not cover the hearings live and brief spots on
the evening news report only that CIA was sloppy and received a minor
wrist-slapping for its association with drug dealers during the Contra war
years. Vague recommendations are made that the CIA undertake a review of
its procedures with no time-specific period for completion. The matter is
closed. As CIA apologist David Korn of The Nation has predicted - "CIA gets
away with it." The bandits all head for the saloon to get more whiskey,
women and song. The town is doomed. Each citizen returns to hoping that
someone else will be the next victim.

There's a time for reading, for learning, and for waiting. There's also a
time for doing. The scenario, which plays out in January, is entirely up to
you. Make no mistake about the stakes. As reported by Alex Cockburn in his
book Whiteout, New York Times reporter Keith Schneider wrote in 1987 that,
"such a story could shatter the Republic." If you believe that life cannot
exist without the Republic then do nothing. If you believe that life rests
on something more fundamental and pure then get off your behind and do
something - now. CIA is still dealing drugs and if they are not challenged
then the saloon door, the entire town and you are standing wide open. With
what has been revealed in Volume II we will never have a chance like this
again.

Throw Your Weight Around!

FROM THE GOVERNMENT WE WANT:

1. Disqualification of retired CIA covert operative J. Porter Goss as
Chairman of the House Permanent Select committee on Intelligence before
any hearings on grounds of conflict of interest.

2. Adequate public notice in advance of the hearings so that the press may
cover them.

3. Testimony from all relevant witnesses including Celerino Castillo, Mike
Levine, Rick Horn, Mike Ruppert, Bob Parry and Gary Webb.


GOVERNMENT CONTACTS

THE WHITE HOUSE
President William Clinton, 1600 Pennsylvania Ave., Washington, D.C. 20500.
202-456-1414
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

THE SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

The Hon. Dennis Hastert, 2406 Rayburn, Washington,
D.C. 20515, 202-225-3015
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HOUSE PERMANENT SELECT COMMITTEE ON INTELLIGENCE
Rm H-405, US Capitol, Wash., D.C. 20515
Phone 202-225-4121. FAX 202-225-1991
SENATE SELECT COMMITTEE ON INTELLIGENCE

Room 211, Hart Bldg., Washington, D.C., 20510.
Phone 202-224-1700. FAX 202-224-1772

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TO FIND YOUR MEMBER OF THE HOUSE of REPRESENTATIVES
call the House 

[CTRL] CIA Drugs Fact Sheet

1999-04-22 Thread Don Allen

 -Caveat Lector-

Source - http://www.copvcia.com/factsheet.htm

IRAN-CONTRA ERA
C.I.A.  DRUGS FACT SHEET

[]"Without the Honduran military there would have been no Contras. $14
million [to finance arms] came from drugs." [through Honduras.] - Oliver
North's diary 7/5/85.- Oliver North then intervened to get an absurdly
lenient sentence for General Jose Bueso-Rosa, convicted of smuggling
tons of cocaine into the U.S.

[]"We don't need to investigate [C.I.A.'s role in drug dealing]. We already
know. The evidence is there." - Jack Blum, former Chief Counsel to John
Kerry's Subcommittee on Narcotics and Terrorism in 1996 Senate Hearings. -
The Medellin Cartel gave more than $10 million to the contras.

[]"In my 30 year history in DEA, the major targets of my investigations
almost invariably turned out to be working for the CIA." - Dennis Dayle,
Chief of an elite DEA unit in Central America.

[]"With respect to [drug trafficking by] the resistance forces... it is not
a couple of people. It is a lot of people." - Alan Fiers former CIA deputy
for Central American ops.

[]FOUR FIRMS LISTED BY DEA AS MAJOR SMUGGLING
OPERATIONS WERE ON CIA's LIST OF APPROVED VENDORS
AND EACH RECEIVED HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF
DOLLARS IN STATE DEPARTMENT SUBSIDIES WHILE
THEY WERE DEALING DRUGS: DIACSA - SETCO - VORTEX
- FRIGORIFICOS DE PUNTARENAS.

[]Miguel Felix Gallardo and Rafael Caro-Quintero supplied the contras with
guns and money. Caro ran a Contra training camp in Veracruz. Together they
smuggled 4 tons of cocaine a month into the U.S. Both were later tied to the
murder of DEA agent Kiki Camarena.

[]THESE ARE SOME OF THE PILOTS WHO FLEW DRUGS ON
CIA PROTECTED FLIGHTS INTO THE U.S.:

[]Michael Palmer * Werner Stoltz * Floyd Carlton * Bill Cooper * Tosh
Plumley * Marcos Aguado * Bo Abbott * Gerardo Duran * Pat Foley *
Frank Moss * Tito Carrasco * Barry Seal * John Allen * Cesar Rodriguez
* Teofilo Watson * Alfredo Caballero * Gary Betzner

[]CIA FUNDED AIRLINES CONNECTED WITH DRUG OR WEAPONS
SMUGGLING:

[]So. Air Transport * SETCO * EVERGREEN * Hondu Carib * Arrow Air

[]IN A COURT OF LAW THE STRONGEST FORM OF DIRECT
EVIDENCE IS TESTIMONY BY EYEWITNESSES. THE FOLLOWING
ARE EYEWITNESSES TO CIA DRUG TRAFFICKING WHO HAVE
NEVER BEEN ALLOWED TO TESTIFY:

[]Celerino Castillo (DEA) * Michael Ruppert (LAPD)* Mike Levine (DEA) * Bill
Tyree (Spl forces) * John Mattes (Fed. Pub Defender) * Dee Ferdinand * Jack
Terrell (Contra supporter) * Anabelle Grimm (DEA) Brad Ayers (DEA) * Bo
Abbott (Air America) * Tosh Plumley (CIA) * Ralph McGehee (CIA) * Lt Col. Bo
Gritz (ret.) (US Army Spl. Forces) * Dr. David Sabow, MD (brother of
murdered Marine Col. Jim Sabow) *Dois G. (Chip) Tatum (CIA) * Gene
Wheaton (Army CID)



Michael C. Ruppert
P.O. Box 6061-350, Sherman Oaks, CA 91413
* (818)788-8791 * fax(818)981-2847 *
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 © COPYRIGHT 1998, 1999, MICHAEL C. RUPPERT.
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Re: [CTRL] Jerry Black's Update on Whitley Strieber

1999-04-22 Thread Don Allen

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At 09:57 PM 4/22/99 -0700, Steve Wingate wrote:

 Inasmuch as Mr. Strieber and his wife Anne have refused to
 respond to my request for the polygraph test -and lacking any
 evidence whatsoever to support his numerous claims of encounters
 with visitors, it is my opinion that Mr. Whitley Strieber has
 perpetrated a massive hoax on not only the UFO community, but
 against the American people.

This is silly. And do you believe that everyone who does not agree to take
your test is a liar and a hoax?

Now, _here_ is really silly -

"I would like everyone to pay very close attention to this next
statement: Whitley Strieber charged that the host of the show
was bound to misrepresent his experience by saying they were
‘alien visitors,’ which he never -at that time- claimed to know
if these visitors were extraterrestrial. Whitley Strieber went
on to say: {“Those people who claim alien encounters are just as
crazy as CSICOP.”}  (bracketed emphasis mine - Don)

Strieber can't make up his mind. He's vague, then blows off ufology
in a huff several years back, leaves his abduction support groups
hanging and splits. He shows back up, with new books in hand, changes
his mind about his experiences, says they're real. I believe Jerry Black makes
good points in his post. Strieber is entirely free to ignore Black, but why
not take up his challenge if he doesn't have anything to hide? Travis
Walton took up the challenge with Black and passed, so obviously he
didn't have any reason to hide anything.

Because of his writing, Strieber has put himself very much into the public eye,
including his UFO production on TV just recently. Does this mean that no one
can ask for proof of his claims without being considered  "silly"? 200 cases?!
Strieber has a history of throwing hissy fits when asked to provide proof of
his abduction claims. Self-administered polygraph tests don't prove the
veracity
of his claims. If these abduction events happenned to *me*, you can darn sure
bet I would ask for independent tests, even invite people in with equipment to
monitor my living environment to get some sort of proof. Beyond proving it to
others, first I'd want to prove it to myself.

Asking for proof is not a bad thing, Steve. Travis Walton didn't back down from
Phil Klass one bit. He wrote a substantial list of questions for Klass to
respond
to and Klass couldn't make his claim(s) that Travis had made up the whole thing
to get out of the logging contract BS, stick.

Don



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Re: [CTRL] Kenn Thomas on Art Bell

1999-04-21 Thread Don Allen

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At 09:31 PM 4/20/99 -0500, Kenn Thomas wrote:
 -Caveat Lector-

Don:

I'm not actually on the show with Art, but his substitute Hillly Rose. Put
me in
touch with Gary Aldrich.

Send email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Robin Rosen. Although he/she (hard to
tell the gender here) schedules interviews with Aldrich, they could probably
tell you how to get on his radio show. Also Robin can be contacted at
703-758-0311, as well. Aldrich has a web page at http://www.garyaldrich.com

His radio show can be found at:

http://www.talkspot.com/shows/Gary_Aldrich_Show/ - Weekdays 8 AM - 9 AM PT

Aldrich was the FBI agent who blew the whistle on the sordid goings-on of
the Clinton White House staff, in his book, "Unlimited Access". This was one
of the few books that once I started, couldn't put down until I finished it. A
complete
mindblower.

Aldrich recently had an interview with Guy Bannister, the ex-IRS CID agent who
went
over the wall. Ve interesting.

Don


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Re: [CTRL] Kenn Thomas on Art Bell

1999-04-21 Thread Don Allen

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At 05:40 PM 4/21/99 -0700, MICHAEL SPITZER wrote:
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"Fart Smell" has MANY MORE millions of listeners...I mean
REALLY?!?!

There's no shortage of gullible people in this country.


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Re: [CTRL] Serb Terrorists Attack School?

1999-04-20 Thread Don Allen

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At 02:59 PM 4/20/99 -0500, Brian Redman wrote:
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Black trenchcoats? Grenade launcher? This sounds like
more than the average Manchurian candidate set loose.
Will the gunmen turn out to be "Serb terrorists"?

Are we having fun yet?

I'm watching this sordid episode live on Denver channel 9. The Swat
team just went in and dozens of students poured out of the school building.
Some students jumped into the back of a police cruiser and took off real fast.
It appears about 18 students have been shot/injured, thus far, some
shot with _shotguns_, as spoken by a spokesperson at one of the area
hospitals. The three _trenchcoat_  gunmen are still in the Columbine
High School.


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Re: [CTRL] Serb Terrorists Attack School?

1999-04-20 Thread Don Allen

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At 04:50 PM 4/20/99 -0400, Jim Yester wrote:
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In a message dated 4/20/99 3:59:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:


  Black trenchcoats? Grenade launcher? This sounds like
  more than the average Manchurian candidate set loose.
  Will the gunmen turn out to be "Serb terrorists"?

  Are we having fun yet?

  Brian Redman
  Editor, CNNS

No we're not having any fun at all. And if we keep bombing nations du jour
without just cause or provocation, that's precisely what we can expect.

Channel 9 news in Denver is reporting (grain of salt time) that the shooters
are students at the school. Still some confusion at this point about the exact
number of students shot/injured. No fatalities reported. One report was
of a girl who was shot 8 times.

Who wants to take bets that someone will put pressure on increasing
gun control measures because of this shooting?



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Re: [CTRL] Kenn Thomas on Art Bell

1999-04-20 Thread Don Allen

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At 04:41 PM 4/20/99 -0500, Kenn Thomas wrote:
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Hi, CTRL!

Hilly Rose is having me on the Art Bell show tonight from 1AM to 5AM Central
Standard Time. There's a link to Bell at the Steamshovel site
(http://www.umsl.edu/~skthoma), plus news of my next lecture, Wayne
Henderson on
Kalifornia prisons, Acharya S on the X-rated Bible--a general update of the
site.
I haven't had a chance to do that for a while becuase I've been working on a
new
Gemstone book.

I wish you success on the new Gemstone book. However, I MUST question
your sanity for appearing on the Art Bell show. Are you that desparate
for exposure? Bell is a certifiable idiot, a liar and a front line shill for
the
NWO.  Why don't you appear on Gary Aldrich's radio show instead? At
least Aldrich has credibility, something that Fart Smell will never have.




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[CTRL] A Yugoslav who made a difference

1999-04-19 Thread Don Allen

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Nikola Tesla, a natural-born citizen of Belgrade, Yugoslavia. In
my not so humble opinion, probably the greatest Genius of
this century, far surpassing Steinmetz, Edision, Marconi
and Einstein.

Had Edision had his way, we would have been on the DC
system with step-up generators every 5-6 miles, throughout
the country. Thank God for the vision of George Westinghouse,
who fully supported Tesla and his 60 cycle AC power generation.

Had Tesla not be thwarted by the ilk of J.P. Morgan,
we would have long ago experienced real "free-energy"
by his inventions. It is claimed that when Tesla died in the
middle 40's, agents of the "federal government" came and
carted away trunks full of his writings and plans, lest they
fall into the hands of the common person and they freed
themselves from the influences of the evil bankers, oil
interests and power elite statists.

Author, William R. Lynn, in his book, "Space Aliens from
the Pentagon" (Creatopia Productions, Lamy, NM, 87540,
$17.95, 505-466-3022 ) makes a compelling case that
Tesla was the original inventor behind a _workable_
propulsion system for a UFO, that was known about and
actually pilfered by the German rocket scientists, prior
to the allies capturing Berlin in 1945.  To confuse and
throw people off the trail, the author alleges that the
CIA/OSS engaged in a program to create revisionist
history that the German's had their own UFO program,
which if anyone has bothered to look at it, was mostly
crap that wouldn't have ever amounted to anything. The
author draws several ( and in my opinion, very correct)
conclusions about the reasons why the Tesla connection was
covered up, since Operation Paperclip was underway with
the melding of the German intelligence ops with the then
formed CIA/OSI. Essentially, The U.S. brought over legions
of German scientists, NAZI's over to our country, and Canada
right after the conclusion of WWII, and put them immediately into
"service", possibly to work on producing UFOs with Tesla's
technology, for the Secret Government. This might well the
real reason for the National Security Act being passed by
Truman, in 1947. In short, it seems to me that this act by
Truman constitutes an illegal betrayal of American sovreignty
and liberty to hide a technology that only the Secret Government
wanted to themselves.

The book makes some excellent points, ties together quite a few
loose ends and I'd highly recommend it to anyone looking to
put together large portions of the "UFO puzzle". Lynn is an
inventor in his own right and goes to some detailed lengths
to explain the propulsion system of Tesla, included in his book.

Here's some links to Nikola Tesla, a Yugoslav who made a
difference in our world. Think about him the next time you
flip on a light, turn on a radio or watch your TV. Without
him, none of it would have been made possible. If our illegal
government could get away with it totally, they would surely
write Tesla out of history and dismiss him as some crank.


Don

--- begin links --


Nikola Tesla, Complete U.S. Patent Collection
http://www.mall-usa.com/BPCS/tesla.html

Nikola Tesla (1856-1943)
http://www.asap.unimelb.edu.au/hstm/data/62.htm

In Search of Nikola Tesla
http://alldirect.com/book.cfm?CartID=276539390021798isbn=185398020X

frank_germano's_webpageTesla Technology today
http://www.frank.germano.com/default.htm

Nikola Tesla, Complete U.S. Patent Collection
http://www.mall-usa.com/BPCS/

American Society of Dowsers Bookstore: Nikola Tesla
http://newhampshire.com/dowsers.org/catalog97/btesla.htm

Nikola Tesla Books
http://www.nickf.com/teslabooks.html

Who 2: Nikola Tesla Profile
 http://www.who2.com/nikolatesla.html

Nikola Tesla: related WWW links
http://www.neuronet.pitt.edu/~bogdan/tesla/links.htm

Nikola Tesla: Tesla Memorial Society, Inc.
http://www.neuronet.pitt.edu/~bogdan/tesla/society.htm

Nikola Tesla
http://userwww.sfsu.edu/~rsauzier/Tesla.html

AAA The Nikola Tesla Resources
http://www.icorp.net/users/kev/tesla/

Pennsylvania Department: Nikola Tesla Program: 9 October 1996
http://www.clpgh.org/exhibit/tesla.html

Penna. Dept.: Nikola Tesla: A Man Out of Time
http://www.clpgh.org/exhibit/tesla2.html

Penna. Dept.: Nikola Tesla: Superman at the Waldorf
http://www.clpgh.org/exhibit/tesla7.html

Penna. Dept.: Nikola Tesla: Forgotten Genius
http://www.clpgh.org/exhibit/tesla9.html

Penna. Dept.: Nikola Tesla: Westinghouse Museum
http://www.clpgh.org/exhibit/whous5.html

The Nikola Tesla Web Site
http://www.tesla.org/

Home Page Univerzitetske biblioteke "Nikola Tesla" - Nis
http://ni.ac.yu/Bibl/

Books of Nikola Tesla
http://www.borderlands.com/catalog/tesla.htm

82 Documents about 'Tesla'
http://www.loop.com/~rgraham/tesla.html

Nikola Tesla - Man Out of Time
http://www.nickf.com/tesla.htm

Nikola Tesla: Acknowledgments
http://www.neuronet.pitt.edu/~bogdan/tesla/ack.htm

Nikola Tesla: Niagara Falls

[CTRL] Fwd: UFO UpDate: The Vatican And UFOs

1999-04-19 Thread Don Allen

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Dear Researchers,

Last Saturday and Sunday I was in Ancona, here in Italy, for a
National UFO Conference.

I had the chance to interview Monsignor Corrado Balducci, famous
priest of Vatican that is studying UFOs.

He said to me that he is working only for a personal interest
and his involvement in UFO study is by Vatican command.

We know that Balducci is involved in the Third Secret of Fatima.
Most of you know that there is a test that is circulating by 25
years but was never confermed officially. To my question about
the test of Third Secret of Fatima, Balducci said:


"Yes, that test is correct. The Secret speaks about a Third
World War before the end of this millenium that will be a fight
with nuclear weapons. The living people will envy the dead,
probably for the sufferings of radiation. The secret speaks also
of a doctrinal crisis of the Christian Church. But that the
events will be happen only if the Humanity don't mend and don't
change their violent minds".


This is the first time that the Third Secret Of Fatima has been
confirmed by a member of Vatican.

With me there was Paola Harris.

Adriano Forgione
editor in Chief of UFO Network and Dossier Alieni


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Re: [CTRL] A Yugoslav who made a difference

1999-04-19 Thread Don Allen

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At 01:29 AM 4/20/99 -0400, Colleen Jones wrote:

Thomas Alva Edison and Tesla?  Well  when you consider ARCO oil is using
his work to destroy our country through this insane Weather Program,
brining on the torndoes, hurricanesdrought in Florida burningno
kiddingthese people are now going to further use the weather, as a
weapon, as they did in Viet Nm to bring on the monsoons six months
early.

Tempertures going up at night; artificial lightning and earthquakes;
give me Edison the Man.lets bury Tesla and his destructive side.
Colleen

Tesla did not create HAARP, nor is it of his doing. Unfortunately, there
are those ignorant people who insist that he did. They are wrong, wrong,
wrong.

Edison was above all, an opportunist and a copy cat. The falling out
between him and Tesla was documented in "Tesla: Man out of Time",
by Margaret Cheney. Edison viewed Tesla's brilliant genius as a direct
threat to his DC system. He was a cheapskate - he made an offer to Tesla
if he would re-design his dynamos, he would pay him handomely. When Tesla
finished, he reneged and offered Tesla a paltry increase in salary. Tesla
walked out.


The Smithsonian believes strongly in revisonist history. See the
url - http://www.cris.com/~Jwwagner/ . No credit whatsoever to
Tesla, yet Edison is revered as a god. There are people that believe
that Marconi invented radio, but they are wrong too. Patents don't
lie.

I'm a native Floridian and just recently moved to Colorado. I know all
about the drought in Florida, and the fires. I was there in Orlando
last year traveling back and forth to Flagler Beach, Daytona and to
Titusville. I drove through smoke so thick, you couldn't see 10 feet
in front of you, on both 1-4 near Deland, and I-95 near Titusville.
The fires have come earlier this year, since La Nina has moved the
jetstream around and not enough moisture has moved down to Florida
and Georgia yet. However, come June, Florida will get an afternoon
thunderboomer.

Don


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Re: [CTRL] A Yugoslav who made a difference

1999-04-19 Thread Don Allen

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At 01:29 AM 4/20/99 -0400, Colleen Jones wrote:

Thomas Alva Edison and Tesla?  Well  when you consider ARCO oil is using
his work to destroy our country through this insane Weather Program,
brining on the torndoes, hurricanesdrought in Florida burningno
kiddingthese people are now going to further use the weather, as a
weapon, as they did in Viet Nm to bring on the monsoons six months
early.

A relevant excerpt from William R. Lyne's book, "Space Aliens from
the Pentagon".

Pages 17-18

--- begin excerpt ---

In 1940, (Wm. L. Laurence, New York Times, Sept 22, 1940), Tesla
announced his _Teleforce_ (italics), consisting of four _already tested_
inventions, as follows:

"(1) A means of producing rays in the free air without a vacuum;
 (2) a method off producing a very great electrical force;
 (3) a method of amplifying this electrical force; and
 (4) a new method for producing a tremendous electrical _propelling_
force."

To show you how insidious the mis-informationalists are, and how easy it is for
them to dupe 'sensation-addicts', there have several recent instances where
the misinformation regarding the four listed inventions, from the original 1940
New York Times article, has been repeated, based on an original "patent",
in which the misrepresentations were originally made in a sly and oblique
way that few would suspect, right under the noses of the "Tesla experts". The
four inventions were already tested at the time, and (4) was a propelling
force. Anyone who ran down the original article to examine it as I did, would
know that.

Among the several places I have discovered this misrepresentation, was a
so-called "patent" on HAARP (High Frequency Auroral Research Project).
The only purpose for such a fraudulent misrepresentation would be for the
explicit purpose of misrepresenting the original Tesla material, to those
studying Tesla's work, because it represented one of the few 'unretrieved'
leaks of Tesla's discovery of the flying saucer propulsion system. The patent,
(No. 4,686,605, issued to Bernard J. Eastlund, Spring, Texas, 1983) is
now owned by Arco Power Technologies, Inc., under which they are to
perform some "top secret" tests for the government, from the North Slope
of Alaska, and was alleged to be one of three patents previously locked
up under a Navy security order. To begin with, patents are not issued on
inventions primary to secret projects. Whatever the real purpose of the
HAARP project, you can bet your booties it isn't what they say it is.
Secondly, the real purpose  of planting the false particulars of the 'patent'
in publications read by 'alternative researchers', was to obscure and
misrepresent Tesla's discovery of the ether propulsion system used on
flying saucers.

And who is ARCO? (Atlantic Richfield Oil Company) was created by Trilateral
Commission member Robert O. Anderson, of Roswell, New Mexico, the creator
of  Diamond A Cattle Company, the largest holding company in North America,
which owns all known oil shale deposits in North America, and almost all
mineral rights in the North Slope of Alaska. ARCO moved to garner a monopoly
on solar and alternate energy resources after the "fuel crisis" of 1974.

The misinformation placed in the 'patent' was repeated (NEXUS Magazine,
April-May 1995 - Extraordinary Science, Jan-Feb-Mar, 1995) just precisely
where it shouldn't have been, but just precisely  where the Secret Government
wanted it. Once something like this gets started, where does it stop? Those
who should have known better, did nothing to stop it. Where the ball goes,
nobody knows. We cannot allow this Trilateralist misrepresentation of Tesla's
work to go unchallenged.

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Re: [CTRL] American People Ruled Unfit To Govern

1999-04-18 Thread Don Allen

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At 05:04 PM 4/18/99 -0400, Bill Richer wrote:
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Joe:
  Some jokes are too serious.  After a president doing what he did with
Monica in the White House and giving secrets to China and probably Russia
this article was believable!  Yet as I said before it is said that Onion does
satires!

It was a good satire..at least it got some of you going,  and it definately got
your attention.

As far as satires go..it didn't seem to me to be that far off the mark. As a
nation,
we're far more concerned as to what the sports scores are, than finding out
what's going on in our own government.


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[CTRL] Power firms face Y2K woes

1999-04-17 Thread Don Allen

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Source - http://cnnfn.com/digitaljam/9904/16/y2k_electricity/

Report says power utilities lag in Y2K readiness - Apr. 16, 1999


Power firms face Y2K woes
GAO report says nearly half of electric utilities will miss preparation
deadline
Countdown to Y2K
April 16, 1999: 3:39 p.m. ET


Senators chide gov't on Y2K contingency plans - Apr. 14, 1999
FAA to test air-traffic control systems for Y2K - Apr. 5, 1999

General Accounting Office

NEW YORK (CNNfn) - The nation's electric power utilities have completed
only 44 percent of Year 2000-related preparedness and testing, giving rise
to concerns about the possibility of widespread power failures as the new
year approaches, according to a government report.
The General Accounting Office (GAO) also reported that 46 of the
participating organizations said they don't expect to be Y2K ready by the
industry's June target date.
Furthermore, 16 percent of those organizations said they don't expect to
be Y2K-compliant until the fourth quarter of 1999.
The Y2K problem refers to problems computers may face during the
transition from 1999 to 2000 because many computers are programmed to
recognize only the last two digits of the year. Computers may recognize
2000 as 1900 or may cease to function altogether.
Among the concerns is that many people may face outages in key services,
such as electricity and water supply.
Noting that the U.S. electric power supply industry is comprised of about
3,200 electric utilities, the GAO expressed concern about the industry's
efforts to make their systems Y2K ready.
"While the electric power industry has reported that it has made
substantial progress in making its equipment and systems ready to continue
operations in the year 2000, significant risks remain," the report said.
Because power utilities are dependent on embedded computer control
systems -- that is, chips that are built into a computer's architecture
and can't be replaced with different chips - the industry is particularly
susceptible to Y2K-related failures.
"All phases of operations in the electric power industry, from generation
to distribution, use control systems and equipment that are subject to
Year 2000 failures," the GAO report said. "The industry's analysis of its
embedded systems has shown that the Year 2000 problem places the nation's
electric power systems at risk."
Last month, a special committee established by the Clinton administration
found that 11 of the 24 major federal agencies, including the Energy
Department, missed the government's March 31 deadline for making their
mission-critical systems Y2K compliant.


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[CTRL] Top 10 diffs between Hitler and Klintoon

1999-04-17 Thread Don Allen

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Top Ten Differences Between Hitler and ClintonTop Ten Differences Between
Hitler and Clinton

Compiler Unknown

#1 - Hitler used drugs on prisoners.
Clinton used drugs.

#2 - Hitler had a socialized health care system.
Clinton's still working on it.

#3 - Hitler used environmental concerns to seize property.
Clinton is also using it to regulate the economy.

#4 - Hitler received more than half of the vote when elected.
Clinton didn't.

The Fact Police report that Hitler was appointed, not elected.
#5 - Hitler invaded France and installed a puppet government.
Clinton invaded Haiti and installed a Marxist tyrant.

#6 - Hitler admitted he had fought in his nation's military.
Clinton lied about committing crimes to avoid it.

#7 - Hitler slept with his mistress.
Clinton slept with his employees.

#8 - "The priveleged, wealthy Jewish race must pay..." -- Hitler
"The priveleged, wealthy white race must pay..." -- Clinton

#9 - Hitler got to power with the money of the wealthy he then oppressed.
Clinton got to power with the money of the wealthy who now control him.

#10 - "1935 will go down in history! For the first time, a civilized nation
has full gun registration! Our streets will be safer, our police more
efficient and the world will
follow our lead into the future!" -- Adolph Hitler

"Our police are hampered by the lack of full gun registration. We need to
follow the lead of other civilized nations in securing our streets!"  --
Bill Clinton

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[CTRL] Nexus Magazine - Mind Control and the NWO

1999-04-17 Thread Don Allen

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Source - http://www.peg.apc.org/~nexus/MindControlNWO.html

Mind Control Slavery and the New World Order

According to this extremely disturbing report, Monarch Program mind-control
survivors claim to have been used as high-tech slaves by certain intelligence
agencies and top-ranking politicians.


Extracted from Nexus Magazine, Volume 6, Number 2 (February-March 1999).
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by Uri Dowbenko © 1998
New Improved Entertainment Corp.
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High-tech slavery is alive and well on planet Earth. Ever since World War II
when the United States Government's Project Paperclip sponsored the
resettlement
of about 2,000 high-level Nazis in the United States, the technology of
mind-control programming has advanced rapidly.
"The Germans under the Nazi government began to do serious scientific research
into trauma-based mind control," write Fritz Springmeier and Cisco Wheeler in
their book, The Illuminati Formula used to create an Undetectable Total Mind
Controlled Slave. "Under the auspices of the Kaiser Wilhelm Medical
Institute in
Berlin, Josef Mengele conducted mind-control research on thousands of twins
and
thousands of other hapless victims."
Mengele, known as "the Angel of Death", was one of the approximately 900
military scientists and medical researchers secretly exfiltrated into the
United
States, where he continued his 'research' and trained others in the black arts
of mind control. This work in behaviour manipulation was later incorporated
into
the CIA's projects Bluebird and Artichoke which, in 1953, became the notorious
MKULTRA. The CIA claims that these programs were discontinued, but there is no
credible evidence that "The Search for the Manchurian Candidate" (the title of
the definitive book by John Marks) ever ceased.
In fact, Captain John McCarthy, US Army Special Forces (Ret.), who ran CIA
assassination teams out of Saigon during the Vietnam War, told his friend,
LAPD
whistleblower Mike Ruppert, that "MKULTRA is a CIA acronym that officially
stands for 'Manufacturing Killers Utilizing Lethal Tradecraft Requiring
Assassinations'". Thus the CIA's official obsession with producing programmed
killers through the MKULTRA contained more than 149 sub-programs in fields
ranging from biology, pharmacology, psychology to laser physics and ESP.
More recently, new evidence points to the continuous use of so-called
trauma-based programming techniques to accomplish the same goal. This includes
the deliberate induction of Multiple Personality Disorder (MPD) in involuntary
human subjects - in essence, human guinea pigs.
MPD has been reclassified by the American Psychiatric Association as
Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID). The psychiatrists' bible, the Diagnostic
and Statistical Manual (DSM-IV, p. 487), characterises it by:
A. The presence of two or more distinct personality states;
B. At least two of these identities or personality states recurrently take
control of the person's behaviour;
C. Inability to recall important personal information that is too extensive to
be explained by ordinary forgetfulness;
D. The disturbance is not due to the direct physiological effects of a
substance
or a general medical condition.

No matter what name is assigned to the problem, however, to create this
condition by conscious intent is an atrocity so depraved that trauma-based
mind-control programming remains the de facto Secret Holocaust of the 20th
century. Known as the Monarch Project, it has been verified and
corroborated by
numerous survivors like Cathy O'Brien, author of TranceFormation of America,
Brice Taylor, author of Starshine, and K. Sullivan, author of MK. No paper
trail
has been found which leads from the CIA's MKULTRA program to the Monarch
Project
- a catchword for mind control which involves US military, CIA, NASA and other
government agencies.
The Franklin Cover-up, attorney John W. DeCamp's groundbreaking book about
high-level pedophilia, also describes the sordid details of Monarch. "Drugs
are
not the deepest level of government-sponsored evil," he writes. "I think the
lowest level of Hell is reserved for those who conjured up and carried out the
'Monarch Project'. 'Monarch' refers to young people in America who were
victims
of mind-control experiments run either by US government agencies such as
CIA or
military intelligence agencies."
DeCamp's client, Monarch abuse survivor Paul Bonacci, has a story which
parallels the victimology of O'Brien, Taylor and Sullivan - an extensive
cross-corroboration of perpetrators and their methodology. It's simply "the
production of a horde of children in whom the soul is crushed, who would spy,
whore, kill and commit suicide", in the words of investigative reporter Anton
Chaitkin, quoted by DeCamp in his book.
Recovering Monarch victims speak 

[CTRL] Bilderberg SECRET meeting - June 3-6, Portugal

1999-04-16 Thread Don Allen

 -Caveat Lector-

From SPOTLIGHT web page -

===

Bilderberg to Meet in Portugal


Like a blood hound on the trail of prey, Jim Tucker has once again
chased down the global elite.

EXCLUSIVE TO THE SPOTLIGHT
By James P. Tucker Jr.

Bilderberg is scheduled to meet June 3-6 at the Caesar Park Penha
Longa in Sintra, Portugal. Sintra is a remote resort about 40
miles
from Lisbon.

Information about the secret meeting was provided by an agent
inside
Bilderberg.

American and European financiers, manufacturers, media moguls and
politicians meet at remote luxury resorts, allow only "loyal"
staff
to remain on the job, empty the establishment of all others, and
employ platoons of police, military and their own private security
to seal themselves off. They have tried to keep the meetings
secret
for 45 years.

But this year, following extensive SPOTLIGHT-generated publicity
last year in Scotland, and earlier in Germany, Scandinavia,
Georgia
and Canada, Bilderberg is taking more extreme steps, its agent
confided.

Instead of closing down the Penha Longa to all outsiders a day,
before the meeting starts on, June 2, Bilderberg has ordered the
resort shut down a full 48 hours before the internationalist
confab.
In addition, Bilderberg will pay hundreds of thousands of
dollars to
reimburse the Portuguese government for deploying military
forces to
guard their privacy and for helicopters to seek out intruders.

All Bilderberg participants, their staff members and resort
employees will wear photo identification tags that look much like
state drivers' licenses. They will have separate colors to
identify
the wearer as participant, staff or employee. A computer chip
"fingerprint" will assure the identity of the card's wearer.

Any intruders are to be manhandled, cuffed jailed or if
resisting or
fleeing, shot, the agent said.

Bilderbergers are greatly disturbed over the growing public
knowledge of their control of the world and of resistance to their
schemes for a global government as nationalism sentiment grows
around the world.

Bilderberg was instrumental in tearing down Jean-Marie Le Pen, who
founded France's National Front. The French-first party has
stunned
the Establishment by regularly capturing 15 percent of the vote in
that nation.

A Le Pen lieutenant, Bruno Megret, attempted a coup late last
year.
Many populists believe Megret has became an agent of Bilderberg.
Expecting recession, Bilderberg feared La Pen and "nationalists"
from other countries would interfere with their "free trade" goals
as they fight to protect their domestic industries from
exploitation
by the global cabal.

Because Bilderberg shares common goals with the Trilateral
Commission, the agenda that emerged in Washington (SPOTLIGHT,
March  29, 1999) will be major topics in Portugal, too.

This includes a "globalization summit" called for by Peter D.
Sutherland, head of Goldman Sachs International. Sutherland
attended
the Bilderberg meeting in Scotland last May and is expected in
Portugal.

Sutherland is expected to again call for "supranational
institutions" to manage the global economy while denouncing
nations
that "cling tenaciously to their separate identities" while
calling
for "sharing sovereignty."

In a related topic, there could be renewed calls for the UN to be
able to directly tax all people. In the past, Bilderberg has
proposed a UN levy on international travel and on oil at the
well-head, so all who travel or drive will be taxed.

---
"Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson

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spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL
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[CTRL] LA Area Detention Camp Claims Said False 3-13-99

1999-04-03 Thread Don Allen

 -Caveat Lector-

A personal note here first. Included article begins below.

I read a recent email from Don Bradley on some website, I can't recall
specifically which site, since I was jumping off links, however it seemed
to be fairly recent.

In this email, Mr. Bradley was loudly chiding two or three people. He
made a specific point about people who disagreed with him over the
issue of these camps, usually ended up calling him names, getting
vulgar, etc. I believe the point made was to watch and see who did
their homework/research as opposed to sitting on their fat lazy duffs
and just making phone calls without checking things out and then
loudly crying "hoax"!

That sounds reasonable enough, Don. I think this is an issue that needs
to be addressed without any zealous rhetoric, or blasting the "stupid and naive
sheeple who refuse to see".

There needs to be some intelligent, sane and balanced discussion about
this very issue rather than the Patriots bashing the "sheeple" who don't
"get it", vs the debunkers who scoff at these spurious claims when people
DO go visit these camps, such as the one Rense has made a report on below,
on his site.

What is needed is open, Frank and honest dialogue here. No more bashing,
no more value judgements. What is needed is verifiable facts so people
can go check out these "over 700 concentration camps". We need proof.
Tangible verifiable facts.  That's the stake to drive through the vampire's
NWO heart.

If these camps do exist, then let's get the facts down straight and the media
involved, so they can be stopped, NOW. An informed public is the best
weapon we have got, but the media that _would_ help will laugh and ridicule
this issue derisively if "Pearblossom" is the "proof" that is offered.

In this article, Rense offers to help, but no proof was forthcoming to him.
Why?
Why the evasion on "Pearblossom", Don?

I'm not afraid of which "list" I'm on. Hell, I'm probably on the "red" one. My
own
liberty isn't so important to me that I wouldn't risk it to warn people.

Time's getting short. Are you guys going to fish or cut bait?

Don Allen

--- begin included article



http://www.sightings.com/ufo2/campscorr.htm


LA Area Detention Camp Claims Said False 3-13-99


UPDATE - More LA 'Camps' Exposed From Sonny earth1 communications
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 3-28-99

Mr. Bradleys allegation of a "camp at the 405 and 5 interchange:

This is a large training vacility for the LAPD...repeat: LAPD!!! IT IS OWNED BY
LOS ANGELES DEPARTMENT OF WATER AND POWER IT IS PART OF THE VAN NORMAN DAM
WHICH FEEDS WATER INTO THE SAN FERNANDO VALLEY. YOU CAN TAKE TOURS AND SEE
EVERYTHING.E-V-E-R-Y-T-H-I-N-G!!

The short 'runway' refered to by Bradley is in fact a mock 4 lane highway
intersection approximately 400 feet long with painted lane markers and such!
Right next to it is a high speed practice pursuit ralley course.

As you go south on the 405 you can pull over on the fwy and view the entire
field...and most of the time see LAPD cars practicing maneuvers on the track.

AGAIN, I urge you to investigate this for yourself.

In addition we were again at the pearblossem site last sunday and looked with a
fine tooth comb NOTHING! I REPEAT N-O-T-H-I-N-G!!

People like Bradley are zealots and have but one agenda and it does not include
the truth.

Lest we not forget than misinformation stories like this could cost lives if
there were to be a political problem, or that some panicked individual or group
goes out and starts shooting at what THEY believe to be a camp.

The question that is now brought to mind is: HOW MANY OF THE REPORTS THAT ARE
CIRCULATING ON THE NET REGARDING CAMPS AND SUCH ARE LIKE BRADLEY'S...?

The more we look the more we find...LIES!

Sonny

Update 3-27-99

Note - We have been dilligently covering the issue of FEMA apportioning the US
into ten different administrative regions for years. We have been covering the
allegations of 'camps' for the past six years going all the way back to our
ground-breaking interviews with attorney Linda Thompson in 1994. We have
covered 'Garden Plot' and 'Rex' and the frightening array of Executive Orders
now on the books. We have NO trouble with the concept that there are plans for
utilize camps in times of 'national emergency'...the usage of which could range
from nefarious and completely evil goals to using them to quarantine victims of
mass plague or biological-chemical warfare attacks. The possibilities are
numerous, the ramifications run the gamut.

Mr. Bradley has made a number of claims in his Southern California
concentration camps story, which, so far, do not hold up to close scrutiny.


Fact: His story was first posted on 3-7-99.

Fact: Within a week, 'Sonny' had gone to the area with several others, had
taken pictures, and then submitted his rebuttal story on 3-

[CTRL] Stumbling Towards Empire

1999-04-02 Thread Don Allen
 -Caveat Lector-



ref -
http://www.rightmagazine.com/strange_disposed_times.htm

Stumbling Towards Empire 
by Michael R. Allen
March 29, 1999

For the first time in its fifty-year history, the North Atlantic Treaty

Alliance initiated an attack on a sovereign nation. Thundering over the

skies of Serbia and Montenegro, NATO jets hit targets in Belgrade ,

Pristina, and other areas. Eleven people were reported dead after the
first 
attack in what could be the first week of a major international
war.

Serbian dictator Slobodan Milosevic has vowed not to surrender his nation
to 
its aggressors. Unlike the relentless attack on Iraq, this bombing
campaign 
could unleash a massive retaliation. Russia is considering aid to the

Serbian military, and Belarus and the Ukraine have expressed their
support 
for whatever Russian President Boris Yeltsin decides to do.

Anticipating a long war, President Bill Clinton is working on plans to
send 
American ground forces into the midst of the Serbian-Kosovar civil war.
As 
if enough damage had not been done in that region, sending ground troops

into Serbia will surely make the situation worsen. The perpetual conflict
in 
the Yugoslavian area is centuries old and has never been solved - and it

surely will not be helped by a barrage of missiles and soldiers meeting
up 
with Russian-backed forces.

NATO stands ruined, though not explicitly. Its function as a defensive

collective has been effectively ended as it now assumes the role of

international police force. The alliance has broken free of its purpose
and 
it cannot revert to its original role after it has attacked a nation that

has not aggressed against another. With NATO changed in function, it
joins 
the United Nations as a threat to the liberty of every person on the
planet.

The destruction of NATO began with the United States State Department and

its policies. Yes, policy is supposed to be made by representatives of
the 
people, but no longer is that so. The State Department has powers that
are 
scary to ponder and inconsistencies equally upsetting. Its growth
parallels 
the abdication by Congress of its duties in foreign policy - an
abdication 
that increased as domestic functions began to expand.

In many ways it is more vital for Congress to control foreign policy than

domestic, since domestic spending is not going to decrease rapidly
anytime 
soon. The power to make war is one that the President should not have,

regardless of whether the proposed intervention is termed 'war' or not.

Military operations are usually to the depredation of domestic liberty;

conscription, taxation, inflation, and suppression of free speech are
prices 
exacted for foreign intervention. If these prices are to be paid,
trusting a 
single man and his State Department appointees with the decision is not

respective of the Constitution or public will.

The only governmental body where the interests of every citizen are - at

least marginally - represented is Congress. There the people's delegates
can 
make the decision of endorsing declarations of war. There public will
about 
war can be felt since every state is represented. There representatives
can 
be voted out of office for misappropriating the resources of government.
In 
short, Congress has a much more legitimate roll in foreign policy than

either the appointed foreign policy advisors or the special-interests

beholden President.

Unfortunately, foreign policy has been ceded to the executive branch for

years. Arguments for this sort of arrangement are usually critical of

Congress for its diverse views or supportive of centralized
decision-making 
on issues of war and international politics. Either way, the intellectual

justification for this strong presidency is ignorant of the rule of law.

Without devices like a legislature, civil government becomes
empire.

In the case of America, empire has arrived but the emperor has no
clothes. 
Clinton is rather brazen about his foreign policy being free from legal

reproach, even as a few once-sleepy Republicans wake up to challenge

imperialism. Congress has desperately tried to secure funding for missile

defenses, but to no avail. It might approve resolutions asserting its

prerogatives, but it is now irrelevant. The President has already escaped

impeachment and committed US troops to Bosnia, Haiti, and Iraq without

Congressional approval. For all he cares, he does not need to even inform

the nation of his plans. He is only continuing what others started.

Republicans cannot expect to successfully challenge the Clinton White
House 
after they allowed the adventures in Vietnam, Panama, Grenada, and Iraq
to 
go unchecked. Democrats still against war find that their ranks are thin.

There are brave anti-imperialists in Congress, but without power within
the 
leadership of each House there will be no serious reclamation of foreign

policy.

Meanwhile, the Chinese government has ties to an aircraft manufacturer
only 
50 

Re: [CTRL] Stumbling Towards Empire

1999-04-02 Thread Don Allen

 -Caveat Lector-

At 03:06 PM 4/2/99 -0500, Bill Kingsbury wrote:
 -Caveat Lector-

4-2-1999, Don wrote:
Attachment Converted: "CTRLStum.htm"


 Don,

 Any chance you can post ASCII- text articles -- rather than
 (only) HTML- attachments ?

 E-mail is mainly a text medium - for cross platform compatibility.
 Also, attachments are not archived.  The fewer attachments,
 the better, unless required -- such as for pages of HTML links...

I've been experimenting with HTML ("styled text") in Eudora
to get a feel for it, but you make a good point and I'll post in text-only
from now on, unless it's links.

Don

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[CTRL] Major Security Flaw Present in IE5 - Fix

1999-04-01 Thread Don Allen
 -Caveat Lector-




ref -
http://www.sysopt.com/ie5flaw.html

Major Security Flaw Present In IE5

By default, IE5 gives any web site
access to your Windows clipboard data.

Article Date: March 27, 1999


By:
Scott Wainner 



(Before you seasoned IE users dismiss this, it is NOT the same as the IE4 DHTML security flaw. Click here to find out why.) 

Introduction 
So, you're working on a couple of email messages to some friends, copying text here, pasting text there, using CTRL-C or Edit - Copy. One of the letters you are working on is to your friend Jim - you're writing Jim to tell him that after 30 years of research, you finally discovered how to make cold fusion work! Finally, free energy for the entire world!, you write. Just as soon as you announce your discovery at next week's physics convention, you'll be a billionaire. You're tired of writing though, so you decide to take a break and browse around on the 'net. You just downloaded IE5, and you're surfing around the web, minding your own business, perhaps taking a look at a few sites that you visit on a daily basis, and a few that you've never been to before. 

Several days later, you're watching NBC news, and see a story about a guy who just discovered how to make cold fusion work! And guess what, they used your formula! How did that guy get it?! Did he break into your home and steal it? No, while you were surfing around the 'net using IE5, one of the sites you visited decided to take advantage of a security flaw in IE5, and log the contents of your Windows clipboard to their server! 

The Problem 

Yes, you read correctly. IE5 has a security flaw that allows web servers to log the contents of your Windows clipboard cache to their server, without your knowledge or consent. Actually, the feature of allowing a site to request your clipboard data isn't the flaw. The flaw is that web sites are allowed to do it without any notification or consent needed using IE5's default security level settings. Whenever you copy text, using the edit - copy feature of just about every windows application, or hit CTRL-C to copy text, that text gets placed into the windows clipboard. You can then paste that text to Windows notepad, an email message, or wherever you feel like it. However, thanks to Microsoft IE5's default security setting, any web site using a snippit of Java/Active X code can read any and all of the text you have on your Windows clipboard. 

In order to give you a real world example of just how this really works, using IE5, go ahead and copy some text from another application (not from this Window, it does not work if you copy text from the IE5 window, unless you reload the page after doing so). Be sure there isn't anything in your clipboard cache that you don't want us to see - because of the way this demonstration works, your clipboard data is logged by our web server as a regular page request (in our server logs) - I can't control that. Then, click on this link to test out the IE5 clipboard flaw. If you are not currently using IE5 to view this page, you needn't bother clicking on the link, because it won't work (but the flaw can be reproduced with IE4). NOTE! -- if you want to try the link more than once, you may need to reload this page each time! 

If you are using IE5, and you were able to click on that link, whatever was in your clipboard cache should have been displayed in a new window. In a real world situation, however, if I wanted to log the contents of your clipboard to my server, I would disguise the code so well that you would never even know about it, and probably wouldn't even require you to click on a single link. While I would rather expose the flaw and tell you how to prevent the problem from occuring, there are undoubtedly many crooks on the web who already know about this caveat, and are exploiting it like crazy. 
Other sites which have acknowledged the security flaw: 

··Listen to our Audio Interview at Byte.com 
··The Register (UK) - IE 5 security hole lets snoopers scoop your clipboard 
··Maximum PC - IE5 Has Clipboard Security Hole 

If you ask Microsoft, they will tell you that it isn't a bug. Rather, they might use the term user configurable security issue. However, when you download IE5, it is configured by default to allow any web server to view the contents of your clipboard without your knowledge or consent. 
Microsoft added an Active X control feature to IE5 called The Microsoft Dynamic HTML Editing Component, which allows web designers to add WYSIWYG editing capability to their sites. This feature has two versions: DHTML Edit Control for IE5, and DHTML Edit Control Safe for Scripting for IE5. When a web designer uses code that applies to the first version, you will be warned if an HTML page contains script that would try to access your clipboard. However, it's simple to create a code snippit that uses the second version, which by default, you will not be warned about. 

It should be noted that this flaw can be duplicated 

Re: [CTRL] [piml] Art Bell Website Hacked by Yugoslavian Hackers!

1999-04-01 Thread Don Allen

At 11:30 PM 3/31/99 -0800, Ed Wolfe wrote:
The Beograd Hackers have completely replaced Art Bell's website with
one
of their own making. Check it out:

http://www.artbell.com

Probably the best use of Art Bell's site we'll ever see. Bell 
Rowland can 
screw around with Robert A.M. Stephens, but they can't beat the
Yugoslavian
hackers! 

 






BEOGRAD HACKERS RULE!! We Have Your Site!!


THE YUGOSLAV CITIZENS' MESSAGE TO NATO WORLD CRIMINALS 
Yugoslavia is informing its listeners and Internet users throughout the
world that the aggression against the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia has
dramatic proportions. Murderers and criminals, organized under the name
of NATO, are shooting at civilian targets in our country. The reason for
doing so is obviously to inflict material damage on the economy, roads
and all other assets. Their desire is to destabilize our country and
undermine the unity of our people, army and state leadership, and to try
to conquer us. 
Such an aggression and bestiality have not been seen since the time of
concentration camps in World War II. The criminals' missiles are falling
on schools full of children, hospitals with people being treated in them,
roads are being destroyed so that many places are being left without
food. They are bringing down transmission lines, so as to leave the
people without electricity, and using chemical weapons in order to cause
as great a pain and suffering of the population as possible. They are
cutting the major waterworks and targeting factories using chemical raw
materials. 

It is the Serbs, Montenegrins, Albanians, Turks, Muslims, Gorancies,
Romanies and all those living in our country that are suffering the
consequences of the acts by NATO criminals. 
Bill Clinton and his collaborator - Javier Solana, are justifying all
this with the need to protect democracy. The message of all the citizens
of Yugoslavia, the Serbs, Albanians and Montenegrins alike, to them is to
stop protecting our democracy. Our state is eight centuries older than
the United States. All Yugoslav citizens say to them that they will
remain steadfast in support of their army, their state and their
president, Slobodan Milosevic. And a message to them from all the
citizens of Yugoslavia is that we never lost wars and that our
retaliation against those who had attacked us, has always been painful.







More Links

··REPLY
OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF YUGOSLAVIA, MR. SLOBODAN
MILOŠEVIC 
··No
to NATO Expansion-- NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL ANTI-WAR PROTESTS AGAINST
U.S. BOMBING OF YUGOSLAVIA 
··A
letter from a 13 year old girl. 
··More
News in ENGLISH 


Demonstrations in Washington, April 4th 

Please come to Serbian demonstrations in front of the White House on
Sunday, April 4, starting at 2 p.m. People will come in an organized
fashion by buses from cities from the entire Eastern Coast of the U.S. -
from New York (8 buses booked already); Pittsburgh; Cleveland; and many
other cities. 

Pozivam vas da u sto vecem broju dodjemo u Vasington na velike srpske
demonstracije ispred Bele Kuce u Nedelju, 4. aprila, sa pocetkom u
14.00h. Doci ce organizovano ljudi autobusima iz gradova sirom istocne
Amerike - iz Njujorka (za sada bukirano 8 autobusa); Pitsburga;
Klivlenda; i mnogo drugih gradova sa cele istocne obale Amerike. 

Beograd, 24.marta 1999 Generalstab Vojske Jugoslavije obavestava
jugoslovensku i medjunarodnu javnost da je veceras u 20.00 casova NATO
pakt izvrsio agresiju na Saveznu Republiku Jugoslaviju. Vojne snage
Severnoatlanske alijanse, po diktatu i interesu svetskog policajca,
Sjedinjenih Americkih Drzava, a za racun siptarskih separatista i
terorista, grubo su narusile teritoriju suverene Jugoslavije i brutalno
ugrozile zivote njenih gradjana, saopstila je informativna sluzba
Generalstaba VJ. Borbeni efektivi sistema protivvazdusne odbrane koji su
pravovremeno otkrili agresorske projektile i efikasno dejstvovali nisu
osteceni i ostaju u borbenom rasporedu i spremnosti za dalja dejstva. U
prvom naletu svetskih agresora gadjano je preko dvadeset objekata, a
dejstva jos traju. Vojska Jugoslavije preduzima sve mere odbrane i
zastite. Operativna spremnost i borbena gotovost su na najvisem nivou, a
raspolozenje i motivisanost vojnika i oficira je besprimerno visoka. U
jedinice Vojske Jugoslavije masovno se javljaju dobrovoljci za odbranu
otadzbine. Prve eksplozije do kojih je doslo posle napada NATO pakta
oznacile su kraj medjunarodnog prava, suspendovale Povelju Ujedinjenih
nacija i otvorile novu stranicu svetske istorije, zakljucuje se u
saopstenju.




[CTRL] Chronology of the KLA's Terrorism: April 1996 - February 1998

1999-04-01 Thread Don Allen
 -Caveat Lector-




ref -
http://beograd.rockbridge.net/chronology.html

--
Chronology of the KLA's Terrorism: April 1996 - February 1998
--


1996


April 22: Blagoje Okulic, a Serb refugee from Croatia, was sitting with a
friend in a cafe when a masked member of the KLA opened fire on the
customers with an automatic weapon. Okulic died in hospital. He was the
first victim of the KLA.

Armand Daci (20), an ethnic Albanian student in dentistry school, was
shot and killed by a sniper.

June 16: In an attack against a police patrol near Podujevo, police
officer Goran Mitrovic was heavily wounded.

June 17: Around 11:55 p.m. a police patrol in the village of Siplje near
Kosovska Mitrovica was attacked, resulting in the killing of Predrag
Djordjevic (28) from Krusevac, and the wounding of Zoran Vukocic (30)
from Nis.

The same day a bomb was hurled at the police station in Luzani, and the
police officers on duty in the station were fired on by automatic
weapons. No one was injured.

July 11: One hour after midnight in the center of Podujevo terrorists
carried out an armed attack against police officers, resulting in a heavy
wounding of police officer Sredoje Radojevic.

Aug. 2: Armed attack on three police stations (in Pristina, Podujevo, and
the village of Krpimej) around 10 p.m.

Aug. 28: Three bombs were hurled in the village of Celopek (border of the
towns Pec-Klina-Decani), around 3 a.m. No one was injured.

In the village of Donje Ljupce police inspector Ejup Bajgora (44), an
ethnic Albanian who worked at the Pristina Precinct, was shot and
killed.

Aug. 31: In the night hours two bombs were hurled into the courtyard of
the Yugoslav Army's barracks in Vucitrn.

In the village of Rudnik (Srbica municipality) an armed attack was
carried out on the police station.

In Podujevo, police officers at the juncture of the road
Pristina-Podujevo-Kursumlija were fired on. No one was hit.

The police station in Glogovac was fired on with automatic weapons.

Oct. 25: Two police officers were killed by automatic weapons near the
village of Surkis in the Podujevo municipality -- Milos Nikolic, a police
inspector of the Pristina Precinct, and Dragan Rakic from the village of
Velika Reka, who was a police officer in the reserves and a manager of a
company in Podujevo.

Nov. 16: In the village of Rznic, in Decan municipality, around 10:30
p.m. a terrorist attack was carried out on the police station. No one was
killed.

Dec. 26: Faik Belopolja, an ethnic Albanian from Podujevo who was a
forest worker in the Serbia Forest Service, was shot and killed.


1997


Jan. 9: In the center of Podujevo at 5:30 p.m. Malic Saholi (52), an
ethnic Albanian who was the manager of the superamarket Vocar
and a deputy in the municipal council of Podujevo as a member of the
Socialist Party of Serbia, was shot and killed.

Jan. 11: In the Vucitrn village of Mijalic, around 7 p.m. more than 26
bullets were fired at the house of Ljubisa Mitrovic. No one was
killed.

Jan. 13: Shooting Fazil Hasani, an ethnic Albanian forest worker from the
village of Brabonic (Srbica municipality) in the neck, KLO terrorists
killed him and issued a statement denouncing Mr. Hasani as a
traitor.

Jan. 16: Using remote-controlled explosives, the KLO attempted to
assassinate the Dean of Pristina University, Mr. Papovic, at 8 a.m. as he
was driving to the University. Both he and his driver Nikola Lalic were
heavily wounded. The explosives were set off when their car was some 50
meters from Dean Papovic's apartment in Pristina.

Jan. 17: In the village of Reketnica (Srbica municipality), at 1 a.m.,
ethnic Albanian Zen Durmisi (52) was shot and killed and his son Nazmi
Durmisi was heavily wounded. The Durmisi family was labeled
pro-Yugoslav by the terrorist KLA.

Feb. 1: KLA terrorists from a moving vehicle fired on police officers.
The officers fired back and killed all three terrorists.

March 5: At 10:47 a.m., in front of the Pristina University School of
Languages, a bomb in a container exploded. Four people were wounded, two
ethnic Albanians -- Adrijana Dremka and Lindita Maksuti -- and two ethnic
Serbs, Borivoje Popovic and Ivan Maksimovic.

A second explosives device weighing 4.2 kilograms, which had been placed
at the base of the Vuk Karadzic monument in front of the School of
Languages, was found and deactivated by members of the Anti-Ballistics
Unit of the Pristina Precinct.

March 21: Around 8 p.m., in the center of Podujevo, KLA terrorists fired
five shots at police officer Branislav Milovanovic, wounding him heavily.
In a statement, the KLA claimed responsibility denouncing officer
Milovanovic as a Serbian policeman, well known blood-sucker and
anti-Albanian.

March 25: Near the village Sicevo, Klin municipality, a group of
attackers killed ethnic Albanians Jusuf Haljiljaj and Fehmi Haziraj (who
were well known 

[CTRL] Albanian Terrorism Book

1999-04-01 Thread Don Allen
 -Caveat Lector-




ref -
http://www.beograd.com/nato/albanian_terrorism.html

-

Milan V. Petkovi}
Albanian Terrorists
1998
There is only one step from fanaticism to barbarism.
Denis Diderot
Index

Introduction 
Islamic Extremism and the European Quest 
Growing Iranian influence

The Albanian Initiative 
The US Interest for Terrorists in Kosovo and Metohija 
TURKEY, ALBANIA AND THE
REPUBLIC KOSOVA 
Using religion 
Turkey, Albania and Kosovo and Metohija 
Planning the Republic of Kosova 
The Kosovo Liberation
Army 
What is the Kosovo
Liberation Army? 
Profile of a terrorist 
Dogs of War are arriving 
Profession - Terrorist 
MAPS  DRAWINGS
ABBREVIATIONS
BIBLIOGRAPHY
Introduction
Southeast Europe, and
especially the Balkan Peninsula, have traditionally been the object of
numerous geopolitical, geostrategic and publicist analyses, as well as
the subject of debates among Balkan, European and global experts in
international relations. At the present, along with the Serbian question,
the most controversial issue is the Albanian national question.
The basic problem concerns security in a broader geopolitical framework,
which is understandable. but at least as far as Western analysts are
concerned, other issues have priority such as human rights, democracy and
other issues that might become dominant in a given phase of crisis
solving. 
The preservation of regional security and the creation of stable
political-economic relations in the Balkan Peninsula are the priorities
of the international community policy, since it estimates that currently
the most important hotbeds on Europe are located in Kosovo and Metohija,
in Albania and in western Macedonia.
Judged according to investments, resources and geostrategic element, the
province of Kosovo and Metohija is worth more than 500 billion dollars.
This fact favored the Albanian secessionist leadership in its efforts to
assume the guidance of the Albanian people which might play an important
role in the global control of the south-eastern part of Europe. The
premise Whoever has control of the Balkans and of Kosovo and
Metohija, controls the stability and the instability of Europe has
been put to good use by the Albanian leaders by trying to destabilize
this part of the European continent in order to benefit by creating
Greater Albania, i.e. by generating a monopoly of power and
might in the Balkans. Their efforts are designed to provide the solution
to the Kosovo Question by involving international factors, to
the point that internationalization of the problems is sought at any
cost, including inciting and taking part in terrorist activities, devised
to frighten the Serbian people and force it to emigrate and abandon the
land to the secessionists.
The political objectives of the secessionists encompassing both
conventional and unconventional forms of activities by political parties,
unions, media, supported by terrorism, guerrilla, contraband, drugs
smuggling and violence of all sorts, are merely a mosaic revealing a
rejection of the authority of the Serbian state and of the Federal
Republic of Yugoslavia, and a collective resistance to the Serbian people
and political parties, regardless of their political programs, party
activities and attitude towards the present government. 
Islamic Extremism and the
European Quest
Kosovo and Metohija is a
region with enormous historical and civilizational importance, especially
in view of resisting to the expansion of Islamism in Europe. 
The war in Bosnia and Herzegovina, concluded by the Dayton Agreement,
also represents an attempt to ensure the penetration of Islamism in the
Balkans and to link a major number of states and regions to the Moslem
population and Islam as the religion of the majority. Part of this
process includes the long-term effort of the Albanian leadership to form
the Greater Albania, encompassing present day Republic of
Albania, Kosovo and Metohija, as well as parts of Macedonia, Montenegro
and Greece. Strikes staged by ethnic Albanian miners and university
students in Kosovo and Metohija back in 1988 and 1989, have escalated
into outbreaks of violence with tragic consequences, forcing the Serbian
government to take energetic measures to suppress anti-government and
terrorist activities and re-establish normal life condition in this part
of the Republic. This is why at the beginning of the nineties, terrorist
groups and their leaders adopted a new strategy which was intensified in
1996 and 1997. It was characterized by attacks focused on government
institutions, Serbs, Montenegrins and ethnic Albanians which were judged
to be helping the reinforcement of legal and legitimate authority of
Serbia and Yugoslavia. In just a few months at the end of 1997 and at the
beginning of 1998, the activity of the terrorists in Kosovo and Metohija
have caused the death of more than 70 citizens and members of Serbian
Police and Yugoslav Army. Such an escalation of violence was the result
of thorough 

[CTRL] Induced Remote heart attacks

1999-03-31 Thread Don Allen




http://members.aol.com/AYu5565448/index.htm
- (short excerpt) see link for whole
list of articles on this subject by author.

--

(Excerpt)--Wonder Weapon BY DOUGLAS PASTERNAK US NEWS  WORLD REPORT July 7, 97 
=== 
The 1987 issue of Soviet Military Power, a cold war Pentagon publication, warned that the Soviets might be close to a prototype short-range tactical RF [radio frequency] weapon. The Washington Post reported that year that the Soviets had used such weapons to kill goats at 1 kilometer's range. The Pentagon, it turns out, has been pursuing similar devices since the 1960s. 
=== 
According to above information, the Pentagon has been pursuing similar devices since the 1960s. Therefore, the US life controllers should have this kind of weapons by the late 1960s. 
If the hidden emitters of such kind of weapons have been installed on lights poles every kilometer, the operators can murder any victim (including suspecting victims who has no protection) outside victim's home and kill unknowing victim anywhere (including in the unknowing victim's own homes). 

Beside radio-frequency, the microwave weapon, infrasound, chronal gun, and laser gun can also be used to induce death on the victims (by inducing disease such as kidney, liver, gall-bladder dysfunction and lung disease, etc. Then, these life controllers can killed these victims by inducing organ failures on the victims). 

The above technique are especially used to suppress their opponents without most victims' knowledge. That's because victims can be killed as if they died from natural cause. 




[CTRL] MS offers patch to remove Global Unique Identifier

1999-03-31 Thread Don Allen



From the LockerGnome
(http://www.lockergnome.com)
newsletter:

GnomeSYSTEM 

Office 97 Privacy Issues and Patches 
http://officeupdate.microsoft.com/Articles/privacy.htm

This page includes: Microsoft Office 97 Unique Identifier Patch;
this patch, once applied will prevent the insertion of a unique
identifier number in all new Office documents. and Microsoft
Office 97 Unique Identifier Removal Tool; this is a utility that can be
used to remove the unique identifier from previously created Office 97
documents. Customers who are concerned about the presence of the unique
identifier number can run the utility against one or several documents at
a time. 





[CTRL] Council on Foreign Relations/Trilateral Commission/Bilderberg 1998 Member List

1999-03-31 Thread Don Allen

 -Caveat Lector-

 fwd from misc.activism.militia 

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Subj:   Council on Foreign Relations/Trilateral Commission/Bilderberg 1998
Member List
From: Timothy Aho

FYI - This is the 1998 CFR/TC/B Membership List. All the names are here but
I have not completed the companies/positions of members. Useful for doing quick
searches.

Sandra Day O'Connor, Assoc. Justice, US Supreme Court (CFR)
Steven G. Breyer, Assoc. Justice, US Supreme Court (CFR)
Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Associate Justice, US Supreme Court (CFR)
Laurence H. Silberman, US Court of Appeals, DC Circuit (CFR)
Jose Alberto Cabranes, 2nd Federal Circuit, NY (CFR)
William W. Schwarzer, US District Court, CA (CFR)
Dudley Baldwin Bonsai, US District Court, NY (CFR)

INTERNATIONAL COURT OF JUSTICE, THE HAGUE

Steven Myron Schwebel, Judge Arbitor (CFR)
Richard Clark Allison, Judge Iran-US Claims Tribunal (CFR)
Charles Nelson Brower, Counsel  Advocate (CFR)
John Reese Stevenson, Judge emer., Permanent Court of Arbit. (CFR)

US INSTITUTE FOR PEACE

Chester A. Crocker, Chairman (CFR)
Max M. Kampelman, Vice Chairman (CFR)
Richard H. Solomon, President (CFR)
Harriet Hentges, Exec. VP (CFR)
David Little, Senior Scholar, Religion, Ethics  Human Rights (CFR)
W. Scott Thompson, Dir. (CFR)
Christopher Phillips, Dir. (CFR)
Theodore M. Hesburgh, Dir. (CFR)
Seymour Martin Lipset, Dir. (CFR)

FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS

WORLD BANK

James D. Wolfensohn, Chmn. (B)
John M. Page, Jr., Ch. Econ. Mid East, No Africa (B)
Jessica Einhorn, Vice Pres.  Treasurer (CFR/TC)
Robert Strange McNamara, former President (CFR/TC/B)
Raymond Vernon, former visiting prof. (CFR)

BANK OF RECONSTRUCTION  DEVELOPMENT

Andre W.B. Newburg, General Counsel, Euro. (CFR)

BANK OF AMERICA

George W. Coombe, former Exec. VP (CFR)
Rudolph A. Peterson, Chmn., Exec. Comm. San Diego (CFR)
Nicholas B. Binkley, Chmn.  CEO, San Diego (CFR)
Melville P. McPherson, Grp. Exec. VP, San Diego (CFR)
Andrew F. Brimmer, Dir. (CFR)
Ignacia E. Lozano, Jr., Dir. (CFR)
Walter E. Massey, Dir. (CFR)
Julia Chang Bloch, Grp. Exec. VP San Fransicso (CFR)

BANK OF NEW YORK

John Carter Bacot, Chmn.  CEO (CFR)
Ralph E. Gomory, Dir. (CFR)
Martha T. Muse, Dir. (CFR)

BANKERS TRUST CO. NYC

George J. Vojta, Vice Chmn. (CFR)
Jon M. Huntsman, Dir. (CFR)
Vernon E. Jordan, Dir. (CFR/TC/B)

BROWN BROTHERS HARRIMAN CO.

Alexander Tonio Ercklentz, Partner (CFR)
Frnak W. Hoch, Partner (CFR)

CHASE MANHATTAN BANK

Walter Vincent Shipley, Chmn  CEO (CFR/TC)
Thomas G. Labrecque, Pres.  CEO (CFR)
Robert Royal Douglass, former Vice Chmn. (CFR)
David Rockefeller, Chmn. Intl Adv. Comm. (CFR/TC/B)
Marshall N. Carter, Sr., VP, Chase Manhattan Corp. (CFR)
Henry B. Schacht, Dir. (CFR)

CHEMICAL BANK

Thomas G. Labrecque, Chmn  CEO (CFR/TC)
John Roy Price, Jr., Director, Gov. Affairs (CFR)
Charles W. Duncan, Dir. (CFR)
Helene L. Kaplan, Dir. (CFR)
J. Bruce Llewellyn, Dir. (CFR)
Marina vN. Whitman, Dir. (CFR)

CITICORP, NYC

William Reginald Rhodes, Vice Chmn. (CFR)
Rozanne L. Ridgway, Dir. (CFR/TC)
Franklin A. Thomas, Dir. (CFR)

COMMERCIAL BANKS

Jack Sheinkman, Chmn. Amalgamated Bank (CFR/B)
Richard L. Carrion, Chmn, CEO, Banco Popular de Puerto Rico  (CFR)
Odeh Felix Aburdene, Mng. Ptr., Capital Trust, Boston (CFR)
Mitchell W. Hedstrom, VP, Citibank, NYC (CFR)
Richard Leslie Huber, Vice Chmn., Continental Bank Corp. (CFR)
Jackson B. Gilbert, 2nd Chmn., Espirito Santo Bank, FL (CFR)
Eli Shapiro, former Chmn., Fed. Home Loan Bank, Boston (CFR)
John Robert Petty, Chmn, Fed. Nat'l Payables (CFR)
Maynard J. Toll, Jr., Managing Dir., First Boston Corp., NYC (CFR)
Richard C. Holbrooke, V. Chmn, CS First Boston (CFR/B)
David C. Mulford, Vice Chmn., CS first Boston, Inc., London (CFR)
John M. Hennessy, Pres.  CEO, CS First Boston (CFR)
Alfred R. Abboud, former Chmn.  CEO, First City Bankcorp Houston (CFR)
Anthony P. Terracciano, Ch., Pr., 1st Fidelity, Bankcorp, NJ  (CFR)
Joseph A. Rice, frmr. Chmn  CEO, Irving Bank Corp. (CFR)
Dennis Weatherstone, Chmn.  CEO J.P. Morgan  Co. (CFR)
Thomas S. Johnson, Chmn. CEO, Greenpoint Fin. Corp (CFR)
Robert G. Wilmers, Pres.  CEO, MFR  Trdrs Trust (CFR)
Henry Furlong Baldwin, 

[CTRL] Walling Off Windows

1999-03-31 Thread Don Allen

 -Caveat Lector-

ref - http://www.cse.org/cse/cc228-csef-telecom.htm

Capitol Comment Number 228


  Citizens for a Sound Economy Foundation
  Capitol Comment Number 228
  March 30, 1999

  Walling Off Windows:
  Nationalization is a Hostile Takeover of Consumer Interests

  by Kent Lassman

  Ten years ago the Berlin Wall came tumbling down and government-planned
  economies were on the decline. Today, attorneys general from 19 states
met
  with Microsoft to negotiate a settlement in their pending antitrust suit.

  Unfortunately, the state attorneys general have proposed the largest
  peacetime takings in history. They advocate a radical plan to take
control
  and to nationalize the software industry in America.
  The world has changed a great deal in the last decade. Only eight years
  ago the Internet was first opened up to commercial activity, and just
five
  years ago the first web browser was introduced. However, some people are
  slow to recognize change. Antitrust lawyers, led by the Department of
  Justice and joined by 19 state attorneys general have concocted a plan to

  micromanage our economy. In the Microsoft case, despite a lack of
evidence
  to show consumer harm and a court of appeals ruling that found consumer
  benefit from the business practices now in question, the government
  proposes a takeover of the software company.
  While the case will not likely be settled for some time, an examination
of
  the proposals that are already on the table is troubling. At issue is a
  government charge that Microsoft unfairly leveraged its position in the
  market for operating systems to corner the market for Internet browsers.
  However, rather than a proposal to address alleged wrongs in the way that

  Microsoft conducts business, the state attorneys general propose to take
  over the thriving software market.
  Although the proposal has not been publicly released, it has been widely
  reported that the attorneys general would require an auction of
  Microsoft’s core asset, its source code. The regulators’ spin is that
this
  would be pro-competition and pro-market. This could not be further from
  the truth. A free market allows a firm to build and allocate resources to

  meet consumer demand. It is something else entirely for the government to

  decide who owns or has the right to use a firm’s assets. This is called
  nationalization. This was practiced on the other side of the Berlin Wall.
  The proposal reportedly goes much further, which is to say that it gets
  much worse. Not only would Microsoft have to give up its source code, it
  would be forced to bring on the government as a business "partner." The
  state attorneys general call for ongoing access to Microsoft’s internal
  e-mail and for veto authority over significant business decisions. On top

  of all of this regulation, the state attorneys general propose that all
  contracts between Microsoft and its business partners must be done on
  standardized ­ that is, government issued ­ contracts and that any
changes
  to licensed software must receive "certification."
  Economic regulation bears a heavy burden of justification. With computer
  and software prices falling ­ more than a dozen browsers are now free ­
  the government is hard pressed to explain how Microsoft has harmed
  consumers. The recent settlement proposal is a step toward a governmental

  Department of Microsoft and a step away from consumers’ control of the
  marketplace through their purchasing power.
  At its essence, economic regulation is a statement of belief. Regulators
  believe that they know more about what is good for consumers than
  consumers do. This belief leads to some indefensible conclusions. For
  example, the extreme proposal of the attorneys general presumes that they

  know the best way to organize the marketplace and how to combine various
  software programs. This is absurd.
  In the decade since the Wall came down, who has done more to expand
  opportunity for all consumers ­ the software industry or government
  regulators? The answer is so obvious that the only real question is how
  can we stand by while the government tries to nationalize an industry
that
  has provided so much benefit to our country.
  Competition in a free market produces the best combination of quality,
  service and price while encouraging innovation. As a result, consumers
  benefit. American consumers can make choices for themselves. A man on the

  street knows more about his needs than any group of government lawyers.
  Pursuit of this new and harmful economic regulation will have drastic
  consequences. First among them is the destruction of the freedom to
  contract in a 

[CTRL] America's Heart Is About To Be Speared

1999-03-31 Thread Don Allen

 -Caveat Lector-

America's Heart Is About To Be Speared

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  A Nuclear Knife Aimed at America's Heart
   Joel M. Skousen
   March 25, 1999

In November 1997, President Clinton signed a top-secret Presidential
Decision Directive (PDD-60) directing U.S. military commanders to
abandon the time-honored nuclear deterrence of "launch on warning."
Ironically, this was done in the name of "increased deterrence."
Every sensible American needs to understand why this reasoning is
fraudulent at best and deadly at worst. First, some background.

The impetus to change U.S. strategic nuclear doctrine came on the
heels of Clinton's demand to the Joint Chiefs of Staff in early 1997
that they prepare to unilaterally reduce America's nuclear warhead
deployment to 2,500 in eager anticipation of the ratification of the
START II disarmament treaty. This pact has yet to be ratified by the
Russian Duma.

Gen. John Shalikashvili, chairman of the Joint Chiefs, responded that
he couldn't comply, since the U.S. military was still operating on a
former Presidential Decision Directive of 1981 to prepare to "win a
protracted nuclear war." A winning strategy couldn't be implemented
without the full contingent of current nuclear strategic warheads.

According to Craig Cerniello of Arms Control Today (November/December
1997 issue), "the administration viewed the 1981 guidelines as an
anachronism of the Cold War. The notion that the United States still
had to be prepared to fight and win a protracted nuclear war today
seemed out of touch with reality, given the fact that it has been six
years since the collapse of the Soviet Union."

Certainly, the apparent collapse of the Soviet Union is the linchpin
in every argument pointing toward the relaxation of Western vigilance
and accelerated disarmament. Indeed, it is the driving argument that
is trumpeted constantly before Congress, U.S. military leaders, and
the American people.

Almost everyone is buying it -- even most conservatives who should
know better.  However, the most savvy Soviet-watchers can point to a
host of evidence indicating that the so-called "collapse" was
engineered to disarm the West and garner billions in direct aid to
assist Russia while inducing the West to take over the economic
burden of the former satellite states.

But the most ominous evidence is found in defectors from Russia who
tell the same story: Russia is cheating on all aspects of
disarmament, and is siphoning off billions in Western aid money to
modernize and deploy top-of-the-line new weapons systems aimed at
taking down the U.S. military in one huge, decapitating nuclear
strike.

Contrast this with the Clinton administration's response. Incredibly,
while still paying lip service to nuclear deterrence, Assistant
Secretary of Defense Edward L. Warner III went before the Congress on
March 31, 1998, and bragged about the litany of unilateral
disarmament this administration has forced upon the U.S. military:

Warner noted the "success" the Clinton administration has had in
recent years, which has:

Eliminated our entire inventory of ground-launched non-strategic
nuclear weapons (nuclear artillery and Lance surface-to-surface
missiles).

Removed all nonstrategic nuclear weapons on a day-to-day basis from
surface ships, attack submarines, and land-based naval aircraft
bases.

Removed our strategic bombers from alert.

Stood down the Minuteman II ICBMs scheduled for deactivation under
Start I.

Terminated the mobile Peacekeeper and mobile small ICBM programs.

Terminated the SCRAM-II nuclear short-range attack missile.  In
January 1992, the second Presidential Nuclear Initiative took further
steps which included:

Limiting B-2 production to 20 bombers.

Canceling the entire small ICBM program.

Ceasing production of W-88 Trident SLBM (submarine-launched missile)
warheads.

Halting purchases of advanced cruise missiles.

Stopping new production of Peacekeeper missiles (our biggest
MIRV-warhead ICBM).  "As a result of these significant changes, the
U.S. nuclear stockpile has decreased by more than 50 percent," Warner
enthused.

All of this 

[CTRL] Dam Beavers!

1999-03-31 Thread Don Allen

 -Caveat Lector-

ref - http://www.warroom.com/beavers.htm

Heads Up



This was an actual letter from and a reply to the Michigan
Department of Environmental Quality, State of Michigan:


  Mr. Ryan De Vries
  2088 Dagget
  Pierson, MI 49339

  Dear Mr. DeVries:
  SUBJECT: DEQ File No. 97-59-0023-1 T11N, R10W,
  Sec. 20, Montcalm County

  It has come to the attention of the Department of Environmental Quality
  that there has been recent unauthorized activity on the above-referenced
  parcel of property. You have been certified as the legal landowner
and/or
  contractor who did the following unauthorized activity: Construction and
  maintenance of two wood debris dams across the outlet stream of Spring
  Pond. A permit must be issued prior to the start of this type of
activity.
  A review of the Department's files shows that no permits have been
issued.
  Therefore, the Department has determined that this activity is in
  violation of Part 301, Inland Lakes and Streams, of the Natural Resource
  and Environmental Protection Act, Act 451 of the Public Acts of 1994,
  being sections 324.30101 to 324.30113 of the Michigan Compiled Laws,
  annotated.

  The Department has been informed that one or both of the dams partially
  failed during a recent rain event, causing debris and flooding at
  downstream locations. We find that dams of this nature are inherently
  hazardous and cannot be permitted.

  The Department therefore orders you to cease and desist all unauthorized
  activities at this location, and to restore the stream to a free-flow
  condition by removing all wood and brush forming the dams from the
stream
  channel. All restoration work shall be completed no later than January
  31,1998.

  Please notify this office when the restoration has been completed so
that
  a follow-up site inspection may be scheduled by our staff. Failure to
  comply with this request or any further unauthorized activity on the
site
  may result in this case being referred for elevated enforcement action.
  We anticipate and would appreciate your full cooperation in this matter.
  Please feel free to contact me at this office if you have any questions.

  Sincerely,
  David L. Price
  District Representative
  Land and Water Management Division



  RESPONSE Dear Mr. Price:
  Re: DEQ File No. 97-59-0023; T11N, R10W, Sec 20;
  Montcalm County

  Your certified letter dated 12/17/97 has been handed to me to respond
to.
  You sent out a great deal of carbon copies to a lot of people, but you
  neglected to include their addresses. You will, therefore, have to send
  them a copy of my response.

  First of all, Mr. Ryan De Vries is not the legal landowner and/or
  contractor at 2088 Dagget, Pierson, Michigan - I am the legal owner
and a
  couple of beavers are in the (State unauthorized) process of
constructing
  and maintaining two wood "debris" dams across the outlet stream of my
  Spring Pond. While I did not pay for, authorize, nor supervised their
dam
  project, I think they would be highly offended that you call their
  skillful use of natural building materials "debris." I would like to
  challenge your department to attempt to emulate their dam project any
time
  and/or any place you choose. I believe I can safely state there is no
way
  you could ever match their dam skills, their dam resourcefulness, their
  dam ingenuity, their dam persistence, their dam determination and/or
their
  dam work ethic.

  As to your request, I do not think the beavers are aware that they first
  must fill out a dam permit prior to the start of this type of dam
  activity. My first dam question to you is: (1) are you trying to
  discriminate against my Spring Pond Beavers or (2) do you require all
  beavers throughout this State to conform to said dam request? If you are
  not discriminating against these particular beavers, through the Freedom
  of Information Act I request completed copies of all those other
  applicable beaver dam permits that have been issued. Perhaps we will see
  if there really is a dam violation of Part 301, Inland Lakes and
Streams,
  of the Natural Resource and Environmental Protection Act, Act 451of the
  Public Acts of 1994,being sections 324.30101 to 324.30113 of the
Michigan
  Compiled Laws, annotated.

  I have several concerns. My first concern is - aren't the beavers
entitled
  to legal representation? The Spring Pond Beavers are financially
destitute
  and are unable to pay for said representation - so the State will
have to
  provide them with a dam lawyer. The Department's dam concern that either
  one or both of the dams failed during a recent rain event causing
flooding
  is proof 

[CTRL] Melissa creator may be uncovered

1999-03-30 Thread Don Allen





From ZDNN

http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2233931,00.html

Melissa creator may be uncovered

Thanks to a controversial serial ID number, researchers seem to have
found 
the virus writer.

By Robert Lemos, ZDNN
March 29, 1999 5:49 PM PT 


Two software engineers have extracted information from the Melissa virus

that appears to lead to an account on America Online Inc. and a Web site

that, if matched with a person, could lead law enforcement officials to
the 
author of the prolific virus.

The key is a controversial serial number, called the Global Unique 
Identifier or GUID, which is included in files created with Microsoft

Corp.'s (Nasdaq:MSFT) Office, as well as some other applications,
including 
Visual Basic. The serial number raised the concern of privacy advocates
just 
a few weeks ago for its ability to be used to trace certain documents
back 
to their creator. 

That's exactly what two software engineers have done. Using the unique

number, Richard M. Smith, president of software tools developer Phar Lap

Software Inc., and Fredrik Bjorck, a Swedish PhD student at Stockholm

University's Department of Computer and System Sciences, have tracked
down 
the virus writer to at least one specific Web site.

We can't be one hundred percent sure, said Smith. There
is a possibility 
that (the Web site author) was framed. There is a possibility of little

green men coming from Mars, too. 

In other words, the electronic fingerprints on the Melissa
virus inserted 
in the Word macro and those on the documents posted on the Web site are
the 
same. The electronic fingerprint, called the media access control (MAC)

address, is a unique serial number for a PC's Ethernet card.

The Web site belongs to a malicious hacker, and a writer of virus tools,

known by several handles, including VicodinES, Sky Roket, John Holmes,
and 
Johnny One Leg Johnson, among others, according to
Smith.

Posted on alt.sex

Sky Roket is the name of an America Online user, and is also the name on
the 
original e-mail that posted Melissa to the alt.sex newsgroup. But Smith

believes that Sky Roket is being used to camouflage the activities of

VicodinES. America Online (NYSE:AOL) would not comment on whether that

particular user was being investigated by the FBI. The FBI also declined
to 
comment on any potential investigation.

However, whoever controls Sky Roket has a history of posting viruses.
Under 
the same handle, at least three viruses were posted in late 1997 in
exactly 
the same manner (1, 2, and 3). All were attributed to VicodinES's
authorship. 

According to Phar Lap's Smith, the MAC address derived from the Word

document's GUID and the one derived from the documents on Web sites

registered to VicodinES and Sky Roket match. The connection was first

pointed out by Bjorck in Sweden.

ZDNN has independently confirmed that documents accompanying an Office
2000 
macro virus on VicodinES's Web site, created by the person using the
Vicodin 
handle, include the same electronic fingerprint as the Melissa virus.

Another one of VicodinES's files is stored on Skyroket's personal site on
AOL.

This could be a costly mistake for the writer. The FBI is looking to

prosecute the writer with a fine of $350,000 and five to 10 years,
according 
to statements made by Michael Vatis, director of the National
Infrastructure 
Protection Center.






[CTRL] Slick's letter to Colonel Holmes

1999-03-30 Thread Don Allen






Lest we forget

As some members of the
military are being punished for adultery and lying about sex and others
are prevented from speaking out against the Draft Dodger in Chief, let us
pause and reflect on the words our president wrote 29 years ago that
express his views on the meaning of Duty, Honor, and Country.

University College
Oxford, England
December 3, 1969

Dear Col. Holmes,
I am sorry to be so long in writing. I know I promised to let you hear
from me at least once a month, and from now on you will, but I have had
to have some time to think about this first letter. Almost daily since my
return to England I have thought about writing, about what I want to and
ought to say.

First, I
want to thank you, not just for saving me from the
draft, but for being so
kind and decent to me last summer, when I was as low as I have ever been.
One thing which made the bond we struck in good faith somewhat palatable
to me was my kind regard for you personally. In retrospect, it seems that
the admiration might not have been mutual had you known a little more
about me, about my political beliefs and activities. At least you might
have thought me more fit for the draft than for ROTC.

Let me try
to explain. As you know,
I worked for two years in a very, minor position on the Senate Foreign
Relations Committee. I did it for the experience and the salary but also
for the opportunity, however small, of working every day against a war I
opposed and despised with a depth of feeling I have reserved solely for
racism in America before Vietnam. I did not take the matter lightly but
studied it carefully, and there was a time when not many people had more
information about Vietnam at hand than I did.

I have
written and spoken and marched against the
war.One of the national
organizers of the Vietnam Moratorium is a close friend of mine. After I
left Arkansas last summer I went to Washington to work in the national
headquarters of the Moratorium, then to England to organize the Americans
here for demonstrations Oct. 15 and Nov. 16.

Interlocked
with the war is the draft issue, which I did not begin to consider
separately until early
1968. For a law seminar
in Georgetown, I wrote a paper on the legal arguments for and against
allowing, within the Selective Service System, the classification of
selective conscientious objection for those opposed to participation in a
particular war, not simply to participation in war in any
form. From my work I came to believe that the draft system itself
is illegitimate. No government really rooted in limited, parliamentary
democracy should have the power to make its citizens fight and kill and
die in a war they may oppose, a war which even possibly may be wrong, a
war which, in any case, does not involve immediately the peace and
freedom of the nation. The draft was justified in World War II because
the life of the people collectively was at stake. Individuals had to
fight, if the nation was to survive, for the lives of their countrymen
and their way of life. Vietnam is no such case. Nor was Korea, an example
where, in my opinion, certain military action was justified but the draft
was not, for the reason stated above.

Because of
my opposition to the draft and the warI am in great sympathy for those
who are not willing to
fight, kill and maybe die
for their country (i.e., the particular policy of a particular
government) right or wrong. Two of my friends at Oxford are conscientious
objectors. I wrote a letter of recommendation for one of them to his
Mississippi draft board, a letter which I am more proud of than anything
else I wrote at Oxford last year. One of my roommates is a draft resister
who is possibly under indictment and may never be able to go home again;
He is one of the bravest, best men I know. His country needs men like him
more than they know. That he is considered a criminal is an
obscenity.

The
decision not to be a resister and the related subsequent decisions were
the most difficult of my
life. I decided to accept
the draft in spite of my beliefs for one reason: to maintain my political
viability within the system. For years I have worked to prepare myself
for a political life characterized by both practical political ability
and concern for rapid social progress. It is a life I still feel
compelled to lead. I do not think our system of government is by
definition corrupt, however dangerous and inadequate it has been in
recent years. (The society may be corrupt, but that is not the same
thing, and if that is true we are all finished anyway.)

When the
draft came, despite political convictions, I was having a hard time
facing the prospect of fighting a war I had been fighting
against, and that is why
I contacted you. ROTC was the one way left in which I could possibly, but
not positively, avoid both Vietnam and resistance. Going on with my
education, even coming back to England, played no part in my decision to
join ROTC. I am back here and would have been at 

Re: [CTRL] The World's Greatest Hacking Links

1999-03-21 Thread Don Allen
 -Caveat Lector-


At 01:50 AM 3/21/99 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Need Info:
   Went to web site listed:
www.thecodex.com/hacking.html--
    !. At the bottom of this site it showed that it was
Downloading my Drive
C;
   2, Then it indicated that it was Reformating my Drive
C;

  It doesn't appear that any damage has been done, HOWEVER: Is this
some
sort of joke?  What Gives?



Yea, it's a sick joke. No actual harm done to your HD.

Here's the pertinent line of javascript code:

window.setTimeout('fakeformat(-1)',200);


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Re: [CTRL] Broken Windows Theory

1999-03-21 Thread Don Allen

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At 09:12 AM 3/21/99 -0500, Carl Amedio wrote:

Broken Windows Theory

Microsoft acknowledges the existence of a bug in Windows 95
and Windows 98 that will cause your computer to crash after
exactly 49 days, 17 hours, 2 minutes and 47.296 seconds of
continuous operation.


Has anyone on this List ever managed to keep Win 95/98 up
for that long without a crash/freeze? I haven't and I don't think
it's possible.

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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: CFR Front Organizations

1999-03-20 Thread Don Allen
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Does anyone have a current list of CFR members?

Don



The Council on Foreign Relations established  the American  Institute
of
Pacific Relations  in 1925.   Morgan and Rockefeller controlled Wall
Street

The Council on Foreign Relations are in violation of Title-50 War
and
National Defense § 783. The Council on Foreign Relations has
unlawfully
and knowingly combined, conspired, and agreed to substantially
contribute
to the establishment of one world order under the totalitarian
dictatorship,  the direction and the control of members of Council
on
Foreign Relations,  the Royal Institute of International Affairs,
and
members of their branch  organizations in various nations throughout
the
world. That is  totalitarianism on a global scale.



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