Re: [CTRL] CIA's Paramilitary Operations
-Caveat Lector- Do you know that Tony Poe lives in a very small village in California? I live in the same village. The whole family is OTL...seriously! JUDY GULSON - Original Message - From: David Crockett Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 1999 2:46 PM Subject: [CTRL] CIA's Paramilitary Operations -Caveat Lector- From: Activist Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Activist Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CIA's Paramilitary Operations Date: Thursday, April 29, 1999 3:31 PM Activist Mailing List - http://get.to/activist 4/29/99 CIA's Paramilitary Operations A recent reference to retired CIA paramilitary officer Tony Poe or Tony Poshepny below, raises the question of CIA paramilitary operations in general. As we read these accounts we should ask, can we really expect that PM officers will ever produce intelligence? Did we not run a PM war in Vietnam for years without ever understanding the other side? Did we not conduct a PM war in Afghanistan that led to the creation of "International Terrorism?" Did not all PM wars contribute to the international drug traffic? Did not the CIA's committment to paramilitary wars engage this country in many other destructive activities? In a speech in October 1998, by John Millis, Staff Director of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HPSCI), he dicussed the future of the CIA. Millis is a former CIA operations who became Staff Director of HPSCI in 1997. Mr. Millis said re CIA paramilitary operations: "We believe we have to keep a very strong paramilitary capability on the shelf for the Directorate of Operations. It's always hard to anticipate what the next crisis is going to be, but we can be sure that it will be there. And the paramilitary capability the DO has is uniquely well suited for many of the types of situations that we're seeing around the world." The reference item on Tony Poe said: "...his life helped to create the greatest cinema icon to come of the Vietnam war. This man...is the real Colonel Kurtz, whose fictional counterpart was played by Marlon Brando in Francis Ford Coppola's epic movie Apocalypse Now... The reality of the Kurtz legend is far stranger than fiction... [It] confirmed the existence of a US super-spy code-named Upin. Upin was a pararmilitary expertLike the fictional Kurtz, he recruited a private army of 10,000 tribesmen, married a princess turned his back on the US and became as savage as the jungle he made his home." ...Agent Upin, also known as Pat Gibbs, was Anthony Poshepny, one of the CIA's most notorious and effective agents deployed in the Vietnam war. Orders were to enter Laos illegally in 1961 and conduct a secret war against the communists that would be denied in Congress and hidden from the US public" Ralph McGehee http://come.to/CIABASE The below are brief extracts from CIABASE files on Tony Poe. Laos, Tony Poe ran the secret ground war in Laos and kept pickled heads. Poe was a Hungarian refugee who began his CIA career training Khamba tribesmen to fight the Chinese in Tibet. Poe said "we got the Dalai Lama out of Tibet." In Laos he rewarded his men for producing the ears of communists. Harper's 7/85 60 Laos 53-75 book by Roger Warner, Back Fire: the CIA's Secret War in Laos and its Link to the War in Vietnam, (1995). Discusses Vang Pao of the Hmong tribesmen. The Secret War gained momentum - with Bill Lair - an ideological cold warrior, using Thai paratroopers to train the Hmong. Lair had his hqs in Udorn, Thailand. Tony Poshepny, an ex-marine of Hungarian origin - who had worked with the CIA's ops with the Khamba in Tibet and in Sumatra, Indonesia was ultimately thrown out of op, a broken-down drunk. This is a wry, compassionate narrative. "from 63 to 73, Laos was a secret annex to Vietnam war, overseen by the ambassador, run by CIA, and bombed by the U.S. military, without the consent of Congress." Warner focuses on CIA's misbegotten strategy of the Hmong counterinsurgency. A horrific tale of blindsighted do-gooders, ambitions and bungled intentions. Bill Lair/CIA recruited 10,000 Hmong. Clothed, fed and armed by CIA and trained by Thais, they helicoptered to elaborate skirmishes against the Pathet Lao and the North Vietnamese. At peak strength of 30,000 they were the only effective Lao army. Vang Pao took his cut from the opium trade. He deserted to the U.S. in 75, six months before the Pathet Laos' triumph. The Nation 9/18/95 288-90 Laos, China, 67-68 Tony Poe sent T-28 planes to bomb in China. Corn, d. (1994). Blond Ghost: Ted Shackley and the CIA's Crusades 154-5 Laos, Vietnam, 63 In 8/63 Lair received an order to disrupt NVN truck traffic thru Laos by blowing up parts of route 7. From an Air America plane, Tony Poe dropped demolition charges. Thais supervised twelve platoons of elite Meo troops called Special Guerrilla Units as they blew up
Re: [CTRL] Mae Brussel
-Caveat Lector- who are you and where do you lecture?? JUDY GULSON -Original Message- From: Kenn Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, April 01, 1999 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Mae Brussel -Caveat Lector- My recent lectures involve mysterious researcher deaths and the technology of assassination, with due honor going to Mae and Casolaro for their bravery and sacrifice. I have been compiling a new anthology on the Gemstone File, with previously unavailable Brussell material. It will include the full Kiwi Genstone and the Com-12 Briefing, which together establish the connection between Brussell and Casolaro. kt DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Mind Control government experiments news/discussion/poll website: http://www.youbethejudge.com/
-Caveat Lector- I am interested in any Jonestown information that you have!! JUDY GULSON -Original Message- From: Colleen Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, March 19, 1999 1:04 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Mind Control government experiments news/discussion/poll website: http://www.youbethejudge.com/ -Caveat Lector- If you are interested, I have something re Jonestown. Let me know. Will take a bit of typing. This dates back to Reagon - experiment flopped. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Citizens Against Human Rights Abuse
-Caveat Lector- Well, I, for one, ask Colin Ross where is the promised book? Alan Scheflin has certainly come through? JUDY GULSON -Original Message- From: Kris Millegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, March 02, 1999 4:50 PM Subject: [CTRL] Citizens Against Human Rights Abuse -Caveat Lector- from: http://www.calweb.com/~welsh/ A HREF="http://www.calweb.com/~welsh/"Citizens Against Human Rights Abuse /A - Articles, embedded links. Om K - Citizens Against Human Rights Abuse TABLE OF CONTENTS Purpose of Organization Objectives of Organization Letter of Support from Professor John C. Syer Letter from Eric M. Meslin, Ph.D. of the NBAC Articles by Cheryl Welsh 1.Nonconsensual Brainwave and Personality Studies by the U.S. Government 2.Another Arms Race? What the Public Should Know About Electromagnetic Frequency Weapons 3.Hi-tech intelligence tools. -Yet another Classified Intelligence Program. Similar to the FBI Cointelpro Program. 4.Timeline of Significant Event in the History of Electromagnetic and Mind Control Technology 5.Electromagnetic and Mind Control Technology Ex-Con Plans Class Action Suit, Claims Prisoners Brainwashed Former Prisoner Raises Question of Mind Control 6.Fact Sheet and Victims. Allegations match electromagnetic weapons technology. Further investigation is needed. 7.U.S. Human Rights Abuse Report: A Classified Arms Race Between the Superpowers to Control the Human Mind and Body with Electromagnetic Technologies. 1998 Updates: 8. Nonlethal Weapons - A Global Issue 9.International Documents in Support of Claims of the Existence of Electromagnetic Anti-Personnel Weapons 10.Book: The 1950s Secret Discovery of the Code of the Brain -- U.S. and Soviet Scientists Have Developed the Key to Consciousness for Military Purposes. How The U.S. Government Won the Arms Race to Control Man Contacting C.A.H.R.A. Refer to Mind Control Forum for further information. Visits to C.A.H.R.A. Home Page: 5362 PURPOSE OF ORGANIZATION Citizens Against Human Rights Abuse was formed by a group of victims of alleged nonconsensual human experimentation involving electromagnetic and neurological weapon testing programs by the U.S. and other governments. The specific purpose of this group is to stop the currently ongoing nonconsensual human experimentation by the U.S. and other governments. The group will use research and documentation, networking and organization to reach a timely solution. Victims organized this group to pool their time and resources and to network with each other, just as the Gulf War Vets and also radiation victims did. Table of Contents OBJECTIVES OF ORGANIZATION The specific objectives and purposes of this corporation shall be: a.to collect government documents, books, magazine, newspaper articles and other sources of information on the topic of human experimentation, electromagnetic and neurological technologies and weapons programs; b.to organize and report on allegations of human rights abuses involving the topics mentioned in (a); c.to network with victims in order to alleviate the suffering and to exchange remedies for this issue; d.to network with other human rights and advocacy groups in order to find legal, legislative and international remedies; e.to educate the public concerning the human rights abuse and solutions to this problem; f.to formulate a plan to prevent this human rights abuse from recurring, including the advocacy of lawsuits and legal prosecution of guilty parties who instigate this human rights abuse; g.to engage in other activities related to the above concerns and to expand and re-define our goals and plans from time to time as necessary to meet the continuing challenge of human rights abuse. Table of Contents Contact Information C.A.H.R.A. Citizens Against Human Rights Abuse By Neurological and Electromagnetic Weapons Cheryl Welsh (530) 758-1626 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 915 Zaragoza St., Davis, CA 95616 Victims and Survivors, please email contact information to Cheryl in order to be notified of upcoming breakthroughs and important information. Table of Contents - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by
Re: [CTRL] Confirmation: Aliens Among Us?.
-Caveat Lector- I saw the show too and felt that it was, in some way, an effort to ease the public thinking into the view that the X Files are not all that crazy. How much of it was disinformation is hard to evaluate. Interesting though, that a major network would air this with an obvious seal of approval from the powers that be. JUDY GULSON -Original Message- From: Mark Pitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, February 18, 1999 10:22 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Confirmation: Aliens Among Us?. -Caveat Lector- Hello CTRL, I saw the show Confirmation last night and I must say that it left more unanswered questions than direct answers. In particular the Space Shuttle segments that clearly show objects of unknown origin couple with the fact that NASA stopped the live video feed of any missions after the fact. I also noted that the John Greenwald segment was really good with still more unanswered questions and obvious cover-up by the USA Government. As to the alien implant segments the jury is still out on this part as far as I am concerned. I personally do believe in UFO or more precisely visits from craft not of this Earth. I have personally seen craft of the not from Earth category on more than one Occasion. My most impressive sighting occurred in 1989 while camped in the woods outside of Grants Pass, Oregon. I witnessed a luminous object come over the ridge that made no sound and was extremely bright. The object moved out of sight before I could get my camera out to take a picture of it. However the next day I was on my way Back to Portland, Oregon and heard a radio account of and object that touched down near Portland, Oregon and was witnessed to travel south south west directly in line with the location I was camped out that Particular night in October 1989. In closing I would definitely say that yes the Government is covering up a huge issue of alien contact and I future have reason to believe that parts of the Worlds Governments probably do have treaties with beings or races from other worlds. I also have seen many a military installation with huge underground facilities. I Have even seen a map of a tunnel network within the continental USA that stretches from coast to coast and in some places across the border into Canada and Mexico. The location I saw the map was in a mobile trailer that had a stair case built inside of it. The mobile trailer was or still is located at the North La Junta, Colorado airport in a USA Air Force radar site installation. From the outside one would not have any reason to suspect a tunnel was even underneath the mobile trailer. Since it was of common construction type with skirting around the bottom of the trailer going all the way to the ground. Anyway this is my two cents worth for now Scott Bourassa wrote: Did anyone see this last night? Unfortunately, I was preoccupied, but would be interested in hearing the list's views, highlights, etc. Sgt Bee edit -- Mark Allen Pitt :) A.A.S. ;) aka Scroll lock *.* BBS ICQ number; 4861371 email; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page; http://www.geocities.com/Area51/9357 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives
