Re: [CTRL] [HOLY $H!T!! CHECK THIS!! ] Fw: NM: Condit: Gays, Bisexuals and Murder
-Caveat Lector- On Fri, 13 Jul 2001, MIKE SPITZER wrote: >> This scenario doesn't account for Levy disappearing >> without the security cameras in her building >> picking up anything...even if this supposed Caribbean >> black male prostitute waited outside, Levy would have >> been seen leaving her apartment and the building... > >Well, that would mean she (or her corps) had to be concealed somehow as >she/it left the building, or that she/it is still in the building, right? >Both scenarios seem to me to have an infinitesimal chance of being the >case?? If Levy is no longer in the building, she or her body had to have left it at some time on either 4/30 or 5/1, yet the building's 24-hour security system has no record of it. Neither does it show anyone having come to her apartment. Obviously she either had to have left her apartment under her own volition, or she was killed in her apartment and her body taken out. The fact that there is no record on the security system of her leaving the building or someone coming in, the possibility that she or body remained in the BUILDING (albeit not in her apartment) at least for some days after her parents first reported her missing has to be considered as a distinct possibility. I doubt that either she (if alive) or her body would still be there at this time, but she could have definitely been in another apartment in the building through the first and perhaps the 2nd week of May. After the initial police search of Levy's apartment and the public areas of the building, she or her body could have left the building unnoticed, because at that time attention was focused elsewhere... >And, a thorough search (i.e., 10 or more hrs. by a LARGE team, versus the 5 >guys that were actually there to search for ONLY 3 hours) would have shown >at least some evidence if she was killed in the apartment (or building, >*if* it was searched?). She probably wasn't killed (if indeed she is dead) in her own apartment. She could have gone to another apartment in the building (which the security system doesn't track) and have been killed there. Such a scenario would explain why she took her keys (so she could get back into her own locked apartment) and not her purse... Such a scenario is more likely than she would leave her purse behind to go riding on the back of a motorcycle... >Btw, my understanding of forensic searches these days (and I have an >extensive chemisty and analytical instrumentation background, i.e., several >degrees and career in the sales of such) is that it is virtually impossible >to "clean up" after a violent act anymore so as to not have at least some >evidence of the violence revealed via a state-of-the-art, thorough forensic >search. It is indeed impossible to completely clean up evidence of spilled blood. If Levy was strangled, given a hypodermic injection, had her head held under a full tub of water, or drank poison, there would be no blood to be cleaned up or to be detected by forensic methods. June === Check out Alternative Kite Radio at http://www.altkiteradio.trancetechno.com Alternative Kite Radio (low-bandwidth) Alternative Kite Radio (high-bandwidth) Alternative Kite Summer Beachparty Radio (it's always summer somewhere) Alternative Kite Holiday Radio (everyday's a holiday) === http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [HOLY $H!T!! CHECK THIS!! ] Fw: NM: Condit: Gays, Bisexuals and Murder
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: "YnrChyldzWyld" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 12:35 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] [HOLY $H!T!! CHECK THIS!! ] Fw: NM: Condit: Gays, Bisexuals and Murder > This scenario doesn't account for Levy disappearing > without the security cameras in her building > picking up anything...even if this supposed Caribbean > black male prostitute waited outside, Levy would have > been seen leaving her apartment and the building... Well, that would mean she (or her corps) had to be concealed somehow as she/it left the building, or that she/it is still in the building, right? Both scenarios seem to me to have an infinitesimal chance of being the case?? And, a thorough search (i.e., 10 or more hrs. by a LARGE team, versus the 5 guys that were actually there to search for ONLY 3 hours) would have shown at least some evidence if she was killed in the apartment (or building, *if* it was searched?). Btw, my understanding of forensic searches these days (and I have an extensive chemisty and analytical instrumentation background, i.e., several degrees and career in the sales of such) is that it is virtually impossible to "clean up" after a violent act anymore so as to not have at least some evidence of the violence revealed via a state-of-the-art, thorough forensic search. What's more, I would expect that if Condit didn't know this, that his team of lawyers would! === Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer*<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends === http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [HOLY $H!T!! CHECK THIS!! ] Fw: NM: Condit: Gays, Bisexuals and Murder
-Caveat Lector- >When it was determined that Chandra had to go, But WHY was it 'determined that Chandra had to go', and who exactly did the determining? >this guy was given the >assignment. He picked her up on his motorcycle, took off some where, killed >her, and dumped her body. Then, on orders from Condit and with money from >Condit, he headed back to Haiti or wherever he came from - far, far away >from investigators and the Feds." This scenario doesn't account for Levy disappearing without the security cameras in her building picking up anything...even if this supposed Caribbean black male prostitute waited outside, Levy would have been seen leaving her apartment and the building... >Some of his girlfriends obviously knew of this over the years; some >participated in the three-way sex. This explains his absolute paranoia over >any of the girls ever talking about their relationships with him. > >And it explains the fear we are now hearing about from not just the flight >attendant, Anne Marie Smith, but others, too. Enjoying 3-and-more-ways sex in and of itself doesn't explain the fear these women claim to be experiencing... >As for Chandra leaving her apartment with only her keys? As RJ put it, >"Perhaps the only time a woman would leave her purse behind would be to >ride on the back of a motorcycle." That's bullshit. Having ridden on the backs of motorcycles many times, I can tell you that I never had just my keys with me...I always had a small billfold with my ID and some pocket change in it in my pocket. This scenario also doesn't explain why she took that check for $54 with her... >If RJ's scenario if accurate then poor Chandra - and other Condit >girlfriends - have fallen into the sickest group of perverts imaginable. It seems to me that if these allegations of bisexuality on Condit's part are true, any women who partook in these 'gourmet' tastes did so with their eyes wide open...they definitely didn't "fall into" these activities but strolled boldly in without needing to be coerced... June Check out Alternative Kite Radio -- http://www.altkiteradio.trancetechno.com for: Alternative Kite Radio (low-bandwidth) Alternative Kite Radio (high-bandwidth) Alternative Kite Summer Beachparty Radio (because it's always summer somewhere on the globe) Alternative Kite Holiday Radio (because everyday is a holiday somewhere) http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [HOLY $H!T!! CHECK THIS!! ] Fw: NM: Condit: Gays, Bisexuals and Murder
-Caveat Lector- [As I said, this Condit is really some piece of work! SUPER FREAKY! And, btw, Bill Nalty is EXTREMELY reputable, i.e., a professional Beltway journalist! --MS] - Original Message - From: "Bill Nalty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 6:58 AM Subject: NM: Condit: Gays, Bisexuals and Murder This article was posted about 12am ET, and one hour later NewsMax decided to pull it. This URL is no longer valid. http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/7/12/225912.shtml NewsMax Friday, July 13, 2001 Condit: Gays, Bisexuals and Murder By John LeBoutillier Yesterday I spoke to "RJ" - an inside-the-Beltway source who, over the years, has never steered me wrong. RJ said, "John, do you know the true story of Gary Condit?" RJ continued then proceeeded to outline a scenario for what happened in this case:"Condit has been known inside the gay community here in DC for being a big, big user of gay male prostitutes - especially blacks from the Caribbean who ride motorcycles and love to wear black leather. "Condit lives in Adams Morgan - a terrible commute to and from the Hill - and it is a notorious neighborhood for gays and bisexuals. "Now, here is the dirty little secret behind the disappearance of Chandra Levy: Condit goes both ways. He likes to get sodomized by male prostitutes before having sex with women. The gay sex turns him on and he can then "perform" with women. "Condit had one particular Caribbean male prostitute that he frequented. When it was determined that Chandra had to go, this guy was given the assignment. He picked her up on his motorcycle, took off some where, killed her, and dumped her body. Then, on orders from Condit and with money from Condit, he headed back to Haiti or wherever he came from - far, far away from investigators and the Feds." The media has heard all of this - but has yet to report it. The other night, both Michael Issikoff of Newsweek and Tom Squitieri of USA TODAY referred to "dark aspects of this story that we can't report yet." Other media players are aware of all of this - and more: apparently Condit liked three-ways and even four-ways with himself, the male gay prostitute and two women. Some of his girlfriends obviously knew of this over the years; some participated in the three-way sex. This explains his absolute paranoia over any of the girls ever talking about their relationships with him. And it explains the fear we are now hearing about from not just the flight attendant, Anne Marie Smith, but others, too. This also explains why Abbe Lowell only wants one or two questions asked on the lie detector, such as, "Do you know what happened to Chandra?" Condit probably does not know - on purpose - what the gay male prostitute did with her - so he might very well successfully pass that question on a lie detector test. No wonder Lowell doesn't want wide-ranging questions. All of this horrible mess would soon be revealed and confirmed. As for Chandra leaving her apartment with only her keys? As RJ put it, "Perhaps the only time a woman would leave her purse behind would be to ride on the back of a motorcycle." Now, the big questions are these: 1) Is the FBI honestly investigating this absolutely perverted behavior and this scenario? 2) Do the Feds have the guts to pursue such a sick scenario? 3) Does the media - many of who already know much of this - report it - and expose this sick bisexual and gay behavior? Recently the Mainstream Media loves to portray gay victims of violent crime but often ignores gay perpetrators of violent crime. Will the media put aside their Politically Correct view of bi-sexualism and prostitution and tell the truth here? 4) Will the Feds track down this gay male black prostitute - or multiple gay prostitutes - who have had dealings with Condit? If RJ's scenario if accurate then poor Chandra - and other Condit girlfriends - have fallen into the sickest group of perverts imaginable. No wonder Condit, representing a conservative district, went bananas every time one of his girlfriends talked. Buckle your seatbelts: things are going to explode soon. All Rights Reserved © NewsMax.com === Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer*<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends === http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsemen
