Re: [CTRL] Alternative medicine cancer alternative treatments
-Caveat Lector- Excellent information Dave, thank you. Have you read Suppressed Inventions Other Discoveries by Jonathan Eisen? A very good book which covers suppressed cancer treatments (amongst other things) and documents the appalling harrassment and persecution handed out to some doctors/researchers/philanthropists who try to make these treatments available to the people suffering from cancer. Gavin. In a message dated 10/8/99 1:17:34 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Naomi, As I'm sure you are well aware, cancer has been successfully treated by homeopathy since the mid 1800's. I think that if someone asked me for my opinion on what to do if they had cancer... I'd suggest that they get a referral and go to India, where it would be possible to get homeopathic treatment without the legal harrassment that we find in the U.S. While my personal belief is that an excellent homoeopath would be the best resource, it is also apparent that there are a great number of other successful treatments available which have been in general, harshly suppressed by the AMA and the U.S. pharmaceutical/medical industrial/political complex. Note that it makes little sense for the "establishment" to support (or to even "allow" the existence of- from their elite/patrician viewpoint of "owning" the "healthcare marketplace") any alternatives to the $1 TRILLION per year medical industry- alternatives face an incredibly wealthy and completely unscrupuled and deadly opponent. NCI (National Cancer Institute) has a budget of $2.2 BILLION - they are a huge engine of deceit about cancer treatment; a predominantly government-TAXATION funded organ of propaganda and disinformation. In addition to the pain, suffering and loss of productivity inflicted by each case of cancer, there is also a lot of money involved. Considering that treatment costs $80,000 to $160,000 per person over the past twenty years, the cost adds up to $2 billion to $3.7 billion per year and 50,000,000 lives, or a total of $4 trillion to $7.5 trillion. The entire medical industry represents one-seventh of the total American GNP at one trillion dollars per year with revenues for all parties involved with cancer at $400 billion annually. Seventy year old author of "Cure for all Cancers" and alternative health researcher Dr. Hulda Clark has just been allowed to post bail after being arrested on a 6 year old warrant for practicing medicine without a license. She's a PhD and ND (naturopathic doctor). She could use your support, see: http://www.asheville-computer.com/issues/huldaclark.html In an excerpt from Edward Griffen's "World Without Cancer," we see some debunking of the death-dealing treatments supported by the NCI and the cancer industry (which EMPLOYS more persons than there are afflicted with cancer) : http://www.best.com/~handpen/Cancell/world.htm Edward Griffin is an excellent researcher and author. There is quite a bit of evidence that Laetrile (B-17; apricot seed extract) may be effective. Mr. Griffin's book many other little-known or suppressed works can be found at: http://realityzone.viamall.com/realityzone/healnut.html See this article on Charles Pixley (714x) http://www.thewinds.org/archive/medical/charles_pixley08-98.html Another author to read on the cancer topic is Ralph Moss. Almost 15 years ago, in his book "The Cancer Syndrome," Ralph Moss described the complex arrangement of interlocking committees, boards of directors, funding, and investments that enable industry to exert substantial influence over cancer research and advocacy. The types of conflict of interest which Moss described are still in effect today, as are a few new ones. http://home.sol.no/~dusan/cancer_dr_moss.html (interview) This is an excellent site with a lot of general info,as well as specific info on Cancell http://www.best.com/~handpen/Cancell/cancell.htm another, lots of info on the cancer industry and on alternatives: http://home.sol.no/~dusan/cancerpage.html for more on apricot seeds see also: http://www.worldwithoutcancer.net/ http://apricotsfromgod.com/ Some other cancer treatment alternatives: http://www.rrrs.com/ (Rife machine research) http://www.frankmilitary.com/ oxygen therapy... cancerous cells cannot use oxygen, and may be killed by it http://www.oxytherapy.com/ http://pages.prodigy.net/thornton/cancer/oxygen.htm http://www.cerbe.com/pr01imga.htm (714x) Also (of course) TCM (traditional chinese medicine) and Ayurveda (traditional wholistic medicine of India). I've got some more links around here somewhere- but it's late now- mebbe next time ! Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its
[CTRL] Alternative medicine cancer alternative treatments
-Caveat Lector- Hi Naomi, As I'm sure you are well aware, cancer has been successfully treated by homeopathy since the mid 1800's. I think that if someone asked me for my opinion on what to do if they had cancer... I'd suggest that they get a referral and go to India, where it would be possible to get homeopathic treatment without the legal harrassment that we find in the U.S. While my personal belief is that an excellent homoeopath would be the best resource, it is also apparent that there are a great number of other successful treatments available which have been in general, harshly suppressed by the AMA and the U.S. pharmaceutical/medical industrial/political complex. Note that it makes little sense for the "establishment" to support (or to even "allow" the existence of- from their elite/patrician viewpoint of "owning" the "healthcare marketplace") any alternatives to the $1 TRILLION per year medical industry- alternatives face an incredibly wealthy and completely unscrupuled and deadly opponent. NCI (National Cancer Institute) has a budget of $2.2 BILLION - they are a huge engine of deceit about cancer treatment; a predominantly government-TAXATION funded organ of propaganda and disinformation. In addition to the pain, suffering and loss of productivity inflicted by each case of cancer, there is also a lot of money involved. Considering that treatment costs $80,000 to $160,000 per person over the past twenty years, the cost adds up to $2 billion to $3.7 billion per year and 50,000,000 lives, or a total of $4 trillion to $7.5 trillion. The entire medical industry represents one-seventh of the total American GNP at one trillion dollars per year with revenues for all parties involved with cancer at $400 billion annually. Seventy year old author of "Cure for all Cancers" and alternative health researcher Dr. Hulda Clark has just been allowed to post bail after being arrested on a 6 year old warrant for practicing medicine without a license. She's a PhD and ND (naturopathic doctor). She could use your support, see: http://www.asheville-computer.com/issues/huldaclark.html In an excerpt from Edward Griffen's "World Without Cancer," we see some debunking of the death-dealing treatments supported by the NCI and the cancer industry (which EMPLOYS more persons than there are afflicted with cancer) : http://www.best.com/~handpen/Cancell/world.htm Edward Griffin is an excellent researcher and author. There is quite a bit of evidence that Laetrile (B-17; apricot seed extract) may be effective. Mr. Griffin's book many other little-known or suppressed works can be found at: http://realityzone.viamall.com/realityzone/healnut.html See this article on Charles Pixley (714x) http://www.thewinds.org/archive/medical/charles_pixley08-98.html Another author to read on the cancer topic is Ralph Moss. Almost 15 years ago, in his book "The Cancer Syndrome," Ralph Moss described the complex arrangement of interlocking committees, boards of directors, funding, and investments that enable industry to exert substantial influence over cancer research and advocacy. The types of conflict of interest which Moss described are still in effect today, as are a few new ones. http://home.sol.no/~dusan/cancer_dr_moss.html (interview) This is an excellent site with a lot of general info,as well as specific info on Cancell http://www.best.com/~handpen/Cancell/cancell.htm another, lots of info on the cancer industry and on alternatives: http://home.sol.no/~dusan/cancerpage.html for more on apricot seeds see also: http://www.worldwithoutcancer.net/ http://apricotsfromgod.com/ Some other cancer treatment alternatives: http://www.rrrs.com/ (Rife machine research) http://www.frankmilitary.com/ oxygen therapy... cancerous cells cannot use oxygen, and may be killed by it http://www.oxytherapy.com/ http://pages.prodigy.net/thornton/cancer/oxygen.htm http://www.cerbe.com/pr01imga.htm (714x) Also (of course) TCM (traditional chinese medicine) and Ayurveda (traditional wholistic medicine of India). I've got some more links around here somewhere- but it's late now- mebbe next time ! Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart -Original Message- From: Naomi Bare [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 07, 1999 9:44 AM To: Dave Hartley (Hom.) Subject: Fw: Can Apricot Seeds stop cancer? I got this e-mail in, just wanted to foward it to you to read and see what you think on this. Any validity whatsoever do you think or just a bunch of ?? Naomi - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 1999 9:33 AM Subject: Can Apricot Seeds stop cancer? There are many web sites out there that are showing that the answer to cancer has been known. Some of the companies that tell the truth about cancer are Christian Brothers, Something 4U and World Without Cancer Inc. These companies have been showing the evidence that when a
[CTRL] Alternative medicine
-Caveat Lector- I suspect there is no money (profit) in botanicals or homeopathic preparations for llarge firms. They cannot be patented. So why would a pharmaceutical firm even think about homeopathy and botanicals?. And people have gotten used to instant relief.which allopathic chemicals can achieve.. Alternates are essentially preventatives. Ive had a bottle of peppermint oil for ten years. At 2 drops a dose when needed the bottle will outlive me. Ive had a bottle of echinacea worth $8.00 for a year and its still half full At 3 drops a dose twice a week nobody is going to get rich.It works for me and my wallet. If anyone wants to call that gullible its OK by me Whether its a placebo, immune booster or magic is irrelevant. These work for me in specific applications. Then we have those who want to push applications to absurdity. Alternative medicine works for colds, aches and pains, joints, blood pressureall the annoying daily annoyances (but expensive). If you break a leg or acquire ebola...the emergency room is the place to go. Its a matter of balance. Choose what works for you.. Another point: hormone mimickers in milk ( from cattle feed additive) point to the rise in breast cancer rates. Washington scientists have been iinstructed not to discuss latest findings which point to a linkl Why? Because Monsanto stands to lose a bundle.? ASU DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Alternative medicine
-Caveat Lector- One of the interesting things I was reading in a medical article was that for most common diseases for which people seek a cure(not ebola or aids or such like), the placebo effect accounts for about 30% of the cuarive effect. when the companies measue an effect, they meaure the difference between the old medicine and the placebo effect. Hence if the placebo effect is 30% and the old is say 35 % if the new medicine is 40% curative , they talk about the drug being twice as effective. However I speak under correction as this is not my field of knowledge. As an aside I listened once to a prof at medicine talking with a naturopath about the Hays diet. He called it nonsense but admitted that it had never been tested in controlled experiments. The drug companies had no incentive to investigate and the work had never been done. John (and'm not on the hays diet either) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 28 September 1999 10:04 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] Alternative medicine -Caveat Lector- I suspect there is no money (profit) in botanicals or homeopathic preparations for llarge firms. They cannot be patented. So why would a pharmaceutical firm even think about homeopathy and botanicals?. And people have gotten used to instant relief.which allopathic chemicals can achieve.. Alternates are essentially preventatives. Ive had a bottle of peppermint oil for ten years. At 2 drops a dose when needed the bottle will outlive me. Ive had a bottle of echinacea worth $8.00 for a year and its still half full At 3 drops a dose twice a week nobody is going to get rich.It works for me and my wallet. If anyone wants to call that gullible its OK by me Whether its a placebo, immune booster or magic is irrelevant. These work for me in specific applications. Then we have those who want to push applications to absurdity. Alternative medicine works for colds, aches and pains, joints, blood pressureall the annoying daily annoyances (but expensive). If you break a leg or acquire ebola...the emergency room is the place to go. Its a matter of balance. Choose what works for you.. Another point: hormone mimickers in milk ( from cattle feed additive) point to the rise in breast cancer rates. Washington scientists have been iinstructed not to discuss latest findings which point to a linkl Why? Because Monsanto stands to lose a bundle.? ASU DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
