Re: [CTRL] Antisemitic vs. Prosemitic means ?

2002-02-02 Thread Nurev Ind

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Party of Citizens wrote:

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 On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, Nurev Ind wrote:

  Party of Citizens wrote:
 
   On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, inri wrote:
  
  Correction-that's how could ANY follower of Christ not be
  antisemite?
   
christ was semitic.
   
how do you reconcile this?
  
   I know what you are saying but that is not how the Real Semites like J2
   define the word. To them, even that Palestinian Imam with the shnozola
   which would be the envy of Klinger on Mash is an antisemite. Thus
   these Real Semites have coined the word to mean, Those who are against
   us. What means us? Us means the Cult of Herod. Herod built Masada
   into a magnificent and powerful palatial centre and a last fortified
   retreat in case of all-out attack. That is exactly how his Edomite Nation
   used it when the Romans invaded. Much earlier the Romans had forced a
   merger of the Israelites and Edomites. Today the Edomite Army of Israel
   takes its oath of office at Masada under the new Herod, Sharon. The Real
   Israelites of 2,000 years ago took on the name Christians even though at
   first there were those like Saul/Paul who retained the identity as Jews
   and Israelites (in Paul's case the Tribe of Benjamin). Since Vatican has
   rejected Christ as the foundation of its faith, they have decreed that
   antisemitism is a grave sin. All it means is standing up for the True
   Israelite faith which is what Christ carried forward (eg in saying I came
   only to find the lost sheep of Israel) and being anti- those who are
   against Christ and His teachings as are the people of the Cult of Herod.
   I can hear J2 gnashing his teeth all the way from here. The saga of bile
   and bullshit continues.
  
   POC'ster
   (Learned Elder of Zion)
 
  Saga of bile and bullshit is right Dr. Poley. Not even ONE point in the bullshit
  above is either true or historical. Not even one.
 
  You can dazzle some of these clowns with your dizzying diatribes of demented
  dumbness, but Poley you are a joke. There is not even ONE point which is
  correct.
 
  You write more convincingly than Colleen, but she has an excuse. She's a moron.
  You are just an inept propagandist.

 Dear FUC:

 Razzle, dazzle us with some of your cogent rebuttals. Just take it a point
 at a time instead of trying such a moronic, broad-brush put-down.

 POC
 (Learned Elders of Zion)

No thanks. We've been through this little game already. I'm not interested
in going through it again.

Chuck U.

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Re: [CTRL] Antisemitic vs. Prosemitic means ?

2002-02-01 Thread Nurev Ind

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Party of Citizens wrote:

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 On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, inri wrote:

Correction-that's how could ANY follower of Christ not be
antisemite?
 
  christ was semitic.
 
  how do you reconcile this?

 I know what you are saying but that is not how the Real Semites like J2
 define the word. To them, even that Palestinian Imam with the shnozola
 which would be the envy of Klinger on Mash is an antisemite. Thus
 these Real Semites have coined the word to mean, Those who are against
 us. What means us? Us means the Cult of Herod. Herod built Masada
 into a magnificent and powerful palatial centre and a last fortified
 retreat in case of all-out attack. That is exactly how his Edomite Nation
 used it when the Romans invaded. Much earlier the Romans had forced a
 merger of the Israelites and Edomites. Today the Edomite Army of Israel
 takes its oath of office at Masada under the new Herod, Sharon. The Real
 Israelites of 2,000 years ago took on the name Christians even though at
 first there were those like Saul/Paul who retained the identity as Jews
 and Israelites (in Paul's case the Tribe of Benjamin). Since Vatican has
 rejected Christ as the foundation of its faith, they have decreed that
 antisemitism is a grave sin. All it means is standing up for the True
 Israelite faith which is what Christ carried forward (eg in saying I came
 only to find the lost sheep of Israel) and being anti- those who are
 against Christ and His teachings as are the people of the Cult of Herod.
 I can hear J2 gnashing his teeth all the way from here. The saga of bile
 and bullshit continues.

 POC'ster
 (Learned Elder of Zion)

Saga of bile and bullshit is right Dr. Poley. Not even ONE point in the bullshit
above is either true or historical. Not even one.

You can dazzle some of these clowns with your dizzying diatribes of demented
dumbness, but Poley you are a joke. There is not even ONE point which is
correct.

You write more convincingly than Colleen, but she has an excuse. She's a moron.
You are just an inept propagandist.

J2

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Re: [CTRL] Antisemitic vs. Prosemitic means ?

2002-02-01 Thread thew

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 Since Vatican has
 rejected Christ as the foundation of its faith,


it has?

how?

I don't get it.
really.

What is the foundation of faith then?

I am confused.

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Re: [CTRL] Antisemitic vs. Prosemitic means ?

2002-02-01 Thread Party of Citizens

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On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, thew wrote:

 Truth is more of a stranger than fiction. -- Mark Twain

Veritas odium parit-Roman saying, ie Truth begets hatred.

  Since Vatican has
  rejected Christ as the foundation of its faith,

 it has?

 how?

 I don't get it.
 really.

 What is the foundation of faith then?

 I am confused.

It says Antisemitism is a grave sin. That incapacitates the entire field
which to theologians give the fancy name of Christian Apologetics.
Christian Apologetics means defending the faith with reasoned arguments.
When I argue theology with these Semites I am against them, ie
Antisemitic by definition. Vatican has said that is a grave offense. Not
just a little mistake...a GRAVE sin. A grave sin to defend the teachings
of Christ from attackers? How can it be a Christian organization, then?
Don't Buddhists defend Buddha from ideological attacks? Don't Marxists
defend Marx from ideological attacks? But Christians cannot defend Christ
from ideological attacks by Semites. How can the Vatican then say it
stands FOR the teachings of Christ?
POC

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Re: [CTRL] Antisemitic vs. Prosemitic means ?

2002-02-01 Thread Party of Citizens

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On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, Nurev Ind wrote:

 Party of Citizens wrote:

  On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, inri wrote:
 
 Correction-that's how could ANY follower of Christ not be
 antisemite?
  
   christ was semitic.
  
   how do you reconcile this?
 
  I know what you are saying but that is not how the Real Semites like J2
  define the word. To them, even that Palestinian Imam with the shnozola
  which would be the envy of Klinger on Mash is an antisemite. Thus
  these Real Semites have coined the word to mean, Those who are against
  us. What means us? Us means the Cult of Herod. Herod built Masada
  into a magnificent and powerful palatial centre and a last fortified
  retreat in case of all-out attack. That is exactly how his Edomite Nation
  used it when the Romans invaded. Much earlier the Romans had forced a
  merger of the Israelites and Edomites. Today the Edomite Army of Israel
  takes its oath of office at Masada under the new Herod, Sharon. The Real
  Israelites of 2,000 years ago took on the name Christians even though at
  first there were those like Saul/Paul who retained the identity as Jews
  and Israelites (in Paul's case the Tribe of Benjamin). Since Vatican has
  rejected Christ as the foundation of its faith, they have decreed that
  antisemitism is a grave sin. All it means is standing up for the True
  Israelite faith which is what Christ carried forward (eg in saying I came
  only to find the lost sheep of Israel) and being anti- those who are
  against Christ and His teachings as are the people of the Cult of Herod.
  I can hear J2 gnashing his teeth all the way from here. The saga of bile
  and bullshit continues.
 
  POC'ster
  (Learned Elder of Zion)

 Saga of bile and bullshit is right Dr. Poley. Not even ONE point in the bullshit
 above is either true or historical. Not even one.

 You can dazzle some of these clowns with your dizzying diatribes of demented
 dumbness, but Poley you are a joke. There is not even ONE point which is
 correct.

 You write more convincingly than Colleen, but she has an excuse. She's a moron.
 You are just an inept propagandist.

Dear FUC:

Razzle, dazzle us with some of your cogent rebuttals. Just take it a point
at a time instead of trying such a moronic, broad-brush put-down.

POC
(Learned Elders of Zion)

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Re: [CTRL] Antisemitic vs. Prosemitic means ?

2002-01-31 Thread William Shannon
In a message dated 1/30/02 8:10:31 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Michael Hoffman, Bill Shannon, and YOU. Of course.
Prosemites are racists who hate Jews ( anti-semites ) and pretend that
they like Arabs, when all they really want is a venue to hate Jews.

As usual you are incorrect Zev.
I don't have any problem with Jewish folk, some of my favorite entertainers are Jewish. My problem, as you well know, is with Zionism. Since you cannot defend the racist practice of Zionism, the criminal behaviour of the Israeli government, the sheer hypocrisy of that state, you namecall, it shows your desperation.

Bill.


Re: [CTRL] Antisemitic vs. Prosemitic means ?

2002-01-30 Thread Party of Citizens

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On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, inri wrote:

   Correction-that's how could ANY follower of Christ not be
   antisemite?

 christ was semitic.

 how do you reconcile this?

I know what you are saying but that is not how the Real Semites like J2
define the word. To them, even that Palestinian Imam with the shnozola
which would be the envy of Klinger on Mash is an antisemite. Thus
these Real Semites have coined the word to mean, Those who are against
us. What means us? Us means the Cult of Herod. Herod built Masada
into a magnificent and powerful palatial centre and a last fortified
retreat in case of all-out attack. That is exactly how his Edomite Nation
used it when the Romans invaded. Much earlier the Romans had forced a
merger of the Israelites and Edomites. Today the Edomite Army of Israel
takes its oath of office at Masada under the new Herod, Sharon. The Real
Israelites of 2,000 years ago took on the name Christians even though at
first there were those like Saul/Paul who retained the identity as Jews
and Israelites (in Paul's case the Tribe of Benjamin). Since Vatican has
rejected Christ as the foundation of its faith, they have decreed that
antisemitism is a grave sin. All it means is standing up for the True
Israelite faith which is what Christ carried forward (eg in saying I came
only to find the lost sheep of Israel) and being anti- those who are
against Christ and His teachings as are the people of the Cult of Herod.
I can hear J2 gnashing his teeth all the way from here. The saga of bile
and bullshit continues.

POC'ster
(Learned Elder of Zion)

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Re: [CTRL] Antisemitic vs. Prosemitic means ?

2002-01-30 Thread Nurev Ind

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Party of Citizens wrote:

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 If chosen ones can coin the neologism, antisemitic can I not coin
 prosemitic? I want to be as approved of by the chosenites as
 possible. Tell me what a good prosemite would be like?
 POC

Michael Hoffman, Bill Shannon, and YOU. Of course.
Prosemites are racists who hate Jews ( anti-semites ) and pretend that
they like Arabs, when all they really want is a venue to hate Jews.

How's that  Doc ?

Chuck U.

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[CTRL] Antisemitic vs. Prosemitic means ?

2002-01-29 Thread Party of Citizens

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If chosen ones can coin the neologism, antisemitic can I not coin
prosemitic? I want to be as approved of by the chosenites as
possible. Tell me what a good prosemite would be like?
POC

On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, Party of Citizens wrote:

 Correction-that's how could ANY follower of Christ not be
 antisemite?

 Biliously yours,
 POC

 On Sun, 27 Jan 2002, Party of Citizens wrote:

  -- Forwarded message --
  Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 14:49:24 -0800 (PST)
  From: Party of Citizens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [LIFE-GAZETTE] Buchanan, Antisemite?
 
  Why do they send him compliments like this? Given that these semites are
  antichrist by their own admission, how could ANY follower of Christ not be
  anti-antisemite?
  POC
 
  -- Forwarded message --
  Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 15:29:02 -0600
  From: David H. Sandlin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Reply-To: DAVID H. SANDLIN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: J. R. Colson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: bigguy [EMAIL PROTECTED],
   Bob from Michigan [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
   [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: Textbook case of.
 
  My response. Hopefully it will be posted. We'll see.
 
  Letters to the editor  reader's forum.
 
  Pat Buchanan, His Fans, and Anti-Semitism, Jan 25, 2002
 
  No doubt what Hitler did directly to the Jews was wrong. He could have forcibly
  shipped the Jews elsewhere right? But, if Buchanan speaks true facts, then what is 
the
  problem? Or are the facts the problem? Lies are taught in school everyday. How
  about the financing of the Nazi regime by the Rothchilds  other similar interest?
  True or false? Tell us about Stephen Wise  his response to Germany. He knew what
  he doing would lead to further problems, but he did what he did anyway. (You do
  know about this man, right?) After what he did, things went from bad to worse for 
the
  Jews. Tell me where the Jews could have gone  didn't? They chose to stay in
  Germany didn't they? It's time the facts be told. No one with half a brain will 
deny
  what happened to the Jews in WWII, but let's hear the rest of the story  don't 
stretch
  the truth on what really happed to the Jews in Germany either. There is a lot to be
  told. How about all of the non-Jews that died  why don't we hear about them? It is
  ALWAYS only the Jews, isn't it? In fact, there is a whole industry to drill this 
into
  our heads, right? How about the Ukrainian  Chinese holocaust? No movies are
  made about them are there? It's only the Jews. H. If Buchanan speaks the
  truth, then so be it. Whites have a right to live in their own countries w/o having
  multi-culturalim forced on them, JUST LIKE ANY OTHER COUNTRY. Don't like
  it? Tuff. The German culture was being detroyed just like white culture in this
  country is being destroyed. See a pattern? Do the research. I have. So has 
Buchanan.
  Have you? How about the white slavery going on in Israel? Have any comments on
  this? The list goes on  on. Shall I continue?
 
  On 25 Jan 2002 at 14:11, J. R. Colson wrote:
 
  
  
   http://www.frontpagemag.com/columnists/glazov/2002/glazov01-25-02.htm
  
   This essay by Jamie Glazovseems important to post at various websites, because it
   concerns such a great example of right-wing Jews NOT being in our camp, but 
instead
   fighting for only their own race--not religion.
  
   Glazov wrote two items about PatBuchanan: a negativeessay about Buchanan's new
   book,and a response to people who wrote in callingthe issuecorrectly.
  
   See the conservative, butJewish-by-race, Jamie Glazov blast ANYTHING written by
   Whites that even APPEARS TO BE RACIAL! Not justpolitical, folks--specifically
   racial!If it appears that many gentile, Christianright-wingers might read, and 
thenagree
   with, Pat Buchanan's theory about Whites being doomed in the West, right-wing 
Jews
   MUST BLAST IT, AND GLAZOV DID. Horowitz also does this. All theJews at
   FrontPageMag do this. The neoconservative movement is almost all Jewish. they
   dominate theNational Review, the Weekly Standard, the Wall Street Journal,etc. 
Hard-
   core rightist? Nope. Soft-core Yiddish.
  
   People, get a clue--Jews are Jews, left-wing or right-wing.They are incredibly
   ethnocentric and racist, there have profoundinborn paranoia,and look after their 
own race
   AT THE EXPENSE OF WHITES, and like no other race!
  
   You mainstream conservatives had better realize what is happening. Wimpy, 
ethnocentric
   Jews have all but taken over (yes, taken over) the conservative movement. The 
big
   problem is, they are NOT hard-core conservatives, they are wimps who are 
pro-abortion,
   pro-multiculturalism, and have a specificagenda ALL THEIR OWN: to make America
   free from any possible anti-Semitism. That is their historic goal.That goalis 
with them
   24/7.
  
   Jews are racially and 

Re: [CTRL] Antisemitic vs. Prosemitic means ?

2002-01-29 Thread inri

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  Correction-that's how could ANY follower of Christ not be
  antisemite?

christ was semitic.

how do you reconcile this?

inri
np:

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