Re: [CTRL] Christian Identity undergoes a revival inarea,experts say
-Caveat Lector- Very well stated, Mr. Davis. On Sun, 4 Jul 1999, Howard R. Davis III wrote: -Caveat Lector- Mr. Lee: If one makes an assertion of a historical fact and is challanged by another to show the basis of that assertion the providing of a long list of books to research, it should surprize no one that the person questioning the truth of that assertion remains unconvinced. Whether or not you are correct certainly interests me. However, I would hope that if, in fact, you have any truth to contribute to this forum, that you will provide more basis to your assertions than lists of books. As one who has, in fact, tried to verify through my own research some of the claims of those who rever Hitler, I feel that I have, in fact, done sufficient research to understand where you are coming from. I spent several months studying the claims of those who deny that the Nazis used gas chambers to kill masses of Jewish (and other) people. I studied especially the claims of David Irving and the Lectner report. In doing so, my understanding of the Hitler phenomana was greatly deepened. Exposure to the arguements of various "deniers" eventually convinced me that this whole thing was not a question of rationality, but of spirituality. Though previously I had little belief in demon possession, I eventually came to the realization that those who have embraced these beliefs have done so for reasons beyond any explanable by the use of logic. Exposure to the rituals of the SS and the occult basis of the Hitlerian philosophy has convinced me that those who have come under his sway are possessed by some sort of evil which I had not before understood to be possible. I pity them and you. Howard Davis -- From: John Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Christian Identity undergoes a revival inarea,experts say Date: Fri, Jun 25, 1999, 4:43 AM -Caveat Lector- Dear Mr. Davis, Like I said, I'll not do your research for you. Read Mullins on the Federal Reserve; Red Fog Over America by Carr; Iron Curtain Over America by Beaty; Secrets of the Federal Reserve by Mullins; On The Horns of the Beast by Still; Pawns In The game by Carr; The Empire Of The City by Knuth; You Gentiles by Samuel, for starters. The German Central Bank before Hitler was a private bank as is our own Fed Res Bank. Hitler changed that. I'm not sure how Hitler traded with other countries. It may have been barter or it may have been gold and silver or other precious metals or stones. It is not necessary to be on a gold standard to use gold as a medium of exchange. Any "standard" merely guarantees there is enough of something that has a set value everyone agrees to that sets the value of exchange between nations or other entities. It could be salt, for that matter, or any other commodity suitable to all involved, thus a guaranteed standard of exchange exists. Hitler's, Lincoln's and Kennedy's treasury bills drew no interest for Bankers and, in my opinion, got these three killed. Also, bankers were not able to use the fractional reserve to increase their profits by margin of 10. Now then, I do not know everything about the area of history of which we speak. I do, however, know enough to believe Hitler was not what he is being propagandized as today. Agree or not, it doesn't matter to me. John Lee - Original Message - From: Howard R. Davis III [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 8:07 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Christian Identity undergoes a revival inarea,experts say -Caveat Lector- John Lee wrote: Mr. Davis, The difference between Hitler's "money" and Roosevelt's "money" is considerable. German currency was state owned and issued, based upon the assets and production of the nation, whereas Roosevelt's was from the Federal Reserve, a privately owned national bank, as it still is today. All money used in America and the world today is borrowed from some private bank. I am quite familiar with your basic thesis concerning the operation of central banks. However, you state the the German currency was state owned and issued and apparently not borrowed as is normal policy in the central bank system. This would as you suggested be similar to Lincoln's policy of issueing "greenbacks" which were neither borrowed or backed by specie. And, it would also be similar to what JFK did when he issued several hundred million dollars in Treasury notes not long before he was killed. However, I have never heard this assertion made previously and would like to know where you got this information and whether or not it is true. The Federal Reserve bank of the US was paterned after that of Germany's and one of the Warburg brothers ran it while the other pushed for the ad
Re: [CTRL] Christian Identity undergoes a revival inarea,experts say
-Caveat Lector- Mr. Lee: If one makes an assertion of a historical fact and is challanged by another to show the basis of that assertion the providing of a long list of books to research, it should surprize no one that the person questioning the truth of that assertion remains unconvinced. Whether or not you are correct certainly interests me. However, I would hope that if, in fact, you have any truth to contribute to this forum, that you will provide more basis to your assertions than lists of books. As one who has, in fact, tried to verify through my own research some of the claims of those who rever Hitler, I feel that I have, in fact, done sufficient research to understand where you are coming from. I spent several months studying the claims of those who deny that the Nazis used gas chambers to kill masses of Jewish (and other) people. I studied especially the claims of David Irving and the Lectner report. In doing so, my understanding of the Hitler phenomana was greatly deepened. Exposure to the arguements of various "deniers" eventually convinced me that this whole thing was not a question of rationality, but of spirituality. Though previously I had little belief in demon possession, I eventually came to the realization that those who have embraced these beliefs have done so for reasons beyond any explanable by the use of logic. Exposure to the rituals of the SS and the occult basis of the Hitlerian philosophy has convinced me that those who have come under his sway are possessed by some sort of evil which I had not before understood to be possible. I pity them and you. Howard Davis -- From: John Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Christian Identity undergoes a revival inarea,experts say Date: Fri, Jun 25, 1999, 4:43 AM -Caveat Lector- Dear Mr. Davis, Like I said, I'll not do your research for you. Read Mullins on the Federal Reserve; Red Fog Over America by Carr; Iron Curtain Over America by Beaty; Secrets of the Federal Reserve by Mullins; On The Horns of the Beast by Still; Pawns In The game by Carr; The Empire Of The City by Knuth; You Gentiles by Samuel, for starters. The German Central Bank before Hitler was a private bank as is our own Fed Res Bank. Hitler changed that. I'm not sure how Hitler traded with other countries. It may have been barter or it may have been gold and silver or other precious metals or stones. It is not necessary to be on a gold standard to use gold as a medium of exchange. Any "standard" merely guarantees there is enough of something that has a set value everyone agrees to that sets the value of exchange between nations or other entities. It could be salt, for that matter, or any other commodity suitable to all involved, thus a guaranteed standard of exchange exists. Hitler's, Lincoln's and Kennedy's treasury bills drew no interest for Bankers and, in my opinion, got these three killed. Also, bankers were not able to use the fractional reserve to increase their profits by margin of 10. Now then, I do not know everything about the area of history of which we speak. I do, however, know enough to believe Hitler was not what he is being propagandized as today. Agree or not, it doesn't matter to me. John Lee - Original Message - From: Howard R. Davis III [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 8:07 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Christian Identity undergoes a revival inarea,experts say -Caveat Lector- John Lee wrote: Mr. Davis, The difference between Hitler's "money" and Roosevelt's "money" is considerable. German currency was state owned and issued, based upon the assets and production of the nation, whereas Roosevelt's was from the Federal Reserve, a privately owned national bank, as it still is today. All money used in America and the world today is borrowed from some private bank. I am quite familiar with your basic thesis concerning the operation of central banks. However, you state the the German currency was state owned and issued and apparently not borrowed as is normal policy in the central bank system. This would as you suggested be similar to Lincoln's policy of issueing "greenbacks" which were neither borrowed or backed by specie. And, it would also be similar to what JFK did when he issued several hundred million dollars in Treasury notes not long before he was killed. However, I have never heard this assertion made previously and would like to know where you got this information and whether or not it is true. The Federal Reserve bank of the US was paterned after that of Germany's and one of the Warburg brothers ran it while the other pushed for the adoption of the system in the US. So, apparently they did have that system previous to Hitler's coming to power in 1933. If Hitler did end the central reserve banking system in Germany
Re: [CTRL] Christian Identity undergoes a revival inarea,experts say
-Caveat Lector- Dear Mr. Davis, Like I said, I'll not do your research for you. Read Mullins on the Federal Reserve; Red Fog Over America by Carr; Iron Curtain Over America by Beaty; Secrets of the Federal Reserve by Mullins; On The Horns of the Beast by Still; Pawns In The game by Carr; The Empire Of The City by Knuth; You Gentiles by Samuel, for starters. The German Central Bank before Hitler was a private bank as is our own Fed Res Bank. Hitler changed that. I'm not sure how Hitler traded with other countries. It may have been barter or it may have been gold and silver or other precious metals or stones. It is not necessary to be on a gold standard to use gold as a medium of exchange. Any "standard" merely guarantees there is enough of something that has a set value everyone agrees to that sets the value of exchange between nations or other entities. It could be salt, for that matter, or any other commodity suitable to all involved, thus a guaranteed standard of exchange exists. Hitler's, Lincoln's and Kennedy's treasury bills drew no interest for Bankers and, in my opinion, got these three killed. Also, bankers were not able to use the fractional reserve to increase their profits by margin of 10. Now then, I do not know everything about the area of history of which we speak. I do, however, know enough to believe Hitler was not what he is being propagandized as today. Agree or not, it doesn't matter to me. John Lee - Original Message - From: Howard R. Davis III [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 8:07 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Christian Identity undergoes a revival inarea,experts say -Caveat Lector- John Lee wrote: Mr. Davis, The difference between Hitler's "money" and Roosevelt's "money" is considerable. German currency was state owned and issued, based upon the assets and production of the nation, whereas Roosevelt's was from the Federal Reserve, a privately owned national bank, as it still is today. All money used in America and the world today is borrowed from some private bank. I am quite familiar with your basic thesis concerning the operation of central banks. However, you state the the German currency was state owned and issued and apparently not borrowed as is normal policy in the central bank system. This would as you suggested be similar to Lincoln's policy of issueing "greenbacks" which were neither borrowed or backed by specie. And, it would also be similar to what JFK did when he issued several hundred million dollars in Treasury notes not long before he was killed. However, I have never heard this assertion made previously and would like to know where you got this information and whether or not it is true. The Federal Reserve bank of the US was paterned after that of Germany's and one of the Warburg brothers ran it while the other pushed for the adoption of the system in the US. So, apparently they did have that system previous to Hitler's coming to power in 1933. If Hitler did end the central reserve banking system in Germany then that certainly would be a reason for certain of the elite to be profoundly upset. However, you also stated that Germany " went off the international gold standard that was, and is, controlled by international Jewish banking". First, how would it then be possible for Germany to trade with other countries, if, in fact, they had gone off the gold standard which was still in effect at the time? Did they barter? And, since there no longer is a gold standard, how can it be controlled by "Jewish banking". You also state that the "World Jewish Congress declared WAR on Germany." Where and when did they meet and vote this declaration of war? What was the effect of this declaration of war? Considering that five years later Hitler got Austria and the next year Checkloslavakia, it seems there was not much to this "war". (Also, we know that American bankers such as Prescot Bush, Aviral Harriman, and the Dulles brothers were investing heavily in Germany (weren't they part of this "international jewish banking)). And, no real effort to stop Hitler was put forward by the countries which are supposedly under the control of these "international Jewish banking" until Hitler invaded Poland. (And if you have read "Mein Kampf" you will know that Hitler had planned on expanding Germany's borders to the east since 1924. Howard Davis DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives
Re: [CTRL] Christian Identity undergoes a revival inarea,experts say
-Caveat Lector- John Lee wrote: Mr. Davis, The difference between Hitler's "money" and Roosevelt's "money" is considerable. German currency was state owned and issued, based upon the assets and production of the nation, whereas Roosevelt's was from the Federal Reserve, a privately owned national bank, as it still is today. All money used in America and the world today is borrowed from some private bank. I am quite familiar with your basic thesis concerning the operation of central banks. However, you state the the German currency was state owned and issued and apparently not borrowed as is normal policy in the central bank system. This would as you suggested be similar to Lincoln's policy of issueing "greenbacks" which were neither borrowed or backed by specie. And, it would also be similar to what JFK did when he issued several hundred million dollars in Treasury notes not long before he was killed. However, I have never heard this assertion made previously and would like to know where you got this information and whether or not it is true. The Federal Reserve bank of the US was paterned after that of Germany's and one of the Warburg brothers ran it while the other pushed for the adoption of the system in the US. So, apparently they did have that system previous to Hitler's coming to power in 1933. If Hitler did end the central reserve banking system in Germany then that certainly would be a reason for certain of the elite to be profoundly upset. However, you also stated that Germany " went off the international gold standard that was, and is, controlled by international Jewish banking". First, how would it then be possible for Germany to trade with other countries, if, in fact, they had gone off the gold standard which was still in effect at the time? Did they barter? And, since there no longer is a gold standard, how can it be controlled by "Jewish banking". You also state that the "World Jewish Congress declared WAR on Germany." Where and when did they meet and vote this declaration of war? What was the effect of this declaration of war? Considering that five years later Hitler got Austria and the next year Checkloslavakia, it seems there was not much to this "war". (Also, we know that American bankers such as Prescot Bush, Aviral Harriman, and the Dulles brothers were investing heavily in Germany (weren't they part of this "international jewish banking)). And, no real effort to stop Hitler was put forward by the countries which are supposedly under the control of these "international Jewish banking" until Hitler invaded Poland. (And if you have read "Mein Kampf" you will know that Hitler had planned on expanding Germany's borders to the east since 1924. Howard Davis DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Christian Identity undergoes a revival inarea,experts say
-Caveat Lector- Good job, day, -- I laughed out loud. Jim Condit Jr. -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of day Sent: Sunday, June 20, 1999 10:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Christian Identity undergoes a revival inarea,experts say -Caveat Lector- C'mon, the list guidelines say 'nazis need not apply'. Oh, C'mon. John Lee is not a Nazi. What is it that you people have against reading anything that might put jews in a bad light? What is it that you are afraid of? This is a conspiracy list and jews are also part of conspiracies. Maybe the Declaration should read:Non-jews need not apply. Now stop your whining and let us read what we want there's a delete key, use it if you feel offended. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Christian Identity undergoes a revival inarea,experts say
-Caveat Lector- I would like to add to your request. Where did the term NAZI come from? What is it an abbreviation for? Clearly not National Socialism in English. Does it stand for something in German? The book House of Nasi by Cecil Roth states that Nasi means Jewish Prince. This combined with the increasing revelation of all the Jews around Hitler (helping him) and the undoubted cooperation of Nazism and (top levels of) Zionism throughout the period of 1933 to 1944 (see Perfidy by Jewish Hollywood producer Ben Hecht, and The Transfer Agreement by Edwin Black), combined with the weighty testimony of Hitler lawyer throughout WWII, a man named Frank, who said in his "deathbed" testimony before he was hanged at Nuremburg, in his booklet called, "In the face of the Gallows", that Hitler was 1/4 Jewish. This Hitler lineage is outlined in the book, recently translated from German, Adolph Hitler: Founder of Israel and was first written about in book form, along with a lot else, by a Jewish school teacher in Germany in 1964 named Deitrich Bronder. His book was entitled, "Before Hitler Came" -- and was quickly suppressed. It has never been translated into English. Incidentally, Hitler dad ended up with the name Heidler after the maid (his mother) who had had illicit relations with the wealthy Jewish banker, Frankenburger, according to these sources. Heidler had his named legally changed to Hitler. So, how about NAZI?? Does anyone know where is comes from? Thanks. Jim Condit Jr. P.S. To make the above more understandable, Hitler and Stalin were funded up the line at key points by the International Bankers who surrounded the FED. According to the Rakovsky interview (given to a Stalin interrogator during the 1938 purges where Stalin, -- in affect a local gangster who had just wiped out his competition -- Trotsky, who was the bankers first choice who was supposed to have defeated Stalin -- , (Stalin) was purging the Rothschild's men around him -- Rakovsky, one of the Rothschild's men, was trying to save his own life in this desperate interview which was preserved in a book called "Red Symphony" by Divine Providence and the painstaking efforts of Russian author George Knuppfer) Anyway, Rakovsky reveals that both Hitler and Stalin attempted to overthrow the bankers who had helped them up the line -- and as mad as they were at Stalin, they were even more angry at Hitler by 1938, and would help Stalin if he would do certain things, which Rakovsky then outlines. Stalin sentenced Rakovsky to several years in prison, but decides not to kill him. I add this in to give some idea has to why there were many Jews around both Stalin and Hitler, due to the common funding -- even though, as Rakovsky said, both seem to have tried to overthrow the bankers in their own sphere of the world and beame top dop themselves. -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Lee Sent: Sunday, June 20, 1999 10:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Christian Identity undergoes a revival inarea,experts say -Caveat Lector- day, I've asked for a definition of NAZI and every one except you wants to side step the issue. NAZI, the word, is a catch all phrase that is applied to anyone that doesn't fall and worship at the feet of Jews; anyone that has studies Hitler's Germany and doesn't condemn the man for wanting the money changes out of Germany. In fact, when Germany issued its own currency in 1933, and went off the international gold standard that was, and is, controlled by international Jewish banking, The World Jewish Congress declared WAR on Germany. No, I am not a Nazi, which was another political party. I have no political affiliation- but if I did, it would be Libertarian. Not that I agree with all they stand for, but their object is not to meld America into a NWO. I can't say the same for any other party in America. Also, I have no religion; I feel all religions are used as a controlling power to enslave the human species. There is more that needs to be said, but so far, you're the only one that knows or cares. John Lee - Original Message - From: day [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 20, 1999 7:20 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Christian Identity undergoes a revival inarea,experts say -Caveat Lector- C'mon, the list guidelines say 'nazis need not apply'. Oh, C'mon. John Lee is not a Nazi. What is it that you people have against reading anything that might put jews in a bad light? What is it that you are afraid of? This is a conspiracy list and jews are also part of conspiracies. Maybe the Declaration should read:Non-jews need not apply. Now stop your whining and let us read what we want there's a delete key, use it if you feel offended. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a di
Re: [CTRL] Christian Identity undergoes a revival inarea,experts say
-Caveat Lector- I lovethis Christian Identity Undergoes A Revival and you want to know what a Nazi is.well, its depends on who is reading the good bookin our hearts we know, God was an Englishman The word NazareneI think the Nazis who combined Freemasonry, the Jesuits, etc., and the reason I think this is in this one old bible I have, SS Teachers Edition, Oxford Clarendon Press made specially for the delegates, it in its concordance whn interpreted Heil and the Seig Heil means God Livesat least this is what I could get from it. MNASON.now Jerry Fawell has taken this out of his bibleI suppose Christian ID has put Hitler replacing Jesus. TheosophyChurch and State...the Nazis dreamaccording to some sources, in particulr Madame Helene Blavatsky - had a book she wrote in 1878, about the White Star Linewhat an unluckey lineand they had not even built the Titanic and their sister ship yet. The word Naziconsult Christian ID...see subject matter. I have been up all night laughing. colleen The call Jesus the Aryan Gentile...I do not know...the Jews did not accept him as a Messiah...now this millenium both Jew and Christian await a Messiah to fill the throne of King Davidon Diana's coffin, did you notice the White Lillies looked like the Star of David...and the Red Lion on th Scottish Flag with the Lilies...who knows. Mrs. Kennedy when she left the White House wanted to make sure that Lady Bird got the Lillies in the Valley. This bible, now over 100 years old ( our family bible is or was printed in 1820 that holds a lot of records) the was SS Teachers Edition my othre had circles three sections.Song of Solomon, she had written Key Experiment on the ide, and circled "he feeds among th lilies" and also othr passages You see Hitler's 1000 Year Reich in the Revelations. You see the Nazi experiments in Mark 7 (also typ error there in the original KJV in 1600 period nearly sent the publisher - well I think they did hang him or somethingbut only Hitler knows and my guess is, he took Nazi for the Nazarinenow I have kept the motor running on tht one. I want to know why in Daniel the word re three presidents...when it should be high priestsupdating it for America. Long time since I have really worked on a lot of this tuffimagine, Falwell changing meanings of names in the bibleof course, he probably stuck his name in ther somewhere...Found Fullers Soap, or Fullers something (you know the Fuller rush Man)found Estee Lauder's Youth Dew in the Psalmsand King Xerex, was noted for making copies of letters Kell=OgBook of Kellsand Og, the first Fitzgerald...lot of name games. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Christian Identity undergoes a revival inarea,experts say
-Caveat Lector- C'mon, the list guidelines say 'nazis need not apply'. Oh, C'mon. John Lee is not a Nazi. What is it that you people have against reading anything that might put jews in a bad light? What is it that you are afraid of? This is a conspiracy list and jews are also part of conspiracies. Maybe the Declaration should read:Non-jews need not apply. Now stop your whining and let us read what we want there's a delete key, use it if you feel offended. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Christian Identity undergoes a revival inarea,experts say
-Caveat Lector- day, I've asked for a definition of NAZI and every one except you wants to side step the issue. NAZI, the word, is a catch all phrase that is applied to anyone that doesn't fall and worship at the feet of Jews; anyone that has studies Hitler's Germany and doesn't condemn the man for wanting the money changes out of Germany. In fact, when Germany issued its own currency in 1933, and went off the international gold standard that was, and is, controlled by international Jewish banking, The World Jewish Congress declared WAR on Germany. No, I am not a Nazi, which was another political party. I have no political affiliation- but if I did, it would be Libertarian. Not that I agree with all they stand for, but their object is not to meld America into a NWO. I can't say the same for any other party in America. Also, I have no religion; I feel all religions are used as a controlling power to enslave the human species. There is more that needs to be said, but so far, you're the only one that knows or cares. John Lee - Original Message - From: day [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 20, 1999 7:20 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Christian Identity undergoes a revival inarea,experts say -Caveat Lector- C'mon, the list guidelines say 'nazis need not apply'. Oh, C'mon. John Lee is not a Nazi. What is it that you people have against reading anything that might put jews in a bad light? What is it that you are afraid of? This is a conspiracy list and jews are also part of conspiracies. Maybe the Declaration should read:Non-jews need not apply. Now stop your whining and let us read what we want there's a delete key, use it if you feel offended. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Christian Identity undergoes a revival inarea,experts say
-Caveat Lector- -- John Lee wrote: NAZI, the word, is a catch all phrase that is applied to anyone that doesn't fall and worship at the feet of Jews; anyone that has studies Hitler's Germany and doesn't condemn the man for wanting the money changes out of Germany. In fact, when Germany issued its own currency in 1933, and went off the international gold standard that was, and is, controlled by international Jewish banking, The World Jewish Congress declared WAR on Germany. Considering that FDR also took the US off the gold standard in 1933, this assertion seems questionable to me. Could you provide some documentation for this assertion? Also, all nations issue their own currency. What did Hitler do differently in 1933 then other countries? Howard Davis DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
