[CTRL] DRUDGE: ABSURD CENSUS QUESTIONS CAUSE BACKLASH (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- [Talk about outrageous! I too am going to have to risk paying the $100 fine...just out of priciple. The fact that there IS such a backlash is the best news I've heard regarding our liberties (or lack of) in a LONG while. To me, the fact that ppl are voicing such concerns is proof that the American people still treasure libery and freedomand lemme tell you...as of late, I have certainly had my doubts! I have taken several statistics courses, and almost any failure of the selected sample population in answering surveys/questionares, let alone widespread failure to answer questions, destroys any statistical significance that can be inferred from scientific sampling (which is what the census is mainly concerend with in the place. This deprives those that would categorize and divide us by group of their most important weapon. Long live the people, long live the individua! --MS] --Begin forward-- X DRUDGE REPORT X WED MARCH 15 2000 21:52:09 ET X CENSUS BREAKDOWN: CITIZENS TELL SAM TO SHOVE IT OVER PROBING QUESTIONS; WILL PAY FINE Americans from coast to coast are expressing shock and outrage over the level of detailed questioning from the federal government and the 2000 Census, with thousands of citizens vowing to pay fines rather than submit to the private nature of the inquisition, according to congressional sources. "The census count is already breaking down," said one Hill source. "People are in revolt! Calls are flooding into our office... They are very upset about the intrusive nature of the questions, such as how a person gets to work, whether they have any disabilities, how many cars they own, what their income was and who they work for!" The Constitution of the United States grants the government authority to count population, but a "long form" being sent to 1 out of 6 American households strays far from that goal; requiring answers to more than 53 personal questions or risk penalty. U.S. Code, Title 13, Section 221 states citizens must fully comply with the census or face a $100 fine. There is a $500 penalty for giving false information. Census officials received more than 600,000 phone calls on Tuesday, according to officials. The majority of the callers lodged complaints about the probing nature of the census questions. And thousands of calls to Capitol Hill took staffers by surprise. "It's a firestorm," said one congressional aide. "Is this Al Gore's idea of 'reinventing government?'" one angry caller complained to a receptionist for a besieged senator. "I have to tell Washington how I got to work last week? In what type of car? And the location of my office? Screw it. I'll pay the 100 bucks!" Congressmen on Wednesday were referring complaints to the Census Hotline [1-800-471-9424]. A cover letter accompanying the long form states that no one will have access to the information other than the Census Bureau. Yet many questions appear to violate a citizen's right to privacy: 10. What is this person's ancestry or ethnic origin? 11. a. Does this person speak a language other than English at home? b. What is this language? c. How well does this person speak English? 12. Where was this person born? 13. Is this person a citizen of the United States? 14. When did this person come to live in the United States? 15. a. Did this person live in this house or apartment 5 years ago? b. Where did this person live 5 years ago? 16. Does this person have any of the following long-lasting conditions: blindness deafness or a severe vision or hearing impairment? A condition that substantially limits one or more basic physical activities such as walking, climbing stairs, reaching, lifting or carrying? 18. Was this person under 15 years of age on April 1, 2000? 19. Does this person have any of his/her own grandchildren under the age of 18 living in this house or apartment? Is this grandparent currently responsible for most of the basic needs of any grandchildren under the age of 18 who lives in this house or apartment? How long has this grandparent been responsible fort these grandchildren? 22. At what location did this person work LAST WEEK? 23. How did this person usually get to work LAST WEEK? 24. What time did this person usually leave home to go to work LAST WEEK? 25. LAST WEEK, was this person on layoff from a job? LAST WEEK, was this person TEMPORARILY absent from a job or business? Has this person been informed that he or she will be recalled to work within the next 6 months or been given a date to return to work? 27. Industry or Employer -- Describe clearly this person's chief job activity or business last week. If this person had more than one job, describe the one at which this person worked the most hours. If this person had no job or business last week, give the information for his/her last job or business since 1995. For whom did this person work? What kind of business or industry was this?
Re: [CTRL] DRUDGE: ABSURD CENSUS QUESTIONS CAUSE BACKLASH (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- "The census count is already breaking down," said one Hill source. "People are in revolt! Calls are flooding into our office... They are very upset about the intrusive nature of the questions, such as how a person gets to work, whether they have any disabilities, how many cars they own, what their income was and who they work for!" I didn't get the long form this year; the only time I remember getting the long form was in 1980, and it asked the same questions. So if it's now considered so intrusive, why wasn't there a hue and cry back then? I got the short form this year, and felt that some of the questions were intrusive on it -- namely, the questions regarding whether I own, rent, or live in someone else's abode without paying rent; I also felt that my phone number, which I pay extra to have unlisted and unpublished, is none of the Census Bureau's business... I also didn't bother answering the question regarding my race. I DID answer the questions regarding my age and date of birth, since I feel that is necessary to accurately fulfill the Constitiutional decree of enumerating the population. 10. What is this person's ancestry or ethnic origin? 11. a. Does this person speak a language other than English at home? b. What is this language? c. How well does this person speak English? 12. Where was this person born? 13. Is this person a citizen of the United States? 14. When did this person come to live in the United States? etc. etc. ... Again, these questions were on the long form I got 20 years ago... this is nothing new... 31. Income in 1999: Wages salary, commissions, bonuses or tips from all jobs; Self-employment from own non-farm businesses, including proprietorships and partnerships; Interest dividends, net income, royalty income, or income from estates and trusts. 32. What was this person's total income in 1999? Questions 33 through 42 deal with type of housing, whether someone rents or owns, and how many bedrooms, whether there are plumbing facilities, etc. I can't remember the above 2 questions being on the 1980 long form... I suspect it may be a ploy to catch income tax evaders... June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] DRUDGE: ABSURD CENSUS QUESTIONS CAUSE BACKLASH (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- From: MICHAEL SPITZER [EMAIL PROTECTED] X DRUDGE REPORT X WED MARCH 15 2000 21:52:09 ET X CENSUS BREAKDOWN: CITIZENS TELL SAM TO SHOVE IT OVER PROBING QUESTIONS; WILL PAY FINE A friend of mine is helping taking the census in the deeply rural areas around here. Legally, you don't have to answer the questions and I live in an area that is deeply "private" especially when it comes to government. If my friend is unable to get an answer on the long form she is to write down as much as she sees. The government has eyes!!! Hilary A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] DRUDGE: ABSURD CENSUS QUESTIONS CAUSE BACKLASH (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- June, To catch tax evaders? The letter enclosed with my census says no other government agency can view this information. So the only way the IRS could use this information is to break the law. The census bureau would be lying about what this information is for if it was to catch tax evaders. I`m sure everyone on this list knows the feds would never lie to the American people.civily yours, Jeff http://community.webtv.net/oldschool2/Jeffsonceandfuture http://community.webtv.net/oldschool2/JeffSandlins A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] DRUDGE: ABSURD CENSUS QUESTIONS CAUSE BACKLASH (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Dear Jeff et alia, Are you sure that the IRS is a government agency? -- [Mode Selection] ForceExisting=no ExistingSRFile= ForceNew=no IntlMode=no [New Acct Mode] AskSaveAcctInfo=yes SavePasswords=yes AskPersonalInfo=yes AskSurvey=yes AskShareInfo=yes AskBillingInfo=yes RegServer=RegServ.SR [Existing Acct Mode] RegPodURL=http://home.netscape.com/comprod/upgrades/index.html ShowIntro2=yes ShowPhones=no AskName=yes AskLogin=yes AskTTY=no AskEmail=yes AskPhone=yes AskDNS=yes AskHosts=yes AskRegister=yes [General] CardTypes="AX,MC,VI,DC" A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
