Re: [CTRL] Dubious Reports of U.S. Concentration Camps

2001-07-12 Thread Bill Howard

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In a message dated 7/11/01 6:40:04 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Several years ago I went out checked on three camps in my area.  They
didn't
 exist. 

The old perloined letter trick. Yes, this would be good way of doing it.
However, it is just as easy to take an open field, and surround it with
razorwire and armed guards.

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Re: [CTRL] Dubious Reports of U.S. Concentration Camps

2001-07-11 Thread Bill Howard

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In a message dated 7/10/01 8:47:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Though I don't doubt they exist somewhere in some capacity. 

Several years ago I went out checked on three camps in my area.  They didn't
exist.

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Re: [CTRL] Dubious Reports of U.S. Concentration Camps

2001-07-11 Thread tenebroust

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I believe you.  My point in what I posted was to say that such camps may in fact exist 
BUT that anything people see is not going to be such camps in actuality.  The camps if 
they exist would not be observable and would not be in any area where they could be 
scrutinized.  Such a thing would have to be hidden very well, as such reports of same 
are probably all bogus.



On Wed, 11 July 2001, Bill Howard wrote:


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 In a message dated 7/10/01 8:47:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   Though I don't doubt they exist somewhere in some capacity. 

 Several years ago I went out checked on three camps in my area.  They didn't
 exist.

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Re: [CTRL] Dubious Reports of U.S. Concentration Camps

2001-07-11 Thread Steve

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On 11 Jul 01, at 18:39, tenebroust wrote:

 I believe you.  My point in what I posted was to say that such camps may in fact 
exist BUT that anything people see is not going
 to be such camps in actuality.  The camps if they exist would not be observable and 
would not be in any area where they could be
 scrutinized.  Such a thing would have to be hidden very well, as such reports of 
same are probably all bogus.

Concentration camps would be underground, not on the surface where they are easily
photographed by planes or satellites.

I suspect that there is currrently slave labor consisting of cloned humanoids in bases
underground. But that is too much for most to take so just think of 'Heaven and Hell' 
as
we have been programmed to do for millinia.

Steve



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[CTRL] Dubious Reports of U.S. Concentration Camps

2001-07-10 Thread Michael Pugliese

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Subject: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dubious Reports of U.S. Concentration Camps
Newsgroups: misc.activism.militia
(This is the only article in this thread)
Date: 1999/05/03




(sent to USCMike1's 31,085+ readers - please repost to your own mailing
lists)

Dear Citizens, Patriots, Veterans, et al.:

   Thanks to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for expressing his doubts about the Clinton's
Civilian Concentration Camps.  Please read my response to him and his post
immediately below my response.

USCMike1


Dear Steven:

  Thank you for your response and comments.  It is literally impossible for
me to personally verify all 300+ or 700+ s.  And even when some one does
in fact find one they derrogatorily report that there is NO activity there
and no sign of civilian prisoners there.

So even with proof people still refuse to believe.  They keep
forgetting that these s are being setup, planned, prepared, lying in
wait, or being merely designated for later use.  Guess we will have to just
wait until those on the GREEN list are picked up and shoved into them.  Then
what good does it do to issue any warning ahead of time?

   Probably these very same people will still deny their existence by saying
Well, you can't prove these are s just because the feds put me into one
under legal court procedings, but for a different reason than what you say
they are for.

  If people can't heed an honest warning then too bad.  There are none so
blind as those who will not see.  None so ignorant as those who will not
understand.  None so asleep as those who will not wake up.

USCMike1

Subj: Dubious Reports of U.S. Concentration Camps
Date: 4/26/99 9:18:02 PM Pacific Daylight Time
From: A HREF=mailto:Steven1997;Steven1997/A
To: A HREF=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A
CC: A HREF=mailto:RBerbill;RBerbill/A, A
HREF=mailto:USCMike1;USCMike1
/A

Hi David:  I am also very skeptical of these reports.

We are old neighbors: Northbrook, right on the border of Wheeling.  My
brother, Bill  is an exec with a Northbrook-based radio station -- even has
his own radio show (see Rebel Radio on the Internet).  If you get any solid
proof of any concentration camps which are being planned for innocent
Americans, just let me know and I will see if he wants to run a story on the
air ... OK.

I will also copy Bill on this e-mail.

Steven
+
Date: 4/26/99 8:22:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Well, ladies and gentlemen, it is starting now.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] claims he
has verified that one of the FEMA Relocation Centers which I refer to as
Clinton's Civilian Concentration Camps - will be used to incarcerate
innocent
civilians - although this is probably just a trial run.

There are claimed to be at least 300+ camps and possibly even up to 700+
camps nationwide.  The feds just want to get us used to the idea of
civilians
being placed in these camps, then after the first shock, to be readily
forgotten so we can go back to our mindless daily existences.  Then as we
are
individually carted off into these 's it will just be another fact of
life that we were so meticulously prepared for.

OBTW, this is for Wolfs1776 - as far as I know, there is ONLY ONE
[EMAIL PROTECTED] by the name of Michael Johnson and that is me and there
should be NO other people who are parading around as USCMike1.  I don't know
where Wolfs1776 ever got that idea, unless there is someone impersonating me
trying to discredit me.

Thanks again, folks for listening

Please read Wolfs1776 post below for the story on innocent civilians to be
incarcerated in one of Clinton's Civilian Concentrations Camps.

USCMike1

In a message dated 4/26/99 1:11:17 AM Pacific Daylight Time, WoLfS1776
writes:

 Date: 4/26/99 1:11:17 AM Pacific Daylight Time
 From: A HREF=mailto:WoLfS1776;WoLfS1776/A
 To: A HREF=mailto:USCMike1;USCMike1/A

 In a message dated 99-04-24 13:27:58 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Okay, I said that when I learned that there *are* concentration camps
  and that people *were* to be herded into them. I would go on the air and
  publicly acknowledge the fact.

  Well, USCMike1 (however-many people are actually masquerading as someone
  named Michael Johnson) once referred me to a web-site showing photos of
  a POW camp on Fort Dix, New Jersey, as absolute PROOF that such camps *do*
  exist and would be used to hold innocent citizens. I looked at the photos,
  formulatind some hypotheses (which I kept to myself), and publicly
  ridiculed all those nice folks going under the rubric USCMike1.

  Well, I can admit my mistakes---on the ABC network news this morning
  (WLS, 890 AM in Chicago), they ran a story confirming my hypotheses by
  stating that innocent citizens *will* be herded into the Fort Dix
  facility---and 

Re: [CTRL] Dubious Reports of U.S. Concentration Camps

2001-07-10 Thread tenebroust

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I really fail to see why these camps are still making their way around the conspiracy 
culture.  It seems to me that something of that magnitude would be kept strictly 
covert and would not expect to see any evidence of them.  When you see something it 
probably is something else.  Though I don't doubt they exist somewhere in some 
capacity.



On Tue, 10 July 2001, Michael Pugliese wrote:


 -Caveat Lector-

 http://groups.google.com/groups?q=USCMike1%40aol.com

 www.google.com/search?hl=ensafe=off[EMAIL PROTECTED]btnG=Google+S
 earch

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 Subject: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dubious Reports of U.S. Concentration Camps
 Newsgroups: misc.activism.militia
 (This is the only article in this thread)
 Date: 1999/05/03




 (sent to USCMike1's 31,085+ readers - please repost to your own mailing
 lists)

 Dear Citizens, Patriots, Veterans, et al.:

Thanks to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for expressing his doubts about the Clinton's
 Civilian Concentration Camps.  Please read my response to him and his post
 immediately below my response.

 USCMike1


 Dear Steven:

   Thank you for your response and comments.  It is literally impossible for
 me to personally verify all 300+ or 700+ s.  And even when some one does
 in fact find one they derrogatorily report that there is NO activity there
 and no sign of civilian prisoners there.

 So even with proof people still refuse to believe.  They keep
 forgetting that these s are being setup, planned, prepared, lying in
 wait, or being merely designated for later use.  Guess we will have to just
 wait until those on the GREEN list are picked up and shoved into them.  Then
 what good does it do to issue any warning ahead of time?

Probably these very same people will still deny their existence by saying
 Well, you can't prove these are s just because the feds put me into one
 under legal court procedings, but for a different reason than what you say
 they are for.

   If people can't heed an honest warning then too bad.  There are none so
 blind as those who will not see.  None so ignorant as those who will not
 understand.  None so asleep as those who will not wake up.

 USCMike1

 Subj: Dubious Reports of U.S. Concentration Camps
 Date: 4/26/99 9:18:02 PM Pacific Daylight Time
 From: A HREF=mailto:Steven1997;Steven1997/A
 To: A HREF=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A
 CC: A HREF=mailto:RBerbill;RBerbill/A, A
 HREF=mailto:USCMike1;USCMike1
 /A

 Hi David:  I am also very skeptical of these reports.

 We are old neighbors: Northbrook, right on the border of Wheeling.  My
 brother, Bill  is an exec with a Northbrook-based radio station -- even has
 his own radio show (see Rebel Radio on the Internet).  If you get any solid
 proof of any concentration camps which are being planned for innocent
 Americans, just let me know and I will see if he wants to run a story on the
 air ... OK.

 I will also copy Bill on this e-mail.

 Steven
 +
 Date: 4/26/99 8:22:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Well, ladies and gentlemen, it is starting now.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] claims he
 has verified that one of the FEMA Relocation Centers which I refer to as
 Clinton's Civilian Concentration Camps - will be used to incarcerate
 innocent
 civilians - although this is probably just a trial run.

 There are claimed to be at least 300+ camps and possibly even up to 700+
 camps nationwide.  The feds just want to get us used to the idea of
 civilians
 being placed in these camps, then after the first shock, to be readily
 forgotten so we can go back to our mindless daily existences.  Then as we
 are
 individually carted off into these 's it will just be another fact of
 life that we were so meticulously prepared for.

 OBTW, this is for Wolfs1776 - as far as I know, there is ONLY ONE
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] by the name of Michael Johnson and that is me and there
 should be NO other people who are parading around as USCMike1.  I don't know
 where Wolfs1776 ever got that idea, unless there is someone impersonating me
 trying to discredit me.

 Thanks again, folks for listening

 Please read Wolfs1776 post below for the story on innocent civilians to be
 incarcerated in one of Clinton's Civilian Concentrations Camps.

 USCMike1

 In a message dated 4/26/99 1:11:17 AM Pacific Daylight Time, WoLfS1776
 writes:

  Date: 4/26/99 1:11:17 AM Pacific Daylight Time
  From: A HREF=mailto:WoLfS1776;WoLfS1776/A
  To: A HREF=mailto:USCMike1;USCMike1/A

  In a message dated 99-04-24 13:27:58 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   Okay, I said that when I learned that there *are* concentration camps
   and that people *were* to be herded into them. I would go on the air and
   publicly acknowledge the fact.

   Well, USCMike1 (however-many people are actually masquerading as someone
   named Michael Johnson) once referred me to a web-site showing photos of
   a POW camp on Fort