Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Bible, King James Version
This the first that I have read or heard about a "Gog"...I've heard of a synagogue but not a Gog or Magog. But it is interesting that on another list that I am on (called Visionary Shamanism) there are many people talking about Gogs there too...must be in the air. From: "blue honey" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Revelation 20: 7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, 8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. If you read the whole chapter in context, Satan has not been bound for the thousand years yet... June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Bible, King James Version
From: "blue honey" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Revelation 20: 7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, 8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. If you read the whole chapter in context, Satan has not been bound for the thousand years yet... June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Bible, King James Version
Revelation 20: 7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, 8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Bible, King James Version
blue honey wrote: Revelation 20: 7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, 8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. Revalation 21+ : And Charlie Brown sayeth to Lil' Annie Fannie " I'd like to Gog your Magog." And Li' Annie Fannie replyeth to Charlie Brown in tongues " #@^*^*$#!#~^." And then there was rapture. J2 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Bible, King James Version
LOL... This is one of the best ""CONSPIRACY THEORIES" I've come across in a while... ( With exception to J2's add-on : Revalation 21+ : And Charlie Brown sayeth to Lil' Annie Fannie " I'd like to Gog your Magog." And Li' Annie Fannie replyeth to Charlie Brown in tongues " #@^*^*$#!#~^." And then there was rapture. ) Thanks for the break in nomenclature of the norm of this group... (Knowing that God has a sense of humor since he gave us one, in his image... ) :-) eagle 1 ROTFL. - Original Message - From: "Aleisha Saba" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2000 11:52 AM Subject: [CTRL] Fwd: Bible, King James Version So on November 15, 1963 a dark cloud was descended over the White House but on November 22, 1963, it covered the land. Jack Ruby in his jail cell repeated over and over Shadrach, Meshenk, and Abenego - the three tossed into the line of fire. Chariots of the Gods, or Chariots of Fire and In Ezekial 1, you witness Ezekials Wheels - a possible craft where the wheels like planes of today lisft their wheels. Now one has to use a code method, for instance in this interpretation Israel is the Promised Land, the land of milk and honey. The venture on to Ezekial 38 and 39..and the dark clouds begins to descend Gog is the symbolism of JFK..God will strike the arrow out of the left hand and the bough out of the right hand of this man, who symbolzed the President of the United States. Arlington Cemetary is the Valley of Hamon Gog (Tut Ank Hamon and believe me, all that glittters in not gold). So Chariots of Fire - the astronauts when the Challenger blew up in the heavens referred to Psalm 45.God set their Chariots on Fire.the little Princess of Wales and her Egyptian Lover - Dodi Fayed had produced the much raved about movie, Chariots of Fire... Life is but a dream..in one chapter in Kings a hand descends out of a dark cloud - symbolizing depending from where you stand, the Black Hand - ancient Arabic Mafia type association. So this is a lot of reading, but I think worth it. Start with Ezekial 1 and read about Ezekials Wheels.and on November 15 one year, over the White House, it is said UFO's put on quite a display for those watching form withinit ws On to the Moon - Damn the Torpedos, but they forgot about the Black Pullets from the East, and the killer from the land of the North. A Saba Bible, King James Version 33 matches. Ezek.1 [16] The appearance of the wheels and their work was like unto the colour of a beryl: and they four had one likeness: and their appearance and their work was as it were a wheel in the middle of a wheel. [19] And when the living creatures went, the wheels went by them: and when the living creatures were lifted up from the earth, the wheels were lifted up. [20] Whithersoever the spirit was to go, they went, thither was their spirit to go; and the wheels were lifted up over against them: for the spirit of the living creature was in the wheels. [21] When those went, these went; and when those stood, these stood; and when those were lifted up from the earth, the wheels were lifted up over against them: for the spirit of the living creature was in the wheels. Ezek.3 [13] I heard also the noise of the wings of the living creatures that touched one another, and the noise of the wheels over against them, and a noise of a great rushing. Ezek.10 [2] And he spake unto the man clothed with linen, and said, Go in between the wheels, even under the cherub, and fill thine hand with coals of fire from between the cherubims, and scatter them over the city. And he went in in my sight. [6] And it came to pass, that when he had commanded the man clothed with linen, saying, Take fire from between the wheels, from between the cherubims; then he went in, and stood beside the wheels. [9] And when I looked, behold the four wheels by the cherubims, one wheel by one cherub, and another wheel by another cherub: and the appearance of the wheels was as the colour of a beryl stone. [12] And their whole body, and their backs, and their hands, and their wings, and the wheels, were full of eyes round about, even the wheels that they four had. [13] As for the wheels, it was cried unto them in my hearing, O wheel. [16] And when the cherubims went, the wheels went by them: and when the cherubims lifted up their wings to mount up from the earth, the same wheels also turned not from beside them. [19] And the cherubims lifted up their wings, and mounted up from the earth in my sight: when they went out, the wheels also were beside them, and every one stood at the door of the east gate of the LORD's house; and the glory of the God of Israel was over them above. Ezek.11 [22] Then did the cherubims lift up their wings, and the wheels beside them; and the g
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Bible, King James Version
So God had a sense of humor since he made us in his image? He said let US make man in OUR image? And Darwin said we descended from monkies? And God made man in his image? Does this mean God was big Monkey? I heard that somewhere once, and wondered - family tree all members at one time hanged from tails? So this is the Planet of the Apes? A Saba A. Saba Dare To Call It Conspiracy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Bible, King James Version
That's a good one Aleisha... God HAD to have had a sense of humor... (I know too many monkeys).And Darwin was one of them. God just let Darwin monkey around to see which theory we ultimately decided to believe in Darwin's or God's. Planet of the Apes? Perhaps Charlton Heston has a better perspective on that, beings he's played the roles of the Saviour of both the human race and the ape race... eagle 1 - Original Message - From: "Aleisha Saba" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 12:26 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Bible, King James Version So God had a sense of humor since he made us in his image? He said let US make man in OUR image? And Darwin said we descended from monkies? And God made man in his image? Does this mean God was big Monkey? I heard that somewhere once, and wondered - family tree all members at one time hanged from tails? So this is the Planet of the Apes? A Saba A. Saba Dare To Call It Conspiracy . A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Bible, King James Version
Now that was funny. -Original Message- From: Eagle 1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, June 12, 2000 1:41 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Bible, King James Version |That's a good one Aleisha... |God HAD to have had a sense of humor... |(I know too many monkeys).And Darwin was one of them. |God just let Darwin monkey around to see |which theory we ultimately decided to believe in |Darwin's or God's. | |Planet of the Apes? Perhaps Charlton Heston has a better perspective on |that, beings he's played the roles of the Saviour of both the human race |and the ape race... | |eagle 1 | | |- Original Message - |From: "Aleisha Saba" [EMAIL PROTECTED] |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 12:26 PM |Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Bible, King James Version | | | So God had a sense of humor since he made us in his image? He said let | US make man in OUR image? And Darwin said we descended from monkies? | | And God made man in his image? Does this mean God was big Monkey? I | heard that somewhere once, and wondered - family tree all members at one | time hanged from tails? | | So this is the Planet of the Apes? | | A Saba | | A. Saba | Dare To Call It Conspiracy | | | | |. | |A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A |DECLARATION DISCLAIMER |== |CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic |screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are |sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, |misdirections |and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and |minor |effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, |CTRL |gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; |be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and |nazi's need not apply. | |Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. | |Archives Available at: |http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html |A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of |[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A | |http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ | A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A | |To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: |SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: |SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Bible, King James Version
So on November 15, 1963 a dark cloud was descended over the White House but on November 22, 1963, it covered the land. Jack Ruby in his jail cell repeated over and over Shadrach, Meshenk, and Abenego - the three tossed into the line of fire. Chariots of the Gods, or Chariots of Fire and In Ezekial 1, you witness Ezekials Wheels - a possible craft where the wheels like planes of today lisft their wheels. Now one has to use a code method, for instance in this interpretation Israel is the Promised Land, the land of milk and honey. The venture on to Ezekial 38 and 39..and the dark clouds begins to descend Gog is the symbolism of JFK..God will strike the arrow out of the left hand and the bough out of the right hand of this man, who symbolzed the President of the United States. Arlington Cemetary is the Valley of Hamon Gog (Tut Ank Hamon and believe me, all that glittters in not gold). So Chariots of Fire - the astronauts when the Challenger blew up in the heavens referred to Psalm 45.God set their Chariots on Fire.the little Princess of Wales and her Egyptian Lover - Dodi Fayed had produced the much raved about movie, Chariots of Fire... Life is but a dream..in one chapter in Kings a hand descends out of a dark cloud - symbolizing depending from where you stand, the Black Hand - ancient Arabic Mafia type association. So this is a lot of reading, but I think worth it. Start with Ezekial 1 and read about Ezekials Wheels.and on November 15 one year, over the White House, it is said UFO's put on quite a display for those watching form withinit ws On to the Moon - Damn the Torpedos, but they forgot about the Black Pullets from the East, and the killer from the land of the North. A Saba Bible, King James Version 33 matches. Ezek.1 [16] The appearance of the wheels and their work was like unto the colour of a beryl: and they four had one likeness: and their appearance and their work was as it were a wheel in the middle of a wheel. [19] And when the living creatures went, the wheels went by them: and when the living creatures were lifted up from the earth, the wheels were lifted up. [20] Whithersoever the spirit was to go, they went, thither was their spirit to go; and the wheels were lifted up over against them: for the spirit of the living creature was in the wheels. [21] When those went, these went; and when those stood, these stood; and when those were lifted up from the earth, the wheels were lifted up over against them: for the spirit of the living creature was in the wheels. Ezek.3 [13] I heard also the noise of the wings of the living creatures that touched one another, and the noise of the wheels over against them, and a noise of a great rushing. Ezek.10 [2] And he spake unto the man clothed with linen, and said, Go in between the wheels, even under the cherub, and fill thine hand with coals of fire from between the cherubims, and scatter them over the city. And he went in in my sight. [6] And it came to pass, that when he had commanded the man clothed with linen, saying, Take fire from between the wheels, from between the cherubims; then he went in, and stood beside the wheels. [9] And when I looked, behold the four wheels by the cherubims, one wheel by one cherub, and another wheel by another cherub: and the appearance of the wheels was as the colour of a beryl stone. [12] And their whole body, and their backs, and their hands, and their wings, and the wheels, were full of eyes round about, even the wheels that they four had. [13] As for the wheels, it was cried unto them in my hearing, O wheel. [16] And when the cherubims went, the wheels went by them: and when the cherubims lifted up their wings to mount up from the earth, the same wheels also turned not from beside them. [19] And the cherubims lifted up their wings, and mounted up from the earth in my sight: when they went out, the wheels also were beside them, and every one stood at the door of the east gate of the LORD's house; and the glory of the God of Israel was over them above. Ezek.11 [22] Then did the cherubims lift up their wings, and the wheels beside them; and the glory of the God of Israel was over them above. Ezekiel Previous Chapter Ezek.38 [1] And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, [2] Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him, [3] And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal: [4] And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts of armour, even a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords: [5] Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them; all of them with shield and helmet: [6] Gomer, and all his bands; the house of Togarmah of the north quarters, and all his bands: and many people with thee. [7] Be