Re: [CTRL] Hey Einstein. This one's for you.

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Re: [CTRL] Hey Einstein. This one's for you.

2000-11-09 Thread Aleisha Saba

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Hey Virtuoso - here is 46th Psalm - what you doing composing your own
music?   Who are you, the Roto Rooter Man?

So Alamoth - the music the Moth and the Flame comes to mind - flying too
near the sun as Icarus once did.Moth got burnt in the fire in
Dallas?

So Alamoth is only once in the bible and then we have the Eagles nest
once home of Assassins and Hitler.

So here is the 46th Psalm, and note the story of David
Kore(sh)..played lots of music there, like Boots Made For Walking
over graves of little babies murdered by FBI like Ruby Ridge.

J. Edgar must be spinning in his grave to see the reputation and
character of his FBI so slandered and destroyed by the communists
within.see that guy named Hammer was it?

Bible, King James. Psalms, from The holy Bible, King James version
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Psalms, psalm 46
Compare with Revised Standard Version: Psal.046
  1: God is our refuge and strength, a very present help
in trouble.
2: Therefore will not we fear, though the earth be removed, and though
the mountains be carried into the midst of the sea;
3: Though the waters thereof roar and be troubled, though the mountains
shake with the swelling thereof. Selah.
4: There is a river, the streams whereof shall make glad the city of
God, the holy place of the tabernacles of the most High.
5: God is in the midst of her; she shall not be moved: God shall help
her, and that right early.
6: The heathen raged, the kingdoms were moved: he uttered his voice, the
earth melted.
7: The LORD of hosts is with us; the God of Jacob is our refuge. Selah.
8: Come, behold the works of the LORD, what desolations he hath made in
the earth.

9: He maketh wars to cease unto the end of the earth; he breaketh the
bow, and cutteth the spear in sunder; he burneth the chariot in the
fire.
10: Be still, and know that I am God: I will be exalted among the
heathen, I will be exalted in the earth.
11: The LORD of hosts is with us; the God of Jacob is our refuge. Selah.

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Re: [CTRL] Hey Einstein. This one's for you.

2000-11-09 Thread Aleisha Saba

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Acts 19 is actually key reading date for date of Apollo - obviously the
bible calendar code was used by two different elements - one our
military and the othr masonic infiltrators of another country - remember
the Germans had this calendar at Spandau while the Russian guard took it
away from them insisting it was coded

In certain concordances, Acts 16 to 19 equates to sabotage - let you
worry about which bible that is but it is a Kng James Concordance.

Dodi Fayed - note reference to the mighty temple of Diana who was to be
despised.certain newsmen said the Queen despised Diana, poor choice
or deliberate choice of words?   But the Chariots of Fire - Dodi
evidently took this from Psalm 46.

So this is the psalm which many believe Shakespeare left his secret
ciphers - it is also from where Edgar Cayce took name of his book There
Is A River - was reading that piece of phoney balogne literature the day
Mt. Helene went up - timed and set for explosion - Home Shopping still
selling gems of a low grade type from that blast - but what else was
there?

Might add Marcos hid a lot of gold in a dead volcano and heliocopthers
were seen going in and out - wonder if Marco's gold is still there at
this oh so secret location - you know the Japanese probably own it by
now?

So it is obvious, Virtuosa, one you play a mean guitar out of key - that
you do not know what a virtuosa is  and you probably twang away with a
toothpick.

So - take the Swine Flu hit us in late 70 period; people do not know
enough to be insulted.but the date all the Legionaires became ill
and died - key reading was "My Name is Legion for we are many and the
disease enters into the swine":   Now this was old Nazi experiment but
keep in mind it was he Rusians who said this bible watchword calendar
was coded - so evidently all in the famly.

So Doo Dah, you all..you lack the imagination of a virtuosa - and I
bet you sleep with your socks on.

Think you will find the highest degress in masonry - some will know of
this bible code - for they have a similar daily bible reading calendar
in their blue bible - the bigger edition - the one with pages arranged
keyed to major assassinations (King, Kennedy, and RFK and yes
JFK)now of course their calendar is a little different for lower
degree masons evidently aare given this one - and stranger yet - in
Numbers, it skips from Number 5 to 29 which I found strange.

So go take a climb up Mt. Nebo and take good look at promised
land.and keep in mind that Enoch and Moses, they never found their
bodies did they - law of disappearance -  See Hoffa.

Bye you all...find someone in CIA or in the top Miitary such as
Joint Chief of Staff - for this bible code was in a bible owned by my
brother in law who was isn both under Vandenberg who was head of CIA
then and then head of Joint Chief of Staff, Thor Chief, set up BMEWS and
worked with Werner von Braun last tour at Redstone Arsenal for you see
they were friends.

The Germans took us to the moon - we just went along for the ride, but
it took John F. Kennedy's dream to make this possible.

Keep in mind the CFR took over the Democrat Party - and these are Huey
Long's fascists in disguise.

You all hve fun now...find some good clues in Ezekial 38 and
39.symbolism of the President of the USA there - keyed to murder of
JFKI called my manuscript The Valley of Hamon Gog - should have made
that Tut ank Hamon Gog..

Remember there will now be three Presidents in 3 years, and maybe even
another three High Priest Popes - or a Putin knocked off the mountain
along with - well President Lieberman, how does that sound - refer to
Daniel in bible alsobig propaganda thing.

I keep thinking of Jack Ruby reciting over and over when in jail after
silencing forever Oswald- Shadrach, Meschenk, and Abenego...keyed to
JFK who met death when the sun was in its zenith, at high noon -
murdered in the streets of Laredo and buried in red rosesstrange,
red roses when yellow rose of Texas would have been more popular but
instead they got red and white roses with a goodbye old pal note.

So much for life of Meyer Lansky - Russian Mafia - such a sainted man.

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Re: [CTRL] Hey Einstein. This one's for you.

2000-11-09 Thread Aleisha Saba

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Re: [CTRL] Hey Einstein. This one's for you.

2000-11-08 Thread Guitar Virtuoso

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> One old Rosicrucian code was to take dates like say April 20 and make it
> stand for somethinghave diasters on Holidays and note the moon shot
> - John John and Teddy  one dead and the other almost killed.for
> there are those who would give Werner von Braun no credit for reaching
> moon ahead of Russiansthose who sabotaged our space program
> incuding Challenger..
>
> Maybe you can figure out why at the funeral of the Challenger astronauts
> the one astronaut read the 46th Psalm leaving a few clues?

>
> A. Saba
> Dare To Call It Conspiracy

You mean this Psalm?

1 ? <>
God is our refuge and strength, a very present help in trouble.
2  Therefore will not we fear, though the earth be removed, and though the
mountains be carried into the midst of the sea;
3  Though the waters thereof roar and be troubled, though the mountains
shake with the swelling thereof. Selah.
4  There is a river, the streams whereof shall make glad the city of God,
the holy place of the tabernacles of the most High.
5  God is in the midst of her; she shall not be moved: God shall help her,
and that right early.
6 ? The heathen raged, the kingdoms were moved: he uttered his voice, the
earth melted.
7  The LORD of hosts is with us; the God of Jacob is our refuge. Selah.
8  Come, behold the works of the LORD, what desolations he hath made in the
earth.
9  He maketh wars to cease unto the end of the earth; he breaketh the bow,
and cutteth the spear in sunder; he burneth the chariot in the fire.
10  Be still, and know that I am God: I will be exalted among the heathen, I
will be exalted in the earth.
11  The LORD of hosts is with us; the God of Jacob is our refuge. Selah.

And WHAT "clues" would they be dearest oracle?  The sense and tense appear
rather OVERT to my reading.

Perhaps what you are saying, is, that it is perhaps one thing to perceive
the good book as a source of divine revelation and instruction, and so on
and so forth, as many do, and another thing to ascribe to it some form of
superstitious mumbo jumbo "code" which, I suppose any group or individual
could ascribe, in order to perhaps carry out some macabre and dire
religio-political time-table upon us plebes of humanity?



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Re: [CTRL] Hey Einstein. This one's for you.

2000-11-08 Thread Aleisha Saba

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Sophia Loren's sister as I recalled married into Mussoini
family..this is why the Italians seem to love her so - after all
Vito Genevese received a "Sun Medal" from Mussolini too - I imagine
Meyer Lansky received some awards also since they were all in the family
- fascists 

As for Titanic always wondered who carried insurance on it - Lloyds of
London?  Morgan got his man off which was a clue - clue to Titanic was
the code words Old Man

So some still sing of the Edmund Fitzgerald hat went down on great lakes
and we had memorial day maritime disasters - like a memorial to the
Bismarck.Remember the Bismarck?  The Bennington and USS Scorpion and
a few others, and the notorious Beverly Hill Fires a memorial day
weekend..

One old Rosicrucian code was to take dates like say April 20 and make it
stand for somethinghave diasters on Holidays and note the moon shot
- John John and Teddy  one dead and the other almost killed.for
there are those who would give Werner von Braun no credit for reaching
moon ahead of Russiansthose who sabotaged our space program
incuding Challenger..

Maybe you can figure out why at the funeral of the Challenger astronauts
the one astronaut read the 46th Psalm leaving a few clues?

But these men are sworn to secrecy - my brother in law worked on that
stuff and knew von Braun..attended one or two Geneva Conferences and
also worked for Vandenberg  but he was upset with me for getting into
this stuff..loose cannons?

So leave Joshua 2 to worry about that stuff.he better buy a hammer
and a nail if Bush gets in.

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Re: [CTRL] Hey Einstein. This one's for you.

2000-11-08 Thread Aleisha Saba

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The bible code in not based on prophecy but planned murders some
disguised to look prophetic.lke JFK and Martin Luther King.

This particular edition of the Gideon placed bible was not in the
possession of those who meet in hotel rooms.

For a sample of this code if the movie Executive Action comes out - Mark
Lane stole my code copyrighted in 1969 and used in this movie with
disclaimer.   One other item, he had the wrong year of this particular
bible for the page numbers were also diffrent - he had I believe the
1969 edition - this was a 1954 Editoin and for reference to watchword
code seeAlbert Speers Diary - Russian guard took from Baron von Schirack
saying it was coded

So this Washington Post reporter Bob Woodward had copy of my MS and
would not return.when this Bible Code book came out, the one where
you play the phoney number games trying to make it look like prophcy
rather than planned murders used by conspirtors,  sure enough he was
Washington Post reporter - Bob Kaiser sent my mauscript to Jon Christen
and Bill Turner - way back in 1969 and when I was in hospital on January
24, 1972 my home had been broken into, things stolen and wrecked, and
athe police who did the deed, hand delivered a letter to me from Turner
and Christenson - there was no postage on same - so they wanted me to
spy out a creep by name of Jerry Owen to whom Kaiser referred in his
book RFK MUST DIEand in Sirhan's diary he speaks of a bible code -
plant story of course without a doubt.Los Angeles Times referred to
this article and Turner and Christensen had sent it in the letter but it
had been removed.

Never saw the article - later I concluded Turner former FBI enemy of J.
Edgar Hoover was not trustworthy and they were out to make fast buck.

So my last letter to them was to get off their dead cans because they
were going to shoot Wallace - and they did.   Meanwhile this Jerry Owen
had Sirhan in his van night before RFK murdered and they were going to
come and pay me a visit for the idiot had been from Ashville, or Ahland
Ohio - and I have his picture with Bob Hope and the old time movie star
Mike Mazurka - but one look at Owens face, who was called Shepard of the
Hills, I knew what he was - a spy, a mason and indirectly in on
assassination of RFK...might add Bob Hope had connections to House of
Sun in Florida where my friend an MI6 held seances with the othr spies
until the Hamberger King Dave Thomas bought same, for over 3 million
dolars in 1979lots of bit time stuff down there, landing strips,
docksand lady who previously ownd this Spanish Hacienda ran a Mafia
half way house for
Drugs in her"Hacienda del Sol"..so much for the boys from Delos.

So ever see a masonic code book?I understand my name had been
written in one with a gold star after it...busy bodies.

My very special Gideon Bible can be tracked to the highest intelligience
source - and though my MI6 friend had heard of it, she had never
actually seen it but she knew how it worked and had documentation that
our CIA used it but then of course, the English taught our intelligence
most of what they know from Secret Service to CIAnote the names -
Desmond Fizgerald headed up dirty tricks, Wild Bill Donavan the OSS
which turned to CIA and oh yes, a wife of Desmond Fitzgerald I undertand
was with Adlai Stevenson when he dropped dead outside a restaurant at
high noon - at least this was what Bud Festerwand wrote.

We are dealing with principalities and the powers that be.looks like
we lose June, for if Gore manages to slip by it will be President
Lieberman,  and the Holy Wars will begin.

Imagin all kinds of election fraud charges will keep Cinton in office
for maybe next 4 years?

If we are lucky,  someone will send a dump truck for a near miss..

Saba

See movie Executive Action starring Burt Lancaster - cpyright 1974 -
usual false leads for the Assassination Committee headed up by
Fensterwald and invaded by Lane and Stone and Mailer - biggest coverup
since Noah and Garden of Eden.

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Re: [CTRL] Hey Einstein. This one's for you.

2000-11-08 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld

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> Even David Kore(sh) knew the plan an Halle Bopp Heaven's Gate knew of
> the planned genocide and the recycling of earth.

Nah, the earth's not going to be recycled...it's being destroyed to make way for an 
intergalatic
limited-access superhighway...   ;-)


> Who will survive?

Arthur Dent.


> So I remember the Titanic because  those that went to the bottom and
> witnessed remains said no iceburg downed that ship

Actually what has been said is that based on the damage seen, it seems unlikely that 
one iceberg was the sole
cause of the ship sinking, and the actual culprit that has been implicated (based on 
the EVIDENCE seen in the
dives at the site) is that corners were cut in the Titanic's construction and bolts of 
a lesser grade than
originally specified were used.  These bolts snapped under the strain of the impact 
with the iceberg,
resulting in the ship taking on water in more compartments than those actually 
directly damaged by the
iceberg.  If the original construction specs had been strictly adhered to, it is 
unlikely those bolts would
have snapped, and hence unlikely that the ship would have sunk -- or at least, sunk as 
quickly as it did.

The fact that all the priceless artifacts you mention were onboard when the ship went 
down argues more for the
fact that the owners of those artifacts hadn't a clue as to the ship's fate, rather 
than a prior sinister
knowledge that it would indeed sink on its maiden voyage.


> Conan Doyle, a Catholic Knighted by Queen Victoria who had a father who
> loved Edward Fitzgerald and charged he had been murdered.why would
> Doyle warn of submarines prior to downing of Titanic...

You of course have proof of this?


> ..and why only
> one reference to these German Scientists who had been working on
> artificial iceburgs, unless someone was going to invent the slurpee?

And you have proof of this also?  If such technology existed in 1912, why haven't we 
seen its use yet?

All those Arab princes who have tried to tow Antartic icebergs to the middle east to 
use the melted water in
the desert would be very interested in technology enabling one to build 'artificial' 
icebergs...


> A heartbeat away is the son of a bakery  cart driver who probably puled
> booze for Al Capone type figure and then got his liquor permit when
> things went their way and prohbition defeatedand then this man sent
> his son to Yale?With the Wasp families?

You'll be glad to know that Lieberman was reelected to his Senate seat here in 
Connecticut, so if the
presidential election goes to Bush, you will still be seeing Leiberman around...   ;-)


> Now I am of Nordic blood and English Irish elsh desent and in particular
> of Welsh Rare Rabbit descent...

Yes, most of us do consider you pretty cheesy...of the Velveeta sort...


> And Sophia Loren still looks like Mussolini who was in her family -
> these movie stars do get arund...

Strange, if she is related to Mussolini, the connection did not help her during the 
war when Mussolini was
still in power...she and her mother were starving beggars then.

And quite frankly, I see absolutely NO resemblence between Sophia Loren and Benito 
Mussolini...

Perhaps you also have some obscure dirt to dish on Bridgette Bardot and Jeanne Moreau 
and other foreign
bombshells of the 1950s and 60s?   ;-)


June

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Re: [CTRL] Hey Einstein. This one's for you.

2000-11-08 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld

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> I really think you ought to pay better attention to what Saba writes.
> The truth is out there, and Saba has it all.

I must admit to not paying as close attention as you do, Josh...many of Aleisha's 
posts are just 'skimmers'
for me...

One would think her Bible Code would enable her to call this election...  ;-)


> None Dare Call It Stupidity

Or a Campaign of Disinformation...


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Re: [CTRL] Hey Einstein. This one's for you.

2000-11-08 Thread Nurev Ind Research

-Caveat Lector-

You are such an insane idiot!

Joshua2
===
Aleisha Saba wrote:
>
> -Caveat Lector-
>
> Germany and England and France throughout history have always been at
> each others throat...England even built a channel under the water to
> france - so depends on who goes where in time of a war - makes invasion
> easier??
>
> Hitler is is said had a father named Schicklegrubber and then his name
> was Heider.Joshua 2 had noted that Jews are often given two names -
> like Ehud Barak is Ehud Brug and likes to dress like a woman.
>
> Ashkenazi Jews - it is possible thiss was Hitler who did more for
> Zionist State than any other human being..55 million died in that
> war.
>
> As for the Titanic years before many things were happaening around the
> world and war with Germany part of the plan obviously.
>
> Note Baron von Schirak had the bible code in Speers Diary it is
> mentioned - watchword bible code Russians took away and Werner von Braun
> was a Scienties but both were of the nobility and Germans - look at Hess
> and Hitler and Goring with their snake eyes and Hess with his busy black
> eyebrows and beady eyed Himmler and tell me they were Nordic?
>
> Hitler used the bible for his would be 1000 Year Reich - Hitler's
> children born in Deuterony and drilled to turn in their mother and
> father if they did not follow their doctrine - but in Revelation he took
> his 1000 year Reich - and the genocide and plagues were all planned - he
> merely assumed the role of the Old Testament God for Vengeance and the
> New Testament for his 1000 year reich for it is this bible that is the
> mast er plan...Hitler was Austrian, not German and had three
> different names it seems, like Ehud Barak aka Brug and this Ariel Sharon
> uses two names - they do this to use names in bible.
>
> As for Israelies how they operate, just bring up wha happened when they
> murdered our sailors on the USS Liberty.as for the Arizona this
> attack was expected and clue to this was a coded sentence - Climb
> Mt..forget the mountains name, but last Chapter of Mathew JFK
> took name of his book While England Slept.he had PT 109 - Psalm 109
> is the vicious Jewish vendetta."let his days be few and let another
> take his office - let his children be fatherless:...nice people
> wrote that crap?
>
> Thee are murder rituals with specific meanings and they are masonic in
> origin and masons come in many different colors/chameleons all.
>
> It all fits together but Prince Faisal was right when he said that
> European Zionists (Ashkenazi Jews) cause alla the trouble in the Holy
> Land - they want war to take over the oil.and the story about Hitler
> being jewish makes a lot of sense, for Wild Bill Donovan of OSS thought
> he was and so did Churchill.paving the way to steal the oil from the
> Arabs.
>
> Titanic?   Well JP Morgan knew something and a copy of the Rubiyait of
> Omar Kayam was on board an expensive treasure, jewelled book.and
> Kayam was friend and propagandist for Hassan the Old Assassin.Edward
> Fitzgerald who translated the Rubyait still haunts Merton's Rectory -
> many people do not understand his writing but never was the rose so read
> as but where Ceasar bled has very specific meaning.
>
> Hitler even had the Eagles Nest at an Alamat just like the old Assassins
> and the swatska he used had special meaninga sun symbol 
>
> So from Titanic down to WWII it was Englan and Japan and the Royalist
> who brought America into a war to die for a lot of greedy people - never
> again...Ehud Barak aka Brug the Thug, Sharon, Arafat, Blair and
> Clinton all CFR connected and are running a murder inc.
> Arabs are building up and one even putting 5 billion dolars more into
> AOL.Com for propaganda purposes for the Arabs are finally getting
> smartk.
>
> Then you have USS Cole like the Titanic and the USS Liberty and the
> Arizona - most notable thing these peole were all Americans.
> '
>
> The great Americans were Giants that built this country for it took
> money - and I imagine a lot of the gold came from graverobbin.
>
> I know where a lot of gold is hid long forgotten about but I imagine if
> they ever find this one dead volcano you might find Marcos Gold and even
> moreheliocopoters used to be seen going in and out..a
> pyramid of gold stashed there...like the Shah of Iran had a solid
> gold toilet.and Fischer had nazi dental gold without a dubt taken
> from the U Boat sunk off Key West - buried treasure..cot him his son
> and daughter in law.
>
> Hope youdo not think any of the wars have been over freedom?   That our
> boys should like themselves doon and dee for the likes of those who
> start the fights and want our boys to come in and finish them - like
> cowardly Israelies who downed the USS Liberty and just maybe the Cole?
> Ah the ones who escape like a Kissinger or an Albright - these are the
> Judas and Wilde said who live 

Re: [CTRL] Hey Einstein. This one's for you.

2000-11-07 Thread Aleisha Saba

-Caveat Lector-

Germany and England and France throughout history have always been at
each others throat...England even built a channel under the water to
france - so depends on who goes where in time of a war - makes invasion
easier??

Hitler is is said had a father named Schicklegrubber and then his name
was Heider.Joshua 2 had noted that Jews are often given two names -
like Ehud Barak is Ehud Brug and likes to dress like a woman.

Ashkenazi Jews - it is possible thiss was Hitler who did more for
Zionist State than any other human being..55 million died in that
war.

As for the Titanic years before many things were happaening around the
world and war with Germany part of the plan obviously.

Note Baron von Schirak had the bible code in Speers Diary it is
mentioned - watchword bible code Russians took away and Werner von Braun
was a Scienties but both were of the nobility and Germans - look at Hess
and Hitler and Goring with their snake eyes and Hess with his busy black
eyebrows and beady eyed Himmler and tell me they were Nordic?

Hitler used the bible for his would be 1000 Year Reich - Hitler's
children born in Deuterony and drilled to turn in their mother and
father if they did not follow their doctrine - but in Revelation he took
his 1000 year Reich - and the genocide and plagues were all planned - he
merely assumed the role of the Old Testament God for Vengeance and the
New Testament for his 1000 year reich for it is this bible that is the
mast er plan...Hitler was Austrian, not German and had three
different names it seems, like Ehud Barak aka Brug and this Ariel Sharon
uses two names - they do this to use names in bible.

As for Israelies how they operate, just bring up wha happened when they
murdered our sailors on the USS Liberty.as for the Arizona this
attack was expected and clue to this was a coded sentence - Climb
Mt..forget the mountains name, but last Chapter of Mathew JFK
took name of his book While England Slept.he had PT 109 - Psalm 109
is the vicious Jewish vendetta."let his days be few and let another
take his office - let his children be fatherless:...nice people
wrote that crap?

Thee are murder rituals with specific meanings and they are masonic in
origin and masons come in many different colors/chameleons all.

It all fits together but Prince Faisal was right when he said that
European Zionists (Ashkenazi Jews) cause alla the trouble in the Holy
Land - they want war to take over the oil.and the story about Hitler
being jewish makes a lot of sense, for Wild Bill Donovan of OSS thought
he was and so did Churchill.paving the way to steal the oil from the
Arabs.

Titanic?   Well JP Morgan knew something and a copy of the Rubiyait of
Omar Kayam was on board an expensive treasure, jewelled book.and
Kayam was friend and propagandist for Hassan the Old Assassin.Edward
Fitzgerald who translated the Rubyait still haunts Merton's Rectory -
many people do not understand his writing but never was the rose so read
as but where Ceasar bled has very specific meaning.

Hitler even had the Eagles Nest at an Alamat just like the old Assassins
and the swatska he used had special meaninga sun symbol 

So from Titanic down to WWII it was Englan and Japan and the Royalist
who brought America into a war to die for a lot of greedy people - never
again...Ehud Barak aka Brug the Thug, Sharon, Arafat, Blair and
Clinton all CFR connected and are running a murder inc.
Arabs are building up and one even putting 5 billion dolars more into
AOL.Com for propaganda purposes for the Arabs are finally getting
smartk.

Then you have USS Cole like the Titanic and the USS Liberty and the
Arizona - most notable thing these peole were all Americans.
'

The great Americans were Giants that built this country for it took
money - and I imagine a lot of the gold came from graverobbin.

I know where a lot of gold is hid long forgotten about but I imagine if
they ever find this one dead volcano you might find Marcos Gold and even
moreheliocopoters used to be seen going in and out..a
pyramid of gold stashed there...like the Shah of Iran had a solid
gold toilet.and Fischer had nazi dental gold without a dubt taken
from the U Boat sunk off Key West - buried treasure..cot him his son
and daughter in law.

Hope youdo not think any of the wars have been over freedom?   That our
boys should like themselves doon and dee for the likes of those who
start the fights and want our boys to come in and finish them - like
cowardly Israelies who downed the USS Liberty and just maybe the Cole?
Ah the ones who escape like a Kissinger or an Albright - these are the
Judas and Wilde said who live to  write the books

Even Arthur Bremer knew that one when his first line in his diary was
"call me Ishmael".Ahab was member of ancient order of Assassins
without a doubt.

Even David Kore(sh) knew the plan an Halle Bopp Heaven's Gate knew of
the planned gen

Re: [CTRL] Hey Einstein. This one's for you.

2000-11-07 Thread Nurev Ind Research

-Caveat Lector-

Ynr Chyldz Wyld wrote:
>
> -Caveat Lector-
>
> From: "Aleisha Saba" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Two items of interest...German ship was only ship to see the iceberg
> > and said it had paint from Titanic on it...Germans also were working
> > on of all things Artificial Icebergs during this period and how easy for
> > a submarine lurking in water to engineer a loaded  iceburg to the ship -
> > the people who went below to see this great ship said no iceberg caused
> > that ship to go down.
>
> So you are suggesting that the Titanic was sunk by the Germans?

No. By the Israelis.

>
> Why would they do that?

Because before Barak became Prime Minister of Israel, he was an iceberg who
didn't like big ships.

>
> The Titanic sank in April of 1912, World War One didn't begin until August 1914...
>
> > .bodies of men killed on Arizona still
> > remain in ocean and I had a friend named Daughter on that one who was
> > from Ohio and in the engine room - just a kid.
>
> What does the Arizona -- sunk by the Japanese at Pearl Harbor -- have to
> do with Germans, Israelis, et al?

The Arizona was not sunk by the Japanese, but by the Israelis who took
secret orders from Hitler who was really an AshkeNAZI Jew.

I really think you ought to pay better attention to what Saba writes.
The truth is out there, and Saba has it all.

None Dare Call It Stupidity

Joshua2

>
> June
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Re: [CTRL] Hey Einstein. This one's for you.

2000-11-07 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld

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From: "Aleisha Saba" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Two items of interest...German ship was only ship to see the iceberg
> and said it had paint from Titanic on it...Germans also were working
> on of all things Artificial Icebergs during this period and how easy for
> a submarine lurking in water to engineer a loaded  iceburg to the ship -
> the people who went below to see this great ship said no iceberg caused
> that ship to go down.

So you are suggesting that the Titanic was sunk by the Germans?

Why would they do that?

The Titanic sank in April of 1912, World War One didn't begin until August 1914...


> .bodies of men killed on Arizona still
> remain in ocean and I had a friend named Daughter on that one who was
> from Ohio and in the engine room - just a kid.

What does the Arizona -- sunk by the Japanese at Pearl Harbor -- have to do with 
Germans, Israelis, et al?


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Re: [CTRL] Hey Einstein. This one's for you.

2000-11-07 Thread Aleisha Saba

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Correction please  I stated I was stil looking for parties that sank the
submarianes - please I meant the TITANIC..a great ship that in 1890
period about Madame Helen Blavantsky reminded us that this White Star
line was an "unluckey" and then we had the book FUTILE about a great
ship called TITAN which sank hit by iceberg - and not enough lifeboats,
etc.
Blavasky rode with Garibaldi and his Red Shirts when he reduced the size
of papal property - he was a Mason and no doubt avenging death of
DeMolay?


SO REMEMBER THE USS LIBERTY, THE US COLE and maybe now and then, the
mummy from the Temple of AYE - a High Priestess aboard the Titanic in a
golden coffin and consider a pyramid of ICE .. what else was aboard
that great ship destined to die in Aprilfor a clue, read the 69th
Psalm and consider othr readings for that date in the bible - reference
Old Man - Code Word aboard the Titanic that day indicating sabotage from
within?

Mummy not mentioned for it was not in the cargo area but aboard under
personal supervision of the Captain.and hey what about that guy who
dressed like a woman and left ship first?   Tut - Tut.

Sorry for error but there is grave danger for those who go Down To the
Sea in Ships a line taken out of the bible...

When Titanic sank they sang the song about Those At Peril in the
Sea...they sang and played that at JFK funeral and on his desk he
had a rembrance of PT 109strange coincidence, for 109th Psalm is THE
VENDETTA...terrible piece of oratory - no wonder the Catholics
combined this psalm with the 108th Psalm..

English love to bury gold in the water it is legend..now take Mel
Fischer's gold some of which turned out to be dental gold and consider
why Department of Interior in 1979 refused me list of stolen art, gold,
etc., from WWII.such a list is or was in existance at that time.

Holy Land - Religion has never been a real issue for a long long time -
it is always the gold is it nor, or the oil - an now the drugs.

The G.O.D. Machine - Gold, Oil, and Drugsforget the wine - it is
time to dry out.

Sorry for errorYeminie Crickets.

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Re: [CTRL] Hey Einstein. This one's for you.

2000-11-06 Thread Aleisha Saba

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Hey Joshua - now the Russians say they  torpedoed their own
submarine..so our CIA Director was over there when the USS Cole went
down.

Me I am still looking for the party who sank the submarines.

Two items of interest...German ship was only ship to see the iceberg
and said it had paint from Titanic on it...Germans also were working
on of all things Artificial Icebergs during this period and how easy for
a submarine lurking in water to engineer a loaded  iceburg to the ship -
the people who went below to see this great ship said no iceberg caused
that ship to go down.

So we have a High Priestess from the Temple of Aye on the Titanic
yetin a golden coffin  and a jewelled copy of the Rubyait -
priceless.Sir Arthur Conan Doyle had warmed prior to WWI about
German subs, and peple on that ship the Oh So Social set were returning
from upper Egypt with their little trinkets stolen from the greatest
grave robbery in history.

So Einhorn  (that means one horn for I know you are not playing with a
full deck)do you believe Ehud Barak aka Ehud Brug who dressed
like a woman playing Deborah - think he would rather be a hammer than a
niail?

One thing I like about that guy he has a sense of humor.Putin lacks
humor.so Putin left town the day the Russian sub sank - no
wonder..Russian torpedo got it?

By Yeminie - I think the Mossad is not playing with full deck and Barak
aka Brug is regressing to days when he was Mafia Jewish Hit Man of
Ashkenazi origin - and I think he is also in bed with CIA and Janet Reno
is his type toowhat the did at Waco cam only be compared to what
they do in Palestine?

Birds of feather - where the carcase is the vultures do assembly..


Good Night Joshua and remember,  you cannot help if you are not playing
with full deck.maybe Russians sank USS Cole for you know, they want
to get into the oil business...and Putin was a no show that day
having left the territory..first think Putid did was to call for
financial support from USA did he not and he said they couldl not afford
to bring up those men ...bodies of men killed on Arizona still
remain in ocean and I had a friend named Daughter on that one who was
from Ohio and in the engine room - just a kid.

These people, Arafat, Sharon, Barak aka Brug and Sharon has aka too -
Clinton, Putin, Blair - all are part of NWO out to screw the domestic
jews and arab moslems..Prince Faisal told me that in 1967.

Saba aka High Priestess of Church of Black Sheepbaa, baa, baa

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[CTRL] Hey Einstein. This one's for you.

2000-11-06 Thread Nurev Ind Research

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Mossad involved in USS bombing
http://www.yobserver.com/headline.html

Yemen Observer

President Saleh has pointed a finger
of blame at Israel's intelligence service
Mossad for the October 12 bombing of the
USS Cole. "If I refer to Mossad, and it
is probable that it is involved, that's
because movements such as Islamic Jihad
were infiltrated by Israel during their
stay in Afghanistan in the 1980s,” he said
in a speech given in the Hadramaut, adding
that the intelligence agencies were still
unclear as to who was behind the bombing.
"We are trying to make sure of the
nationalities of those who were killed in
the explosion, because all our information
on the subject was provided by witnesses.
Some people said they  had an Egyptian accent,
others said they had a Saudi accent."

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