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Re: [CTRL] Hey Einstein. This one's for you.
-Caveat Lector- Acts 19 is actually key reading date for date of Apollo - obviously the bible calendar code was used by two different elements - one our military and the othr masonic infiltrators of another country - remember the Germans had this calendar at Spandau while the Russian guard took it away from them insisting it was coded In certain concordances, Acts 16 to 19 equates to sabotage - let you worry about which bible that is but it is a Kng James Concordance. Dodi Fayed - note reference to the mighty temple of Diana who was to be despised.certain newsmen said the Queen despised Diana, poor choice or deliberate choice of words? But the Chariots of Fire - Dodi evidently took this from Psalm 46. So this is the psalm which many believe Shakespeare left his secret ciphers - it is also from where Edgar Cayce took name of his book There Is A River - was reading that piece of phoney balogne literature the day Mt. Helene went up - timed and set for explosion - Home Shopping still selling gems of a low grade type from that blast - but what else was there? Might add Marcos hid a lot of gold in a dead volcano and heliocopthers were seen going in and out - wonder if Marco's gold is still there at this oh so secret location - you know the Japanese probably own it by now? So it is obvious, Virtuosa, one you play a mean guitar out of key - that you do not know what a virtuosa is and you probably twang away with a toothpick. So - take the Swine Flu hit us in late 70 period; people do not know enough to be insulted.but the date all the Legionaires became ill and died - key reading was "My Name is Legion for we are many and the disease enters into the swine": Now this was old Nazi experiment but keep in mind it was he Rusians who said this bible watchword calendar was coded - so evidently all in the famly. So Doo Dah, you all..you lack the imagination of a virtuosa - and I bet you sleep with your socks on. Think you will find the highest degress in masonry - some will know of this bible code - for they have a similar daily bible reading calendar in their blue bible - the bigger edition - the one with pages arranged keyed to major assassinations (King, Kennedy, and RFK and yes JFK)now of course their calendar is a little different for lower degree masons evidently aare given this one - and stranger yet - in Numbers, it skips from Number 5 to 29 which I found strange. So go take a climb up Mt. Nebo and take good look at promised land.and keep in mind that Enoch and Moses, they never found their bodies did they - law of disappearance - See Hoffa. Bye you all...find someone in CIA or in the top Miitary such as Joint Chief of Staff - for this bible code was in a bible owned by my brother in law who was isn both under Vandenberg who was head of CIA then and then head of Joint Chief of Staff, Thor Chief, set up BMEWS and worked with Werner von Braun last tour at Redstone Arsenal for you see they were friends. The Germans took us to the moon - we just went along for the ride, but it took John F. Kennedy's dream to make this possible. Keep in mind the CFR took over the Democrat Party - and these are Huey Long's fascists in disguise. You all hve fun now...find some good clues in Ezekial 38 and 39.symbolism of the President of the USA there - keyed to murder of JFKI called my manuscript The Valley of Hamon Gog - should have made that Tut ank Hamon Gog.. Remember there will now be three Presidents in 3 years, and maybe even another three High Priest Popes - or a Putin knocked off the mountain along with - well President Lieberman, how does that sound - refer to Daniel in bible alsobig propaganda thing. I keep thinking of Jack Ruby reciting over and over when in jail after silencing forever Oswald- Shadrach, Meschenk, and Abenego...keyed to JFK who met death when the sun was in its zenith, at high noon - murdered in the streets of Laredo and buried in red rosesstrange, red roses when yellow rose of Texas would have been more popular but instead they got red and white roses with a goodbye old pal note. So much for life of Meyer Lansky - Russian Mafia - such a sainted man. A. Saba Dare To Call It Conspiracy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.
Re: [CTRL] Hey Einstein. This one's for you.
-Caveat Lector- Hey Virtuoso - here is 46th Psalm - what you doing composing your own music? Who are you, the Roto Rooter Man? So Alamoth - the music the Moth and the Flame comes to mind - flying too near the sun as Icarus once did.Moth got burnt in the fire in Dallas? So Alamoth is only once in the bible and then we have the Eagles nest once home of Assassins and Hitler. So here is the 46th Psalm, and note the story of David Kore(sh)..played lots of music there, like Boots Made For Walking over graves of little babies murdered by FBI like Ruby Ridge. J. Edgar must be spinning in his grave to see the reputation and character of his FBI so slandered and destroyed by the communists within.see that guy named Hammer was it? Bible, King James. Psalms, from The holy Bible, King James version Electronic Text Center, University of Virginia Library Conditions of Use | The entire work (260 KB) | Table of Contents for this work | | All on-line databases | Etext Center Homepage | Psalms, psalm 46 Compare with Revised Standard Version: Psal.046 1: God is our refuge and strength, a very present help in trouble. 2: Therefore will not we fear, though the earth be removed, and though the mountains be carried into the midst of the sea; 3: Though the waters thereof roar and be troubled, though the mountains shake with the swelling thereof. Selah. 4: There is a river, the streams whereof shall make glad the city of God, the holy place of the tabernacles of the most High. 5: God is in the midst of her; she shall not be moved: God shall help her, and that right early. 6: The heathen raged, the kingdoms were moved: he uttered his voice, the earth melted. 7: The LORD of hosts is with us; the God of Jacob is our refuge. Selah. 8: Come, behold the works of the LORD, what desolations he hath made in the earth. 9: He maketh wars to cease unto the end of the earth; he breaketh the bow, and cutteth the spear in sunder; he burneth the chariot in the fire. 10: Be still, and know that I am God: I will be exalted among the heathen, I will be exalted in the earth. 11: The LORD of hosts is with us; the God of Jacob is our refuge. Selah. A. Saba Dare To Call It Conspiracy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hey Einstein. This one's for you.
CAVEAT LECTOR! ICHBINRUEDIREGENBOGENINBERLIN,ICHBINEINE JUDEFREIEKORPORALINTHENEWDEMOCRATICGERMANY! WEWATCHEDTHEAQUARIANSUNRISETOITSZENITH,FORNOWITIS13.05HERE... JA,ITISACONSPIRACY...THEAQUARIANCONSPIRACY! SHALOMSAB(R)A,OFLOWEROFTHEDESERTITSCHILDRENOFTHEDAWN! UNITE!FORTHENEWJERUSALEMISDESCENDINGFROMTHEHEAVENS!!! AleishaSabawrote: -CaveatLector- 'q' A.Saba DareToCallItConspiracy AHREF="http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org/A> DECLARATIONDISCLAIMER == CTRLisadiscussioninformationalexchangelist.Proselytizingpropagandic screedsareunwelcomed.Substancenotsoap-boxingplease!Theseare sordidmattersand'conspiracytheory'withitsmanyhalf-truths,mis- directionsandoutrightfraudsisusedpoliticallybydifferentgroupswith majorandminoreffectsspreadthroughoutthespectrumoftimeandthought. Thatbeingsaid,CTRLgivesnoendorsementtothevalidityofposts,and alwayssuggeststoreaders;bewaryofwhatyouread.CTRLgivesno credencetoHolocaustdenialandnazi'sneednotapply. Letuspleasebecivilandasalways,CaveatLector.
Re: [CTRL] Hey Einstein. This one's for you.
-Caveat Lector- You are such an insane idiot! Joshua2 === Aleisha Saba wrote: -Caveat Lector- Germany and England and France throughout history have always been at each others throat...England even built a channel under the water to france - so depends on who goes where in time of a war - makes invasion easier?? Hitler is is said had a father named Schicklegrubber and then his name was Heider.Joshua 2 had noted that Jews are often given two names - like Ehud Barak is Ehud Brug and likes to dress like a woman. Ashkenazi Jews - it is possible thiss was Hitler who did more for Zionist State than any other human being..55 million died in that war. As for the Titanic years before many things were happaening around the world and war with Germany part of the plan obviously. Note Baron von Schirak had the bible code in Speers Diary it is mentioned - watchword bible code Russians took away and Werner von Braun was a Scienties but both were of the nobility and Germans - look at Hess and Hitler and Goring with their snake eyes and Hess with his busy black eyebrows and beady eyed Himmler and tell me they were Nordic? Hitler used the bible for his would be 1000 Year Reich - Hitler's children born in Deuterony and drilled to turn in their mother and father if they did not follow their doctrine - but in Revelation he took his 1000 year Reich - and the genocide and plagues were all planned - he merely assumed the role of the Old Testament God for Vengeance and the New Testament for his 1000 year reich for it is this bible that is the mast er plan...Hitler was Austrian, not German and had three different names it seems, like Ehud Barak aka Brug and this Ariel Sharon uses two names - they do this to use names in bible. As for Israelies how they operate, just bring up wha happened when they murdered our sailors on the USS Liberty.as for the Arizona this attack was expected and clue to this was a coded sentence - Climb Mt..forget the mountains name, but last Chapter of Mathew JFK took name of his book While England Slept.he had PT 109 - Psalm 109 is the vicious Jewish vendetta."let his days be few and let another take his office - let his children be fatherless:...nice people wrote that crap? Thee are murder rituals with specific meanings and they are masonic in origin and masons come in many different colors/chameleons all. It all fits together but Prince Faisal was right when he said that European Zionists (Ashkenazi Jews) cause alla the trouble in the Holy Land - they want war to take over the oil.and the story about Hitler being jewish makes a lot of sense, for Wild Bill Donovan of OSS thought he was and so did Churchill.paving the way to steal the oil from the Arabs. Titanic? Well JP Morgan knew something and a copy of the Rubiyait of Omar Kayam was on board an expensive treasure, jewelled book.and Kayam was friend and propagandist for Hassan the Old Assassin.Edward Fitzgerald who translated the Rubyait still haunts Merton's Rectory - many people do not understand his writing but never was the rose so read as but where Ceasar bled has very specific meaning. Hitler even had the Eagles Nest at an Alamat just like the old Assassins and the swatska he used had special meaninga sun symbol So from Titanic down to WWII it was Englan and Japan and the Royalist who brought America into a war to die for a lot of greedy people - never again...Ehud Barak aka Brug the Thug, Sharon, Arafat, Blair and Clinton all CFR connected and are running a murder inc. Arabs are building up and one even putting 5 billion dolars more into AOL.Com for propaganda purposes for the Arabs are finally getting smartk. Then you have USS Cole like the Titanic and the USS Liberty and the Arizona - most notable thing these peole were all Americans. ' The great Americans were Giants that built this country for it took money - and I imagine a lot of the gold came from graverobbin. I know where a lot of gold is hid long forgotten about but I imagine if they ever find this one dead volcano you might find Marcos Gold and even moreheliocopoters used to be seen going in and out..a pyramid of gold stashed there...like the Shah of Iran had a solid gold toilet.and Fischer had nazi dental gold without a dubt taken from the U Boat sunk off Key West - buried treasure..cot him his son and daughter in law. Hope youdo not think any of the wars have been over freedom? That our boys should like themselves doon and dee for the likes of those who start the fights and want our boys to come in and finish them - like cowardly Israelies who downed the USS Liberty and just maybe the Cole? Ah the ones who escape like a Kissinger or an Albright - these are the Judas and Wilde said who live to write the books Even Arthur Bremer knew that one when his first line in his diary
Re: [CTRL] Hey Einstein. This one's for you.
-Caveat Lector- From: "Nurev Ind Research" [EMAIL PROTECTED] I really think you ought to pay better attention to what Saba writes. The truth is out there, and Saba has it all. I must admit to not paying as close attention as you do, Josh...many of Aleisha's posts are just 'skimmers' for me... One would think her Bible Code would enable her to call this election... ;-) None Dare Call It Stupidity Or a Campaign of Disinformation... June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hey Einstein. This one's for you.
-Caveat Lector- From: "Aleisha Saba" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Even David Kore(sh) knew the plan an Halle Bopp Heaven's Gate knew of the planned genocide and the recycling of earth. Nah, the earth's not going to be recycled...it's being destroyed to make way for an intergalatic limited-access superhighway... ;-) Who will survive? Arthur Dent. So I remember the Titanic because those that went to the bottom and witnessed remains said no iceburg downed that ship Actually what has been said is that based on the damage seen, it seems unlikely that one iceberg was the sole cause of the ship sinking, and the actual culprit that has been implicated (based on the EVIDENCE seen in the dives at the site) is that corners were cut in the Titanic's construction and bolts of a lesser grade than originally specified were used. These bolts snapped under the strain of the impact with the iceberg, resulting in the ship taking on water in more compartments than those actually directly damaged by the iceberg. If the original construction specs had been strictly adhered to, it is unlikely those bolts would have snapped, and hence unlikely that the ship would have sunk -- or at least, sunk as quickly as it did. The fact that all the priceless artifacts you mention were onboard when the ship went down argues more for the fact that the owners of those artifacts hadn't a clue as to the ship's fate, rather than a prior sinister knowledge that it would indeed sink on its maiden voyage. Conan Doyle, a Catholic Knighted by Queen Victoria who had a father who loved Edward Fitzgerald and charged he had been murdered.why would Doyle warn of submarines prior to downing of Titanic... You of course have proof of this? ..and why only one reference to these German Scientists who had been working on artificial iceburgs, unless someone was going to invent the slurpee? And you have proof of this also? If such technology existed in 1912, why haven't we seen its use yet? All those Arab princes who have tried to tow Antartic icebergs to the middle east to use the melted water in the desert would be very interested in technology enabling one to build 'artificial' icebergs... A heartbeat away is the son of a bakery cart driver who probably puled booze for Al Capone type figure and then got his liquor permit when things went their way and prohbition defeatedand then this man sent his son to Yale?With the Wasp families? You'll be glad to know that Lieberman was reelected to his Senate seat here in Connecticut, so if the presidential election goes to Bush, you will still be seeing Leiberman around... ;-) Now I am of Nordic blood and English Irish elsh desent and in particular of Welsh Rare Rabbit descent... Yes, most of us do consider you pretty cheesy...of the Velveeta sort... And Sophia Loren still looks like Mussolini who was in her family - these movie stars do get arund... Strange, if she is related to Mussolini, the connection did not help her during the war when Mussolini was still in power...she and her mother were starving beggars then. And quite frankly, I see absolutely NO resemblence between Sophia Loren and Benito Mussolini... Perhaps you also have some obscure dirt to dish on Bridgette Bardot and Jeanne Moreau and other foreign bombshells of the 1950s and 60s? ;-) June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hey Einstein. This one's for you.
-Caveat Lector- The bible code in not based on prophecy but planned murders some disguised to look prophetic.lke JFK and Martin Luther King. This particular edition of the Gideon placed bible was not in the possession of those who meet in hotel rooms. For a sample of this code if the movie Executive Action comes out - Mark Lane stole my code copyrighted in 1969 and used in this movie with disclaimer. One other item, he had the wrong year of this particular bible for the page numbers were also diffrent - he had I believe the 1969 edition - this was a 1954 Editoin and for reference to watchword code seeAlbert Speers Diary - Russian guard took from Baron von Schirack saying it was coded So this Washington Post reporter Bob Woodward had copy of my MS and would not return.when this Bible Code book came out, the one where you play the phoney number games trying to make it look like prophcy rather than planned murders used by conspirtors, sure enough he was Washington Post reporter - Bob Kaiser sent my mauscript to Jon Christen and Bill Turner - way back in 1969 and when I was in hospital on January 24, 1972 my home had been broken into, things stolen and wrecked, and athe police who did the deed, hand delivered a letter to me from Turner and Christenson - there was no postage on same - so they wanted me to spy out a creep by name of Jerry Owen to whom Kaiser referred in his book RFK MUST DIEand in Sirhan's diary he speaks of a bible code - plant story of course without a doubt.Los Angeles Times referred to this article and Turner and Christensen had sent it in the letter but it had been removed. Never saw the article - later I concluded Turner former FBI enemy of J. Edgar Hoover was not trustworthy and they were out to make fast buck. So my last letter to them was to get off their dead cans because they were going to shoot Wallace - and they did. Meanwhile this Jerry Owen had Sirhan in his van night before RFK murdered and they were going to come and pay me a visit for the idiot had been from Ashville, or Ahland Ohio - and I have his picture with Bob Hope and the old time movie star Mike Mazurka - but one look at Owens face, who was called Shepard of the Hills, I knew what he was - a spy, a mason and indirectly in on assassination of RFK...might add Bob Hope had connections to House of Sun in Florida where my friend an MI6 held seances with the othr spies until the Hamberger King Dave Thomas bought same, for over 3 million dolars in 1979lots of bit time stuff down there, landing strips, docksand lady who previously ownd this Spanish Hacienda ran a Mafia half way house for Drugs in her"Hacienda del Sol"..so much for the boys from Delos. So ever see a masonic code book?I understand my name had been written in one with a gold star after it...busy bodies. My very special Gideon Bible can be tracked to the highest intelligience source - and though my MI6 friend had heard of it, she had never actually seen it but she knew how it worked and had documentation that our CIA used it but then of course, the English taught our intelligence most of what they know from Secret Service to CIAnote the names - Desmond Fizgerald headed up dirty tricks, Wild Bill Donavan the OSS which turned to CIA and oh yes, a wife of Desmond Fitzgerald I undertand was with Adlai Stevenson when he dropped dead outside a restaurant at high noon - at least this was what Bud Festerwand wrote. We are dealing with principalities and the powers that be.looks like we lose June, for if Gore manages to slip by it will be President Lieberman, and the Holy Wars will begin. Imagin all kinds of election fraud charges will keep Cinton in office for maybe next 4 years? If we are lucky, someone will send a dump truck for a near miss.. Saba See movie Executive Action starring Burt Lancaster - cpyright 1974 - usual false leads for the Assassination Committee headed up by Fensterwald and invaded by Lane and Stone and Mailer - biggest coverup since Noah and Garden of Eden. A. Saba Dare To Call It Conspiracy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives
Re: [CTRL] Hey Einstein. This one's for you.
-Caveat Lector- Sophia Loren's sister as I recalled married into Mussoini family..this is why the Italians seem to love her so - after all Vito Genevese received a "Sun Medal" from Mussolini too - I imagine Meyer Lansky received some awards also since they were all in the family - fascists As for Titanic always wondered who carried insurance on it - Lloyds of London? Morgan got his man off which was a clue - clue to Titanic was the code words Old Man So some still sing of the Edmund Fitzgerald hat went down on great lakes and we had memorial day maritime disasters - like a memorial to the Bismarck.Remember the Bismarck? The Bennington and USS Scorpion and a few others, and the notorious Beverly Hill Fires a memorial day weekend.. One old Rosicrucian code was to take dates like say April 20 and make it stand for somethinghave diasters on Holidays and note the moon shot - John John and Teddy one dead and the other almost killed.for there are those who would give Werner von Braun no credit for reaching moon ahead of Russiansthose who sabotaged our space program incuding Challenger.. Maybe you can figure out why at the funeral of the Challenger astronauts the one astronaut read the 46th Psalm leaving a few clues? But these men are sworn to secrecy - my brother in law worked on that stuff and knew von Braun..attended one or two Geneva Conferences and also worked for Vandenberg but he was upset with me for getting into this stuff..loose cannons? So leave Joshua 2 to worry about that stuff.he better buy a hammer and a nail if Bush gets in. A. Saba Dare To Call It Conspiracy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: "Aleisha Saba" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 2:16 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Hey Einstein. This one's for you. One old Rosicrucian code was to take dates like say April 20 and make it stand for somethinghave diasters on Holidays and note the moon shot - John John and Teddy one dead and the other almost killed.for there are those who would give Werner von Braun no credit for reaching moon ahead of Russiansthose who sabotaged our space program incuding Challenger.. Maybe you can figure out why at the funeral of the Challenger astronauts the one astronaut read the 46th Psalm leaving a few clues? A. Saba Dare To Call It Conspiracy You mean this Psalm? 1 ? To the chief Musician for the sons of Korah, A Song upon Alamoth. God is our refuge and strength, a very present help in trouble. 2 Therefore will not we fear, though the earth be removed, and though the mountains be carried into the midst of the sea; 3 Though the waters thereof roar and be troubled, though the mountains shake with the swelling thereof. Selah. 4 There is a river, the streams whereof shall make glad the city of God, the holy place of the tabernacles of the most High. 5 God is in the midst of her; she shall not be moved: God shall help her, and that right early. 6 ? The heathen raged, the kingdoms were moved: he uttered his voice, the earth melted. 7 The LORD of hosts is with us; the God of Jacob is our refuge. Selah. 8 Come, behold the works of the LORD, what desolations he hath made in the earth. 9 He maketh wars to cease unto the end of the earth; he breaketh the bow, and cutteth the spear in sunder; he burneth the chariot in the fire. 10 Be still, and know that I am God: I will be exalted among the heathen, I will be exalted in the earth. 11 The LORD of hosts is with us; the God of Jacob is our refuge. Selah. And WHAT "clues" would they be dearest oracle? The sense and tense appear rather OVERT to my reading. Perhaps what you are saying, is, that it is perhaps one thing to perceive the good book as a source of divine revelation and instruction, and so on and so forth, as many do, and another thing to ascribe to it some form of superstitious mumbo jumbo "code" which, I suppose any group or individual could ascribe, in order to perhaps carry out some macabre and dire religio-political time-table upon us plebes of humanity? A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance not soap-boxing please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory' with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTR
Re: [CTRL] Hey Einstein. This one's for you.
-Caveat Lector- Correction please I stated I was stil looking for parties that sank the submarianes - please I meant the TITANIC..a great ship that in 1890 period about Madame Helen Blavantsky reminded us that this White Star line was an "unluckey" and then we had the book FUTILE about a great ship called TITAN which sank hit by iceberg - and not enough lifeboats, etc. Blavasky rode with Garibaldi and his Red Shirts when he reduced the size of papal property - he was a Mason and no doubt avenging death of DeMolay? SO REMEMBER THE USS LIBERTY, THE US COLE and maybe now and then, the mummy from the Temple of AYE - a High Priestess aboard the Titanic in a golden coffin and consider a pyramid of ICE .. what else was aboard that great ship destined to die in Aprilfor a clue, read the 69th Psalm and consider othr readings for that date in the bible - reference Old Man - Code Word aboard the Titanic that day indicating sabotage from within? Mummy not mentioned for it was not in the cargo area but aboard under personal supervision of the Captain.and hey what about that guy who dressed like a woman and left ship first? Tut - Tut. Sorry for error but there is grave danger for those who go Down To the Sea in Ships a line taken out of the bible... When Titanic sank they sang the song about Those At Peril in the Sea...they sang and played that at JFK funeral and on his desk he had a rembrance of PT 109strange coincidence, for 109th Psalm is THE VENDETTA...terrible piece of oratory - no wonder the Catholics combined this psalm with the 108th Psalm.. English love to bury gold in the water it is legend..now take Mel Fischer's gold some of which turned out to be dental gold and consider why Department of Interior in 1979 refused me list of stolen art, gold, etc., from WWII.such a list is or was in existance at that time. Holy Land - Religion has never been a real issue for a long long time - it is always the gold is it nor, or the oil - an now the drugs. The G.O.D. Machine - Gold, Oil, and Drugsforget the wine - it is time to dry out. Sorry for errorYeminie Crickets. A. Saba Dare To Call It Conspiracy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hey Einstein. This one's for you.
-Caveat Lector- From: "Aleisha Saba" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Two items of interest...German ship was only ship to see the iceberg and said it had paint from Titanic on it...Germans also were working on of all things Artificial Icebergs during this period and how easy for a submarine lurking in water to engineer a loaded iceburg to the ship - the people who went below to see this great ship said no iceberg caused that ship to go down. So you are suggesting that the Titanic was sunk by the Germans? Why would they do that? The Titanic sank in April of 1912, World War One didn't begin until August 1914... .bodies of men killed on Arizona still remain in ocean and I had a friend named Daughter on that one who was from Ohio and in the engine room - just a kid. What does the Arizona -- sunk by the Japanese at Pearl Harbor -- have to do with Germans, Israelis, et al? June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hey Einstein. This one's for you.
-Caveat Lector- Ynr Chyldz Wyld wrote: -Caveat Lector- From: "Aleisha Saba" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Two items of interest...German ship was only ship to see the iceberg and said it had paint from Titanic on it...Germans also were working on of all things Artificial Icebergs during this period and how easy for a submarine lurking in water to engineer a loaded iceburg to the ship - the people who went below to see this great ship said no iceberg caused that ship to go down. So you are suggesting that the Titanic was sunk by the Germans? No. By the Israelis. Why would they do that? Because before Barak became Prime Minister of Israel, he was an iceberg who didn't like big ships. The Titanic sank in April of 1912, World War One didn't begin until August 1914... .bodies of men killed on Arizona still remain in ocean and I had a friend named Daughter on that one who was from Ohio and in the engine room - just a kid. What does the Arizona -- sunk by the Japanese at Pearl Harbor -- have to do with Germans, Israelis, et al? The Arizona was not sunk by the Japanese, but by the Israelis who took secret orders from Hitler who was really an AshkeNAZI Jew. I really think you ought to pay better attention to what Saba writes. The truth is out there, and Saba has it all. None Dare Call It Stupidity Joshua2 June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- Germany and England and France throughout history have always been at each others throat...England even built a channel under the water to france - so depends on who goes where in time of a war - makes invasion easier?? Hitler is is said had a father named Schicklegrubber and then his name was Heider.Joshua 2 had noted that Jews are often given two names - like Ehud Barak is Ehud Brug and likes to dress like a woman. Ashkenazi Jews - it is possible thiss was Hitler who did more for Zionist State than any other human being..55 million died in that war. As for the Titanic years before many things were happaening around the world and war with Germany part of the plan obviously. Note Baron von Schirak had the bible code in Speers Diary it is mentioned - watchword bible code Russians took away and Werner von Braun was a Scienties but both were of the nobility and Germans - look at Hess and Hitler and Goring with their snake eyes and Hess with his busy black eyebrows and beady eyed Himmler and tell me they were Nordic? Hitler used the bible for his would be 1000 Year Reich - Hitler's children born in Deuterony and drilled to turn in their mother and father if they did not follow their doctrine - but in Revelation he took his 1000 year Reich - and the genocide and plagues were all planned - he merely assumed the role of the Old Testament God for Vengeance and the New Testament for his 1000 year reich for it is this bible that is the mast er plan...Hitler was Austrian, not German and had three different names it seems, like Ehud Barak aka Brug and this Ariel Sharon uses two names - they do this to use names in bible. As for Israelies how they operate, just bring up wha happened when they murdered our sailors on the USS Liberty.as for the Arizona this attack was expected and clue to this was a coded sentence - Climb Mt..forget the mountains name, but last Chapter of Mathew JFK took name of his book While England Slept.he had PT 109 - Psalm 109 is the vicious Jewish vendetta."let his days be few and let another take his office - let his children be fatherless:...nice people wrote that crap? Thee are murder rituals with specific meanings and they are masonic in origin and masons come in many different colors/chameleons all. It all fits together but Prince Faisal was right when he said that European Zionists (Ashkenazi Jews) cause alla the trouble in the Holy Land - they want war to take over the oil.and the story about Hitler being jewish makes a lot of sense, for Wild Bill Donovan of OSS thought he was and so did Churchill.paving the way to steal the oil from the Arabs. Titanic? Well JP Morgan knew something and a copy of the Rubiyait of Omar Kayam was on board an expensive treasure, jewelled book.and Kayam was friend and propagandist for Hassan the Old Assassin.Edward Fitzgerald who translated the Rubyait still haunts Merton's Rectory - many people do not understand his writing but never was the rose so read as but where Ceasar bled has very specific meaning. Hitler even had the Eagles Nest at an Alamat just like the old Assassins and the swatska he used had special meaninga sun symbol So from Titanic down to WWII it was Englan and Japan and the Royalist who brought America into a war to die for a lot of greedy people - never again...Ehud Barak aka Brug the Thug, Sharon, Arafat, Blair and Clinton all CFR connected and are running a murder inc. Arabs are building up and one even putting 5 billion dolars more into AOL.Com for propaganda purposes for the Arabs are finally getting smartk. Then you have USS Cole like the Titanic and the USS Liberty and the Arizona - most notable thing these peole were all Americans. ' The great Americans were Giants that built this country for it took money - and I imagine a lot of the gold came from graverobbin. I know where a lot of gold is hid long forgotten about but I imagine if they ever find this one dead volcano you might find Marcos Gold and even moreheliocopoters used to be seen going in and out..a pyramid of gold stashed there...like the Shah of Iran had a solid gold toilet.and Fischer had nazi dental gold without a dubt taken from the U Boat sunk off Key West - buried treasure..cot him his son and daughter in law. Hope youdo not think any of the wars have been over freedom? That our boys should like themselves doon and dee for the likes of those who start the fights and want our boys to come in and finish them - like cowardly Israelies who downed the USS Liberty and just maybe the Cole? Ah the ones who escape like a Kissinger or an Albright - these are the Judas and Wilde said who live to write the books Even Arthur Bremer knew that one when his first line in his diary was "call me Ishmael".Ahab was member of ancient order of Assassins without a doubt. Even David Kore(sh) knew the plan an Halle Bopp Heaven's Gate knew of the planned
[CTRL] Hey Einstein. This one's for you.
-Caveat Lector- Mossad involved in USS bombing http://www.yobserver.com/headline.html Yemen Observer President Saleh has pointed a finger of blame at Israel's intelligence service Mossad for the October 12 bombing of the USS Cole. "If I refer to Mossad, and it is probable that it is involved, that's because movements such as Islamic Jihad were infiltrated by Israel during their stay in Afghanistan in the 1980s, he said in a speech given in the Hadramaut, adding that the intelligence agencies were still unclear as to who was behind the bombing. "We are trying to make sure of the nationalities of those who were killed in the explosion, because all our information on the subject was provided by witnesses. Some people said they had an Egyptian accent, others said they had a Saudi accent." A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hey Einstein. This one's for you.
-Caveat Lector- Hey Joshua - now the Russians say they torpedoed their own submarine..so our CIA Director was over there when the USS Cole went down. Me I am still looking for the party who sank the submarines. Two items of interest...German ship was only ship to see the iceberg and said it had paint from Titanic on it...Germans also were working on of all things Artificial Icebergs during this period and how easy for a submarine lurking in water to engineer a loaded iceburg to the ship - the people who went below to see this great ship said no iceberg caused that ship to go down. So we have a High Priestess from the Temple of Aye on the Titanic yetin a golden coffin and a jewelled copy of the Rubyait - priceless.Sir Arthur Conan Doyle had warmed prior to WWI about German subs, and peple on that ship the Oh So Social set were returning from upper Egypt with their little trinkets stolen from the greatest grave robbery in history. So Einhorn (that means one horn for I know you are not playing with a full deck)do you believe Ehud Barak aka Ehud Brug who dressed like a woman playing Deborah - think he would rather be a hammer than a niail? One thing I like about that guy he has a sense of humor.Putin lacks humor.so Putin left town the day the Russian sub sank - no wonder..Russian torpedo got it? By Yeminie - I think the Mossad is not playing with full deck and Barak aka Brug is regressing to days when he was Mafia Jewish Hit Man of Ashkenazi origin - and I think he is also in bed with CIA and Janet Reno is his type toowhat the did at Waco cam only be compared to what they do in Palestine? Birds of feather - where the carcase is the vultures do assembly.. Good Night Joshua and remember, you cannot help if you are not playing with full deck.maybe Russians sank USS Cole for you know, they want to get into the oil business...and Putin was a no show that day having left the territory..first think Putid did was to call for financial support from USA did he not and he said they couldl not afford to bring up those men ...bodies of men killed on Arizona still remain in ocean and I had a friend named Daughter on that one who was from Ohio and in the engine room - just a kid. These people, Arafat, Sharon, Barak aka Brug and Sharon has aka too - Clinton, Putin, Blair - all are part of NWO out to screw the domestic jews and arab moslems..Prince Faisal told me that in 1967. Saba aka High Priestess of Church of Black Sheepbaa, baa, baa A. Saba Dare To Call It Conspiracy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
