Re: [CTRL] Mission Creep, Stealth War, Seen (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Samatha 'Smith' wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-04-08 07:51:43 EDT, you write: Recently picked up on net that Mossad was involved with CIA in assassination of JFK; well, this would make Gideon's Spies really in cahoots with my bible code which was situated within a particular edition of the Gideon placed bible.and why the Nazis coming to America under protective orders were aided by B'nai Brith, a masonic order of German descentthis would implicate Herr Kissinger, who was counter intelligence in 1940 period also working as Soviet Spy Code Name BOR. I came upon the same info recently (about the Mossad involvement in JFK). I now have THE book on the subject, "Final Judgement: The Missing Link in the JFK Assassination Conspiracy" by Michael Collins Piper. Piper posts frequently on Alt.conspiracy(jfk). This is silly! But enjoy the book anyway. I've only just begun the book, so cannot pass judgement, but if it is true about the Mossad, there are several things to be restructured in MY thinking, anyway. Can you explain further how the B'nai Brith aided the Nazis? Never heard that before. Samm This, unfortunately, is true. But not in the way you think. They were covering for the Zionists who made deals with Eichman. Joshua2 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Mission Creep, Stealth War, Seen (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- I am still wondering if Madeline Albright was naturalized prior to her recent oath, where she stated it was in honor of her 50 years after being admitted to USA. Recently picked up on net that Mossad was involved with CIA in assassination of JFK; well, this would make Gideon's Spies really in cahoots with my bible code which was situated within a particular edition of the Gideon placed bible.and why the Nazis coming to America under protective orders were aided by B'nai Brith, a masonic order of German descentthis would implicate Herr Kissinger, who was counter intelligence in 1940 period also working as Soviet Spy Code Name BOR. Does Clinton have a gun to his head; was this Lewinski as reported working with or for Mossad - the Mossad taping phone calls between Lewinski and the President of the United States. No wonder King Hussein shortly before his recent illness, kicked the Mossad out of Jordan. I Yugoslavia, are the chickens coming home to roost aided by the President and Albright, whom I believe should be and are the war criminals. Inasmuch as this is an illegal war under our constitution it would seem to me that Clinton and his gang, the Cowards of the Country, are liable personally for the damage they have caused to thousands of refugees, who have done nothing, absolutely nothing, to this country, and who do not understand why suddenly Clinton has ordered the Mighty Ducks to bomb it to death. I hope these people sue, and sue, and sue. This is not the NATO I once respected; and I might add, this CFR representative was on the air again hawking the war and NATO. This man is not an elected official of this country and Iight add, neither is Albright or Kissinger. Is this war really the work of the Mossad while Kissinger sits in the background shedding more tears as he did when Princess Diana was laid to rest. Vote them ALL outand believe me, if I coud find a way to sue this unholy ring of conspirtors, I most certainly would. Thousands of people homeless because Clinton had an affair - sodomy in the Whiteouse - and now would inflict his pain upon the public from this disgusting episode on the history of the United States. Perhaps we should do as King Hussein did prior to his deathkick this Mossad out - or are they truly Gideon's Spies in cahoots with our Masonic CIA. Colleen Jones DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Mission Creep, Stealth War, Seen (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-04-08 07:51:43 EDT, you write: Recently picked up on net that Mossad was involved with CIA in assassination of JFK; well, this would make Gideon's Spies really in cahoots with my bible code which was situated within a particular edition of the Gideon placed bible.and why the Nazis coming to America under protective orders were aided by B'nai Brith, a masonic order of German descentthis would implicate Herr Kissinger, who was counter intelligence in 1940 period also working as Soviet Spy Code Name BOR. I came upon the same info recently (about the Mossad involvement in JFK). I now have THE book on the subject, "Final Judgement: The Missing Link in the JFK Assassination Conspiracy" by Michael Collins Piper. Piper posts frequently on Alt.conspiracy(jfk). I've only just begun the book, so cannot pass judgement, but if it is true about the Mossad, there are several things to be restructured in MY thinking, anyway. Can you explain further how the B'nai Brith aided the Nazis? Never heard that before. Samm DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Mission Creep, Stealth War, Seen (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Werner von Braun was at Red Stone Arsenal - after WWII he and over a hundred scientists, etc., came to US to work on the space program. By the way, the little "v" designates the nobility - he was the son of a Baron The B'Nai Brith as I recall was formed, a masonic order, for obvious reasons. After the war, the Russians of course got their share of the german scientiests - the joke of the day was "our german scientists know more than your German scientists). I had a relative who knew and worked with von Braun on space stuff; probably had it not been for von Braun, Russia may have beaten us to the moon, and the space program was sabotaged extensively in my opinion, which means nothing. So, the B'nai Brith knew the Americans were giving the rocket scientists a home in American to work on the rockets, and the B'Nai Brith who had every reason to want these men brought to justice as war criminals, turned the other cheek in the best interests of our national secuirty, so the story went.not that they had any choice anyway. So my guess would be this masonic order went along with the wishes of their brothers; and not all Germans were Nazis. von Braun wanted to go to the moon more than win the war; however, this too, could have been propaganda to ease the pain over a group of Nazi's working in top secret installations.I might add, remember the first rocket we ignited; it went up 100 feet or so, and fell on its side resulting the the English writing in headlines "Oh What A Flopnik".very funny. It seems hard to believe that a man who worked with Adolph Hitler, whom Hitler respected and adimired, would end up working with the Yankees competing with the Soviet Union. And that is why B'Nai Brith, turned the other cheek.as they say, All Kings Are Brothers. One other item, when the Cold War was beginning, the USA treated the 7 men at Spandau a little better; but the Russian guard did not...they accused BARON von S of having a bible code, and took it awaythis is in Albert Speers diary and I believe this, is when the space race really beganBaron to Baron. Colleen DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Mission Creep, Stealth War, Seen (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- "MISSION CREEP," "STEALTH WAR," SEEN (CNNS, 04/07/99) -- "Creeping gradualism" is the typical U.S. *modus operandi*. For example: the constant whittling away of civil liberties here in the U.S., under the guise of the failed "War on Drugs." Some compare this tactic of creeping gradualism to frogs being slowly boiled: if you drop a frog into boiling water, the frog will jump out; but if you put the frog in water and gradually raise the heat, the frog will be boiled alive. The key to sneaky success in planned operations, knows Washington, DC, is to be gradual about it. So it is significant that a press release from the Serb Unity Congress warns that This is war by stealth. The Congress and American people are being led along a series of incremental steps to a final fait accompli of war. This does grave damage to the U.S. constitution which vests authority to declare war in Congress and Congress alone. [1] First there's bombs and missiles only. Then there's Apache Attack Helicopters. Then you need a few "observers" on the ground. (Promises Bill Clinton: "They are there acting only as observers.") A few observers here, a few observers there, and before you know it we're talking about real war. In Vietnam, in the early 1960s, it began much the same: with a small number of "observers." Back then, the propaganda was that we were in Vietnam to prevent a "domino effect." Supposedly, if Vietnam went communist that would lead to all of Southeast Asia falling into the communist camp; the surrounding countries would fall like dominoes. (But then-Secretary of Defense Bob McNamara later admitted that, by the mid-to-late 1960s, U.S. leaders were no longer sure why exactly we were at war in Vietnam.) It's "deja vu all over again." Secretary of State Madeline Albright says that if we lose Kosovo, instability will spread throughout Europe. Pentagon brass are critical. They have "challenged the 'domino theory' put forth by Secretary of State Madeleine Albright..." [2] According to Arianna Huffington, Her Ladyship Albright is the spiritual patron of the escalating international war in Yugoslavia. "The Balkans have always been Albright's special project," says Huffington. "Everyone in Albright's circle is very conscious of how anxious she has been to have a victory to call her own. Instead, she now has a calamity to call her own." Albright's fanatical tenacity caused her to disregard warnings from the CIA about the terrible repercussions likely to follow the implementation of her bombing mania, writes Huffington. "So blinkered was her vision that all warnings by the CIA about Serbian retaliations were ignored." [3] Privately, the U.S. government remains deeply divided over the wisdom of U.S. attacks on Yugoslavia. Several reports, including one by the Washington Post, indicate that the U.S. military has serious misgivings. But they, under the military code, are hinderedfromspeakingoutopenlyagainsttheir Commander-in-Chief, Bill Clinton. And politicians skeptical about U.S. involvement in the Balkan tinderbox mostly adhere to the truism that "politics should stop at the water's edge." But, reports UPI, many in Congress "remain leery." [4] "The President is standing alone on a lot of this... He's finding fewer and fewer people who are willing to stick with him over Kosovo. He's backed himself, his administration and his country into a corner," reportedly says one White House aide. [5] Internationally, many countries are also leery. "Lebanon's Prime Minister Selim Hoss says the mass exodus from Kosovo is clear proof of the failure of NATO's military operations against Yugoslavia." [6] Israel's foreign minister worries about the threat of a Moslem state of Kosovo. [7] Greece and Italy have urged a cease fire. Darker nuances associated with the Balkan Blow-up hint that the growing disaster comes from yet another CIA project gone awry. In Zaire, in late-1960, the CIA engineered the murder of Prime Minister Patrice Lumumba. Lumumba was replaced by the CIA-friendly Joseph Mobutu. "The lure of [Zaire's] vast mineral resources led the CIA into a marriage of convenience with him" [8]. But not all CIA covert projects have such "happy endings." The CIA's man in Panama, Manuel Noriega, got along quite well with the U.S. ruling class, for years. But when Noriega began to defy Washington's anti-Sandinista mandate, the USA mass media went into high-gear and Noriega became an instant demon. This propaganda saturation by the USA mass media was the prelude to U.S. invasion of Panama and the kidnapping of Noriega. [9] According to Sherman Skolnick, head of the public interest research group, Citizens'